Hickenlooper signs Colorado gun bill

| March 20, 2013

NBC reports that Governor Hickenlooper signed the Colorado scary gun bill today. How do you figure you’re not electing a major dick when his name is Hickenlooper, anyway? You know he got the snot kicked out of him every day in grade school so he’s dead set on using his office to get back at the bullies;

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper signed landmark new gun laws on Wednesday expanding background checks on gun purchases and limiting the size of ammunition magazines, placing the traditionally firearm-friendly state among the handful to pass new restrictions in the wake of the shooting in Newtown, Conn.

Anyway, Magpul Industries promised the other day on their Facebook page that it would take them about 30 days to produce their first magazine after they pulled up stakes and left Colorado;

We have said all along that based on the legal problems and uncertainties in the bill, as well as general principle, we will have no choice but to leave if the Governor signs this into law. We will start our transition out of the state almost immediately, and we will prioritize moving magazine manufacturing operations first. We expect the first PMAGs to be made outside CO within 30 days of the signing, with the rest to follow in phases. We will likely become a multi-state operation as a result of this move, and not all locations have been selected.

Colorado Republicans have promised to repeal the law once they kick out that guy with the funny name;

“We’re all in shock here,” state Senator Greg Brophy, a Republican, said on Wednesday. “It turns out this guy who everybody thought was a moderate Democrat is actually a gun-control governor.”

“I think the governor will be replaced by someone who has Colorado values instead of New York City values,” Brophy said. “If Republicans are returned to control we will repeal these bills immediately.”

There’s going to be a lot of that going around in the near future. That’s what happens when you pass laws without considering what the electorate has to say.

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USMCE8Ret

I suppose we should be angry, but I’m not so much since I don’t live in Colorado like Joey the rock-climber. While it could set a precedent, I don’t think other states will follow suit.

My suggestion to Joey is for him to visit a city like Detroit. It’s just a matter of time before his whole state will look that that city. Maybe he wants it that way, I dunno.

Stacy0311

maybe Colorado’s hoping to make up the lost revenue from increased Dorito and Twinkie (when they come back this summer) sales

Ex-PH2

I keep wondering if Joey the rockclimber carries a drysac with kitty litter in it, although I don’t think he’s actually a rock climber.

I think he’s too lazy for that.

Lucky

Let me get this straight, they legalized pot, and criminalizes guns…. Gotta let that sink in. I think either political change is coming for CO, or there will be a diaspora and it’ll become the statewide version of Detroit…

NHSparky

Master Sergeant–my mother still lives in Denver. Parts of that town DO look like Detroit.

NHSparky

Lucky–not a chance. Outside Boulder and Denver, and maybe a few other tourist/ex-pat (read: rich California hippies) towns, CO is not a place where you want to badmouth conservatives or family values.

Lucky

I know, I have an Aunt, Uncle, and older cousins there. The cousins are hopheads and drunkards, list causes all, and as 20 something’s, they are cheering about this shit on Facebook. As far as I am concerned, they shat where they ate, now they need to live in that filth.

Twist

@53, Didn’t he say he was in his 70s? I don’t know too many people of that age that are fit enough for rock climbing.

Lucky

Sparky, why the hell are they given a chance to vote then? IMHO, if you decide to get a marijuana card in CO, you should be forced to give up your vote and your drivers license and a few other things. Let there be a price to pay for dumbassery

Ex-PH2

Don’t know, don’t care. I just get tired of his drivel.

NHSparky

Unfortunately, Lucky, people have a right to be stupid, too. And far too many people exercise that right fully and often.

These dipshits don’t even realize when they’re voting against their own interests, selfish as they may be.

Lucky

I know I know, I just feel as though they should give up that right should they start partaking in the illegal narcotics

NHSparky

Were Obumbles not in the White House, this whole hippie lettuce issue would be a non-starter, considering the feds would curb stomp this shit faster than you could say, “Federal preemption.”

Lucky

Agreed. But it’s the whacky weed that the sheep lie smoke that got him elected twice.

Old Trooper

@39: Yeah, however, Joe hasn’t addressed my point that those small businesses, like my cousin has, are going to probably close up shop and move (she has lived in Colorado her whole life, 50+ years, which is probably longer than Joey, and she has put more into the economy of the state than Joey as well).

E6 type, 1ea

Joe,

The Arizona Trail is just as nice as the Colorado Trail. I put in vacation to bikepack the CT, but now I’m going to Arizona instead, because of this idiocy. Im sure it doesn’t bother you, though. If you’re not concerned about losing jobs, you’re probably not concerned about losing $1200 in tourism either.

