Why This Stuff Matters
In the William Derek Church discussion, regular TAH reader and occasional commenter Wesley Wilson (Enigma4you) left a comment that very eloquently points out why stolen valor matters. The comment is focused specifically on the Purple Heart, but the sentiment is the same – albeit different in degree, perhaps – for valor awards, service awards, and special qualifications/service.
I thought the comment was worth repeating, virtually unchanged and nearly in full, here. I certainly can’t say it better.
In so many places around the world right now US service men and women are defending and protecting our way of life. As you and I sit safe in our home my own son is getting ready to deploy on the USS Philippine Sea. My best friend’s son is in his second deployment in Afghanistan. He has already gotten one Purple Heart this deployment. I can’t think of a single Military award that is more unwanted by those that truly have it than the Purple Heart.
Let me explain to you the grief and fear that goes along with that Medal. The Mother, Wife, Father, etc . . . , get a phone call that their loved one is hurt. They don’t know how bad or if he will live, they sit and worry. In the hours that follow every possible outcome is played out over and over again. Because you don’t know if they will live, if they do will they recover? Friends start to call, family starts to come over, you have no idea what to say to them any more than they do to you. If you are lucky you get another call sooner rather than later telling you the status. At the same time you are sitting helpless, the person yo love more than your own life is hurt and 10 thousand miles away and there is not a damned thing you can to to make it better. What worse are the injuries that are bad enough to get the PH but not bad enough to get them out of the combat zone. They sit in a hospital in Afghanistan and try to talk to you via Skype, while at the same time you are on the phone with the doctor wondering why your loved one had no facial expression, can’t find the right word and for all the world is looking like a scared hurt little boy, rather than the warrior you talk to a few short days before. A few moths go by and he gets the Medal pinned on. You get a copy of it sent to you and every time you see it you remember the fear and helplessness you felt.
Mr. Church. This is what you have faked, this is why we loath you. This is why it is so relentless. Every year I stand and hold a flag so many times at so many funerals for Veterans and those KIA that I no longer count them. I was at one a week ago, for my own father in law. He got the PH in Korea. In the 15 years I knew him he never once said a word about it. We all knew the wounds he received so many years ago caused him pain every day but he never once complained.
In CA right now there is a SSG that was shot by a sniper in Afghanistan. He will be in a wheel chair the rest of his life, his young son will never get a piggy back ride from his dad. A Purple Heart is given to a service man or woman who is injured/wounded in combat. I hate that award, I wish the families of those that have it got something to show for the pain they feel every time someone gets it.
I am fortunate that I can travel. Every year I go to Arlington. I stand on that hallowed ground and thank god for what we have in our Country. I see those grave stones and I think of them as a forest that protects our way of life. Each one represents and man or woman who gave all or part or their life for our freedom. That forest of stone is watered by the tears of the loved one that represent them.
Mr. Church, you have committed a huge injustice to every man and woman who has ever worn the uniform or shed a tear for someone who did. You claim false honors, you falsely claim to have been one of those that shed blood for our way of life. You come here and give a half-assed apology, never admitting to any wrongdoing, and back that up with a more lies. You claim that we involved your family, the truth is you did the second you lied. The sad part is that you think you have been wronged. You yell foul or want us to ease up. I have news, this is not a game, like many of the honorable men and women who have posted here I see you as an enemy if our nation who must be defeated. You and those like you are a plague. You are a thief. Your family, community and nation have the right to see you as you really are, not as the fraud you built your life of lies on. It shames me to think that you have as much right to call yourself an American as those that died to protect our way of life and who sacred honor you have stolen. The name of this site is This Ain’t Hell, but it will work as hell for you until you either truly repent with a real apology that calls out your sins, or you meet your maker and are condemned to the eternal damnation of the real hell.
Well said, my friend. Damn well said.
