Robert E. Wilson, Jr.; Another Beirut phony
Scotty sends us this fellow by the name of Robert E Wilson, Jr. who was a pretty convincing veteran of the Beirut operations.
He claimed that he was Marine Recon, a sniper (of course) that he’d been in Beirut and Grenada (because no one can do just one of those deployments anymore). He was in Desert Storm, retired after 22 years as a Master Sergeant. He was wounded in Grenada, he says, so he missed the trip to Beirut in October 1983.
He was so convincing that Scotty didn’t believe the FOIA when it came back “no service”, so he took another whack at it. He went so far as to call the Marine Corps to make sure he had the right guy;
He may have some service in the Navy, and Scotty is checking that out, but it’s clear that he’s not a Marine, not now or ever.
After he was busted, Robert took down his firearms instructional videos on YouTube.
Category: Phony soldiers
No NDSM? Pfffftttttt
Civi looking for a whole lot of attention….
And he getting it
No gedunk medal? Always a dead-on giveaway.
I keep asking why these clowns don’t just take up writing novels. Now I understand after so many months of looking at their tall tales. They can’t put together a story that requires suspension of disbelief.
Idiot.
FWIW: it’s theoretically possible for someone who participated in operations in Beirut, Grenada, or Panama to have no NDSM. Service performed entirely between 15 Aug 1974 and 1 Aug 1990 inclusive (a period of nearly 16 years) does not qualify for the NDSM.
Ah, the NDSM. The one medal that myself, my two brothers and my two sons all have in common.
But I guess that’s to be expected of the period of service we all put in that started in May 1962 and ended in April 2014.
So if a poser out there needs an NDSM to complete his rack, have them get in touch with me. We have a couple of extras on hand.
Because not every G.I. was awarded the National Defense Service Medal, and because civilians, and not just military personnel, also qualified for the Cold War Recognition Certificate, there’s an organized group of veterans who have been lobbying Congress to create a Cold War Service Medal.
Here’s the URL of my blog post, “ATTENTION: COLD WAR VETERANS!!!”, with more detailed information:
http://writesong.blogspot.com/2011/10/cold-war-victory-medal.html
Note the photograph of my own copy of the Cold War Recognition Certificate:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/6247652654/in/album-72157600591053018/lightbox/
When I read in “SOLDIERS” magazine about the creation of the Air Assault Qualification Badge, with a description of the Air Assault School at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, I realized that every single veteran who had served with the 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile) in the old Republic of Viet Nam, had already qualified by (01) completing the Screaming Eagle Replacement Training School (i.e., “S.E.R.T.S., also known as “P” Training) and/or (02), making at least one helicopter assault against an enemy position.
So, I wrote to the Commanding General of the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky requesting that he issue a blanket order awarding the Air Assault Qualification Badge to every war veteran who served with the 101st Airborne Division in the old Republic of Viet Nam.
Such a blanket order would be similar to that published in the ARMY TIMES and the STARS AND STRIPES newspapers awarding the Republic of Viet Nam Cross of Gallantry, with Palm, Unit Award to every Viet Nam veteran.
In response, I received an Honorary Air Assault Certificate, to which my silver wings were pinned.
Here is the URL of a photograph of that certificate:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/7919536416/in/album-72157600591053018/lightbox/
Only recently have I learned that the authorization for awarding the Air Assault Qualification Badge is NOT retroactive to the Viet Nam War period.
Thus, being made an “Honorary Air Assault Soldier” is the ONLY way that I (and others?) could receive those coveted silver wings.
Good mother of god !!!!
We are truly on a wannabe Marine Kick…
They don’t seem to get it, (aka) Internet, T.V. Radio,
everybody everywhere is on the lookout for you Turds….
So
STOP IT !!!!!!! WTF Over…..
Damn, all these guys with their SV tattooed on them forever. The audacity. I would pay money to use a disc grinder on these guys to aid in their tattoo removal.
And just like that! BANG! goes his good name and reputation.
I don’t comment a whole lot on these stories anymore. I read them, but most of the time, I can’t put into decent words what I’d like to say.
The thing is, the only thing you get to take with you when you die is your good name. Your name, and the memories associated with it, is how folks will remember you.
I can’t imagine leaving my kids with those sorts of memories. But for some folks, I guess, it’s always about them, and the here and now, and not how their actions will impact others.
It shows the big difference between those who served honorably, and those who are wannabes. Selflessness versus selfishness.
I’ll just never understand that latter motivation.
Sniper my ass. Just a guttersnipe.
