Media: No vets died awaiting care, well except that they did
Just in time for the President’s address to the American Legion, the Associated Press reported the news that the Veterans’ Affairs Department Office of the Inspector General couldn’t find any veterans who died while they were waiting for care from the VA hospital according to the ;
Government investigators found no proof that delays in care caused veterans to die at a Phoenix VA hospital, but they found widespread problems that the Veterans Affairs Department is promising to fix.
The AP changed their headline after the president’s speech to the American Legion from this;
To this;
By the way, the president used that little Associated Press headline in his little talk yesterday – that they couldn’t find any dead vets – to prove that he’s getting an undeserved bad rep in the veteran community.
At this point, if the VAOIG told me that water is wet, I wouldn’t believe them. They won’t rid their roles of phonies, like Joe Cryer, they won’t even bounce the list of DOD’s POW/MIA office off of their own lists. Every day, it seems, we read about a new phony who jumped in line ahead of legitimate veterans. Why should we start believing them now?
Apparently, we shouldn’t believe them, or at least we shouldn’t believe the media filter that is protecting them. If you read the Washington Post today, after the President’s speech at the American Legion Convention it says;
The Department of Veterans Affairs’ watchdog confirmed Tuesday that numerous veterans died after receiving poor care in a VA hospital in Phoenix, Ariz., but stopped short of substantiating widely reported allegations that at least 40 veterans died while awaiting care.
The VA inspector general’s office said in a report that it reviewed the records of 3,409 veterans and found 45 cases where patients experienced “unacceptable and troubling lapses” in care. Of those, 28 experienced long delays in care, and six died, the report said. Seventeen other patients experienced care that “deviated from the expected standard independent of delays,” and 14 of them died, the IG found.
On page ii of the executive summary of the report (pdf) it says;
The patient experiences described in this report revealed that access barriers adversely affected the quality of primary and specialty care at the PVAHCS. In February 2014, a whistleblower alleged that 40 veterans died waiting for an appointment. We pursued this allegation, but the whistleblower did not provide us with a list of 40 patient names. From our review of PVAHCS electronic records, we were able to identify 40 patients who died while on the EWL during the period April 2013 through April 2014. However, we conducted a broader review of 3,409 patients identified from multiple sources, including the EWL, various paper wait lists, the OIG Hotline, the HVAC and other Congressional sources, and media reports.
OIG examined the electronic health records (EHRs) and other information for the 3,409 veteran patients, including the 40 patients reflected above in PVAHCS’s records, and identified 28 instances of clinically significant delays in care associated with access to care or patient scheduling. Of these 28 patients, 6 were deceased. In addition, we identified 17 care deficiencies that were unrelated to access or scheduling. Of these 17 patients, 14 were deceased. We also found problems with access to care for patients requiring Urology Services. As a result, Urology Services at PVAHCS will be the subject of a subsequent report. The 45 cases discussed in this report reflect unacceptable and troubling lapses in follow-up, coordination, quality, and continuity of care.
Basically, they found less than forty, but they found more than the zero that the Associated Press (and the President) reported yesterday. By the way, the Army Times says the same thing as the AP said yesterday;
From our buddy, Pete Hegseth, at Concerned Veterans For America;
“Concerned Veterans for America is disappointed, but not surprised, to see the Office of the Inspector General’s report confirm what we already knew about the systemic problems and manipulation of records in the Phoenix VA Health System. Following this scathing report, we hope that VA leadership, including former Phoenix VA Health Care System Director Sharon Helman, will finally be held accountable and fired for the gross mismanagement and falsification of records that the IG’s report confirmed occurred on her watch.
“It is now solely up to President Obama and Secretary McDonald to use the firing authorities recently granted in the VA reform law to make sure that those responsible are held to account and that the VA’s systemic culture of corruption comes to an end. Without that sense of accountability, veterans will continue to be denied the care they have earned. Concerned Veterans for America will continue to monitor the situation long after it has faded from the headlines to make sure that the administration follows through on its promise to our nation’s heroes.”
Category: Veterans' Affairs Department
Given the way he was hyped by the snooze media, you’d have thought that B. Hussein 0bama could just wave his hand and make that mess disappear as well, but alas, he and the DNC’s lackeys in the media just continue to lie and spin, B-HO and the demorats do ten times more for illegal aliens than they do for us Vets!!
President mom-jeans REALLY tried to help, but he was so busy healing the planet and making the rising waters recede, that he just couldn’t get to it.
Maybe his clown-car posse administration might be able to schedule a drum circle and mail out some therapy candles and healing crystals to some randomly chosen veterans. That way, they could all FEEL like someone in the government actually cared about them.
/sarc
Yeah, I hear you on that! This administration ignores us Vets as best as it can while rushing and bending over backward to hand out as much as it can to illegal aliens, a crowd they value much more because they see them as hordes of future demo-rat voters!!
Oooo, candles? Can I have lavender? I love lavender…and some amethyst crystals too? I’ll have some smooth feng shui going on…
/s
The VAOIG Report for anyone interested in reading it.
In reading some of the cases you can see where they garnered the headline from this quote…”While the case reviews in this report document poor quality of care, we are unable to conclusively assert that the absence of timely quality care caused the deaths of these veterans…”
After reading several of the cases, it is likely true the VA did not kill these men but they could have a done a whole lot more for them considering their late stage illnesses that went undiagnosed/untreated by the VA due to shitty practices.
