Armando Cordoba busted

| November 19, 2011

Back in September, we mentioned a Stolen Valor case that our buddy, JD at Professional Soldiers, was working on, in regards to Armando Cordoba (sounds like a cabana boy, doesn’t he?). Armando claimed in a local newspaper that he had been a POW of the North vietnamese Army.

Average NCO sends us a link to that newspaper’s correction today;

That information now appears to be inaccurate. Information obtained through a Freedom of Information Act Request through the National Archives show that Cordoba did serve honorably in Vietnam – earning a National Defense Service Medal, a Combat Infantryman Badge, a Vietnam Service Medal, a Vietnam Gallantry Cross w/Palm, a Vietnam Campaign Medal, 2 Overseas Bars and a Sharpshooter certification with the M14 Rifle.

It shows no awarding of a Purple Heart, Bronze Star or Silver Star, or shows a designation as either an Army Special Forces Soldier (Green Beret) or a Prisoner of War.

So how easy it is to get the information, journalists? Only it’s much more painless if you get the proof BEFORE you publish.

Category: Media, Phony soldiers

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Beretverde

May he burn in he’ll. RIP Nick… Never forgotten!

CI Roller Dude

What’s wrong with being proud of what he was awarded? A CIB is something special in my book and I always treated those who had one as special.

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JEFF C

First off…you all are quick to bash ANY veteran of any war, and call yourselves AMERICANS??
I know FIRST hand that the man went through hell, cause when he came back from the war he was disrespected and mentally screwed. Thank GOD he is strong and fought to not be in the streets and did not be a statistic. I do not believe that his POW card is faked since I have seen it first hand as well as his purple heart, that I know his father, may he rest in peace had. As for his division, I HAVE SEEN HIS MILITARY RING, that he has owned since being discharged. GET ALL YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT……cause I AM PROUD TO CALL THIS MAN MY FATHER!!! He is a VET of an uncalled for war. and the “Cabana Boy’ comment, funny thing is you non cultured, ignorant folks, love our latin countries and women, and food BUT hate when a person that has a last name that is not “Smith” serve our country and did some good in that HELLISH war, your all quick to disrespect and put down! He IS A VIETNAM VET!!! PERIOD!!! ungrateful people, who probably never had the testicular fortitude to even be part of a game of “laser tag”. And if the name reminds you of a cabana boy, it your wives that want us to be the real man they dont have at home.

NHSparky

Jeffey, you sound a bit butthurt, my boy. Are you angry because you had this shitstain going deep in the tourney and he got buried by Camacho?

He fucked himself over with his lies. Not us. Not you. And FWIW, there’s no such thing as a “POW Card”. Not even a little bit.

Finally, do be so kind as to stick around here a bit–you’ll find that virtually ALL of the regular posters here are combat veterans, some with multiple tours under their belts. FYI, youngster.

k1dw0nd3r

and NHSparky for the win!

Green Thumb

@6.

Suck my nuts.

Turd.

Ex-PH2

@6 — Not named Smith? Oh, really?

How about Rzezckowksi? Or Morris? Or Gordo? Or Vasquez? Or Gutierrez? Or Guzman? All Marines, all served in Vietnam. I knew all of them.

Gunny Guzman was one of my “A” school instructors. He was a REAL POW in a Japanese POW camp during WWII. He used to walk around the building yelling ‘Honk! Honk! Clear the bridge! Dive! Dive!” I asked him why he did that. He told me that if the Japs thought you were crazy, they’d leave you alone.

You wanna go over that POW crap again?

Kilo

So because people on this site call out fakes and crack wise were all racist pussies? I like the logic here. Provide the documentation that proves his claims and an apology will surely be issued. Until then, I’m not sure what qualifies you to attack people as Americans. Especially those that have served honorably and do so without stealing valor. Instances like this besmirch the reputation of the veteran community.

Hondo

JEFF C: he is indeed a Vietnam vet. He’s also apparently a liar, since his records show him to have never received the SS, PH, or BSM and never to have been a POW. The official DoD list of Vietnam POWs shows no one with the last name “CORDOBA” was ever a POW in Vietnam.