Author’s note: edited to explicitly credit the original author by-name. Name was omitted originally to provide some degree of identity screening in the event the original author did not want their name prominently featured here at TAH. Permission to use the original author’s name has been given below.
Category: Reality Check





Hand Farking SALUTE Enigma4you
/just cause I hadn’t said it before.
I’m going to use that later for the Stolen Valor too, man that is good.
Outstanding.
God damnit. First post I read in a while, and I’m fucking reacting to the dust here at work, gotta be the dust… well said!
Standing ovation.
Enigma4you…I haven’t heard it said better. Thank you and thank you again. Seasonal allergies kicking up in here.
The quintessential summary of this problem. Well said, sir, well said.
No way I could have said it better, E4U. Thank you. OFS!!
That eloquent and heartfelt statement should be bronzed or engraved in marble — it definitely calls for a permanent, prominent, place on This Ain’t Hell.
–ghp
Begins slow clap.
Enigma4you: let me know if you want by-name credit for the above, amigo. If so, I’ll edit it to reflect that.
I dont think anyone could put it any better ! Thanks also for the posts on the Topix site..
Hit the nail smack dab on the head,
Says it all, Beautiful.
Thank you, Jonn, for showcasing this wonderful expression of why it is that we do this. Enigma4you said exactly what so many of us have been trying for years to say. It’s not that we have failed to say it right, it’s just that E4y said it so much better.
Thank you!
Fricken-A right, Bubba!
You put into words that which many of us have felt, but haven’t had the self control to say it so eloquently. I admit to being one of those.
Spot on.
Nice.
Where is the like button?
Another thing for you poseurs to consider–what would a parent, spouse, or child hug? Their loved one who sacrificed their all, or the piece of silk and metal that is all that is left of them?
And think about how you cheapen that. Maybe then you’ll understand our animosity towards what you are and what you do.
Yep you can use my name. When what I wrote made prime time so to speak I had to call my best friend and tell her I used part of her story. I also had to get up with my son, who at the moment is working his ass off getting ready to deploy this Saturday.
My friend will be making a post here shortly.
I hope she will share at least a part of her story.
Article updated. Again, thanks.
Yes, this stuff matters. It matters because several of my colleagues at MNF-I CMD GP were KIA in Diyala in January 2007, and I have lost other friends and colleagues in deployments and training accidents during my mil career. It matters because I was assigned to Fort Bliss EOC in March 2003 when Bliss’s 507th Maint. Co. was ambushed and destroyed in Nasiriyah, and we had to notify and organize dozens of casualty assistance officers to make their rounds on-post to notify the families; I still remember that day as clear as a bell. It matters because we vets have experienced this first-hand, and for you posers to make pretend like this is a dress-up game is beyond nauseating, and fill us with a burning anger and fury of which you have no understanding or comprehension. There is no foregiveness for you, never ever…
Jonn can you pin this to the homepage somewhere for everyone to see. Think it would benefit first time readers as well as be a warning to the William Church’s of he future who come here to cry foul at being exposed.
This needs to be forwarded to Commander Phil Monkress and his supporters at All Points Logistics to include the dishonorable Colonel W.
Were it possible, those words should be required reading before anyone could get their first post approved.
Now, how do we make a smiley bowing to the awesomeness of E4y?
Outstanding!
Well said, brother.
Now Church….let me make really clear for you not to misunderstand….this is brought on the by fact you are a complete and utter douchebag. This won’t end until you grow up!! Not out, up!! Man up, you piece of shit.
Extremely well said, E4U, and like i said, I’ve lost Comrades overseas myself, so it grates my ass when I see posers flaunting a PH, let alone a BSM, etc.!
William Derek Church the roly-poly Round ranger, it’s time for you to grow u, just look at how Gregory C. Banks’s charade had gone up in Hiroshima & Nagasaki-sized mushroom clouds!
I am glad William Derek Church got another google hit.
