Civil War Unknowns
From what he knew of his ancestor’s death, it seemed possible. Davis had read letters that said William — a color sergeant in the 2nd Wisconsin Infantry Regiment, part of the Union Army’s famed Iron Brigade — died after being taken by ambulance for treatment.
Unfortunately for Davis, he may never find out.
Davis said he finds the Army’s stance insulting.
“Don’t put someone in a box for eternity without their name if you have the ability to identify that person,” said Davis, 64, of Fort Myers, Florida.
Davis noted that the U.S. military has an entire department working to identify remains of service members, but the agency only investigates cases going back to World War II. He said he doesn’t understand why the military’s commitment comes with an apparent expiration date on older conflicts.
“There’s a covenant that exists between our country and our soldiers: If they’re lost, our country will try to find them, and if they’re found, our country will try to identify them,” Davis said. “When a soldier makes the ultimate sacrifice in battle for his country, when does the commitment to bring him home end?”
The 3rd Infantry Regiment, also known as the Old Guard, Caisson Platoon carry the remains of two unknown Civil War Union soldiers to their grave at Arlington National Cemetery in Arlington, Va., Thursday, Sept. 6, 2018. The soldiers were discovered at Manassas National Battlefield and will be buried in Section 81. Arlington National Cemetery opened the new section of gravesites with the burial. (Cliff Owen/AP)
This discovery was unusual, and accidental. Countless unidentified soldiers were buried where they fell during the Civil War. National Park Service policy is to leave their remains in place, considering battlefields to be hallowed ground.
The location corresponds with work done by surgeons in the battle’s aftermath, as the Union medical corps sent ambulances to collect the wounded and treat those left lying on the battlefield who could be saved, said Douglas Owsley, an anthropologist with the Smithsonian Institution who examined the remains.
Owsley said he does not dispute the Army’s contention that DNA testing would be unlikely to identify the two individuals, because there could be many potential candidates with plausible claims like those put forward by Davis, given the large number of casualties at Second Bull Run.
The Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency already has a $144 million budget and 600 staffers working to identify tens of thousands of remains, and typically identifies about 200 service members a year. Making an exception in Davis’ case could open the door to an even larger caseload by violating its firm rule against investigating pre-World War II conflicts.
Category: War Stories
My sister lived an old house at harpers Ferry West Virginia, it was one of the hospitals before and during the war. She was digging up the rose garden and found a large amount bones with saw marks from what must have been the amputation pit. The cellar had the old stone slab and sink still. Lots of spirts in house she was glade to move out.
Tens of thousands of unknown/MIA from both sides buried helter skelter from Maine all the way down and across to New Mexico. Roughly 80 million people alive today descended from CSA. Roughly 120+- million USA. Would be more if so many young unmarried men had not of been killed. No Soldier wants to end up unknown, and every descendant wants their loved one accounted for. We rejoice each Sunday when Hondo brings us his post. That being said, the Army is correct in this decision. The money spent to identify these men could be better spent on more recent finds, to bring some closure to folks that may have been alive when their loved one was lost. It’s sad, but that’s the way it is. I have had personal experience with the finding, returning, and internment of War Between The States remains and it is a very humbling and emotional experience. I have also worked with State, National Park, and National Monument folks on excavations for burying utilities. They are down right anal on making sure that the utmost respect and care is taken along the path of the excavation. Almost like an archeological dig. These two are lucky in that there will at least be a stone to mark their resting place, and that they will be in Arlington. If the limbs that were found at this site had of been of the Dan Sickles party, they would still be in a national medical museum somewhere. I had known that this re-interment was coming up, but did not know when it was to be done. One of the troops that Hondo had posted about, back in Sep, from Korea, was re-interred this past weekend in Columbus, GA. This was SFC James Silas Streetman, Co B 1st Bn 19th Inf Rgmt, 24th ID. He was rendered full honors and his flag presented to his sister. Had wanted to make that service but could not make it happen. Thanks for this post Ex.
You’re quite welcome, 5th/77th.