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/vietnam/reports/documents/pmsea_acc_p_name.pdf

I don’t know what drove him to mislead others, including his own family, about his wartime service. You’ll have to ask him that question. But the facts certainly point to him having done exactly that.

JEFF C

To all you who like to use the name calling to make yourself feel better knock yourselves out. Butt hurt not at all, cause the INSANE shit you ALL pulled in that BULLSHIT “war” is insane! The MAJORITY of you VIETNAM vets are SICK and TWISTED….meaning, how many women and children did you RAPE and KILL for fun……..that war was not to “protect america” that was all about MONEY! So get off your high horses and do something more constructive like, beat your wives, molest little kids and be homeless and addicts to some sort of substance. I by NO means am “butt hurt”, I know what kind of man my father is and this is not about him and the truth, this about some of you low lives doing the name calling…does that make you a better military man? Chances are those who call names and talk like your important, are not in this life worth ANYTHING!!! By the way the Vietnam War……NO ONE GIVES A DAMN ABOUT!!!! Hondo, I respect how your putting it, Kilo also much respect and appreciation on how its delivered. I am not saying all on this site are the malicious persons I claim them to be. BUT the majority of you probably came back totally screwed one way or another. The others who battled with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome and are stil battling MY RESPECT AND BEST WISHES….for those of you who use it as an excuse to be the pieces of shit that you are…….LOOK IN THE MIRROR…all you have to hang on is a war that has been looked down on in the history of the US. WWI, WWII those were wars to defend our freedom. Again for the ignorant persons out there, I am not getting on the VETS at all ! I am speaking about the IGNORANCE of the few that ruin it for all. IF my father is a LIAR then I shall get the facts. For those who like to cast the first stone and believe they have access to all the info in the world then,… Read more »

JEFF C

THIS MESSAGE IS DIRECTED MORE TOWARDS THE “COMBAT VETS” WHO TALK DOWN ABOUT SOMEONE THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! Not towards all VETS! SO NH…….here’s this youngster telling you the real truth now swallow that and PROVE ME WRONG about my vison of Vietnam Vets….My father was in Combat as well, so how can you talk about someone who would’ve, like everyone in that “WAR”, would of died for you??? STUPID? I THINK SO!!!!!

JEFF C

READ:
THIS MESSAGE IS DIRECTED MORE TOWARDS THE “COMBAT VETS” WHO TALK DOWN ABOUT SOMEONE THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT! Not towards all VETS! SO NH…….here’s this youngster telling you the real truth now swallow that and PROVE ME WRONG about my vison of Vietnam Vets….My father was in Combat as well, so how can you talk about someone who would’ve, like everyone in that “WAR”, would of died for you??? STUPID? I THINK SO!!!!!

NHSparky

Well, Scooter, lemme set the record straight:

–I am a member of the VFW.
–No, I am NOT a Vietnam veteran, nor am I a veteran of Desert Shield/Storm, nor of Iraq or Afghanistan.
–As a bubblehead, there are certain criteria that can be met in “peacetime” such as Navy Expeditionary Medal, SSBN Deterrent Patrol (of which I have both) or others to satisfy requirements for membership in the VFW.
–Although I am a Life Member of that organization, I would never, EVER claim awards I had not earned.

What am I “talking down” to, you might then ask? Simple–people who claim shit they never earned, never deserved, and were never awarded.

Joe Williams

Jeff C. shut your lying mouth. You do not know what you are claiming about the RVN. I was there from June of 66 till Sept. 68 and I would know of these war crimes.You must be confusing the actions of the VC and NVA as those of the US military. Your Dad has claimed medals and honors he was not awarded. So shut the Fuck Up and live with it. Joe

