Raymond S. Nash; phony Vietnam veteran
Meet Sergeant major Raymond S. Nash, another steely-eyed killer from the Vietnam War. He says he was Force Recon there and used to rescue POWs. Didn’t everyone? Well, he was in the Marines during Vietnam;
He started out as an infantryman, well until they deployed Marines to Vietnam in 1965;
In 1965, he transferred to another specialty and became an “Admin Man”, it looks like he never left Camp Lejeune and unless Division Band is a code word for Force Recon, I don’t think so;
No service medals in his records for actually being in Vietnam, but that doesn’t stop him from claiming Vietnam Service;
And then he went in the Guard and got activated for the Gulf War on June 30, 1991 – three months after the war ended- for four months;
His awards on the FOIA say he has the Southwest Asia Service Medal, but it was awarded until 1995 for service in that theater. he also has the Kuwait Liberation Medal and that was awarded for everyone who served there until 1994. The fact that he doesn’t have the Saudi award for the Kuwait Liberation proves that he wasn’t there during the war – since it was only awarded for service from January 16th – February 28th 1991. But somehow he got a Bronze Star Medal;
I guess being a clerk has it’s advantages, huh? Notice the dates on the Bronze Star citation don’t match the dates in his records – not even closely. Oh, yeah, all of those years in the service, including his active time in the Marines and he didn’t even get close to Sergeant Major, but that’s what’s on the business card I have.
Category: Phony soldiers
never go full retard
C’Mon Jonn, this guy’s totally legit; he was the Gyrene Force Recon contribution to Reaper 6’s MACV Murder Team as described in Andrew Rafkin’s totally true book on the subject. Nash’s true records are hidden away for “plausible deniability”; dontcha know?
So the phony clerked the Bronze Star into his official record?
of course he has to have an SF Patch and Jump Wings on his vest too… what self respecting poser would be without those as well.
There are old posers
And there are bold posers
And apparently there are plenty of
Old Bold Posers
Dishonorable bag of shit. Yeah, that vest is a real piece of work. Plenty of fakery and bullshit to keep him warm at night.
He self-awarded himself a bronze start it appears. Absolutely stellar integrity!!!!
Better watch out Jonn… That’s RICE PADDY DADDY you’re calling out. He just may get his “lawers” out and start making things real hard on you
(/sarc off)
Bronze star***
I was just about to give the guy a SMALL modicum of credit for the Bronze Star, then I see the dates pointed out.
Jeez, you’d think even a pogue could keep his admin shit straight, but noooooooooooo…
I’m more proud of the NAM’s I earned legitimately than the BS he put on without earning it.
Good grief. I read that Bronze Star certificate and it sounds like what you would expect to see on a PCS award for an AAM (Army Achievement Medal) for you non Army folks. No specific act cited just an attaboy for showing up for work.
Shitbag.
Off topic, I’ll jump ahead and say I’ll be off the grid for a few days (so I’ll likely miss the TAH post)… but to all of you who have served in our beloved Corps, I wish you all a Happy 238th Marine Corps Birthday.
@11–there’s that too. Again, I did more to earn any LOC or NAM than this guy supposedly did to “earn” his BS.
Then again, who was the poseur who as an E-5 at Fort Carson wrote himself up for THREE MSM’s? I know he was in the BDMSP Memorial Tourney at some point.
Division Band is code for Force Recon….nothing like sounding the charge on the trumpet and streaming down the hill on your horse with your mates…oh wait that wasn’t ‘Nam, that was Fort Apache…..
No turd like an old turd. And you know what those are good for? Fertilizer.
I went to a Vets Day thing at an elementary school yesterday. There were some geezers there in “uniform”. I’m a geezer but only wore a ball cap and a shirt with an 82nd patch. Thanks to TAH, I was checking out the guys in “uniform”. I’m happy to report that none looked hinky. Highest award I saw was an ARCOM. BTW the school went all out. The kids lined the halls waving flags as the vets walked through. Then there was a 1 hour patriotic program that included a video of old pictures of all the vets in attendance…grand fathers etc of the elem school kids. Nice to see a school putting a face on history.
You didn’t have to announce yourself as being a geezer – your usage of the term “hinky” proves it 🙂
VOV: or in Afghanistan, during late 2001. (smile)
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/operation-enduring-freedom-the-first-49-days-4/
No AAM, no ARCOM, NO USMC ribbons. Really?
Now we all know that since he served in ‘Nam, he did so many things… stuff seared into his mind… destroying villages to save them… rescuing POW’s, killing NVA generals WITH HIS MIND… riding the Mekong with John Kerry and going across the border into Cambodia on SUPER SEKRIT SKIRRL missions. He’s one Bad Ass MOFO…
HMCS(FMF): I’ll agree regarding him being a “MOFO”, but not much else.
