Eugene Gino Zangara steals all of the valor

| April 26, 2016

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Someone sent us this guy, Gino Zangara when he passed away and the North Texas Patriot Guard Riders were making arrangements to escort him to his final rest.

Zangara PGR

Yep, he claimed that he served in World War II, even though he turned 16 the year that the war ended. From his obituary;

He joined the Army at the age of 15 (underage) as he went to the recruitment office with older friends who were required to sign-up under the draft law. He lied about his age, and the officer scolded him for not signing up sooner, as he added 3 years to his age, not 1 or 2. When the Truancy Board found him, he returned to school for a few months until the ripe old age of 17, which was the legal age for enlisting at that time. Gino was a member of VUMS (Veterans of Underage Military Service). He was trained at Fort Dix, NJ, and Fort Sill, OK. Gino made 1004 parachute jumps over his career (yes, from perfectly functioning planes) and was proud to be an Army Airborne Ranger, Special Ops.

1004 parachute jumps – sounds totally legit, doesn’t it?

Wild stuff. Wait it keeps getting better;

After his stint in the Army, Gino thought the Navy would be easy, as he would not have to go through Basic Training again, so he re-enlisted in the Navy. He served in the Underwater Demolition Team as a Frogman, with the primary function of locating and destroying underwater obstacles to allow for amphibious landings. Gino served as a Coxswain from 1950-53 on the USS Okanogan (APA-220). He could ‘walk’ his UDT boat sideways to ‘parallel park’ it next to the ship for loading and unloading frogmen. Gino was in the movie Frogmen starring Richard Widmark. He was filmed recovering fellow Frogmen out of the water single handedly as his rubber boat was being pulled by a faster boat.

He received his first Purple Heart for a wound he received in Korea; he took shrapnel in his left arm from a mortar explosion. Later in his Naval career, he attended Hospital Corpsman School and Naval Radiology School, and was then attached to a Marine Force Recon Unit as a Corpsman. As a corpsman, he had the opportunity of taking the Marine option – Gino took the rank and uniform of a Marine and conformed to Marine Corps regulations. As a Marine, he attained the rank of Sergeant Major, the highest rank an enlisted man can reach.

Think he’s done? Nope;

The Lake Champlain (also an aircraft carrier) was selected as the prime recovery ship for America’s first manned space flight. She sailed for the recovery area on May 1, 1961, and was on station on the 5th when Commander Alan Shepard was recovered along with spacecraft Freedom 7 after splashdown some 300 miles down range from Cape Kennedy. Gino was the Frogman, in the water, to open the hatch of the Freedom 7. (Frogmen and UDT specialists were the pre-Navy Seals that we know today). Being a corpsman stationed on the Lake Champlain, he gave Alan Shepherd his first physical once he was brought on board. Toward the end of his Naval career, Gino served on the USS Essex CV CVA CVS-9 aircraft carrier from 1967 to 68.

He received two more Purple Hearts while serving in Vietnam. He was injured twice by snipers, once in his back and once in his neck. He was awarded South Vietnam’s Gallantry Cross for heroism when, while temporarily attached to a South Vietnamese recon team, they were ambushed by Viet Cong while on patrol. Four members of his team were wounded, and while under fire, he pulled all 4 men to safety. He was rushed by 4 VC and, in defense of himself and his 4 wounded team members, he killed 3 with one of the wounded men’s weapons and the 4th in hand to hand with his knife.

Where to start? Well there is no record of him being in the Army or the Marine Corps. He was in the Navy, though, he joined in 1950 and his service awards indicate that he was in Korea. But there’s nothing that says that he joined the Army at 15 or again at 17. There are no World War II service medals in his file. There is also no mention of SEAL or UDT training. Jumping ahead to his daring rescue of Alan B Shepard and the Mercury capsule. Yep, the USS Lake Champlain recovered the space vehicle, but Zangara wasn’t there. He didn’t join the ship until 1963 – two years later. He was on board when they recovered Gemini 5, though. I wonder why he didn’t mention that?

