Norks back off threats to Guam

| August 15, 2017

Fox News reports that Kim Jong Un backed away from his threats to nuke Guam.

Kim Jong Un’s remarks came as he made his first public appearance in nearly two weeks, inspecting his army and examining missile plans, the official state media arm, KCNA, reported, according to Reuters. But the leader also tempered his recent fiery rhetoric, appearing to step back from the brink in an intensifying war of words between United States and North Korean leaders.

“He said that if the Yankees persist in their extremely dangerous reckless actions on the Korean peninsula and in its vicinity, testing the self-restraint of the DPRK, the latter will make an important decision as it already declared,” KCNA reported.

Defense Secretary James Mattis had threatened that in the event of a direct threat to the US it would be “game on”. His remark came after President Trump described the US response as “fire and fury”. The Chinese had also indicated they would not support the North Koreans if they initiated an attack.

The Associated Press reports that a THAAD missile defense system has been deployed to Guam since 2013 – I think that was before January 20th, 2017.

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David

He got what he wanted… rattled our cage and provoked a threat of nuclear war out of us. He gets some street cred among the anti-American folks he wants to impress, and learned a little more detail of when is ‘too much’, without crossing the ‘aw shit’ line. I suspect this worked out pretty much how he wanted it to.

Casey

I must disagree. I think Kim was surprised that Trump met him face to face (as it were) in the Street Theater Olympics. Basically Trump was saying “nigga, please.” Kim didn’t know how to respond to that, so he backed off while saving face.

A Proud Infidel®™

I wonder what the Kim-Cheese the tubby little SHIT will try next?

Sapper3307

Its gotta be hard being the only fat kid NorkLand.

FuzeVT

It’s refreshing to have a grown up in charge here who understands that the only thing people like the NORKS understand is force. “Guns end gun violence” is a universal truth and when the crying of baby Kim is meet with we will “#!&* you up” by the president and the SECDEF, he (and the other despots) will back down.

We’ve tried it the Left’s way of talk and talk and promises and concessions. That didn’t work. And exactly how long would we have to have that not work until the libs said “enough is enough, lets let some men to kick that guy’s ass”? I’m guessing never.

This is why you have to vote for grown ups (people who can see the need for the legitimate use of force) as opposed to Pajama Boys who think just “reasoning with them” one more time will do it. That’s “Dumb Diplomacy”.

Ex-PH2

Well, the Norks do get rice from the USA. They relabel it so it doesn’t say ‘USA’, but there are photos of it being relabeled somewhere online.

Don’t worry. This was a test. It was only a test. In a real emergency, your tornado siren will go off, telling you to head to the nearest bomb shelter, even if you never built one.

I’m just waiting to see what he comes up with next.

Casey

My guess is that there are back-channel negotiations going on (Trump is the premier deal-maker, no?) with the end result that North Korea gives up the nuke program for the promise of no attempts at regime change.

Your mileage may vary.

Commissar

The recent exchange of threats between the US and North Korea was not a win for the US or the President.

GDContractor

CNBC disagrees:

“After a weekend filled with a series of conciliatory statements from China, some of them downright surprising, the situation with North Korea seems to be less tense right now, which could be construed as a major win for the Trump team.

To be specific, the big move came Monday as China agreed to ban imports of North Korean iron, lead, and coal as part of new U.N. sanctions on Pyongyang. That’s hitting Kim Jon Un’s regime where it hurts.
But there was also the statement in the Chinese-run state newspaper Global Times on Friday that said that if North Korea attacks the U.S., China should remain neutral. In other words, they’d be on their own.”

Try again?

Fyrfighter

Hey GDC, don’t confuse the commissar with real facts…

A Proud Infidel®™

HEY Babbles McButthead, WTF about China’s statement to Kim-Cheese that he was going to be ON HIS OWN if he initiated any action whatsoever versus China’s promise to assist IF the United States initiated any action? Yeah, NK coal exports to China WERE a major source of income for tubby ‘lil’ Kim-Cheese’s regime but that is now cut off!

Commissar

And this last week, his publicly shaming McConnell, the North Korea threats, and his spineless response to Charlotte is going to be the historical pin on the calendar of when President Trump lost the future of his presidency.

He demonstrated that he can’t lead his party, can’t lead his nation internationally, and can’t lead his nation domestically all in the same week.

He is done. Just a matter of political negotiation and coordination between moderate republicans and democrats now.

Poetrooper

Let’s see, Lars, how many times does this make that you’ve said Trump is toast?

For you and so many other libs, Trump is like one of those bottom-weighted inflatable dolls that you can knock down but it bounces right back into your face.

That’s my image of you Lars…

11B-Mailclerk

Lacks the entertainment value of said item.

