Orlando Sentinel; Vets find military records often embellished
The Orlando Sentinel writes about stolen valor, pinging the story about George Rosario they did the other day about the mayoral candidate who embellished his records during the campaign to include two Bronze Star Medals and a Purple Heart that he doesn’t have in his records;
The claims — which Rosario’s campaign manager blamed on “miscommunication” — were spotted recently by a retired Army veteran who spends his free time catching people he believes are guilty of so-called “stolen valor.”
Embellishing one’s military service is becoming more and more common nationwide, said Mike Vitale of Clermont, who met with Rosario about the misrepresentations, which have since been removed the candidate’s website.
They also quote some guy you might know;
Among those also keeping watch on bogus claims is Mark Seavey with the national office of the American Legion. Seavey exposes people daily for exaggerating their military service. He also works with a group called valorguardians.com, which lists hundreds of stolen valor cases on its website.
At The Legion, he breaks offenders into two categories: embellishers and those who never served.
Seavey, who left the Army as a sergeant after serving 11 years in the Army and the National Guard including deployments to Afghanistan and Bosnia, said during the Vietnam War it was much less likely for someone to falsely claim to be a soldier. That’s changed, he said.
“The general populous holds military service in much higher esteem now,” he said. “The American people, whether they support the wars or not, tend to support the warriors.”
We’ve filed for Rosario’s records, too, just to clear this whole thing up and I think it’s going to make Mr Rosario look a whole lot worse than it does already.
Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures
HOOAH !!!!!
Great plug-in for TAH
I thought TSO had been disgraced by the DRC? /s
While going through my MEB up at Lewis, a American Legion guy that was helping me with my PEBLO
And my fight to stay in the army… helped me see the light… that the good of my self and family was at stake… Holy Shit
How do you have a miscommunication of a purple heart you never earned?
Were you in a combat zone?
Did you get hit by enemy fire?
Were you officially awarded a purple heart?
There is nothing to miscommunicate…
It’s this kind of thing that makes me glad I’m retired and don’t have any reason to even mention the service any more.
This is from his web site, and I don’t see any personal awards; should there not be a Good Conduct Medal?
Rosario, 59, moved to Groveland in 2007 after a distinguished 21-year career with the United States Army. George’s military background includes numerous medals as follows: Army Service Ribbon/National Defense Service – MDL/Drivers & Mechanic Badge, Kuwait Liberation MDL/Rifle M16(SS) QUAL Bad/Army Reserve Components Achievement MDL(1st Awd 881206)/Southwest Asia Service Mdl9W/2BSS)//. He was honorably discharged in 2003.
He values honesty, integrity, responsibility, and community. George is also a member of several local organizations, including the Veterans of Foreign Wars, in which he served as District Judge Advocate, the Masonic Order, and the American Legion, where he serves as Judge Advocate.
Just WHAT IS “The Masonic Order”? Last I heard there was The Blue Lodge (Free & Accepted Masons), The Scottish Rite and the York Rite to name a few, I’ve never heard of it referred to as “The Masonic Order”.
AS TO his other claims, Here’s an excerpt from another article written about him:
“On the Purple Heart, the nation’s 10th-most prestigious award in Army service, Meyer said Rosario had “applied” for the award but expected to get it quickly, but the process is taking longer than he anticipated.
And that’s not the goofiest part.
Meyer went on to explain that Rosario had received a National Defense Service Medal signifying service in the Gulf War. The ribbon has two small bronze stars on it, which Rosario’s campaign manager said was the source of the mistaken reference to “Bronze Stars.”
Hahaha. These guys are utter buffoons.”
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/lake/os-lk-lauren-ritchie-rosario-purple-heart-20161020-column.html
This guy is good enough to work for Hillary.
“the National Defense Medal signifying service in the gulf war”? The National Defense medal has nothing to do with the Gulf war! I was in from 1959-1963, Vietnam era and got a National Defense medal,……no where near the gulf war!!
I got the NDSM for the Gulf War and I didn’t enlist until 1992 and was a Junior in High School
That’s because the Gulf War NDSM period didn’t end until Nov 1995.
To desert says:
First thank you for your service and welcome home, please take a look below.
The National Defense Service Medal is authorized for the following time periods:
War
From
To
Korean War June 27, 1950 July 27, 1954
Vietnam War January 1, 1961 August 14, 1974
Persian Gulf War August 2, 1990 November 30, 1995
Global War on Terrorism September 11, 2001 Present day
How does one ‘apply’ for a purple heart, I have always been under the assumption that you were awarded a purple heart through your command. I mean did he put in a 4187 for it?