He then transferred to the 3rd Marine Division – their 3rd Medical Battalion and he served 8 months in Vietnam. While he was there, the 3rd Marine Division earned the Vietnam Cross of Gallantry as a unit award, so it’s doubtful that he earned it for an individual action like he describes. He does have a Purple Heart – just one not the three that he claims. He also legitimately has a Combat Action Ribbon – I have to guess that earned in Korea along with the Purple Heart. But he left the Navy for the Fleet Reserves in 1968 after 18 years of continuous service in the Navy as a hospital medic in the pay grade of E-6 (HM1).

Then, I guess he joined the Texas State Guard (the state militia – not the National Guard) where he became a brevet general – I don’t know what’s involved in that, but that’s what it is. Judging by the picture, he decided that he needed some parachute wings and a Silver Star.

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Notice that at no time did he become a Marine Corps Sergeant Major, nor did he have an assignment as anything else but a hospital medic. I guess he figured that he needed some bling to go along with those brevet general stars of the Texas State Guard. Normally, I’d lay some of the blame on the family for an obit – but that obit just has too many details. I suspect that he wrote it. You know he couldn’t resist pinning on a CIB and I suspect that it has two stars on it, too.

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Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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Bobo

You missed the China Service Medal mentioned in his on line obituary. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dfw/obituary.aspx?pid=177616261

I wonder what his headstone will look like.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

“Speed Bump – Speed Limit 10 MPH” would look good on it to me…

Kat

ONE headstone, for all that glory? Haha, this guy is a piece of work.

Bobo

It looks like he also got some press for his service after his death.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/03/30/american-hero-remembered-in-fort-worth/

CA_SGT

Contacted them about a retraction. Sending them the info from here.

AskaMarine

Good luck, CA.

I contacted them in November about Michael Killam Phony Vietnam story and NEVER heard back from them.

And the news story is STILL on the Internet.

AskaMarine

CA_SGT:

Any luck with that incompetent News Station, CBS DFW?

As shared before, they ignored my email and letter about their November 2015 story on Michael Duane Killam, Phony Vietnam POW.

Sent them an email yesterday as well on Gino.

So far, Zero response. Zero.

As in Beetle Bailey Zero.

CA_SGT

They said they’d “look into it.” and that they just go off of what people tell them, they don’t verify statements themselves.

Other than that, no further updates.

AskaMarine

CBS DFW is the SAME news station that did the story on Michael Killam in November 2015 being honored by Vessey for being a Vietnam POW!!!!

That’s 2! WTF is wrong with that station????

Bobo

Better picture of him in uniform at the 30 sec mark. No stars on the CIB, Jonn.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/watch/american-hero-remembered-in-fort-worth/vp-BBra1E1

NECCSEABEECPO

Navy DOCs didn’t have to go through BUDS during that time. It didn’t become mandatory until after Nam. He is still a lying POS and is full of shit. Good on who ever noticed he was fucked up.

aGrimm

NECCSEABEECPO: I can confirm that none of the corpsmen in 1st Recon – at the end of Recon’s time in Nam (Sept 70 to May 71) – had any BUDS or UDC training. I don’t know about previous times and what training the Docs received, but I suspect you are right that none was required. Because I was with Recon as it was shutting down, I’ve wondered whether our training was anomalously short compared to previous times; in other words, as Recon was winding down, did they just take whatever warm bodied corpsmen was dumb enough to volunteer to get them to their final days? I fit that description.

Anyway, thanks for the info which fills in one knowledge gap.

Gino has me down in the dumps – I cannot figure out how to top his BS in the BS I tell my grandkids. The little bastards have gotten suspicious of how I lassoed a SAM missile out of the sky with my trusty lariat. Anyone help me out here? 🙂

Bill M

It all depends on how low to the ground it was at the time. The lead required increases exponentially with altitude. Of course, you also have to factor in the speed. I’m sure you can figure it out; it’s the fourth derivative of Fermat’s theorem.

aGrimm

Ah, Fermat’s theory for elliptical curves! Very good. It gets me thinking that I know just enough about String theory that I could throw that in and seriously BS the little bastards with that plus your Fermat theorem (though I need to brush up on Fermat’s theorem – a lot).

