Former Mayor Robert A. Livingston pleads guilty

| December 26, 2017

KSTP reports that former Lakeland, Minnesota mayor Robert A. Livingston pleaded guilty to receiving veterans benefits from the Veterans’ Affairs Department with a forged DD214 and “numerous false documents”. He ran for office on his nonexistent military record;

The plea agreement said Livingston never served in the military and created “numerous false documents,” including a DD-214, when he applied to the VA for health benefits and compensation.

Livingston obtained $110,566.21 in medical care from the Veterans Health Administration and $27,198.66 in tax-free disability payments to which he was not entitled, according to court records.

Yeah, the article quotes a VFW member complaining about Livingston collecting VA benefits, but there’s a picture of Livingston in a VFW hat. And Congressman Tim Walz who pretends to be an Iraq veteran when he campaigns complained to the VA about Livingston getting vet benefits. Perhaps they should should clean up their own yards.

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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jonp

Total Shitbag. Not much else to say.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Mr. Livingston I presume???

NHSparky

Yet legit vets with bona-fide needs are stonewalled and get shit.

Fuck this guy.

HMCS(FMF) ret

ROBERT A. LIVINGSTON probably went into the local VFW and raised holy Hell about being fucked over for benefits because the VA was keeping his ass down or some other shit. The local VFW jumped through hoops to make sure that their “buddy” didn’t get screwed over, yet ROBERT A. LIVINGSTON fucked the VA and vets out of nearly $140k in care and benefits.

I’m guessing that he’ll never pay back the entire amount.

FUCK. HIM. AND. HIS. LAWER.

PS – Looks like another local VFW needs to be checking the membership for Stolen Valor ballsack workers.

desert

You got that right! I was on the floor and couldn’t get up, EXTREME back pain, paramedics took me to E.R., hospital filled me up with pain meds (morphine etc), and sent me to ICU for 14 days! I was out of it for a number of days, 4-5 I think, VA doesn’t want to pay for the hospital bill because I didn’t call them to get authorization? What freaking moron in the VA came up with that one, how in hell do you call when you do not have your mental faculties? Yet they will pay these bastards and never blink an eye!!

E4 Mafia For Life.

You have to schedule accidents and illnesses in advance and there’s a long waiting list.
My wife is a teacher. If she’s deathly ill she has to get lesson plans to the school by midnight and find her own sub for the next day(s).
Carpet crawlers are a plague. her and I were sick for the first 10 years + of her career. Now with all the illegals pouring in, they’re carrying even worse shit like TB.

IDC SARC

Cocksucker

Hack Stone

He can always land a job at All Points Logistics.

E4 Mafia For Life.

They have an opening in their Benefits Department and in their rear.

Green Thumb

And in the Front Office.

Phildo hates competition. Especially when it is his turn to deliver oratory comment on how to steal from the taxpayers of this country.

Learned from Putin, er, I mean, Put-it-in.

Perry Gaskill

So… ol’ Bob admits to stealing $140,000 and his attorney says, “Bob Livingston is a good person. He has done a lot of good in his life… I ask that the public not cast judgement.”

Kinda makes you want to tune up the world’s smallest violin, doesn’t it?

I sometimes wonder if attorneys have a weird game they play that involves who can say the most goofy stuff at a press conference, and still keep a straight face. They all gather at a lawyer bar later, give each other high fives, and the loser has to buy the beer…

rgr769

Personally, I’d like to tune up this shitbag and his lawer.

rgr769

I have never understood the need of criminal defense attorneys to get in front of a camera and reporters and make excuses for their criminal clients after they have been convicted or pled guilty. I can see why they do it before their client has been convicted or essentially confessed on the record in court, but afterwards, it is just as ludicrous as it is disingenuous.

Carlton G. Long

I can only guess that they do it either for possible leniency in sentencing or to lay groundwork for appeals (where applicable).

desert

ALL Attorneys play the same game….'”FILL MY POCKETS, SUCKERS!”

E4 Mafia For Life.

How about that shitbag that got the illegal off on killing Kate Steinel and now is appealing? That is some bullshit.

Casey

I think that one was the result of an incompetent prosecutor, as opposed to a shifty defense lawyer.

gitarcarver

“Bob Livingston is a good person. He has done a lot of good in his life,” said Michael J. Millios, Livingston’s attorney. “I ask that his privacy be respected. The judge will review the evidence in extenuation and mitigation. I ask that the public not cast judgement.”

This is one of the reasons why some people loathe lawyers.