JEFF C

Your IGNORANT RANTS and BLINDNESS to what happened in Vietnam is ABSURD!!! So your telling me that I am lying, that in the Vietnam war there were no rapes? Murders? or better yet fatherless kids? Cause the advantage some of our “Vets” took on those people is all false? Like it is not happening in Afghanistan? Or anywhere else our troops are at. Dont be blind , just cause you personally didnt see anything, didnt mean it did happen…..ALOT! Look at how many troops TODAY are getting arrested for war crimes. And I am to believe that IT NEVER HAPPEND? Your a joke and to be blinded means you live your life in darkness. Hey Joe, your defense is bringing my dad into this? He is not the point anymore, I dont care about medals or awards. All I know is my dad survived a STUPID ASS war and he is alive. As I am glad that all of you have survived. BUT to be such judgmental about awards and crap…WHO CARES?? Realistically when you Vietnam Vets including my father are all DEAD your medals mean NOTHING!!!!! YOU ALL FOUGHT FOR NOTHING!!! Was not for my freedom and you got your ASSES handed to you by a 3rd World country!!!! It was a money making war and you all were the PAWNS! So spew all the acronyms you want and abbreviations, cause 6 out of 10 of you have no College education, probably not even High school, but think what you want I respect the men and women in the military who truly believe in PROTECTING our country and PROTECTING the people in the countries we are sent to HELP. I am not here for a pissing match, I know you are all use to that, since this is all your little “soap box” to “call people out”. MOVE ON ALL OF YOU ……you claim this war was HELL and it was a nightmare…..yet you all HANG ON and relive the “pain” to prove a point…..what that point is…..only your pathetic little souls know. GET HELP AT THE VA AND… Read more »

PintoNag

(Here’s another case of too much medication…or not enough.)

Ex-PH2

None at all, PN. None at all.

Hondo

No, Jeff C – you know what you’ve read and heard. You weren’t there, so you don’t personally know what happened. And it sounds like you’ve overdosed on the the leftist Kool-Aid rather than doing actual research.

You’re entitled to your opinion, as stupid and wrong as it is. But that’s all you’re entitled to. Others need not share your opinion. Here, no one does. Get over it.

And, for the record: nothing in your rants above is relevant to the actual subject at hand here. That issue is the fact that your father is a contemptible liar, who claimed decorations and honors he never received – and who got caught and exposed as the lying bastard he is. No amount of non sequitur BS on your part affects that fact one damn bit.

I’m sorry your father turned out to be a lying bastard. But the fault for that is his – and his alone. Accept that fact and get on with your life.

But do us a favor first. For maligning Vietnam Vets as a group in your posts above, inferring that the majority were rapists and murderers: please go fornicate yourself with a 3-foot-long ocotillo stalk. Preferably rectally.

Nik

“Hey Joe, your defense is bringing my dad into this? He is not the point anymore, I dont care about medals or awards.”

Actually, yes he is the point. Maybe you missed the newsflash, but this little corner of the web is devoted to outing people who are claiming undeserved glory.

For someone stating that others need to move on, you seem to be fixated on returning. Take your own advice. Move the fuck on.

Ex-PH2

Here’s the deal: It’s as easy as scratching yourself to get a complete listing of all the POWs held by the NVA in camps and at the Hanoi Hilton.

When someone says he was a POW in Vietnam, held by the VC, he should have documentation to prove it.

A former POW is allowed to put a POW plate on his car in states that issue them. The Dept. of Veterans’ Affairs has an office specifically dedicated to assisting former POWs and their families with benefits and health care services. A law was passed by Congress in 1981, providing for this service.

And since, as Hondo has already shown us, there is no one by the name of Cordoba listed as a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, this is hogwash. If Jeff’s old man claimed he was a POW when he was not, and has been getting benefits, he’s made a fraudulent claim, which can, and should be, investigated by the DVA.

So, Jeff, you incredible moron, shut your piehole. Your old man has been lying his ass off to you.

Jeff C.