Poetrooper

Grimm, it’s all in the wrist action and it occurs so fast that it’s impossible to be seen by the naked eye thus making it impossible to demonstrate.

aGrimm

Poet: That plus I am now an old fart and can’t do it anymore. 🙂

Maybe you have hit on how some of those super secret missions were performed by the stolen valor jerks.

Jumpmaster

Some guys get carried away before they get carried away.

Sapper3307

No Navy cross.

HMC Ret

Right. No Navy Cross or Medal of Honor. Must have been a slacker.

That’s /sarc, BTW.

Pineywoods NCO

Great…another Texas State Guard phony baloney. Wonder if Chevalier modeled after him??

Sheesh.

A Proud Infidel®™

So just what DIDN’T he award himself?

GDContractor

Come on guys, he WAS the frog man that opened the hatch on Freedom 7! Birdbath took a picture of it!

Mark Lauer

“Gino took the rank and uniform of a Marine [and] attained the rank of Sergeant Major…”

Not how it works. You wear the uniform, but you remain a sailor, and retain Navy rank and rate. And you don’t just get “attached” to a Recon unit.
I want to dig this guy up and give him a punch in the spleen.

PrevMed

Just the spleen?

Some Guy

I dunno, it seems plausible to me: “He took the rank and uniform of a Marine” – keyword: took. There probably was a mix-up at the dry cleaners, but he like the uniform so much, that he kept it. Then he “attained the rank of SGM” – by walking into the uniform store and buying it for his new spiffy uniform. It all makes sense, guys! 😉

Mark Lauer

Yeah, I never thought of it that way.
If I’d have known I could do that, I’d have “attained the rank of Sergeant Major” every time I went on leave.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Well, sadly, his family now knows the truth should they choose to accept that truth.

This story is one monstrous lie after another, I guess he really believes the motto go big or go home especially when he’s lying his ass off.

I love that he added he gave Shepard his first physical after landing…so he got back to the ship jettisoned his wet suit and other diving gear hopped into his Doctor scrubs and asked Shepard to turn his head and cough….and then just like Forrest Gump he dragged his fire team to safety but unlike Forrest, Gino killed all the attackers even resorting to stabbing one of them to death…just fucking amazing…

Who did he tell these bullshit stories too? How did those people not start laughing? Or just get up and walk away?

I must be really isolated in my old age because I never meet anyone so full of shit as this, I think this guy would have been fucking hysterical at a dinner party telling his bullshit stories…I’d have brought him to dinner for schmucks for certain.

Mayhem

It would have been more believable if he had claimed he stabbed one of the attackers with an aluminum orange shelter half stake.

Martinjmpr

I love that he added he gave Shepard his first physical after landing

Can you imagine the stories he told?

“You see these hands? These hands personally cupped the ballsack of a true American hero, and then I told him to turn his head and cough.

You see this index finger?”

“NO, Grampa, NOBODY wants to hear about where your finger was!”

ex-OS2

Holy shit, I cannot stop laughing….

Charlie Gray

lol…..I think I pee’d myself laughing so hard.

Bill M

Good one. Laughed my A double scribble off.

QM1

I guess he was thinking “go big or go home” on the bs meter…..

HMC Ret

He swung for the fences. The stolen valor is massive in this one.

Ncat

That’s what I kept wondering while reading this, how can an even marginally informed, non-brain dead civilian keep buying his bs without calling him on it.

HMC Ret

So many who never served are totally ignorant of what the military is about and what we do/did. That’s particularly true of today’s younger generation(s). They know exactly what they have seen on TV/movies, and much of that is foolishness. Couple that with the belief that ‘Uncle Bob’ wouldn’t lie to me. This guy is a fellow Corpsman and had a great career. That slimy stain I see is his smegma as he rocks the lie. Shame on him. I don’t know if I should find him revolting or feel sorry for him and those he left behind. Must have been a large hole in his psyche he felt necessary to fill.

20thEB67

More amazing to me is the question, how could a journalist swallow and regurgitate such a stinking pile of dung? Wow…just freaking wow!