So yes, they all would have died due to their medical conditions, BUT they should have been treated better!!!
http://www.va.gov/oig/pubs/VAOIG-14-02603-267.pdf
At this point in the shit show, the Democrat party should be paying the salaries of the media. Jesus H. Christ, they carry some water for the anointed one. If they would investigate as hard to keep Obama on the straight and narrow as they do to cover for his ass, I would be astounded. Two more years of this shit, then the press can get back to fucking over a Republican president.
Gunny, I would argue that the Democratic Party already is paying the media’s salaries, but that’s just me.
On further reading of the VAOIG Report on Phoenix VAHC, I am sick to my stomach reading the absolute widespread fucktardary that went on there… It happens I am certain in small part everywhere in and outside the VA, but damn!!!
If you neglect a pet, by not giving them medical care that they require, you can go to jail.
If you neglect to give your children medical attention, you go to jail.
But, if you are the VA and your whole purpose is to treat veterans with medical treatment, if they die waiting, “oh, well we can’t really concretely say it was because they didn’t get seen in a timely matter that they died, so its not OUR fault.” and that is okay.
Yet this is the same administration that is now policing lunches that kids bring from home because kids are fat?
“Do what we say, not what we do America.” – DC & Hollywood
“In February 2014, a whistleblower alleged that 40 veterans died waiting for an appointment. We pursued this allegation, but the whistleblower did not provide us with a list of 40 patient names.”
Why didn’t he/she provide the names? HIPAA laws? How convenient. Granted there is an exclusion in which it may be permitted to disclose identifiable health information but why take the risk of being charged with a crime? Under this administration, I wouldn’t.
The whistle blower Dr. Foote was interviewed on TV yesterday after the report was made public and he stated he had given the IG computer records with 22 of the names of patients. It looks like a heavy CYA.
I have given up with VAOIG. William Derek Church has somehow gotten himself into the VA System. He is still rocking the lies and appears to have used his wifes X Husbands DD214 to get into the VA. I have sent them his complete FOIA as well as his complete NG Records which show he has no VA entitlements as he has never been on active duty for more than training, which he never completed. Its the Blind leading the Blind and they wont even do anything when its right in front of them in Black and White.
Heck if it is like the other government programs, they don’t care! The more people they can sign up, the more funding they get, and they don’t give a rat’s ass about the legitimacy of the applicant. There was a magazine article in National Review where one of their reporters got a free Obama phone from one “community organizer”, then got another one from a different “community organizer” standing a few feet away who was representing a different gov’t. sponsored provider. The reporter didn’t qualify for ONE free phone, and yet he got TWO in the space of a few minutes. That fucktard IceMan aka J. Max Taylor had no combat time, yet on his personal blog he is bragging about his VA benefits and his PTSD disability. He’s the one that comes to mind but I bet there have been about 8 others that have been exposed here in the past year that are defrauding the VA in a similar fashion. Glad to know the VA has a hard charging IG that will get to the bottom of all this.
I wonder what the headline would have been if the investigation had been how many women die while waiting for an abortion…. or a sex change.
Maybe they WANT lardassed toad snot sparkle ponies like him/it on the dole because it buys them another demo-rat vote? I would NOT put that past this current administration!!
Church and his fake ranger profile are both back on facebook. Still going with the bullshit!!
Are you positive he is obtaining VA benefits?
Hmmm, time for a road trip to NC to put up some wanted posters? I knew that fat sniveling fuck couldn’t hold himself back any more than he can resist a free two day old jelly doughnut!!
Obama is a liar and a piece pf shit and ALWAYS has been and becomes a smellier one each day. Nothing in this country is valid anymore. Not anything that comes from our government. Nothing from most all MSM, nothing. Id had been a Bush press conference the report would have shown several of the deaths were, as we here believe, caused by VA care or lack thereof and would have been timed to do most damage to Bush. It’s a good thing I am not dying of an incurable disease. If I were, there are things I think I could do to help our nation. Enough said, too early to get all wrapped around the axle about this crap.
The sniveling toad snot-headed DNC lackeys in the MSM called for GW Bush to step aside for much less, I remember hearing liberal lackeys calling for him to resign over his Daughters’ alleged *GASP* underage drinking while they did their damnedest to whitewash Al Gore Jr’s son Al Gore III’s going 160MPH on a rice rocket through some town as well as his dope smoking, remember when “Little Al” risked his life to prove that a Toyota Prius can go 100+MPH when he was running away from the police with drugs in his possession?
Liberals perpetually prove that liberalism is a Mental Disorder!!
WOW! Take note folks. This is Revisionist History at it’s best!!
Textbook …
I’ve noticed this for a long time, but whats up with the Army Times? Do they have veterans that write there. Ever since my first encounter with the publication I’ve been confused at who their target audience was. They never seemed too concerned with soldiers or shared any opinion that I or anybody I knew held.
There’s a reason that links from the Army Times are banned in other places…
A lot of what the Army Times writes is propaganda for the Army oligarchy.
you have a lot of retired guys working at the Army times who obviously know people at echelons above reality still and as such tow the party line.
I’ve noticed this for a long time, but whats up with the Army Times? Do they have veterans that write there. Ever since my first encounter with the publication I’ve been confused at who their target audience was. They never seemed too concerned with soldiers or shared any opinion that I or anybody I knew held.
Now as I read that, there’s 6 that died in one lot, and from another lot of 17 there were 14 died. That looks like at least 20 dead where the headlines say zero. Wonder what a REAL IG would find?
Don’t count on anything happening.
The VAOIG is a worthless and toothless entity.
But, but, the Legion would have been dishonored if this POS liar wasn’t invited and given a forum to tell his lies in person. ~sarc~