USMCE8Ret

@NHSparky – Yeah, I was stationed out that way years ago (circa 1999-2002) and I remember Coloradian’s complaining about all the NY and CA transplants that were “ruining their state”. It didn’t take that long for their mindset to permeate the political mindset, I see. As for downtown Denver, I recall it falling apart then. We stayed away from areas like Colfax Street and others, and parts of Aurora (though I hear they cleaned it up a bit). It’s a shame, because it seemed like the state was on the ball when I lived there.

PintoNag

@67 That is what is spooky about all this. As history demonstrates, it IS possible to literally wake up on the wrong side of the wall.

kp32

http://www.coloradoaccountability.com/cms/node/9

Recall effort underway for Senator John ‘I just look like a child molestor’ Morse:

John Morse believes gun owners are a “sickness on our souls.”
“You should ignore them and do what [you] need to do,” he said when talking about listening to constituents to his fellow legislators. “The reality is, these folks don’t have a Second Amendment right to buy these guns,” he said when introducing his assault weapons liability bill.

Common Sense

The Californication process has been going on for a while here. We have far too many people from elsewhere who have migrated here over the past couple of decades, especially from California, and they now outnumber Coloradans 3 to 1.

There are far too many people who believed Hickenlooper’s good ol’ boy, aw shucks, moderate boy act. It also didn’t help that the CO GOP didn’t vet their candidate well enough and he inserted his foot in his mouth right before the election, claiming he worked undercover for the Kansas Bureau of Investigations, when they had never heard of him. It was too late to replace him and Hickenlooper won. Perhaps the next time around they can do better but I’m not holding my breath.

But people are PISSED that they were ignored during the hearings on these bills. Hickenlooper listened to the BS stats from the Golden chief of police and ignored almost every sheriff in the state including the 30 that testified.

The recall for Senate president John Morse has already started, more are in the works. Now that Hickenlooper has shown his true colors, re-election won’t be the walk in the park he was expecting.

USMCE8Ret

@70 – Why did Hickenlooper suck the Golden, CO Police Chief’s crank, and leave all the other LEO honchos twisting in the breeze?

Hondo

Twist: Joe indicated a few weeks ago he’s in his “7th decade”. That translates to “in his 60s” – not 70s. First decade is newborn to age 9; second, 10th birthday to age 19; and so on.

ItAllFades

So, every state that signs a bill like this brings back one of those dead kids right? That was the point of all of this, wasn’t it?

Common Sense

USMCE8Ret – who knows. Probably wanted an echo chamber rather than the facts. Golden is a Boulder wanna-be a few miles south. Nice place physically, but not politically.

Since none of these bills will make anyone any safer (less safe in fact), safety is not the agenda, government control over the people is the agenda. Hickenlooper went from sounding like a reasonable moderate right after the Aurora theater shootings to taking a page out of the Obama/Alinsky playbook today.

The whole thing just disgusts me.

To add to the ‘revenue Colorado will lose’ list, a lot of people will no longer buy firearms and supplies at gun shops here for fear of being added to a sudo-registry. Why take that chance when you can buy anything but handguns right across the border?

I do want to thank sheriffs John Cooke and Terry Maketa for working so hard to stand up for the citizens of the state. Every single sheriff in Colorado, 62 of them, signed a document against these gun bills, but they went far above and beyond for us.

kp32

Most people in Colorado are not natives, but John Morse is a native and Dickenlicker is from PA. I’ve heard the complaints about Californians for years, and it’s usually from an East Coast transplant.

H1

Wonder what goodies the WH dangled to get him to play along.
Sounds like some CO Sheriff’s will be getting the opposite treatment.
The second order effects will take a while to hit, if enough folks are vocal about why they are bypassing CO it will help ensure the message stays alive until the next election cycle.

Joe

Hey Twist, just to set the record straight, I’m in my 60’s and still plenty fit enough to climb 14’ers, ride a century with 6,000 ft of climbing in a little over 5 hours, hike, ride or XC ski all day and all night. Just sayin’.

I think a lot of you guys have a overblown sense of your political power. For each of you that threatens to boycott CO, there are three people who want to come here. And it’s not just about tourism 0 CO has a very diverse economy, and little cry baby Magpul is a drop in the bucket.

Twist

Ok, Joe, I was working from memory.

UpNorth

Joey, how many hunting outfitters does Colorado have? Are they typical of Lamicq Ranches? Let’s see, one 5 day hunt, October 12, 2013 unguided hunt for bear and elk, $1990. How well will they do if they get more cancellations than mine? Can they survive 5 cancellations? 10? 15? 20? Multiply that by all of the outfitters. And, that’s just hunters. Like others have said, there are hikers, climbers and just tourists who hate that you and dorks like Hickenlooper think they know better than anyone what’s best for everyone.
So, yeah, your state is gonna take one hell of a hit, of course, the libs will lie and tell everyone that everything is rosy, but eventually, the losses will show up.

malclave

@77
For each of you that threatens to boycott CO, there are three people who want to come here.

