Senate Democrats write new gun control regulations
The Washington Post reports that Chuck Schumer and his gang of gun-grabbers are ready to introduce new regulations for gun sales in the Senate.
The three-part proposal…includes closing background check loopholes for Internet and gun show sales, expanding the background check database and cracking down on the illegal gun market, according to a letter to Senate colleagues obtained by The Washington Post.
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Democrats hope to expand background checks to include domestic abuse reports and prevent any gun purchases until a full background check is completed, according to the letter. The plan would also make it illegal for someone to buy a gun on behalf of someone else who is unable to buy a firearm legally.
Yeah, well, all of those things are already regulated. As I pointed out the other day, there’s a question about domestic abuse convictions on the ATF 4473 now. “Straw” purchases, the term used for buying weapons for others, is already illegal – well, unless you’re buying those weapons for Mexican cartels under the popular “Fast and Furious” program. There are virtually no loopholes in the private sales proponent, especially none that would impact crime. As I’ve said before, the FBI interviewed criminals who committed their crimes with guns and found that less than 1% of those guns were from those types of sales. More of their guns were stolen during burglaries or purchased in back alleys – that’s already illegal, too.
Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) has already proposed legislation that would encourage states to report more information about mentally ill individuals to the federal background check database.
Since mental health played a large role in the past several “mass shootings” that certainly makes more sense, however “more sense” isn’t something that we’ve come to expect from gun-grabbers like Schumer.
The real reason that Democrats would even waste their time with proposing legislation that already exists is to seed the law with universal gun registration measures. Gun registration doesn’t have any real purpose other than to tell the government where the guns are when they decide that the 2d Amendment doesn’t allow for private ownership. We’re about one Supreme Court justice away from that.
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The key part here is “prevent any gun purchases until a full background check is completed” which puts control in the hands of the feds.
All they would have to do to prevent you getting a gun is slow walk the paperwork and there wouldn’t be a damn thing anyone can do about it. Right now they have three days to get it done or the sale goes through. It puts pressure on the feds to do their job. Without that in place they can just take as long as they like.
What these dumb-asses simply do not recognize is that if there is any thing that will cause a second civil war in this country, screwing with the 2nd Amendment will be it.
If I recall correctly, when 4 Marines were killed by Abdulazeez, who was born in Kuwait and an Islamic nut case with a gun there wasnt any talk about new gun laws, except the one that keeps Marine recruiters unarmed.
This Administration is sending arms to Islamic organizations and at the same time disarming Marines at home.
Even I find it hard to keep things on the lighter side of life from time to time. For the life of me I can not understand their position, try as I may.
Simple, they really do hate America and what it stands for.
It is simple, the lowlife in the off white house is a stinking muslim, kissing his muslim buddies asses, he is trying to destroy America and open the door for the scum…what we need is a bounty established, would get rid of the scum and would boost the economy!
Anybody with half a brain knows that they didn’t just write that up. They had the bill already written and were just waiting on a tragedy to exploit before unveiling it. Kind of like how Feinstein whipped out her AWB after Sandy Hook before the bodies were even cold. The only thing that shocks me about this is that they waited this long to pull that bill out of their asses.
Read the fine print, I’m guessin’ it says anyone “arrested” for domestic assault, not convicted, will get his ass slapped on the NICS database.
I know when I was an LEO if we ran a criminal history in NCIC it would already report charges and either they would show an adjudication or simply have no disposition so that information may already be out there in certain instances.
Uh, oh… Fuck nut Chuck is thinking again… got to get his mug in front of a camera before the end of the week.
And his niece Amy (this week’s commedienne) is proselytizing at her shows and in all her appearances for such.
Wasn’t it awesome when actors and performers stayed the fuck out of politics for the most part?
Well. Sure.
Other than that. How was the play Mr President?
“The plan would also make it illegal for someone to buy a gun on behalf of someone else who is unable to buy a firearm legally.”
Um……hey, geniuses! That’s already illegal! It’s called a “straw purchase”, you fucking doorknobs!
Stupid motherf………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU MEAN LIKE what the Feds allowed to happen during “Fast & Furious” when FFL Dealers WERE calling the BATF and saying “YES, this is an obvious Straw Purchase!” only to be told to go ahead with the transaction? That happened more than once, and one of those firearms was used to murder USMC Vet and USBP Agent Brian Terry while libs like Das Hildebeast say “WHAT does it matter now?”. Liberals have repeatedly dropped the ball, and they just want to perpetually pass the buck.
A couple of thoughts.
1. With Harry Reid retirement announced. This is why all of a sudden they are trying this again. Hate Harry, but word on the street was he was the prime killer on the 2013 emotional response bill. The simple reason was that he didn’t want to lose more seats to the pro gun crowd as what happened in the 90s. Now he it out and the polling seems to say to the democratics that American population wants strong controls. That might be the same pollsters that told the GOP that Romney was going to win in a landslide in 2012.
2. I am betting that these proposals are just the previous 20 plus years of older ideas dusted off and designed to fail. Why? Because political smoke and mirrors sells better during an election year than honest efforts. If the bill fails, guess what all GOP or GOP aligned candidates down to street cleaners will be asked? Come on…..yep why don’t they care about the billions of Americans killed by gun violence annually (I know what the true rates are but watch there will be a multiplication of that rate by at least 1000 percent).