@21 Enigma4you Thank you for your service and please pass along to your son the grateful thanks of this a brother veteran. My God bless and keep him safe and bring him home soon. He and all who go with him. Amen
I got one question going forward- have any of these guys also claimed to be of a ‘protected class’ on top of being fake soldiers?
I don’t recall seeing any; the reason I put this forth is that sooner or later, some are going to start screaming RAAAAAAAACISST!!!! HOOOOMOOOOOPHOOOOOBIC!!!! on top of being outed as fakes. They could scream out people as being discriminatory against other things, but in my mind it’s only a matter of time before this becomes a problem.
Yeah, fake is a fake, but I’m thinking there is going to be a problem with one of them.
Well said Sir! Thank you.
@26 OWB, if it was possible, I’d prefer it tattooed to their foreheads.
To: Enigma4you
Neither you or your son will ever be allowed to buy a beer in any drinking emporium I’m occupying. Your money is worthless there.
@43, the same “LEEEEEROY JENKINS!!” famous for the WoW YouTube video?
Hondo,
Can you Email me please? I have something I would like to talk over with you.
Thanks
Thank you Enigma4you. So well said.
Jonn, Hondo,.. If y’all ever decide to have an “Excellent Post Hall of Fame”, I would immediately nominate E4U’s composition for it. And DITTO to what SFC D said!!
I will say part of what I wanted to say to Hondo in an Email here.
Stolen Valor is a very loose term. TO me its more about stolen honor. Many of the people here have seen real war and crisis up close. We know hoe it feels to loose a friend. We dont often talk about the stress these losses put on the families and how they feel about the people that pretend to be what they are not.
I have been in contact with a very close friend of mine that lost her brother. With her permission I believe I can do justice in some small part to how her family has been affected by their loss and how these guys steal what the families rightfully believe is something sacred.
I believe that I can do this in 3 or four parts. I wanted a go ahead from Hondo,TSO or John that they would review what I wrote and if they find Merit to post it.
My Friend Colleen Posted this on the face book side. I know many of us avoid Facebook so I thought I would copy it here. As the mother of the Army soldier mentioned above, I appreciate everything my friend has tried to get across in his comments. Wesley called me and told me he had used my sons story as part of this commentary to Mr. Church and asked me to read it. He apologized for using it without asking my permission to do so. He has nothing to apologize for. After reading what he wrote I sent him a text (I was unable to form intelligible words from crying) Wesley’s word of “helpless” is the closet word to accurately describe what it feels like everyday as a parent of an injured soldier. The fear never leaves you. Every night I go to bed I see the void, blank expression he had on his face. Seeing him struggle just to remember his own name and be able to speak it out loud. the fear every time he goes back out on a mission, i wonder if the next call you get from an unknown number is going to be even worse then that first call. I see wounded soldiers everyday on TV struggling to gain some sort of normal life after injury and wonder if the next soldier to make that struggle is going to be my son. Then I realize he is already struggling with that everyday and every night when he tries to sleep. I wake up every morning and wonder if his head injuries are going to catch back up to him and cause him more issues later in life?. I go to bed every night praying he can get a restful nights sleep and have a night without the nightmares that have been plaguing him. Crying uncontrollably has become a normal way of life for me. It happens everyday. Tears of joy and tears of fear and pain all mixed up into feels that can not be described. Joy- that I am lucky that my son… Read more »
Colleen and Wesley : You are not shedding your tears alone today, my friends.
Thank you for your brave service as the family members of Heroes. Thank you for raising Heroes, and thank you for serving yourself. I send you hugs, prayers, heartfelt gratitude and warm wishes of peace of mind for your’s and your sons’ futures.
If these frauds saw even one-tenth of one percent of what the real people have seen in warfare, their insides would turn to jelly and they would be found hiding under blankets and boxes.
Damn people…..I wish the cleaning people would DUST my cubicle occasionally…..
/trying arduously not to *sob* in front of my co-workers.