He is just jealous that Jonn would publish the works of a Photographers Mate, and not his stuff.

That’s gotta Bern.

Ex-PH2

He’s lucky that his 10-pages-long comments aren’t moderated. If he’s that boring and self-centered in comments, think what he must be like in person.

A Proud Infidel®™

He’s likely THAT GUY who everyone wants to hit in the face with a shovel five minutes after meeting him.

11B-mailclerk

Moderated? Commissar? No way.

Never interrupt an opponent when he is making a grievous mistake.

Ex-PH2

Like this old bounceback clown doll?

A Proud Infidel®™

THIS is MY Image of Lars T. aka Babbles McButthead:

Ex-PH2

He’s more like this guy, telling people to fire a mortar without establishing coordinates.

Poor SGT Hulka. He did eventually recover.

A Proud Infidel®™

SFC Hulka was a legit badass, Lars is just Babbles McButthead.

Ex-PH2

I was looking more at CPT Stillman’s imbecilic pomposity.

I think this was Warren Oates’ last movie before he passed away.

SFC D

I think he died during the filming of Blue Thunder

Ex-PH2

You could be right. I saw him in other productions, a 1981 production of Steinbeck’s ‘East of Eden’ being one.

11B-Mailclerk

Would any of that, perhaps, be considered “contemptuous words”?

Fyrfighter

11B, do you mean the kind of words that would get a military office in trouble with the UCMJ? I do believe you might be correct in that… maybe someone should forward those comments on the the appropriate command

11B-Mailclerk

I have known officers with very strong opinions, that bent over backwards to not cross that line. “Good of the Service”, “good of the Nation”, “maintain good order and discipline” etc.

One should expect more self control from someone who supposedly is an officer and a gentleman, right?

Ex-PH2

Oh, but WE are all peasants, fyrfighter, and thus we are dirt under whatshisname’s feet.

The Dead Man

Ferguson Riots, Baltimore Riots, Berkley Riots, Black Lives Matter hijacking LGBT parades, Black Lives Matter members torturing a literally mentally handicapped kid, literal hate crimes both instigated by members of BLM, inspired by BLM or directed by BLM, Benghazi, the lack of a response to chemical weapons used, kowtowing to the Iranians despite evidence pointing otherwise. Syrian involvement, Operation Fast and Furious, focusing on the Illegal Immigrants rather than on people who earned it like the terps in the ME. Stirring up the shit in the ME through shortsighted plans to appease morons.

You’re so wrapped up in your perfect example of a Dunning-Kruger Effect belief that you’re the smartest guy in the room that you routinely get flat mocked by the liberals on this site, let alone the conservatives.

Get out of your echo chamber you fuckwit.

The Dead Man

And the typo in there is what I get for editing shit on the fly rather. We gave shit to the Iranians despite the evidence of their malfeasance in the ME, in regards to their treaty and the evidence that the money would go to funding more death and misery.

SFC D

OK, I had to google “Dunning-Kruger Effect “. It fits Herr Commissar to a T.

Ex-PH2

I think Shakespeare described it nicely: “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” (As You Like It)
There are many, many overlaps of narcissistic personality disorder in Der Commissar, too, you know, including a desperate need to lump people who disagree with his notions into the ‘less that human beings’ group and his refusal to stop monopolizing the comments. He’s worse than a TV ‘send me yer cash’ preacher. Anyone besides me remember Little Jimmy Bakker and Tammy Fae?

David

She of the ski-slope makeup? 3″ of powder over a layer of hard pack?

OldManchu

You sound like Rachel Maddow leading up to the election.

desert

Hey Commie…WTF is wrong with you? You brainwashed pathetic excuse for an american..why don’t you get the hell out of America and go join the NWO or the illuminati, or the bilderbergers or the tri lateral….some shyt heap that has your same minimal i.q.?

Redacted1775

Oblunder would have paid him off. Well done Mr. President.

Commissar

Well done? North Korea backed off a threat that they made as a response to Trump’s threat?

If Trump has never made the threat (that he was in no position to follow through on) then we would be in the same place we are today. Except the tensions on the peninsula would not be as ramped up and we would not have lost international credibility.

David

you may have missed that they threatened us with nuclear attack to start off the whole thing. Try to keep up.

Redacted1775

He tends to miss quite a bit.

A Proud Infidel®™

HEY Babbles McButthead, let’s not forget that “Blowjob Willie” Clinton and HIS administration gave the Norkies a shit-ton of material and money saying they would NOT use it to make nuclear Weapons (REMEMBER he said they promised?. President Trump and his Administration stood their ground and DIDN’T give them a few boat loads of money like the previous administration did with Iran.