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All the retirees that I know always carry their ID card with them. On top of that, most veterans I have met, have their VA Card with them too. That is our health insurance and when we go to any medical faculty, that is what we show for being insured.
*Sang to the tune of “Pop Goes the Weasel*
All around the Internet
The poser displayed his stories,
Then suddenly the truth came out,
CALLED on his bullshit!
Nice Rhyme.
Idiots will never learn. They think they are anonymous behind the interweb.
Wilson says the first time someone called him “Gunny” he got an erection.
That’s how you really mess with him – if you see him at the beach in his Speedo’s, everyone start yelling “Gunny”.
His call sign must have been “Dildo 7”.
I am sure Bill Blake will reach out to him shortly.
Reach out to him in a “prison sex” way…
His call sign was “Felcher TWO Golf”
You never know, he might have borrowed Waverly Reynar’s call sign “Gay six-niner”!
These wannabe’s are getting really good at “talking the talk” but at the end of the day they are always tripped up and busted. What a douche.
Looks like he’s holding himself out as a federal agent on his Facebook page, too.
Serious question since I’ve never filed a FOIA on military service: How do you, lacking an SSN, make sure you’re getting the right guy when he’s got a pretty common name like this douche?
Yankee Texan: you might want to read the FOIA Process articles under the tab marked “Military Records” on the site banner. One of those articles indicates what is required for a FOIA request to have a good chance of a “records hit”.
Missed it, thanks.
De nada. Wasn’t trying to come across as a hardass per se, just didn’t want to have to look up and cut/paste the info and/or link. Again. (smile)
What’s up with all the Marine phonies the past few weeks? Maybe May should be Marine phony month from now on. Smile
3/17 Air Cav… I like the sound of it, you are on to something !!!!
I know what you mean 3/17. There seems to be an overload of jackasses claiming the EGA lately. The funny thing about these posers, and I mean funny strange not funny haha, is that they always overdo the badass persona and are usually very disrespectful to the other services. The disrespect they show is always a clear sign of a poser. They don’t seem to understand that while there is general ball busting among the services, it is always with the understanding that we are brothers and sisters in arms.
Perhaps we can call them “Mayrines”? – Smile
I think it’s a kind of delayed mid-life crisis syndrome. These posers are all falling into the 50-55 years old group and are sitting down and reflecting on their lives and what they have or have not accomplished.
Or maybe it’s some sort of a latent homosexual Poser gig and they’re coming out of the closet in hopes of being nominated for membership in the Dutch Rudder Gang.
Or it could be that ZippythePinhead is putting together another Death Squad and readying his forces for another assault on TAH.
The possibilities are endless when striving to be the “Reach Around King”.
The Beirut posers are coming out of the damn woodwork lately. If all of these assholes had actually gone that say they went, I would have got to stay at home!!
As a guy that actually served during that period of time (disclaimer: I did NOT serve in Beirut or Grenada and never saw a shot fired in anger), my theory is that SOME guys that were in during the 80s somehow in a weird way feel “left out” when they see young warriors coming home from the sandbox. The way I look at it is I’m proud of my peacetime service, knowing that in those days we had a commander in chief that respected and honored those who served and made sure that our country was respected by our enemies. ( sorry for the political rant)
Well said
Your 80’s theory is spot on for some of us.
I failed my draft physical in 1968 (obese) and was classified 4-F.
I later wanted to get into the fight, got fit and got myself reclassified 1-A.
I enlisted in June 1972 with options, Infantry MOS, Airborne training and duty and 101st Airborne unit of choice.
I didn’t know the 101st had just redeployed stateside and wasn’t going anywhere. Plus, the month after I earned my 11B MOS they signed the Paris Peace Accords and and the USA wasn’t in the mood to send the Infantry anywhere for a long, long time.
12 years in the 101st, 82nd and 18th Airborne Corps and no action (was at NCO Advanced Course during Grenada).
So yeah, today when I see kids with patches on their right arm, CIB’s and CAB’s…..I definitely feel, “left out”.
So we were at Campbell at the same time.
1/3 ADA 72-74.
B/1/503 Inf Oct 72 – Mar 74
When the 101st went off jump status in 74, I had an enlistment guarantee for 18 months of Airborne duty so, I was given the option of going to the 82nd.
I was 1/327 from 97-02, well after your time. I actually have pictures of me standing in front of the bird that Frankie crew chiefed.
I had the privilege of wearing full color Eagles on both sleeves.
My nickname around the outfit was “Double Eagle.”
