Valor Database Launched

| July 25, 2012

Doug Sterner writes to tell us that DoD has launched their Valor database of award recipients. It looks like so far, they’ve only recorded the Medal of Honor recipients by service. Which sounds about right for government employees. Doug sends us his remarks to NBC;

This is indeed a step in the right direction, a small step but as they say, “A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” There is much more that can and should be done, and my hope is that DoD will continue to expand on it so that no military hero is ever forgotten.

I do appreciate that this is being offered as a database of REAL heroes, not as some have called it, a “Stolen Valor database.” This is evident both in the url (valor.defense.gov) and in the text and layout of the website itself. My calls for this database have always centered around the need to preserve the history of our true heroes. That such a database WILL make it harder for so-called “stolen valor” to be perpetuated is an ancilliary benefit. This is, as it should be, a website designed to remind our country that despite the many bogus heroes we see and hear about all to frequently, men and women of TRUE valor exist, and it is them we honor by efforts to preserve their service, deeds, and sacrifice.

I am further encouraged that the template for this already lays a platform for including the Silver Star. These number fewer than 1,000 awards since 9/11, and respresent some of our finest men and women in service, thus it is appropriate that in the initial stage of this effort the Silver Stars are included. The Military Times Database (www.militarytimes.com/hallofvalor) already has the names of all but one of the 79 recipients of the Medal of Honor and service crosses since 9/11. We also have all or nearly all Marine and Air Force recipients of the Silver Star. But we’ve only been able to identify about 70% of the reported 655 Army Silver Star recipients. So forward momentum by DoD to identify the remainder is most welcomed.

I do note that this, at present, seems to be simply a LIST of award recipients. It is my hope that DoD’s in-progress efforts include subsequently linking to the citation for each award. A list is important, but makes this less of a roster of recipients and more of a “stolen valor” cross-check reference. What these men and women have done, the details of their actions contained within their citations, if first and foremost American history. Further, such a database should be able to answer the question decades from now, “What did grandpa do to get the Silver Star in Iraq.” Any such effort is less about the men and women who did receive the awards, most are humble and self-effacing, and more about preserving history for future generations.

That ARE some serious caveats in terms of the scope of the database, particularly as it applies to valor. For instance, the Army reports 309 Distinguished Flying Crosses awarded since 9/11. The other services combined probably double that number. The Air Force, when awarding the DFC, awards it with a “V” device denoting valor, but is the only service that does so. An Army or Navy DFC may be awarded for “heroism while participating in aerial flight” but is not awarded with a “V.” Obviously most DFCs are valor awards, even without the “V” denoted. Similarly, the Soldier’s Medal, Airman’s Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Medal, and Coast Guard Medal are awarded for “heroism at the risk of life not involving conflict with an armed enemy.” These are low in precedence (above the Bronze Star but below the DFC), and are among the services’ rarest awards, far more rare than even the Silver Star. (Army HR reports a total of 148 Soldier’s Medals since 9/11.) These distinctive awards are not a combat valor award, but are among the most respected of all awards for heroism, often called the “non-combat Medal of Honor.” I would, at the least, hope plans are in process to include these awards in the near future.

DoD has thus far struggled to answer the question as to how far back and how low in precedence among the military awards to go. They have focused on awards since 9/11, which is good in that it first and foremost recognized the heroes of the current generation, upon whom the spotlight should rightly be focused. It is also good because the serious problems in record keeping is largely a post-1975 issue. The 1973 St. Louis fire often cited by DoD notwithstanding, it is far easier to compile and digitize data for pre-1975 awards than for those who served in Grenada, the Gulf War, Somalia, Pamama, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere since the end of the Vietnam War.