3. Finally, we will see more and more of local stories like the 11 year capping the 8 yr old with a shot gun over a puppy being pushed until this bill either passes or fails. All shootings go from local to national or international news. While other nations gun laws failures become background noise. All part of the PsyOps campaign.
The more you tighten you grip, Darth Vader, the more star systems slip through your fingers. – Princess Leia.
Now substitute SEN/REP (whoosiwhatsis) for Darth Vader, and votes for star systems, and you get the drift of that sentence.
Nickname . . upChuck Shoo-mer. Says it all.
Somebody please tell me how and why Amy Schumer’s drunk uncle is in charge of anything.
Anything that keeps the conversation going about this problem is a win.
How is proposing a bill that makes things illegal that are already illegal keeping the conversation going?
Clong, we used to merely THINK you’re an idiot, but now you come here and repeatedly prove it!
The problem being, Clong, libtards are dancing in the blood of innocents to further their agenda of disarming law abiding citizens, and robbing them of their Second Amendment Rights under the Constitution.
Well I don’t know about dancing but they are definitely taking advantage of the recent shootings. It’s no different then the conservatives pointing to them and saying “If only the teacher was armed…” Shootings give momentum to both sides.
Time and time again these meltdowns choose gun free zones for their murderous activities. Why the fuck do you suppose that is, Clong?
Clong NEVER fails to give maximum effort into being an IDIOT!!
Plenty of shootings happen when there are “good guys” with guns around.
“Plenty of shootings happen when there are “good guys” with guns around.”
And this applies to Gun Free Zones, how?
Can’t fix stupid, lost my patience with Truthers a long time ago. AW1Ed out.
The implication being that anyone can be a target regardless of where they are or how many weapons are around.
This is true but then how do you reconcile redundant laws that wont have an effect when your own statement says the number of weapons and location is irrelevent to making you less of a target?
Break the chains of intellectual bondage!
What did the cafeteria have/serve for lunch today?
Golly gee C. Long…drama sure does seem to follow you around. Keep talking.
You mean plenty of shootings are prevented at areas where there are guns around?
If that question was directed to C. Long, I am not C. Long. I am just an anonymous commenter, unlike C. Long.
If it was directed to me, I would say there is no way to know how many shootings are prevented at areas where there are guns around, or otherwise. The guys that decide not to shoot do not fill out a report as to their decision matrix.
I tell you what C.Long, you tell us what chat rooms you and your kind frequent and we will post bull shit there like you do here. Let us see how civilized you people are in their responses. I am sure you will even think how pleasant the responses you get here are. Maybe you will even have a real thought for the first time.
Last I knew, anything health-related was covered under HIPPA, which is a pain to get information from. Is that different now?
No. However, watch as the government violates that law and then turns to say “oh HIPAA we didn’t know that was a law” or some variety of that statement.
Even better is watch as it happens again and watch as the government says “with HIPAA in place we can’t do our job so we need to get rid of this for our children’s protection.”
Ask the VA their thoughts on that.
“As I pointed out the other day, there’s a question about domestic abuse convictions on the ATF 4473 now.”
He didn’t say that. He said “reported” not “convicted”. IE: piss off your girlfriend and lose your guns if she decides to get back at you.
Every angry ex in the country is salivating over this.
And the entire Dutch Rudder Club.
Which is one more reason this bill and any like it need to go down in flames.
Yep. Due process and “innocent until proven guilty” go right out the fucking window. The funny thing is; leftist/communist/piles of monkey nuts don’t see that as a problem, because they don’t think that losing due process and innocent until proven guilty will affect them at all, until it does. Then they will be squealing like a stuck pig.
Here in Washington state last year they passed a bill requiring all “transfers” to go through a background check, even if you let abuddy borrow it to try it out at a range or stored your weapons at a buddy’s house while you were out of town. Haven’t heard of anyone charged with a violation yet, but give them time.
That is because as the law is written there is no way for law enforcement to enforce it unless you are willing to violate your 5th amendment rights and tell folks that it has happened or you have CI’s at all the ranges to report on transfers that are happening without the paperwork. Now the range that I normally goes to has a few FFL’s as range masters. They also have transfer forms and for the cost of range time (about $5/hr) they are willing to complete the instant check and sign the form for a weapons transfer loan.
There was also no proviso written into the law that mandated the state keep a separate system to keep track of the incidental weapons transfers like at a range or even out hunting. Let alone the state was told by the head of the WSP that there was no form created and it would take months if not years of committee work to get a form approved and through the bureaucracy of the state. Still doesn’t matter since there is also no funding proviso in the law for who will do the record keeping and record maintenance on those forms when they are created. This from a state that is currently fining itself 100k a day for not funding education to a mandatory level as defined by the state supreme court.
Its all good though because we eliminated private sales and transfers. Except when we didn’t and gun violence dropped. Except when it didn’t.
For people who seem to be against guns in private hands, the Democrats sure do indirectly sell a lot of guns and ammo.
Obama alone is history’s greatest firearms salesman.
I don’t suppose any of you know the URL for this magical internet site where you can buy guns without background checks? Asking for a friend.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if the folks writing the legislation requiring background checks plan to give that duty to the folks who are currently doing the Keystone pipeline review.