Cut him slack. Pencils are a lot like punji sticks and those damn pens were a lot like booby traps. You never knew which one was going to explode in your pocket at altitude. And if you heard those horns in the band, you would have sworn it was a Chinese attack.What’s more, the percussion section was pure hell and the cymbals still haunt him. To this day, whenever he hears a thunderstorm, he starts marching. It’s horrible. The poor bastard.
Over Macho Grande, Air Cav?
Yeah, I don’t think I’ll ever get over Macho Grande.
Directed to our latest addict to the turd powder.
Sergeant does not equate to Sergeant Major, dumbass.
Please report (yourself) to the nearest hole in the ground and promptly place yourself between it and the rock above it. That will be your new area of responsibility until relieved by the next douchebag.
The Army does manage to do things on paper that doesn’t make any sense.
My Form 20 indicates that, when I was returning from Viet Nam, I was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division “BAND”!!!
But, I was never in any band.
I couldn’t even play an instrument.
My last job in Viet Nam was in Da Nang, cleaning and packing much used M-16 rifles for shipment back to the States.
When they told me I was getting the Bronze Star Medal, I laughed, because I thought they were joking.
But, then they handed me a copy of the orders with my name underlined in red.
I realize it’s ONLY a Bronze Star Medal, and that it’s for Merit, not Valor, but never the less, I treasure that award as if it were the Medal of Honor.
Another thing that (I think) the Army messed up was when they gave me my plane ticket from Viet Nam to Israel, for a thirty day special leave.
Instead of a return ticket from Israel back to Viet Nam, my return ticket was to NEW YORK CITY!
Can you BELIEVE that stuff?
Boy, that was neat!
I got to tour Israel, AND visit my folks in the United States, AND in the process, completely circle the globe, starting from Tan Son Nhut, and ending in Cam Ranh Bay.
What a great adventure!
Thank you, Tax Payers.
What a shitbag.
@10. From my recollection, they used a lot of “generic” award write-ups for service awards. I know my ARCOM from Desert Storm is completely nondescript. It made it easy on the clerks as units redeployed–just go in and change the names, units, order number and dates and hit print. Franky, my BSM for service in OIF reads the same way–my name, my unit, approximately my dates–and then a generic write-up about service in support of ground combat operations. Maybe they were counting the prison riots and rocket attacks. Not speaking to the legitimacy of his award or not, just that most service awards will likely read nearly the same way. Not the valor ones, they were specific to teh action. But definately the service ones. And looking at the December 1991 date, that was probably when the majority of the 22nd SUPCOM HQ was preparing to redeploy; Pagonis’ bio on the Army General Officer Management page says he returned to the states in January 1992–so they were probably churning out the BSMs in December of ’91.
@4… You beat me to it! What a douchenoozle. And SF on the top left to boot!
@15 We had a Veterans Day ceremony at our kids’ school this morning. Most of those in uniform worked at the local base (Los Alamitos, CA), so a phony would’ve been real dumb to show up all kitted out in their surplus store specials. Very nice ceremony, they did a roll call of all the vets there and called up the students they were related to. I was surprised at and glad to see how many WW2 vets were still with us. A 90 year old Navy vet got up to teach his great-grandson how to salute. A dad who is currently in the Army handed his son the rubbing of his uncle’s name from the Vietnam Memorial.
Most importantly, the school made sure that the students learned an important lesson: to thank our service members for all they do for our country.
Thank you for your service.
Turd!
@4 Exactly! How ridiculous is this: he’s surrounded by vets. None of them notice this shit:
Claims USMC Force Recon, but on the upper left of his vest (our upper right) he’s wearing a winged Army SF SSI. The fuck?
Also, a few inches below that, and below the Naval Parachutist wings, he’s rocking Master Parachutist wings. That is a no-go for the USN/USMC. The only version of Army Jump Wings that the USN/USMC are authorized to wear is the basic version. The Devil Dogs and Squids I know that rate them call them “Lead Sleds”, lol… Anyways, once they rate anything more than the Lead Sleds, they replace them with the gold Naval Parachutist wings. Point is, Marines and Sailors would never earn those Master Wings, only the Golds-.
I’m a fucking Flyboy! If I know this shit, HOW DO OTHER VETS NOT CALL THEM OUT?! Then we also get friends of phonies/embellishers who say “Oh, he/she is a good person, I’m sure they just messed up their awards by accident”. I really just can’t stand this shit anymore. He is fucking SURROUNDED BY VETS in this picture.
In my AFSC (MOS) in the USAF, Airmen can rate accouterments that most Flyboys don’t usually rock on their uniform- mainly Army ribbons & skill badges. So when I see a service member looking at one of our Airmen with a raised eyebrow, I’m totally fine with it- as long as they ask questions to confirm we’re not bullshitting- in fact I I prefer it; it’s a deterrent to embellishing.