First off the Kool Aid I’ve drank is REALITY and yes this is for outing “liars”…..great “BROTHERS IN ARMS” you guys are all liars in one way or another denying what you actually did in that horrible war. If the only INTELLIGENT things you can say are “go fuck yourself” or “shut your pie hole” , then your vocabulary is as vast as your intelligence. You all need to get over a war you were SUCKERED into going into. What happend? Captain of the football team was too stupid to get into college? Oh wait you guys sucked that bad at life you, figured the best way to TRY to redeem yourselves at life was the military?? GREAT DECISION!!! Again great intelligence…..as for my dad you call him a LIAR yet you all claim to be war heros, and my dad is a liar….SO WHAT….the war is OVER GET A LIFE! You hang on to a war that is a STAIN on the history of the American military. And lies or not……I GUESS MY DAD KILLED ONE OF YOU “SOLDIERS” and stole that Purple Heart…hahaha. i dont care cause this topic doesn’t change the fact that even with all your “outing” of my father, he is and will be a better human then more then half of you. So sit in your trailer, have your flashbacks and beat your wives and kids, go to an Asian country and rape little boys and girls, cause that all you all know how to do. Again, this is geared towards those on this board, NOT ALL WHO SERVED! Call my dad what you want proof or not, you dont know who or what my dad stands for, no one cares about medals, and your opinions mean NOTHING in the end. I am sure the kids you all have are SO proud of the dad that has never been around cause “life after the war was hard”…..what a pathetic excuse. And as for me being a “leftist” wow my friend anyone who has anything negative to say about this war is a “leftist”….that is… Read more »

NHSparky

Word of advice, Jeffey–up the voltage.

NHSparky

And Jeffey, when most people talk about a “6 figure job”, they don’t include the numbers on the other side of the decimal point.

Just a little FYI. Oh, and most of us here weren’t old enough for Vietnam. See my comment above, then go back to 4chan and fap yourself blind to lolicon or whatever it is you do when you’re not popping zits in your mom’s mirror.

Ex-PH2

Well, Jeffy, since I’m in the Vietnam generation, I can say that the in country vets I’ve known don’t hold discussion groups, don’t give lectures and generally still don’t want to discuss what they went through over there. They tend to clam up and say simply that they were there.

Jeff C.

ok i will grace this disgrace one last time……first off NEVER said or requested you shut down the forum……..and second I am ALOT older then you think. My face thank god has no pimples , my face is very clear , and fyi 155,000 a year smart ass…after taxes. I am probably your age as well and not the Vietnam generation. If my dad is a “douche nozzle” thats fine…..I can live with that, and ill get over it. Something you know nothing about since your on this forum 24/7. I am sure you get paid to sit on your ass and do NOTHING…i guess thats what you education took you too? And also if you speak to a vietnam vet who is not adjusted and still screwed in the head, yes they clam up and shut down. For those who actually got the help and CAN talk about it they actually have lectures and discussions. But I guess you wouldn’t know that since the only time you have came close to college is to look for the next rape victim….hahaha. Step out of your world little minded people, cause the world is bigger then your little world. i have to actually work now…..so good bye lonely losers……I AM OUT and I am done arguing with ignorant redneck, uneducated, uninformed people. Now, you can all reply with the ignorant, curse ladend, replies you only know how to reply with……..Get an education and then maybe you’ll be worth my time. The only retorts are full of cursing……SO TYPICAL MILITARY!!! I am done and out, so waste your time and energy talking about someone who doesn’t really care about your opinions….cause they are worthless as all of you combined…….so enjoy and talk all the mess you want……i enjoy getting dumb ass people like you all pissed and riled up , just so I know you’ll be talking about me….good or bad…HAHAHAHA I WIN…..DUMB ASSES!!!! insult and putdown….I love it cause when you die NO ONE WILL CARE…..later losers……HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Hondo

Jeff C: I’ve got a BS and two masters’ degress, asshole – one in a technical field, and one in a non-technical field. And I’m hardly alone here in terms of similar academic accomplishments. So take that “stupid” crap and put it where the sun don’t shine, fool – preferably after wrapping it around a 3-foot long ocotillo stalk. If you even know what that is, dimwit.

I’ve also got a low tolerance for self-righteous fools who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground. IMO, that characterizes you perfectly.

Again: your father is a lying, low-life bastard. He lied to you about many things, including Vietnam. Sorry if reality is harsh in that regard. Deal with it.

Oh, and Jeff? It’s customary to quote your income in US dollars, not Hong Kong. 155,000 Hong Kong dollars after taxes isn’t exactly impressive.