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Shepard would have knocked the fuck out of him for trying to give him a physical.

ex-OS2

No doubt!

Climb to Glory

How very Bernathian. Way to take a giant Phil Monkress on your military career, Eugene.

Stacy0311

So when he wears greens, he has a Trident and Navy jump wings.
When he wears blues, no Trident or Navy jump wings.
Hard to keep it straight when you’ve got that much flair I guess.

Grimmy

The Corps needs a special piece of bling for super duper spec ops types so the Corps can be properly represented in stolen valor displays.

Ex-PH2

What a gasbag. Why not stick to reality and leave it at that?

Hondo

Because reality wouldn’t have been “sexy” enough to get him high rank in the TX State Guard.

Claw

Run, Forrest, Run !!

AskaMarine

Too bad he is deceased.

Living in the same area as PV1 Killer, he could have sought counseling from Killer on his Walter Mitty persona (@ our Tax Dollars expense) and most likely, PV9 Gainey would have done a one on one interview with him “And what was your MOS?”.

Or swamp war stories with Eugene. “Hey, Gino, you a BG? Well, I’m the 1st SEAC of the JCS! And I’m a Vietnam Era Vet because I lied as well! Let’s you and I go have a beer with my buddy, Michael Killam. Boy, does he have great war stories to tell…did I tell you he was a Vietnam POW? Whoops, forgot that he MAY be on the wagon, so no beer for him. But that’s ok. All 3 of us together, swapping war stories. Let’s see whose story is bigger and better and by golly, let’s let CBS DFW news station do stories on us. Because we are Heroes. And remember, don’t forget to join my Cricket Brigade, because those folks at TAH don’t know what the hell they are talking about.”

Guard Bum

I knew he was a fake phony when he didn’t have fake PJ service. Too bad, he was one of the most fake highly decorated fakes ever and he blew it.

Here is a fake salute to your phony service douche bag….

B Woodman

(facepalm!) (sigh. . . . . )
To shit all over a perfectly good, even admirable, military service.

Pinto Nag

It makes you wonder, doesn’t it? This is one type of SV I will never understand.

AskaMarine

Must be something in the water in Fort Woth, Tarrant County, Texas, because guess who else is from the same area.

Hint: Michael Duane “Killer” Killam.

Also, he reminds me of Ed/Bill “Bling-Bling” Richards from Colorado, who is currently recognized as being a WWII Vet as well (even claiming to receiving a PH during WWII) even though he was born in 1932His Enabler, Bill Schwarz, has done a Joe Gainey on TAH as well.

Let’s see how many Enablers come on this site.

As stated before, hopefully we will have the Blue Falcon Tournament soon as well as Tournaments for Enablers. We can honor Joe Gainey and have our own “Gainey Cup” or “The Cricket Cup”i.e. nominating those folks who enable/support liars, cheaters and stealers who disgrace our Military and dishonor the brave men and women who REALLY served our country, some who never came home.

ex-OS2

What, no MOH?? Cocksucker.

FatCircles0311

Somebody dig him up so we can kick him in the crotch. What a gigantic turd.

Crawfish

The 1SG for my ABN school did the 5th jump with my class and during the graduation ceremony, they said it was his 1000th static line jump. He was a instructor at ABN school for several years. I don’t remember my class number but it was in July, 1992.

sj

Lets see. Recovered astronauts: very Benathian. Texas State Guard: cheesy. TSG kicked out Chevy, why not this guy? He didn’t fly 130 Compass Calls?

Hondo

Served in two wars, including ground duty in Vietnam; awarded a CAR and a legit Purple Heart, plus a slew of campaign medals and unit awards. And he still apparently felt he had to claim more while alive, leaving his family to find out the truth the hard way after his death.

Sad. Just freaking sad.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

^^^WORD^^^

Poetrooper

What is really sad, Hondo, is the impact on the families and close friends. Some enterprising reporter should interview them and write about their reactions to finding out their loved one was a total phony. I suspect that some of them knew but just let him get away with it because “He wasn’t hurting anybody. It was just a game.”