In fact, the Military Times Hall of Valor is currently at the least, 99% complete for ALL awards (including DFCs and the non-combat heroism awards) to ALL services from inception of our awards system until the beginning of World War II 1971. This part of the process has already been completed, save for the Citatation Stars what were later upgradable to the Silver Star. Of the estimated 15,000 to 20,000 of these awards, we have digitized and posted HALF, and I have in-hand the General Orders for an additional 30% or more of these awards. Having a complete database of EVERY U.S. Military Award from inception of our awards system to 1941 could be accomplished by four or five typists in a matter of weeks.

Obviously, WWII through Vietnam are a larger project, but the data exists to do this easily in three years with a well-trained data entry team at a cost of less than $10 million. That is less than the amount of VA fraud reported by Congressman Chaffetz in his hearing on the need for this database last February.

I applaud DoD for taking this first step. I only hope that they too, see this only as a first step in a long but important journey to preserving American history.

While I appreciate Doug’s optimism, I personally think it’s a piss-poor start for the government. If they had actually used all of the resources that the President mentioned that that they were using the other day, it seems they could have a lot more than this completed by now. And let’s see how long it takes for their next update.

Category: Stolen Valor Act

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CI Roller Dude

Now just wait and see what awards some officer gets for getting this done.

fm2176

The OIC will get an MSM and the NCOIC an ARCOM. The E-3 that did all the work may get a COA…

CI

This is the right thing to do, but I’m not getting bent out of shape yet, by starting incrementally.

Doing something right [especially when it comes to the Feds] takes time. As long as they don’t sit on their collective asses….

SIGO

FYI this only includes those since 9/11 so far.

mrnobody

This is absolutely the right thing to do and I do hope it is more than just a roster of names. However, my cynical nature leads me to believe that in a few years there will be another tourney. This one will involve dumbest reason for why the person’s medal is “classified”.

Joe

That’s nice and all, but they’re forgetting about the Coast Guard. Signalman Munro was awarded the MoH during WW2 and the Coast Guard certainly awards their own versions of some of the other planned medals.

WOTN

They’ve LISTED by service who has received the Medal of Honor, but don’t even post the citations!?!?! and they created a website(!?!?) in how many weeks?

This should have taken 1 19 year old Private (with a tech background) all of 4 hours, (with an NCO to supervise and an officer to approve it to be viewed by a General).

It doesn’t even have the Service Crosses listed yet, much less those citations. And it includes a disclaimer that it is incomplete and shouldn’t be used to verify someone claiming to have the award.

Yeah, it’s typical government employee “efficiency.” Given METT-T, this site should be working on the Silver Star database, having polished off the Service Cross citations. OR finishing off the Viet Nam to present MoH citations. Prioritize all living MoH recipients, Viet Nam to present MoH recipients, Service Cross (living), current conflict, Silver Star (living), current conflict, Silver Star (living), current conflict, and push into Bronze Star and ARCOM for Valor. Remove the disclaimer (it is counter to the mission of preventing Stolen Valor claims), and put an asterick in the place (alphabetical or chronological) of anyone that requests removal from the name, but no MoH recipient is missing from the current conflicts.

defendUSA

My son could have done a better job with this in 24 hours. Swear to God, everything is hurry up and wait and only give enough to shut people up. I nominate Doug Sterner!!! Hell, he has already outperformed whomever set that up. Thank you, Doug.

Yat Yas 1833

You’re sh1ttin’ me.

fm2176

I was about to post this yesterday but decided to get some work done. 🙂

The site looks like someone copied and pasted a few images around a Skill Level 1 Excel spreadsheet. I’ve seen better products produced by the technologically impaired SPC that works for me.

Sorry, but I clicked the link after my original post, and expected to see pictures of the recipients along with citations and maybe even bios. Not a spreadsheet.

Troy Harskjold

There will be issues of people not getting credit for awards that they actually did earn. That’s when it will become criminal when they are accused of posing and not being a poser. I addressed this a long time ago regarding combat awards http://www.stripes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor-for-tuesday-january-31-2006-1.45134 and the huge numbers of awards given out. We’ll just have to see.