Do the DNA testing.
We owe it to them, their loved ones and their decendants.
I agree. This is a case of lost remains being discovered and re-interred for proper burial. DNA recovery is just not that difficult anymore. Every chance to identify these soldiers should be taken.
In no way should we be digging up graves for DNA testing though.
I have always believed military service to have a certain timelessness attached to it, something that transcends the gap that exists between those who served in one era and those who served in another. My family has no MIAs in it, so far as I know, yet I join with other Veterans when the bittersweet Sunday DPAA post appears. Americans who fell during any conflict that predates WW II deserve the same chance to be known, by name, and buried under a marker which bears that name. I am quite certain the task would be long, costly, and labor intensive and maybe it wouldn’t make sense. Still, if it can be done, it ought to be. It need not be an all-or-nothing proposition, but at least make the attempt.
I personally feel the same way Brother. As a member of The Camp of The Unknown Soldier (SCV) and affiliated with the SUVCW/SVR/GAR we have a vested interest in every unknown Soldier out there. We have worked for decades to get the grave sites marked and maintained. I personally have kin folk laying unmarked/unknown in Virginia, Alton Illinois, Camp Douglas Illinois, and San Antonio Texas. When these fellows were found, we pressed the Park Service to do what they could to identify descendants. Didn’t get far at all. Keep in mind that when they were first found who was the CINC. During bodaprez’s term we started having extreme difficulty getting the VA Veterans Headstones for any of the guys from that time frame. That has lightened up a little, but you would not believe the hoop jumping required. The article mentions “several” contacts to DNA compare these remains. The number of requests, from our info, was in the hundreds. Reportedly, the word came down from the “highest levels” to just re-inter in the new section of Arlington, and that was it. Happy with? No. Wish we could do something about it? Damn Skippy. Every warrior deserves a marked spot.
If Confederate dead are found, are they covered in the Stars and Bars, and Dixie played at their funeral?
Yes, I am serious
Roger that Chairborne. The services a very similar to your standard “with honors rendered” Military Funeral. The coffin will be covered with the appropriate Confederate Flag and possibly the State Flag of the period and Army that the Soldier was in; ie Army of Northern Virginia (ANV R.E. Lee’s Boys) Army of Tennessee (AOT J.E. Johnston/ J.B. Hood) Army of the Trans-Mississippi (Gen Stand Watie, last to Surrender) Music usually includes Dixie (A lively tune, not done as the Elvis Trilogy Version and a favorite of A. Lincoln) The Bonnie Blue Flag, Taps/Tattoo; Purloined from USA Gen Dan Butterfield, The Bag Pipes rendition of Amazing Grace and a number of prayers to a Deity known to be the preference of the departed or his descendants. I have been humbled and privileged to be a part of or in command of many a service for soldiers from every war that we have ever been involved in. Each is in it’s own way very emotional and memorable. I have had an affinity for Veterans Cemeteries since my childhood, don’t really know why. Have believed, on many occasions, that the only reason I survived this lifetime’s wars is because in every other lifetime I didn’t make it thru those wars. Honoring, marking, and maintaining Veteran’s Grave Sites is a life calling for us. It’s one of the things that brought me to this web site. I don’t golf, bowl, bar hop, or play on the Church softball team. Doing Memorial Services is one thing that keeps me from going all ‘splodey on idiots that disparage against my Country and my Brothers and Sister that wore the uniform and lived up to the oath that they took.
Thanks for the information 5th/77th.
My grandfather told me, when he was a boy in interwar UK; there was much contraversy over what to do with a mass grave full of Jacobite corpses from 1745. Some wanted full British military honours, some wanted the remains to return to their respective Clans, which is what happened.
I’ve got several ancestors who died in that war, and we have no idea where they were buried. But we see no need for DoD to spend monies doing DNA testing in the faint hope that one of them may be identified. As large as my family was/is, there are just too many additional markers to make an identification certain. If they wound up as unknowns in a cemetery, that’s ok. They are already known to their contemporary loved ones, and that’s good enough.