There’s a strong tradition among young, male Texas Hispanics of serving in the Corps, so I’ll wager that General Gino had grandsons and nephews who knew full well that the old man was full of crap but just didn’t have the heart to blow his story for the reasons cited above.

It’s sort of a generational obverse of the “But he’s a good boy,” phenomenon cops hear all the time from mothers and grandmothers of young criminals no matter how vicious their crimes.

I sometimes wonder if the last conscious thought that passes through the minds of these frauds as they lay dying is, “Whew, made it.”

Hondo

Agreed, PT. But the law of unintended consequences now comes into play.

By enabling the guy’s lies because he “wasn’t hurting anyone”, they raised the hammer – right above his survivors. When the truth comes out, the hammer will fall. And when it falls, the people it hits will be hit while they’re most vulnerable.

That is the worst part about this guy’s lies: he set his own family up to learn the truth about him in the worst possible way, at the worst possible time.

Green Thumb

So long, turd.

I imagine he is kicking it with Ike “No More” Densmore on the Felcher’s Green.

CA_SGT

So apparently ther was someone named Eugene T Zangara who fought in the Army in WW2. How much u wanna bet this turd took his stories from that soldiers service.

Just An Old Dog

I doubt if he “fought” very much on that enlistment date Sept 27 1945

clamsgotlegs

Looks like he ate 7 lb blocks of cheese regularly.

TheCloser

Who stays in for 18 years 2 months and gets out before retiring?

HMCS(FMF) ret.

One of the Transfer and Receipts documents states that he was transferred to the Fleet Reserve.

Hondo

By way of explanation, for Army/USAF types: the USN and USMC technically don’t retire until 30 years. Between 20 and 30 years, they’re in “Fleet Reserve” status, drawing “retainer pay” vice retried pay. They transition to “retired” and “retired pay” on the 30 year date.

Why? Dunno. Must be more of that “naval tradition” about which Sir Winston Churchill was said to have spoken so favorably. (smile)

Regarding thus guy: if he was transferred to the Fleet Reserve, that implies retirement. Seems to me I remember hearing that the Navy had a “extra credit” program in the past for early reenlistment. Not sure if someone could accrue close to 2 years extra service credit that way, but it might be an explanation.

A second possibility would be his being medically retired early. In the mid-1980s (and today, as far as I know) a person could be medically retired with up to 5 years in temporary retirement status pending additional convalescence. Until a person’s final medical status is determined, recall to active duty is possible. That could possibly be what landed him on the Fleet Reserve list at just over 18 years.

HMC Ret

Hondo: You posted: “Seems to me I remember hearing that the Navy had a “extra credit”.

What I remember when I retired I had 23 years and 10 days TAS, but was awarded a lot of months for what the Navy called ‘constructive time’. What that meant is that, every time I reenlisted several months before my current enlistment was set to expire, I would be given credit toward retirement and retirement pay for those few months that I actually didn’t serve on the reenlistment period I was replacing by reenlisting a few months early. So I ended up with a lot more than ‘only’ 23 years. (For retirement pay purposes.) I didn’t pay much attention to the policy while on AD. I knew it existed but didn’t care. I kinda just dumbed into a lucky set of reenlistment circumstances. I knew one guy, an MS (cook) who retired after doing less than 19. He knew about constructive time and milked it to the hilt. He joined at 17 (from the PI) and retired when he was short of 36 y/o. He would reenlist for four or so years and replace that reenlistment with a new reenlistment of four or so years after serving several months short of his current reenlistment period. Had I worked the system, I could have retired, for pay purposes, with even more TAS. Somewhere in the mix was a maximum amount of constructive time one could accumulate, but I believe that was a moving target during my years.

Hope we’re talking about the same thing.

Oh, BTW, those on Navy AD tell me this windfall is no longer available.

Hondo

HMC Ret: yep – that’s it. Thanks.

Appreciate your providing more details. Don’t think the Army had such a program, and I didn’t know much about it beyond it’s existence. I only heard about the Navy’s program from another former Navy commenter here.