JAGC

He enjoys getting people all riled up, yet he’s the one spewing incoherent rhetoric in some sort of misguided and misdirected defense of his father, whose legacy will be one marred by fraud and lies. And why people assume veterans or active duty people are uneducated is beyond me, particularly one who writes and argues with the demeanor of a crack-addicted toddler. But thanks Jeff for dredging this stolen valor liar back up as I had forgotten about his malfeasance.

Old Trooper

@30: I have a PHD (Pimpin Ho Degree) 😛

Ex-PH2

Well, he snarls, spits, slobbers, says he’s going away and then comes right back with more illiterate ravenings.

I doubt the subject of this column (Cordoba) actually has any kind of genetic relationship to the resident clown JeffC, and I’ll speculate that he/she/it is either a 14-year-old high school clanker, or the offspring of insipid and Witlessgelding.

Hey, ketsu manko! Kono hanakuso tte teme no kachan ni nitene?

Virtual Insanity

“…the only time you have came close to college is to look for the next rape victim….hahaha….”

Except for the BA. And the MS. And my time as an adjunct professor.

“Have came?” Really?

Illiterate doofus.

Jeff C.

one typo and I am illiterate??? come one people get a grip. and like I said THE MAJORITY (who is illiterate now) non high school graduates or college educated. and fyi being that I am american $155,000 AMERICAN DOLLARS….in HONG KONG ? Is not the currency there called a YEN??….Well Kids this has been fun….and NO not a high schooler, And I am glad SOME of you can prove me wrong with the education portion, as for the war crimes….HMMM?? And for all that education all I’ve read are ignorant and vulgar comments towards me……FUNNY. Also one last note MY FATHERS LEGACY IS NOT BASED ON A STUPID WAR OR MEDALS…..ITS BASED ON THE GREAT FATHER AND MAN HE IS NOW……I DONT CARE ABOUT IF HE LIED ABOUT MEDALS. REALLY…..SO WHAT HE LIED AND I WILL PERSONALLY ASK HIM TO RETRACT THOSE STATEMENTS AND STORIES. But that didn’t or does not make him the MAN or Father he is!!! ….again you guys pulled me in ..hahaha…..If you think that war makes you the man you are now then go back to the VA and talk to your therapist. I AM OUT!!!!!

Jeff C.

BYE BYE ENJOY IT

NHSparky

one typo and I am illiterate???

I count at least four grammatical errors in that sentence, m’boy. I’d count the rest, but the Cray would overload as a result of the attempt.

You also demonstrate a pathetic lack of world currencies. Yes, the Hong Kong unit of currency is the Hong Kong (HKD.) Last time I was there, it was about $7.5-8 HKD to $1 USD. Japan uses the Yen, which varied anywhere between 90-140 yen per USD.

So yeah, I’m gonna say that it’s highly unlikely you have the mental acumen or physical constitution to rate anywhere near a six-figure salary with such atrocious communication skills, to say nothing of you utter lack of “soft-skills”.

It’s painfully clear that your perception is based not in reality, but a fantasy, and a meme of what you WANT to believe rather than what really existed. When I lived in California (Orange County, only a few hours drive from your home near the Bay Area) I lived near an area called “Little Saigon” in the Garden Grove area. Many of my neighbors were Vietnamese. While they are very private people as a whole, they are also very warm and gracious once you make their acquaintance. The stories the older Vietnamese told me (those who were there when the war was going on) would make your hair curl about the atrocities of the VC/NVA, and later of the communist government there after the war. So no, not buying your histrionic line of crap.

Oh, and your dad is still a lying phony-assed jackwagon.

Virtual Insanity

Bet he comes back.

NHSparky

That’s like saying you’ll bet the sun is going to rise in the east tomorrow morning. Moth to a flame, shit like that.

Virtual Insanity

At least he admitted his dad lied in that last post.

His perception of vietnam vets is interesting (and sadly warped), and i think far too colored by media and Rambo movies. I was trained and mentored by vietnam vets, and raised by one. Just don’t see what Jeff sees as the norm.

Green Thumb

Jeff C. is without a doubt a certified fool.

Virtual Insanity

He’s fascinating, really. Through his posts, we see he despises Vietnam vets, but his father was a Vietnam vet and a great father…whom he admits now lied to the family for years about his exploits in Vetnam.