And they’ve been scared away by the thought of people with “high capacity” magazines?

If not, why would they all of a sudden start going there now? Unless the state tourism board is going to set up a program to attract tourists to sample your pot, maybe hoping that Taco Bell will get enough additional business to make up the difference in sales tax.

E-6 type, 1ea

“For each of you that threatens to boycott CO, there are three people who want to come here”

You understand that what you’re saying here is that your state just lost 25% of it’s tourism business, right?

Twist

UpNorth, it will somehow be the Republicans fault.

A Proud Infidel

Colorado has now joined Oregon and Washington as examples of what liberals do to a State once they’ve migrated and infected it. Let’s face it, they’ve rendered California FUBAR, so now they want to infect other places with their failed ideas and logic. God, how I pity the lifelong Coloradoans who have now seen the liberals take their State to pot!

Hondo

Well, at least this might help out some of my in-laws. They live in WY, have a ranch, and at times in the past made some coin from hunters.

Have to remember to ask them if they’re still doing that.

UpNorth

Twist, got it, it’s Bush’s fault.
@#83, eventually, Denver, Aurora and the other larger cities will take on the look and aura of Detroit, Camden, NJ and Stockton, Ca. The progs can’t see it, but it’s as inevitable as Detroit electing progressive mayors.

cannoncocker

Joe # 77,
Every time you or any politician says something retarded, gun owners buy 3 more High Capacity magazines and AR-15’s. So I guess that makes us even, huh?

Powerpoint Ranger

Joe,

If the political power of law-abiding gun owners who care about the Constitution is so overblown, how come so many of your beloved Democrats in the Senate didn’t have the balls to muster the 40th vote on their side for the Feinstein gun grab?

Common Sense

@75 – My family has been in Colorado since 1870, before it was a state. I was born in Japan when my Dad was in the Army. We came back when I was 18 months old and I’ve lived here ever since. I’ve watched the degradation of my state for decades.

USMCE8Ret – More on the sheriffs…

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/03/20/legal-challenge-already-planned-to-gun-control-laws/

“The governor refused to meet with them, the legislature ignored them so their claims now will be heard in federal court,” said Independence Institute spokesman Dave Kopel.

Kopel is a constitutional law expert at the Independence Institute. He said the sheriffs are filing a lawsuit to block the laws that they argue are unconstitutional.

1SG DB

Joe,

Believe what you will…but more of us with disposable income will not be spending it in Colorado or products from Colorado now, and I’ve seen enough of a groundswell on different forums to know that it may take a year but this decision will impact Colorado negatively.

I have travelled to Colorado several times, once just to see a concert at Red Rocks – no more.

Troll all you wish, but when everyone in Colorado is wondering why jobs and tax revenues are drying up, I’ll ask you to return to this thread to remember why.

Who is John Galt? Boycott Colorado

NHSparky

Hey, Joey–what’s next? Changing the name of Rifle, CO cause it’s a scary-sounding name for a town?

And yeah, people moved to CO because it was beautiful, free, and peaceful. No more.

When I next visit my mother, I’ll fly into Cheyenne, Farmington, SLC, or Albuquerque to deny you the tax revenues. I’ll buy just enough gas for my rental car I rented out-of-state (more taxes denied) and otherwise contribute the absolute minimum possible to the CO economy.

Ditto New York, Maryland, and Massachusetts, all of which I’ve been to in the last six months.

Suck it, bitches.

Old Trooper

@74: Yeah, my cousin’s business is a Sports store and a larger percentage of the business is firearms. She told me a few weeks ago that if this got signed, they would probably have to close up shop. That’s why I went after Joe and his stupid comments, because he’s not smart enough, even in his 60’s, to see that this will impact far more than Magpul and no one is going to be safer. I lived in CO for a few years, up in Ft. Collins and after my divorce, I was thinking of moving back out there, but a buddy of mine told me not to. He said, and I quote “you don’t want to come out here, now, because it’s all changed for the worse, since all the Kalifornians started moving in and screwing everything up”.

As for being able to hike, climb, and ski; it don’t mean shit, Joe, when some scumbag blows a hole through your guts to take your cool XC bike away from you.

USMCE8Ret

@88, et al. – Thanks. I’ve been behind the power curve lately and am brushing up on the nonsense thats breeding out West, and the Sheriff’s positions (which is good to hear in spite of what Coloradans are having to deal with now).

Seems like the political dumb-assery is spreading like a plague of locusts.

I remember when Colorado was considered a bastion of gun ownership, but that’s gone up in pot smoke.