AskaMarine

As stated above, CBS DFW News Station is on a roll.

So far, they have aired two stories in 6 months without doing research.

First one was on Michael Duane Killam, Phony Vietnam POW, being honored by Vessey.

Second is now this despictable creature, Eugene.

Journalism at its best. NOT.

Jarhead

Good thing he didn’t live to be 90 years old. By then he’d have killed Bin Laden all by himself after flying in on his own private chopper. Man these phonies really piss me off. NO family members EVER want to discuss the make believe war stories spoken by the dearly departed. And they back that up by calling people like us mean and insensitive assholes. How can anyone call me insensitive?

Let me guess, he was a car salesman before he became an attorney..right? Respectfully so, his headstone should be shaped like a urinal so pervs like me could visit and do my business.

A Proud Infidel®™

Very likely a USED Car Salesman, the fast talking type one sees right outside the gates of any Military Installation.

Jarhead

API…any chance you ever had the pleasure of being accosted in Oceanside by these super-slick Bible salesmen? They’d stand out in front of their shop and con a person to come in and listen to what they had to say. Schmooze wouldn’t even come close to the line of b. s. they spoke. Most disingenuous sales people ever encountered in all my life. Pure con, pure carnie in a sports coat trying to look sophisticated and sincere.

HMC Ret

Just saw Jarhead’s post re Bible sales in downtown Oceanside. I went through FMF there in either late 69 or very early 70. I never met the Bible salesmen there, but they got my ass in downtown San Diego. I did buy some other ‘stuff’ both in Oceanside and San Diego. At that time Oceanside was referred to as OceanSlime. It was one nasty place. Went through Field Med School there. Good experience.

A Proud Infidel®™

No Oceanside time for me, I was Army my entire time. I also grew up near a military Installation and the rule typically was that the closer a sales place was to the gate or boundaries, the shadier it was starting with used car lots and so on. I remember going into a jewelry store in Columbus GA when I was stationed on Benning that had salesmouths guaranteeing me and other “Joes” that we didn’t even have to pay for merchandise there, all we needed to do was pick out what we wanted and sign an allotment form, I wonder how many “Joes” got conned out of a chunk of their pay by that place?

NormanS

Sounds like the greeters in front of the jewelry stores and pawn shops in, “Disgusted, Georgia”!

Hack Stone

“We Finance E-1 And Up!”

I did see a place down in Jacksonville a little bit more upscale; they only financed E-2 and up.

Carlton G. Long

He’d better hope he was saved, otherwise this will dog him for eternity.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Remember-Christ was only a Corporal.

At least that’s what I’ve heard a few thousand times…

Carlton G Long

Indeed, good sir, indeed.

OldManchu

I should get an Army Achievement Medal just for reading all of this guy’s bullshit!

Good grief.

HMC Ret

I never fell for that ‘We Finance Everyone, Even The Dead’ while in the Navy. I did fall prey to the hawkers in downtown San Diego in the 1960s. They sold everything from Bibles, jewelry and other stuff. All of which ‘were certain to become a family heirloom’. Well, none of the stuff became much of anything but clutter.

Eden

Horton’s Plaza?

HMC Ret

Can’t recall the name. I remember spending time at the movies downtown and a lot of time at the Seven Seas Club, getting my blues tailored and just hanging out. Every other storefront was a hawker selling all manner of stuff (aka mostly junk). I understand it’s been cleaned up for some time now. I was in SD many times, from the 60s to 70s.

AnotherPat

Isn’t he also wearing the US Army Chief of Staff Badge normally given to those who served in the Pentagon..or do I need new reading glasses?

Bobo

Good catch. He is, in fact, wearing the highly coveted Army Staff Badge.

AnotherPat

Thanks, Bobo.

And you are right. The Army Staff Badge, not Army Chief of Staff Badge as I originally wrote.

Guess I need those new glasses after all.?

Eden

Oh, dear God! Another meathead making the Texas State Guard look bad. I’m thinking that his brevet promotion can be revoked, if was ever actually approved. . . Brevets are NOT easy to come by. An enlisted TXSG Soldier has to be at least an E8 and have 25 years of State service. Enlisted brevets to general officer don’t happen. And currently, NO enlisted brevets are being approved.