We also see that he is apparently very proud of his education, yet his written English skills are so poor I would have quickly given a paper of such scattered thought processes and grammar a failing grade. Yet, WE are “ignorant redneck, uneducated, uninformed people….”

When I posted the barest bones of my CV he obfuscated and did not reply in kind.

So, Jeff, per your request many of us have earned an education. Are we now worth your time?

Ex-PH2

Re: JeffyC — I didn’t check the rates today so I’ll use Sparky’s $7.50/$1.00 rate, which makes his $155,000 HKD paycheck about $20,667 USD. Hardly six figures.

I’m sticking with the adolescent trying to get away with pretending he’s something/somene he’s not. His functional illiteracy actually makes insipid look smart.

Oh, yeah, and I put myself through a 4-year BA program in 3 years on the GI Bill, taking extra hours and going to summer school. Made the Dean’s list with a 3.5 to 3.75 average each semester. Now I’m retired and doing my own thing.

I don’t think this twaddle-spouting whatsis has a clue, nor do I believe he’s Cordoba’s offspring.

Joe Williams

Oka jeffie I Came back with a disabled Vet with PTSD. I was a crew chief on helos. I flew all that armpit, picking up KIAs,WIAs ofVietanamse,Marines , VC, NVAs and Koreans. Anybody that called for a Med-Evac.What is your source for these alledged war crimes?”Stolen Valor, many were awarded the medals your Father claimed after their death. Do you begin to get a small idea of how we feel about claiming medals 2nd highest and other high valor medals. I was told several times I had written up for high awards. I recieved no orders awardind me the medals so I do not them. This is called Honor. Joe

Hondo

NHSparky: $1US is approx 7.75HKD today, so the exchange rate is roughly the same as when you visited.

And cut poor, immature Jeffy-boy some slack. After all, it’s hard finding out someone you care about is a low-life lying bastard who steals one of the most precious commodities in the world – honor – from others to make himself look good.

. . .

OK, that’s enough slack. Hey, Jeff C: in your case, it looks like the apple didn’t fall too far from the tree – you’re as much of a dipstick as your father. Pull your head out of your ass, start dealing with reality, and start acting like a man vice a petulant child.

And for Pete’s sake, learn how to write in standard English instead of some semi-literate rant dialect. I can almost see the drool on your keyboard when you comment here.

NHSparky

Wow…remind me never to type up posts in bed while I’m trying to watch television.

Now this has me on a kick to remember all the currencies and exchange rates for the countries I visited both while I was in and after I left the Navy. I’ve got a 32-oz travel mug literally filled with coins and small bills from across a good chunk of the world. Doubt much of it is worth anything, especially since I don’t think there’s a bank anywhere around that will exchange them for less than a 30 percent commission, but whatevs.

Just an Old Dog

Jeff, Hong Kong uses Hong Kong Dollars, not Yen. I am beginning to think you aren’t even this guys son, merely a tool using this forum to insult your betters. This would be a first, someone posing as the child of a poser.

Donald Everson

Dear Jeff.
Time for your Prozac.Nurse Rachett has your meds it the window. Not going to sit here rebutting everything you said other then to say you have read to much propaganda and war comics. I was there 66-67 Didn’t come home with chest full of ribbons or claims. Matter of fact the majority of us won’t even talk about it much less enhance our stories.
I’ve viewed every douchbag on fakewarriors.org and the majority of these wannabe’s is newer generation. Some almost falling over forward from the weight of their medals of everything from the MOH to the I saved the world from aliens ribbon (probably made at home). I enlisted in the USMC and didn’t run off to canada ti hide. And did what i had to do because my country asked me to. Don’t need ribbons for the pride that gives you in it’s self.

JWB-Swimmer

Man…the sad thing is Cordoba didn’t have to lie at all. He was there! He earned a CIB! Most Army guys I know only cared about a couple of their awards/privileges…the CIB, Jump Wings, Combat Patch. A Ranger buddy of mine always said…”For those who know, this is all I need to wear…for those that don’t, who gives a fuck?”