This guy’s client is not a good guy. We the public may respect Livingston’s privacy when he has paid back every cent he stole (plus interest) and begs for forgiveness when he gets out of prison.

Until that point, he deserves every ounce of scorn, ridicule and venom directed his way for not only betraying his oath of office, and people that elected him but stealing money set aside for real vets with real disabilities and real needs.

Why do I think a financial audit of the City of Lakeland is in order?

Steve

Absolutely. Sorry shitbag lawyer dude, but he pled GUILTY….so….stiff shit. We, the public, will go ahead and cast judgement as we see fit. In this case, an awful lot of it.

I understand that defence lawyers are a necessary. Still shitbags though.

OWB

OK. I agree to not cast judgement, but I reserve the right to cast aspersions. Plenty of aspersions. Lots and lots of them.

Green Thumb

“This is one of the reasons why some people loathe lawyers”

And I would add substandard veterans.

Shitbag.

Thunderstixx

One Aw Shit wipes out all Attaboy’s from the past 50 years…..
Big ones like this wipe out any Attaboy ever issued in said clown’s name…

Sarah Livingston

Not to mention the little girl he adopted and put out on the streets when she was 14 this dumb ass got every bit of karma he has coming to him hope he rots in prison

Pat

I understand how a VSO might be fooled by a forged DD214, but how the heck does the VA pay disability and other benefits without official medical or other service records not provided by the beneficiary?

And stealing $140K, not to mention how this impacted veterans waiting for services, better result in some incarceration.

OWB

Because too many simply do not care about anything other than drawing a paycheck and future benefits for doing as little as possible to earn either. Too many others are completely incompetent, with supervisors who do not care. When a competent or caring individual tries to cull out the idiots, fools, and otherwise undeserving employees they soon discover an army of those willing to protect bureaucrats who should long ago have been removed from the public payroll.

Among other things.

Green Thumb

Word.

Sarge

FUCK THIS GUY

Zip

Chip,

Sorry, didn’t mean to report you. Fat fingered the link.

But if I’m reading you correctly: Fuck. That. Guy.

How copy, over?

Skyjumper

I just read the response from Acting VA Undersecretary Thomas J Murphy to Minnesota Congressman Walz concerning this person and others like him.

Acting Undersecretary Murphy used all kinds of acronyms: VA, VBA, BIRLS, VADIR, BEC, VBA/DoD, NPRC, OIG and others, but he seemed to forget the most important one of all.

“WJDDOFJRAPWCNTE”

(We Just Didn’t Do Our Fucking Job Right And Probably Will Continue Not Too Either)!!

Dapandico

Another game of guess the political party.

Steven Bison

Why did I have to prove everything?

Ex-PH2

I’m sure he’s going to pay back every cent. Positive he will. Absolutely adamantly certain about it.

NOT.

HMC Ret

The process of my getting to 100% took years during which every word ever written in my AD health record was read and reread, many times over several years. What did the VA base the decision to grant this guy disability which resulted in him being paid? Did he gundeck an entire health record also? I’ve heard of certain events being gundecked, often quite elaborately over years by someone with ready access to a health record. How did this guy pull off this coup?

In any event, get those ribbons off your chest. You’re the moral equivalent of pond scum.

Cacti35

I bet he almost joined back in the day.

RM3(SS)

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that one…what they don’t say is “But I didn’t have the balls” or “my mommy wouldn’t let me”.
Fucking quadruple chinned Chode.
Him. FUCK him.

rgr769

Just like Hillary almost joined the Corps.

Tallywhagger

Public whippings existed for a reason. This creep is a reason.

lily

I wonder how the VA tracks the money spent on each veteran?

OWB

They probably have a simple computer program that any fool can use, except that most of their fools simply don’t care enough to do it.

I picture buildings full of needless bureaucrats who shuffle claims around among themselves for months. Then there is a room full of bureaucrats who stamp every claim “DENIED.” All appeals go to either a different building or a separate floor of bureaucrats who shuffle the appeals around for additional months. And around and around they go.

Verification for eligibility should never come from the claimant. Why the DoD and VA still don’t have a simple verification process in place is beyond disgusting.

Wilted Willy

OWB, let me know if you figure out how they get away with this fraud? My pos brother, David “Doc” Shrum has been getting away with this fraud shit for almost 20 years now. At over $3K a month, you do the math on how much he has fucked us out of. Not to mention the real vets that deserve the money. My pos brother has been exposed here and at Military Phonies and the local newspaper and the money still keeps coming? I think the VA just plain doesn’t give a shit and it would take some effort on their part to actually investigate something? I don’t think he will ever face justice for his crimes. I did manage to get his phony ass removed from most of the Purple Heart websites, but this fuck stain still keeps getting his check every month! I hope I live long enough to piss on his grave!