Bobo

There is a TXSG announcement for COL Zangara’s retirement on line. No mention of a promotion to Brevet BG. I’m guessing that he just tacked that on, too, once he walked out the door.

AnotherPat

There could be a possibility that he did serve after WWII and lied about his age.

In the 1940 Census from Passaic City, NJ, he is listed as being 11 years old, which coincides with birth of 1929 as listed on the Obit.

In his June 11 1955 California Marriage Certificate (his secord marriage), he lists his age as being 29, which is cutting it close since if he was born in 1927, he would have been 28 on paper. Course, in reality, if he was born in 1929, he was actually 26.

And the marriage records stated his occupation was Navy.

His 18 year old wife was from Huntington Beach, CA.

Both the 1940 Census and the Marriage Certificate lists his Birthplace as Michigan and his residence as New Jersey.

His parents on the marriage certificate are listed as Salvatore (hmmm…middle initial “T” in the WWII records) Zangara and Eleanor Rebant Zangara, both from Michigan. Same name that appears on the 1940 Passaic City, NJ Census.

The WWII records stated he was born in 1927, born in Michigan and entered the Army in New Jersey on 27 September 1945.

The WWII records has his middle initial as “T” (again, short for Salvatore?). His marriage records and his military records lists NMI.

So, he could have fudged his year of birth as being 1927 when joining in 1945 after the WWII was over, which would have made him about 18 on paper, but in reality, he was 16 as Jonn stated.

Which means he started his lying for a long, long time.

A Very Long Time.

Hondo

Hmm. I suspect those records are now in “archived” status – if the originals still even exist. Those would be prime candidates for damage in the 1973 fire – 80% of Army records of those discharged between 1 Nov 1912 and 1 Jan 1960 were damaged or lost, though many if not most were later at least partially reconstructed from alternate sources.

Got the name and service number, so I’ll file a follow-up FOIA. Might be worth the fee to see what “Eugene T. Zangara” actually did. Those records are likely archival (62 years after “last service”), so a FOIA gets the whole thing – but you have to pay a fair fee to get them removed from archival storage and copied.

A year or so of underage service coupled with some constructive credit (see comment by HMC Ret elsewhere) could indeed explain his transfer to the Fleet Reserve while apparently only having about 18 yr 2 mo or so active service.

Hondo

Update: FOIA prepared, will go in the mail later today.

USMC MSgt (Ret)

A Sergeant Major UDT Corpsman?

Skippy

Holy Bird-Shit batman
Seriously ???????
WTF !!!!!!
You served be happy and proud of your service

11ASTRONAUTSPACESHIPDOORGUNNERSUBPILOT

I’m surprised he didn’t throw WW1 in there

Skippy

Oh crap you had to throw that one in Lol..
A photo will show up hear in a few with him wearing those metals
?????

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Shit… should have said he served during the Banana Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars

Hopefully he’s getting dorked in the squeakhole with the Barbed Cock of Satan by the red devil himself for his bullshit.

jedipsycho (Certified Space Shuttle Door Gunner)

Leave no valor behind. Sheesh.

streetsweeper

I’m going to order Lawn Mowing and Line Painting awards to continue building on my ladder of expert lawn mowing and yellow line painting qualification’s. Heh. This guy’s obit was one hell of a whopper listening to his son speaking. Good Lord.

Hack Stone

What about the “Precious Metals Recovery Badge” for those picking up brass on the rifle range?

streetsweeper

Thanks for the suggestion! Bwahahaha!

Just An Old Dog

Reading through the guestbook of his Obit he spent a long time in the TSG.
He probably bullshitted his way into a commission with them.
CAR and PH honorable service, then it grew into an epic Texas size pile of bullshit over the years.

Hondo

Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if you’re right, JAOD.

One lie often later requires another to support it. Then another, and another. And after telling them for decades, often the liar comes to believe his own lies.

AskaMarine

It’s called the Frank Visconi Syndrome.