@23 Mr. Mallernee, what pay grade did you hold when you received the Bronze Star? Normally, nowadays, in larger conventional units, it seems senior enlisted and O’s get the BS for their deployments. E-5ish through E-6ish get an Achievement or Commendation medal. Junior enlisted get, at most, an achievement medal- most likely they get their CIB/CAB/CAM/CAR, coined, a handshake, and an “atta boy”.
-M
Mark F, I have to second that. When we got near the end of our A-stan tour, nearly all of the personnel in my Brigade that were Platoon Sergeant and above received BSM’s while E5 and below got ARCOM’s and AAM’s.
@30 Yeah, exactly, Infidel…I dunno how you feel about it, but I think most of the time it’s a pretty ridiculous system. Look at it this way- CAPT Swenson almost didn’t receive his MoH, but AAMs/ARCOMs/BSMs are handed out for keeping the ice cream stocked (yeah, I’ve seen it).
-M
@29 – 30 MARK F:
I was a Specialist Four (E-4) when I was decorated with the Bronze Star Medal and the Army Commendation Medal.
My MOS was 31 L 20, Field Radio Relay and Carrier Equipment Repair.
I was in Headquarters and Support Company, 501st Signal Battalion (Airmobile), 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile) at Camp Eagle (between Hue and Phu Bai), Republic of Viet Nam.
Bronze Star Medal certificate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/6164805292/in/set-72157600591053018
Army Commendation Medal certificate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/writesong/6164270905/in/set-72157600591053018
Slide Show of my Viet Nam photographs:
http://www.flickr.com//photos/writesong/sets/72157600591053018/show/with/687117914/
@32 Mr. Malernee,
Thanks for posting all that, I enjoyed looking/reading through it all.
By the way, you look pretty bad ass in that kilt- seriously.
-M
Mr. Mallernee,
Thanks for your service… I also enjoyed viewing your pics, however you might want to take those down and replace them with pics that DON’T have your SSN listed on them for anyone to steal!
McD
25 year AD USAF member
During 1988, I had an opportunity to drop Ray Nash into an Illinois State Police holding cell but failed to take advantage of the situation. At the time, Ray Nash was a very strange indiv but not yet a fraud. Summer was hot as heck in Chicago. Private Ray Nash shows up in civvies at a 12th Group weekend drill in Arlington Heights. He was trying to enlist or transfer into the unit. He had rode Greyhound from near Springfield and somehow made it from downtown Chicago to Arlington Heights on a Friday night. He hung around all weekend and did nothing. I believe the First Sergeant interviewed him and did not recommend or endorse his request for assignment. The guy had no money, no change of socks, etc. He had a cheap briefcase that he carried around like the Presidential Aides’ Nuclear Launch Code “Football”. Lo and behold, after final formation, the First Sergeant says to me: “You live downstate, right. Could you give that guy over there a ride. He doesn’t have a car and he doesn’t have the means to get home” “Sure, First Sergeant. I’ll get him right away. Do you know where he lives?” “Near Springfield” I retrieve Nash, we get into my 81 VW Scirocco with 197,000 miles and no AC, and move out. It’s hot, and he immediately falls asleep. So far, all OK I pick up Interstate 55 and head south towards Springfield and ultimately my HOR (300 miles from Arlington Heights). About halfway between Joliet and Bloomington, directly in the middle of nowhere, I get hit with this stiff arm across my face and then into my neck. This blow is accompanied by loud, violent screaming and shaking by Nash, strapped in the pax seat. I almost put the VW into the median – very unexpected. I get the car under control, Nash is beating my head with his left arm, and his right arm is stiff as a board. He’s shrieking and spitting all over my car. I pull onto the shoulder and stop. I tried to stick my fingers… Read more »
So the Vietnam force recon Marine lived with his mom?
To err on the side of caution, I always assume that people suffer from one medical malady or another. For example, I believe that Paul Wickre must have suffered some kind of stroke that affected his mental balance. That can be the only explanation for his behavior.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/9500+Everman+Ave,+Overland,+MO+63114/@38.702773,-90.3656029,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87df347ad25d4997:0x649558ba260e5b64
Curiosity gets the better everytime.
“SGM” Nash’s business card shows an address at 9500 Everman, St Louis MO (actually located in Overland, MO).
This house appears to be within short walking distance of the old ARPERCEN – National Records Center Complex which was at 9700 Page in Overland MO.
Maybe Ray was employed there ?
No good deed goes unpunished.
Just a crusty, old loser.
This guy must place his head on his pillow at night and to ponder how others must think about him and all his patches and buttons that lift himself up. To lie to yourself and others on the issues of war requires a person who feels sorry for himself on a level of manic depressive. He needs to be arrested and publicly humiliated.
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I met this guy in Branson a few years ago. He seems to enjoy celebrating veterans day at the Rowdy Beaver and outback bar. I even saw him March in the veterans day parade. I had no idea about the phony as I am no expert on patchs and army insignia. After seeing this website I was sick to think that I actually drank and celebrated with this guy.I hope he gets caught and called out. Thank you for this website keep up the good work.