OWB

Two different issues need to be concurrently addressed by independently operating folks: one group needs to be purging the rolls of those receiving bennies they have not earned while a second group is working on clearing those who have earned the benefits to receive them.

Since apparently the computer system has still not been developed that would allow the VA to tap into the DoD to verify service, assign a few folks to physically work at NPRC (or wherever else official records are also secured) whose only job is to check the records of those applying for VA benefits. And hold them accountable. Same with those verifying those already drawing bennies.

This really isn’t as difficult as some would have us believe. Use telephones, computers, and physical records. Just get it done.

justsayin

Ask any of those actually working with the records on these idiot…. records can be and have been salted. Citations have been forged and entered into records. Phony record edits have ended on on DD214’s (SgtMaj Richard Barr Cayton for example.) Those checking records must be smart enough to read and think – if there are combat awards – were they in a combat zone, or Philadelphia? If there is a POW medal – were they noted by DoD as captured? Do the tales only exist in the mental health exams (Otis Ashley) or does a Medal of Honor and captivity show in historical records?

O-4E

If you want get a hold of me. I guarantee I’ll get action taken on it.

desert

Easy….THEY DON’T WANT TO SPEND ‘ANYTHING’ on veterans! cuts into their bonus monies!!

O-4E

I’ve worked for the VA the last 4 months (finally hired after 30 tries after retiring from the Army 2 years ago but that’s another story)

But to answer your question it’s based on procedure codes. Every time a Veteran is seen by a provider every encounter is tied to a procedure code.

These procedure codes have costs associated with them.

Which is how the VA not only requests funding but gets reimbursement from private insurance

PLASTIC DUCK

That’s £100,000 stolen money in my English book which is a retirement sum and almost life changing. That’s jail time and payback time. What a loathsome piece of shit who is depriving deserving people of what they badly need.

Combat Historian

Lying fucking piece of shit deserves every ass-pounding that he will hopefully receive in prison…

Carlton G. Long

I recently re-watched the 1983 movie “Sadat” starring Louis Gossett Jr…this clown reminds me of the deposed king, Farouk.

REMF

Dear Mr. Mayor,

Please put that VFW tie (that you didn’t earn) to good use and hang yourself with it. Thank you.

Berliner

While he “obtained $110,566.21 in medical care” I wonder how many real veterans needing medical care were shunted aside. He needs hear the clank of the steel door slamming shut and feel the hot breath of Bubba on his neck

FatCircles0311

Lock this bag of shit up and throw away the key. What a massive cunt.

NR Pax

We need to take these guys aside and make them an offer: They show real vets how to game the system like they did and get the level of care and benefits that they scored. Do that, we discuss a sentence reduction and not naming you publicly.

E4 Mafia For Life.

Maybe he claimed he caught PTSD from fighting in the Cold War and that’s the secret fast track to getting disability.
I went to the VA in 1992. I thought I had cancer. I had experimental vaccines. Fired 1000 rounds of DU. Destroyed chemical munitions in Iraq and a chemical factory. Fought at the burning Rumaylah Oil Fields.
I was sick to my stomach every day. Slept 2 hours a day or not at all.
Heard about Gulf War Syndrome.
They started treating me for PTSD. 7 years, 2 dozen MD’s and tons of tests and they rubber stamped me with PTSD and gave me a 10% rating for PTSD and 0% rating for hearing loss.
Thank God I have a great personal support system and will power or I would be in a gutter somewhere maybe talking to a telephone pole.
Another 3 years to get 30% rating. I don’t know how the hell I went to work and did stuff from all the meds I was on.
2 more years and 4″ of documentation to make 50%. I am blessed to have compassionate people in my organization that put up with my ups and downs.
Another 2 years of saying, “I can’t afford a hearing aid and I can’t understand what people are saying to me unless I am in an isolated room with one sound source only.”
I said some kind of magic phrase – sorry, I don’t recall what it was – and the audiologist had an epiphany and offered me whatever hearing aid I needed. No, I didn’t threaten to boil her pet rabbit.
A good chunk of my life is missing and 1/2 of it is from the early years of my daughters. I can’t get that back.
I better stop. Thank you for your patience. I just wanted to share a very small amount – comparatively – of the frustration and how this knob gobbling NAMBLA molester is robbing people.
I’m 99.9999% better off than a lot of veterans that need help.
How many vets are without family, faith or friends?