Fyrfighter

API, just to be clear, are you suggesting that there is a pattern of democrats administrations aiding and abetting hostile regimes, while claiming that their appeasement will lead to “peace in our time”?
As a side note, though not unrelated, I’m looking forward to the new series on AHC WWII confidential, the teaser that has Truman saying “I just don’t believe the Russians did this” is very interesting… I want to find out more, and see if that was willful collaboration, or just typical liberal naivete…

A Proud Infidel®™

“API, just to be clear, are you suggesting that there is a pattern of democrats administrations aiding and abetting hostile regimes, while claiming that their appeasement will lead to “peace in our time”?”

*UUUUHHHHMMM*, YEAH!!!

Fyrfighter

Ahhh… Ok, thanks for the clarification!…I just wanted to be sure there was no confusion, for certain folks that visit here who have a very low level of reading comprehension..

Mark RM1 USN. ret.

Lars, go fuck yourself cocksucker.

FatCircles0311

Killary would have already submitted unconditional surrender.

Bless be Trump and Mattis!

SFC D

She would’ve used the reset button

A Proud Infidel®™

YUH-MEAN like that damn thing did with Russia?

11B-mailclerk

Kim ran his mouth a bit too big, and lost a little face.

He is now digesting that the line is a bit closer to his feet than ours, versus with previous administrations.

Commissar

Nonsense.

This is not the first time North Korea has backed off a threat.

They do it all the time.

It is literally their international diplomatic strategy with the US.

Hell, North Korea has outright declared war and then backed off.

Ex-PH2

Fyrfighter

Yeah, they backed off when a US president stood up to them, in contrast to your hero bending over for them, and sending them and Iran pallets of cash…odd that.. I know your hatred of all things Trump clouds your judgement, and I harbor no hope that you will ever admit to being wrong, but just knowing that you are warms the cockles of my heart!

Commissar

My hate for Trump clouds my judgement?

False.

How are things better due to this recent exchange of threats?

Trump made a threat that if North Korea made a verbal threat he would retaliate with fire and fury.

North Korea responded with another verbal threat.

The Trump administration backed off their threat to retaliate.

North Korea backed off their threat to launch missiles into the waters near Guam.

However, now we are much closer to hostilities before Trump made his threat.

North Korea nuclear posture is in the exact same state, except they are even MORE unlikely than ever to stop pursuing nuclear weapons since having one capable of reaching the US is the ultimate deterrent.

So what has Trump accomplished.

Name one damn thing. Trying to claim North Korea backed off a threat that did not exist until Trump made his bombastic threat is not an accomplishment.

And it is false to claim it is an accomplishment that North Korea backed off their threat because they backed off the overwhelming majority of threats they have ever made.

All this whole exchange had done is undermined US credibility, destabilized markets, and further convinced North Korea that they need nuclear weapons.

Trying to spin this as a win for Trump or the US is complete nonsense.

Fyrfighter

Actually, it’s your reading of it regarding verbal vs. physical threat, that’s where your hatred is clouding, among other places. As for destabilizing markets, the DOW is currently down 9.6 points… not exactly a crash….

Ex-PH2

I’ll post the end-of-day numbers after the closing bell. That should shut that lying crap off.

Fyrfighter

Doubtful Ex, commissar never lets facts get in the way of doctrine

Ex-PH2

That’s just tough shit, ain’t it?

I expect to see more veiled threat from him. I hope he doesn’t disappoint.

Ex-PH2

Right now, the Dow is up nearly 10 points. Closing bell coming up soon.

Mick

Oh, c’mon now.

Being successful in the stock market is racist, unfair, demeaning to the ‘less fortunate’ (describing ne’er-do-wells as being ‘less fortunate’ is one of my favorite SJW howler monkey methods of obfuscation), and it flaunts ‘white privilege’.

We need ‘economic justice’.

Everyone knows that.

Ex-PH2

Smooches, Mick.

<3 <3 <3 <3

Mick

Why thank you, dahlin’…

Ex-PH2

I will always share the last piece of cheesecake with if the world ends tomorrow.

Ex-PH2

Here are the closing numbers for today, Aug. 15.

DJIA 21,998.99
+5.28 +0.02%

S&P 500 2,464.61
-1.23-0.05%

Nasdaq 6,333.01
-7.22 -0.11%

Gold RT 1,276.90
-13.50 -1.06%
Oil RT 47.71 +0.12 +0.25%

Basically, no real movement, just settled and calm.

A Proud Infidel®™

CAREFUL Ex-PH2, you’re throwing FACTS at him, that’s his Kryptonite!

Ex-PH2

Like, I care!!

Redacted1775

If you can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough. Or at all, considering the majority of your posts read like an emotional teenage girl’s diary entries.

Ex-PH2

The reality in this is that he IS an emotional teenage girl. In fact, he might be two of them all by his lonesome.