I PCS’d off to Germany for my first tour shortly after the Airmobile Badge school started up.
Don’t get me started on the Air Assault Badge. I got, “left out”, on that too.
I felt that anyone who was considered Air mobile qualified should have been automatically eligible for the new Air Assault Badge.
The 3rd Brigade was jump AND Air mobile qualified. The 101st Infantry Diploma they gave us had parachutes and helicopters on it! They considered us qualified to make an air assault.
Yep, “The Airmobile Badge is authorized for local wear only.” Must be removed from uniform upon PCS.
Oh,well, spent two and a half years (RVN and CONUS) with the 101, then never returned to the Division in the remaining 17+ years I put in.
@ CLAW 131:
The award of the Air Assault Qualification Badge is only temporary?
I’ve never heard of that.
What else have I never heard about?
@ CLAW 131, Et Alii:
Just like you, I also wore the full color Screaming Eagle patch on both sleeves of my jungle fatigues.
After I’d already completed one full year in the old Republic of Viet Nam, and volunteered to extend my tour of duty, I began wearing the division patch on my right shoulder.
Someone did say that, in order for that to be authorized, I’d have to leave the division, and return at a later date.
However, aside from that one individual’s opinion, it never became an issue, and my chain of command permitted me to continue wearing the Screaming Eagle on both sleeves.
When I read in “SOLDIERS” magazine about the creation of the Air Assault Qualification Badge, with a description of the Air Assault School at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, I realized that every single veteran who had served with the 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile) in the old Republic of Viet Nam, had already qualified by (01) completing the Screaming Eagle Replacement Training School (i.e., “S.E.R.T.S., also known as “P” Training) and/or (02), making at least one helicopter assault against an enemy position.
So, I wrote to the Commanding General of the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky requesting that he issue a blanket order awarding the Air Assault Qualification Badge to every war veteran who served with the 101st Airborne Division in the old Republic of Viet Nam.
Such a blanket order would be similar to that published in the ARMY TIMES and the STARS AND STRIPES newspapers awarding the Republic of Viet Nam Cross of Gallantry, with Palm, Unit Award to every Viet Nam veteran.
In response, I received an Honorary Air Assault Certificate, to which my silver wings were pinned.
Here is the URL of a photograph of that certificate:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/7919536416/in/album-72157600591053018/lightbox/
Only recently have I learned that the authorization for awarding the Air Assault Qualification Badge is NOT retroactive to the Viet Nam War period.
Thus, being made an “Honorary Air Assault Soldier” is the ONLY way that I (and others?) could receive those coveted silver wings.
I remember as a young Infantryman complaining about not going to war. We compared it to training for the big game and never getting to play. It wasn’t until I got in the “game” that I realized that this “game” really sucks.
@ SLICK GOODLIN:
Congratulations on doing what I also did, i.e., being denied enlistment, but finally overcoming all obstacles to be accepted into the ranks of the United States Army.
It’s too bad that the Combat Action Badge can’t be awarded retroactively to guys who served in the old Republic of Viet Nam, for I reckon every one of us probably earned it.
With VERY few exceptions, there’s no way any American soldier could spend a year or more in that country without coming under fire at some point, even if their MOS kept them “in the rear with the gear”.
Is there a Beirut/Marine movie about to be released??
Because it seems like Beirut Marines are just falling outta the woodwork lately…..is it a seasonal thing??
Doc that is anybody’s guess it seems to go in waves, there is no rhyme or resome
For the jackasry. That people do. But it seems the mantra is go big or go broke
Bhwhahahahanaha
Reasone not resome Fing auto spell check on da I pad
It’s still early in the season. My guess is these shitbags were holed up all winter crafting their stories, but I can’t explain why there are so many of them.
To shed some light on the question of why so many people seems to be coming out of the woodwork lately claiming Beirut service – we are working through WIA claims in print in order to achieve an accurate count once and for all. Very formal process with FOIAs on each claim. In many respects it is like cleaning out the attic and there are still about 20-30 cases still to be determined (i.e. FOIAs have not come back, need more details or eyewitness interviews, etc.) Once this work is completed, it should hopefully slow down and not appear that people are jumping on the bandwagon.
From the other end – the person making claims – I suspect the time period is right based on their age when they could have served in Beirut, too young for Vietnam and too old for either ODS or OEF/OIF.
That said, there are those that just show up on the proverbial doorstep, so we don’t go looking.
I liken the backstory to slapping it together, running it by a few family and people in bars, so it is like working the bunny slopes in skiing. Then, when they feel they are ready, they want to try the black diamond slope and try to enter a Beirut veterans group. We get them talking for an intro to the group to make connections and hookups, so that’s when red flags get raised.