Actually, the Purple Heart is the only personal decoration that is NOT awarded at the discretion of an individual’s chain-of-command. If an individual qualifies for the award by meeting the criteria, they are entitled to the decoration. See para 2-8.c. of AR 600-8-22.
After-the-fact applications are allowed and are sometimes approved by HRC (see para 2-8.j.(3) of AR 600-8-22). They must have documentation, including documentation of legally-required medical care after being wounded. And yes, this has IMO also been abused by some to get either “cheapie” PHs or to get PHs that are entirely bogus.
Now I know, Thanks Hondo!
If it hadn’t been denied for me not being wounded enough mine would have been a “cheapie” and I damn sure didn’t put in for it myself.
The Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal is the Army Reserve and National Guard equivalent of the Good Conduct Medal.
Club Manager: possibly not if he’s a career Reservist. First award of the AGCM is only authorized for periods of active duty of less than one year if the individual (a) dies in LOD, or (b) is discharged for physical disability occurring in LOD.
Therefore, if he wasn’t on active duty for at least 1 full year at any time during his career he’d not rate the GCM. Since his SWASM only has 2 service stars, it’s entirely possible he wasn’t on active duty for a full year during the Gulf War.
He apparently does have the ARCAM. As MSGT_RET noted, the ARCAM is effectively the Reserve Component (USAR and ARNG) equivalent of the GCM. He should have a number of them, actually, if he’s been in the SELRES (IMA or TPU assignments) for a large part of his career.
Prior to late Mar 1995, 4 consecutive years of service qualifying for retirement while in a SELRES position (TPU or IMA) were required for ARCAM eligibility. Since late Mar 1995, 3 consecutive years service has been required.
See Jonn’s original article ( http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=68497 ). The guy changed his webpage shortly before or just after the Orlando Sentinel busted him.
How is it a “miscommunication” to claim 2 Bronze Stars? I bet he just “mispoke” to someone and now “can’t recall” the conversation. I’m sure that he “never told anyone to lie for him and looks forward to clearing this up”. This is all “old business” anyways.
Some non-military person reading a record that states NDSM with 2 bronze stars could easily make that leap.
Incumbent upon the candidate to personally review anything in this arena BECAUSE it is a very sensitive area. But I don’t get why a list of basic awards is even relevant to a mayoral election??? Isn’t ‘veteran’ enough?
I have an NSDM with one bronze star, signifying the Gulf War (for which I earned the original medal) and the GWOT.
If this guy has two stars on his NSDM, would that not imply he also served in Viet Nam (as stated by Tito above). Is this guy old enough for that to be true?
Indeed correct, PtB.
He’s old enough – barely. The original Sentinel article said he was 59, which means he
turned 18was born in either late 1956 or sometime in 1957. If he joined and entered on active duty at age 17 before 15 August 1974, he’d rate the NDSM for the Vietnam Era.It’s theoretically possible, but I’d have to see proof to buy it being true.
NOTE: Corrected above.
think you need to recheck your math there, if he is 59 he was BORN around 66 – turning 18 a decade before that would be a pretty good trick.
and… lack of sleep strikes again… 16-60 is not 66… we both need a drink.
Corrected above. Should have typed “was born”, typed “turned 18” instead.
If he was born in 1956 or 1957, he would be 59 today if his birthday was on or before 25 Oct.
Corrected above. Should have typed “was born”, typed “turned 18” instead.
If he was born in 1956, he would be 59 today if his birthday was on or before 25 Oct – or if he was born in 1957 and his birthday was today or before. If he was born in 1956, his enlisting at 17 and serving on active duty prior to 15 Aug 1974 is possible.
There is nothing “so called” about Stolen Valor. You either earned the award, rank, etc… or you didn’t. My ex and my husband are both SF. That doesn’t make me one of the first women in The Green Beret’s.
MEP, PEBLO, TSO, DRC, TAH …
Way too many acronyms.
I need coffee.
…says the guy who calls himself MCPO NYC USN.
Ouch. Spew alert please.
Just wandering can he loose his benefits ?
I have a “silver oak leaf” cluster on my Air Reserve Forces Meritorious Service Medal. Does that mean I can tell people I am a Lieutenant Colonel?
I also had a “purple arm” when my PO3 crow got tacked on in 1990. That’s pretty close to a Purple Heart.