ChipNASA

Ex-PH2…OMG now I’M crying…because, *gasp* I’m laughing my ass off SO BAD I can’t even see straight.
BBBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HFS.

Ex-PH2

Glad to help, ChipNASA.

James O'D

No, your stupidity clouds your judgement.

Fyrfighter

James, you might want to clarify who exactly you were making that comment to. If it was to commissar, I totally understand, if it was to me or one of the other posters, I just have to assume you’re another of Lars’s sock puppets…

Poetrooper

Here’s one thing, Lars: The normal blustering and posturing by the Chinese has dropped to almost zilch. They are cutting off imports of raw materials such as coal and iron ore from the Norks which is gonna hit that little fat bastard right in the shorts.

And don’t come back at me that the Chinese are doing that in support of the UN resolution. Since when did the Chinese care jack-shit about UN resolutions? They’re doing it to support Trump.

Ex-PH2

The Chinese can buy iron ore from the US. For the 2013 production of iron ore, the mineral reserves as of December 31, 2013, for US Iron Ore operations stood at 836.9 million tons.
This pdf from USGS clearly shows US iron reserves, as well as worldwide reserves.
https://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/iron_ore/mcs-2017-feore.pdf

In addition. Australia was exporting coal to China, but that was replaced by US coal exports to China following Cyclone Debbie this year. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/04/after-cyclone-debbie-china-replaces-australian-coal-with-us-cargoes.html

These are not the only trades and imports going on with China.

The Chinese have no need whatsoever for imports from Norkiland. They only do that to keep that fat little basterd quiet. They have already stated publicly, last week, that if he becomes too unruly, they will abandon him to his fate. The do have a quarter million Chinese troops at the Nork/Chinese border, based on the inference that refugees from Norkiland will flow across that border like a tsunami, and they don’t want them.

A Proud Infidel®™

You know he’s been cutting up way too damned much when even the Chicoms say they’ve had enough and cut him off, we’ll see what kind of shit he tries to stir up next after he just got forced to lick the proverbial spoon!

desert

Phat boi was hoping for another pathetic, perverted pedophile like clinton…but didn’t get it…you said how are things better with Trump, tell oh he with shyt between the ears, HOW ARE THINGS WORSE?

11B-Mailclerk

They check to see where to find the line. It just moved closer, and it is definitely there.

Ex-PH2

It’s just another misdirection by ND:tBF to deflect our attention from what the Norks are really doing, which is prepping for an H-bomb test. They’re simply doing what used to be called “pull back, regroup, strike again”. A feint here, and tap there, and enough misdirection to make any pro magician grin, and before long, they won’t cry “Wolf” any more. They’ll throw the wolf while they think we aren’t looking.

The Trident II’s M-76 warhead US UGM-133 weighs about 370 pounds. The MK80 warhead weighs about 290 pounds. That’s what the little basterd is working on now – that weight and size, plus the distance. (Misspelling is intentional.)

All the bluster is a distraction, nothing else – lots of hot air and barking, kind of like some know-it-all who posts 10 to 15 pages of idiotic verbal diarrhea that could be compressed into a sentence.

A shrink could have a field day with that quackery.

David

“know-it-all who posts 10 to 15 pages” – OK, I’m stumped. NO ONE would be so much of an idiotic asshole as to do that….oh, wait.

Ex-PH2

Oh, you see that, too?!?

desert

Think “an armed drone” in the phat lil bastards living room!

timactual

We should have called the Norks bluff years ago. As the commercial says, “Pay me now or pay me later”.

Realpolitik vs. Wunschenpolitik.

Bill M

OK, who pressed the ‘Commissar Reset’ button? Just when he quiets down a little, somebody has to press that darn button and gets him started again. And how did he get hooked into Hillary’s ‘Reset’ button anyway?

A Proud Infidel®™

Methinks someone said the right word or phrase that conjured his presence like one does with a goblin, imp, or whatever else.

Poetrooper

You guys leave Lars alone. Those of us who post here know he can keep a comment string on something we wrote going longer thann anyone else possibly can do.

GDContractor

That, and discussions of EXPH2’s biskits

A Proud Infidel®™

Did someone mention biskits? Got GRAVY to go with ’em too?

Ex-PH2

Hey, my biskits have not yet reached a state of perfection! I do not make any claims about that sort of thing.

I just keep trying until I hit the mark. It’s all I can do.

desert

hit the mark? like a target? are they hard enough to toss? 😉

Ex-PH2

Desert, you could use them for skeet shooting if they’re two days old. I have to find out how to keep them from hardening before a week is up. Maybe more shortening in them….

desert

LOL..don’t ask me, I can’t boil water without burning the pan 😉