The ones that really draw fire start telling colorful stories of past military exploits, maybe their squad was ambushed and they were the last man standing. So, they oddly call attention to themselves before we have to pull out the bullhorn and say “You, get off of the slope. Put the Facebook down. I repeat, put the Facebook down.”
Forgot to say… when stories and military records do not substantiate claims, we do not place that individual on our WIA list and pass our findings onto the Stolen Valor folks to let them determine a final outcome.
In my view, the exposure is good because in the future it will save somebody doing research dozens if not hundreds of hours only to reach the same conclusion.
Good to hear… So there is a reasone behind the spike..
If it were not for people like Jeff Hamman spending countless hours going over records and talking with those that served these people would go on with their nonsense.
Semper Fi brother, you already know what I think.
Well this Army Joe to Jeff Hamman,
I Say HOOAH !!!!! 🙂
Keep Up the good fight to protect the Honor of this great warriors and heroes !!!!!!
What you said Dave. Jeff has gone the extra mile and it is appreciated!
How many million Marines served in Beirut? According to the multitude of posers these days, it must have been at least a bazillion.
Housing all those guys may explain the national debt. Might also explain the lefty “story” about Yankee imperialism – all those Marines would be a formidable force to behold and look like an invasion. Yeah, that’s it. All these posers are lefties propagating the colonization theory. Uh-huh.
I did the math for you. About .008 Million Marines served in Beirut. If you account for the ones that served on multiple deployments it is closer to .006 Million.
I hear rumor there were many more but cant seem to find their records.
So, that translates to, like, a bazillion and a half, right? 😉
Thanks for the math assist, Dave. Math is, like, so totally difficult. ‘Specially when trying to use the poser theorems.
Bazillion=one metric shit load…
How many million were Force Recon in RVN, then cooked sticky bums on submarines, then went to Beirut and Granada[sic]? Just a hypothetical question…
Maybe not a whole million, but FlavaFave Wavey-boi did have his 214 FB friends believing he was “that one in a million.”
I wonder just what the Navy’s FOIA request will show. Probably a 20 year CS2(E-5). If that’s the case, he sure was the low speed, high drag type.
Kinda like the 30,000 that claim to have served in Vietnam as Navy SEALS when only about 500 really did.
API, I thought the Hair said it was closer to 50,000 that claim RVN SEAL service.
I miss seeing Mr. and Mrs. Hair on a weekly basis. Hope them two are doing well.
The accuracy of FOIA seems to not be all it’s cracked up to be. There are at least half a dozen negative replies from them that were off.
Of course it really doesn’t matter in most cases because the posers have embelished so much that even if thier records were found it wouldnt be near what they claimed.
I get a kick out of his claim of being with 1/9 for Desert Storm. I was attached to the BLT during that time, I knew quite a few of the other SNCOs (not saying all of them) Shitbag here doesnt ring a bell.
Oh and although 1/9 was part of the opertation we didntr get there until 4 months after combat ended ( Summer of 91).
Not to mention I dont remember anyone being IHCA in Ga at the time.
It’s very humbling to be in the presence of such greatness and at such times I just have to come clean and confess that I was just your standard issue 0311 from 1965-69.
Beirut is becoming a popular one for phonies. They must be reading this site about Vietnam, Desert Storm, etc. Decided to go with obscure/less popular incidents/operations ones that they think nobody knows about.
Fake Marine. ARGH
FAKE 0311. Goooooooooood damn it.
I guess it’s only a couple of more years until the fake marine 0311 haiti posers start appearing. Going straight for the neck.
At least Bill Blake wore a helmet in his picture.
This fool is not even trying.
This Robert Wilson goes way beyond stolen valor. He impersonated being a Federal Agent and at one point was a wanted felon. Despite his downright life threatening actions toward his students (shooting over their head inside a vehice) on the gun range, he apparently lied well enough go get Combat Handguns magazine to run a feature article of his “training”. We blasted him publicly a few months ago when we found active warrants on him listed on the Internet.
The sad part is, this guy has been publicly exposed before both for his lies of military service (he also claimed Blackwater) and his being a fraud as a Firearms Instructor. This was several years ago and he just goes underground long enough for the heat to fade then pops right back up with the same lies. He needs to be put in prison for nice long stretch.
I am surprised “Turd” Bolling of Ambassador Worldwide Protection Agency (both national and international) has not reached out to this maggot yet.