HMC Ret

Yep. I learned early on to tell the truth and I wouldn’t need a good memory. Judge Judy reinforces that often on her stellar show. I love me some Judge Judy.

Hack Stone

Every once in a while, Hack Stone sees a particularary ridiculous (ree-dick-you-less) defendant, and he wonders whether they are really that stupid. So he goes to FaceBook to see if they have a profile, and if so, sends them a friend request. You would be surprised how many blindly accept a friend request from someone they never heard of, nor has any mutual friends. You have probably seen a link on FaceBook floating around the last few years from Judge Judy about the decay of America. That would be Duane Brooke’s. Yep, he accepted Hack’s friend request. In case you are wondering what Duane is up to, surprise surprise, he is an aspiring rapper.

DefendUSA

Ugh. Really? Why do these people do this? SMH.

AskaMarine

Your question is probably rhetorical, but will reply anyway.

Why? Because of Low Self Esteem. Major Personality Disorder, most likely, Narcissism. Probably a middle child that wanted Mommy and Daddy’s attention and approval.

And as Hondo stated, started off with “small” lies that eventually got bigger and bigger and in their own mind, started believing their own lies.

Selfish, arrogant “Look at me” individuals. And who in the end pays for their lies after they are gone? The families. Which makes me wonder if Gino’s son or wife #3 or 4 ever saw his DD214 or any military papers (real, not forged).

And yep, am curious as to what is on his headstone. He is already listed on Find a Grave, but so far, no picture.

Waiting for the Enablers to come to TAH and defend this Embellisher.

Jarhead

Good post A M. What occurs to me as you explain how the little lies grow….is that the posers line expands exponentially with age. Such is the case here. Damned little he didn’t do according to him. Another ten years of life and he’d have been making up wars he fought in.

AskaMarine

Jarhead, Yep, you nailed it.

He probably would have promoted himself to a 4 Star GO and tell everyone he was an OEF or OIF Vet and was WIA duting those conflicts as well as saving the world from ISIS.

And if Maebus is still in power, he would probably name a Battleship or Aircraft Carrier after Gino.

Thanks for the feedback. Always enjoy reading your posts. ??

E. Z.

I will give you one more laugh about this guy, him and my mother should have got a dishonorable discharge, I was born in 1959, he had a affair with my mother who was also in Navy radiation school, accept he was married supposedly my mother did not know this, I was suppose to be adopted but my grandparents took me and raised me, I never had one contact from my father Eugene Zangara who did know of my birth as he requested once to see me when I was born (I found a letter from him to my mother) but he was denied a visit, he never took any responsibility for me or acknowledged me, I just googled his name today and I found this information on him, this is the most I know of him, it’s pretty sad.

IDC SARC

While adultery is punishable under the UCMJ by up to one year in prison. I’ve never seen anyone get punishment that severe or discharged for it.

I never saw anyone even charged with it unless it resulted in a pregnancy.

E.Z.

Jeez, pregnancy how do you think I was born the stork. I am saying my mom was in the Navy she was 21 he didn’t say that he was married, and he was also in the same radiology dept going to school, he knocked her up and here I am.

Formerly G Z

E.Z. Here’s More news for you. I’m one of his daughters, born the same year as you. It was my mom he was cheating on. So I guess you’re my half-brother. We knew of 2-3 more marriages after my mom (she was #2). Don’t feel left out, he was a deadbeat dad. Left us all when I was (5 yrs) & mom was preg with my sister (heard he got someone preg again). Only knew he was ever a Corpsman, but heard he had racked up tall tales. He also changed his name to Garry in the 70s then back again after all known children were grown (we guessed..so skip out on child support the navy was tacking on his pay.) This “sperm donor” left a lot to be desired in a father and as a man. We are a military family so I do apologize for the black eye to all injured parties.

Elizabeth mohagen

Hi, G.Z. I think we were born around the same months, I was born in August, my mother told me he had a daughter about the same time as me, by the way I am your step sister. If you would like to email me,my email address is mohagen27@msn.com. Glad you chimed in.