Daniel Borunda; phony pilot/AF Special Forces
Scotty sends his work on this fellow Daniel Borunda, who was in the Air Force and, his stories alternate between being a pilot and some sort of Air Force special ops dude. One minute, he’s sitting in the cockpit of his Raptor, the next, he’s beating the bush with Army SF teams;
But it turns out that he did less than three years in the mid-80s, got out as an Airman Basic (E-1), was stationed in England and he was a Morse Code Operator;
Well, that’s almost like a pilot, right?
Category: Phony soldiers
The hat is bigger than the wearer.
Seriously, anyone here can come up with better stories than these silly people think up. When will they learn?
I had a car salesman tell me that he was in Air Force Special Forces. He used to “fly around and drop stuff on people”. Turns out that he monitored air traffic. He didn’t make the sale.
Hmm. Active duty for 2 yrs 6+months, and discharged as an E1.
Not exactly normal. Wonder what happened?
Jesus…..what a fuckstick…..3 years in and out as an Airman Basement (E-1) He was busted I’m sure.
E-1 AB (no stripes) to E-2 Amn (1 stripe) is 6 months time in service and time in grade.
E-2 Amn (one stripe) to E-3 A1C (2 stripes) is 6 months time in grade and 1 year time in service and you must have finished your tech school or your CDC ojt package to make your 3 level AFSC.
Not hard at all. This dude should have been at LEAST an A1C after 3 years.
I made SrA my last year in and then they usually dangle Sgt (in the 1980s Hard Stripe with the star) to get you to re-enlist.
Now they deleted “Buck Sergeant” in May 1991 and they the first E-4 SrA were promoted with the next stripe being E-5 SSgt after that.
Complete Failure here.
ChipNASA: I’m guessing more than just busted. Leaving active duty as an E1 at 2 1/2 years often means (1) Admin discharge for cause, (2) OTH in lieu of court-martial, or (3) punitive discharge as the result of court-martial conviction.
It’s about time that the AF Special Ops guys had a faker.
@5 Hondo….Article 15 I’m sure. Agreed….I was just curious if we’d be able to find out the What?
His stories of daring do are so fantastical, this dude has mad imagination skills, I’ll give him that.
/jebus tap dancing christ.
ChipNASA: one or more Article 15s could indeed have taken his stripes and made him an E1. But an Article 15 alone can’t result in a discharge; something else has to happen over and above the Article 15. I was listing the possibilities leading to the early discharge.
If I remember correctly, “Soup Sandwich” (Androsky) ended up getting tossed – BCD, I think – because of a court-martial conviction.
It’s FUCKTARD FRIDAY – Air Force Edition!!! This zeroed-out zoomie must thinks he’s a GI Joe character, able to simultaneously pilot a F-22, go on patrol with an ODA, and romance Lady J at the same time…
School failure could have kicked him, especially more than one.
OWB: possibly. But given his AFSC, his unit of assignment and duty location, and where he was separated – I’m guessing it was something else.
He must have done something really bad. He was stationed in England and was discharged there, not sent back to the US and discharged.
If not court martialed, isn’t there still a mechanism in place to chapter folks out for pattern of misconduct?
That might be the case here.
i remember back in nam, shit was crazy. we had Navy subarine engineers running around the bush with the SF. the marines couldnt even remember what they had enlisted as or if they had been drafter. Air force desk jockeys pulling their pistols on each other and dont even get me started on christmas in cambodia, that is seared in my brain.
i dont know why people want to be after the fact heroes, be proud that ya had the balls to sign up in the first place, most our country’s youth didnt.
USMCE8Ret: there certainly is. In the Army, in the 1980s that was called a “Chapter 13” – so called because that was the chapter in the enlisted separations regulation that covered it. (I think it’s the same chapter in the reg today, but it may now be a different chapter and I’m too lazy right now to look it up.) I’m pretty sure all four services have something equivalent.
As I recall, in the early 1980s Army it generally took multiple Article 15s before most commands would entertain a Chapter 13 action. Can’t speak for the USAF of that era.
That, an OTH discharge in lieu of court-martial, or a BCD as part of a SpCM sentence would be my three guesses. Depending on the underlying misconduct (if in fact that was the case), it could well have been any of the three.
Yeah, that’s my guess too, Hondo.
I saw where the guy also claims to having flown F-22’s during the 80’s too.
Somebody needs to dot this guy’s dits.
He could have been discharged for having a pattern of minor disciplinary problems or failing to adapt to service in the Air Force. It is a way to get rid of sad sacks before they do something that causes serious trouble for themselves or their unit. One article 15 could do it. It would be interesting to know if that is what happened in this case.
I have seen his story played out in countless “B” war movies. The profession soldiers I served with never behaved that way, especially on patrol. I was a run of the mill 11B and our “operations” consisted of patrols. When I left the Army I enlisted in the Air Force. To leave the AF after almost 3 years as an E-1, says f@ck-up to me. @14 Smitty you have the “story telling” down pat. When I was in the Air Force I heard a lot of them talk about things like this guys story. Even though they served in Vietnam as telephone switching technicians. I agree Smitty, there is a lot of pride to be had in signing up and serving, especially in a war zone. Just be proud of that and let the high speed stuff go to the guys who went the extra miles to be truly, high speed. And be thankful they did so.
My “buddy” was an Army Airborne Ranger, trained to fly by Air Force fighter pilots in Texas, and years later went to UH-1 transition from the 6th Special Forces. Not Air Force or SF,nor phony either.
This clown though…
Hondo, maybe it was a chapter 15. 🙂
Twist: didn’t want to go there. But since you mentioned it . . . yeah, Chapter 15 and the other service equivalents were indeed still operative in 1984. (smile)
OK, let’s try “failure to progress in training” instead of a school failure. The time requirements slipped one way or the other over time, but generally, not advancing to the next skill level within 24 months was an automatic out. Failing an end of course exam twice typically meant discharge. Cross training into another specialty after failing to advance just didn’t happen much.
I don’t believe it had to do with schooling. If he didn’t pass ditty-bop school he never would have got the RAF Chicksands assignment. And failing in the CDC’s they give you multiple chances to pass before reassignment. I’ve put the question to some of my other USAF Intel buddies to see if any served at Chix with this guy.
Not to change the subject guys but,
“A Very Merry Christmas”, “And a Safe And Happy New Years To All”.
Where The Tall Corn Grows
@25 Thank you and a Very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you, your family and all those who post here.
Nick “Soup Sandwich” Androsky has more real medals than this fiction writer, lol.
Having been stationed at RAF Chicksands (twice)it was definitely not in any way SF related. Plus back then you had to try really hard to get kicked out of the USAF. Especially when this tard worked there.
He probably spent the majority of his time in the orderly room since that was where all the “special” folks who got in trouble ended up. What a loser.
The guy in the photo is wearing an enlisted uniform, not an officer’s.
Shitbag for sure,busted for drugs? He was a mouthy fuck? 3 yrs still a E-1? He tells a good tall tail.What a loser.
I sent Airman Basement the link to his entry here and said
” Hey Numbnuts,
Guess what, You’re FAMOUS!!”
Way to go Airman Basement Loser.
and signed it
SMSgt ChipNASA, Ret, USAF/USAFR 1984-2007.
Lets see if I get a reply.
/doubtful
@31 “Atta Boy give ’em the Guns”
Merry Christmas to you, too, Sam.
@32 CBSenior,
I doubt Airman Fuckstick would even get the reference.
/ channeling Green Thumb “TURD”
Another alternative…. judging by his posting to an ESS squadron, he could have been a Morse intercept operator, and a lot of the offenses which could have gotten him busted were also offenses which could have revoked his clearance. If he declined reclassification, he could have been released from servioe with a GD early.
My beloved AF is taking a beating this week. “Sigh”
I was all in until I read “hedging him on” WTF? Is he channeling Wickre?
I’m betting he was a Chapter 13 (Failure to Conform to a Military Lifestyle) after repeated Article 15’s, I saw some Sad Sacks get put out that way when I was AD in the early 90’s. Usually when one would get reduced to E2 or E3 after three years’ service, they got kicked out under the QMP *Quality Management Program)program which called for personnel to be put out if they were still a certain rank after so much time, like E3 after 3 years, E4 after 8 years, E5 after 12 years,… I wonder if the AF had anything like the Army’s QMP in that day?
I can not say enough how pissed this guy, and others like him, make me. We have lots of folks who honorably serve, and yes some go above and beyond so to speak. And from my 20 years of service, the ones who do have earned the medals are the ones who talk the least about their actions.
What a Fuckwad!!
Looks a lot like that APL Colonel.
GreenThumb, you’ll be happy to know that I have a bad guy modeled on phildo, but named Phelps Affenteil. And he’s as full of BS as any oddball county mounty in Florida. 🙂
Yeah, the MoH with OLC must be on his restricted ‘fiche.
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Our hero pilot’s Facebook page is “currently unavailable”.
Bedwetter.
Hmmmm, if, it took 1 Master’s degree back in the 80’s to be accepted into the C.I.A, then, what does multiple Master’s and PhD’s Degrees get you?
Maybe Scotty can answer that for us, or maybe, just maybe Scotty can pull this loser’s educational and agency files.
Now, That would definitely clear up what happened to an Airman who after 3 1/2 years in the 6950th Electronic Security Group (ESG) forefathers and Mentors of National Security Agency (NSA), Joint Operations Communications Committee (JOCC), and other Top Secret Agencies working at RAF Chicksands and an Airman who held a Top Security Clearance and just shy of successfully completing his long-term is never photographed in any uniforms depicting rank and ribbon bars, nor is there any real information detailed in the DD214 that was provided to you here on this ridiculous blog.
And, just to be clear on facts, anyone serving in any of the military branches who had gone 3 1/2 years without rank or ribbons would most definitely have been discharged through Article 15 and Dishonorably Discharged.
So, how does one disappear from the Air Force with a basic and very general DD214 and resurfaces in agencies most of you will never likely have heard about and never will.
Hmmmm, you all are lacking a profile. Since we all know for a fact that the C.I.A only recruits individuals with a Master’s Degree, then you all should start there.
You don’t have enough pieces to the puzzle to make an educated or professional assessment and reach a logical conclusion.
I think that’s why they call it The Central Intelligence Agency, because they only hire Intelligent individuals.
But, then, again it takes 99% or higher during qualifying, entrance, exams to be considered for enlistment into the Air Force.
And, seeing that most of you are not Air Force, well, I understand that you all are working with mental limitations.
What can I say.
Good luck and GOD BLESS.
Funny thing is he never finished his masters in the 80’s if he finished it at all. From friends of his I know was a currier for a law firm for a few years in the early 90’s and if it was like he said it is why would they say anything about him at all to thro people off? Not that he was an E-1 when he left at 3.5 years in? Would only raise more questions? Does not add up? And people that has gone thru what he has claimed do not talk about as he has. Just don’t happen!