Another crazed SF weapons expert (Update 2x)
Ordsoldier sends us a link from Fox News which declares that Timothy Jorden, Jr., a “former Army Special Forces weapons expert” is being sought for gun play at a Buffalo hospital;
Authorities identified the victim as 33-year-old Jacqueline Wisniewski, a receptionist at the hospital and the mother of a young son. Daniel Derenda, Buffalo police commissioner, said she was shot multiple times and believe the shooting was not a random attack. Media reports said she was the ex-girlfriend of the surgeon.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/13/buffalo-police-respond-to-reports-deadly-shooting-at-hospital/?test=latestnews#ixzz1xlUo6yxs
She said Wisniewski told her the doctor had put a GPS tracking device in her car and once held her captive in her home for a day and a half, wielding a knife.
“She told me if anything happened to her, that it was him,” Shipley told the station.
Police have described Jorden as a bald, black male, about 6-foot-2 and 250 pounds, who could be “special weapons trained.”
Yeah, that sounds more like someone overheard Jorden making up stories rather than actual research by reporters. WTF does “special weapons trained” mean? Does a “special weapon” point and fire by itself? Or does it shout “Timmah!” while the operator wears a bicycle helmet? And if the dude held his victim captive with a knife for a day-and-a-half, why does he have no criminal record?
I find it difficult to believe that a “special weapons trained” special forces soldier would go to medical school, not that it isn’t possible, but it’s unlikely. I’m checking on Jorden’s records, but in the interim it sounds like rumor mongering by the police. They should send in their future congressman, David Bellavia to flush him out and take the dude out with his Gerber Multitool. That’s “special weapons trained”.
UPDATE: Local news says;
The U.S. Army tells News 4 the Buffalo native was in the Army Special Forces, serving from 1982 to 1992 as a Special Operations Medical Sergeant. He later served in the Army from 1996 to 1999 as a general surgeon, attaining the rank of Captain.
Jorden received the following awards and decorations: Army Achievement Medal, Army Commendation Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, Master Parachute Badge, Scuba Diver Badge, Special Forces Tab.
So he’s not a Special Forces Captain like Good Morning America is saying. He’s a former captain who was in Special Forces before he was a captain.
UPDATE 2: Mary at POW Network sent us this link with this picture of him in uniform;
I guess it’s too much to ask the media to blame the fact that he specialized in treating gunshot wounds for his rampage. Naw, the crazed veteran thing is too good to pass on, I suppose.
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Oh good god, I just about lost my coffee….Timmah!
It took SWAT, a robot and helicopters during a nine hour standoff to find out the guy wasn’t home??? Keystone Kops.
From the Buffalo News:” Believing the doctor had left ECMC, authorities circulated photos of Jorden and his four vehicles, and put out warnings that he was a trained Army Special Forces weapons expert. He had served in the Army from 1996 to 1998″.
I was a straight leg grunt (who could do math) so can someone explain to me how you can be a Special Forces weapons expert in two years of service.
I did check online with New York State and his MD profile stated he was at Madigan Army Medical Center in 96-98 as an intern after graduating University of Buffalo Medical School.
Why is there now a pic in my head of little media wienies with tiny mics running around flapping their arms yelling “Special Forces, Special Forces” and “special weapons, special weapons” every time there is any kind of incident these days?
One news source says he was an SF Medic and trained with a lot of weapons. If that news source is correct… absodamnlutley trained with numerous weapons. Another news source had him as a Weapons Sergeant then later became a Medical Sergeant. Possible. As for former SF medics going to Med school… numerous! Many go the PA route, but there are more than a handful that become “real Docs.”
“Special weapons” usually means nonconventional; i.e., chemical, biological, or radiological. It’s most common use refers specifically to nuclear weapons. Nowadays, the uninitiated have a tendency to throw around the word “special” without really understanding its proper use.
Come on guys, you should know by now.
Why would the media sensationalize or focus on the Special Forces aspect of it?
You know why.
@#7 Because of the movie “Rambo”? LOL!
It’s reported the doctor tracked his girlfriend, and held her captive at one point. If this is true, so are two other things:
1.No matter who trained him, the good doctor was a nutjob.
2.Somebody dropped the ball, because this didn’t come out of the blue.
No. 9 PintoNag :
The Same for — MAJ HASSAN — “MENTAL HEALTH PRO”
Dropped the ball, and dropped the whole damned Stadium .
@10 I agree. Both of them should have been hammered flat a long while ago, and well before they got the chance to hurt anyone else.
Maybe the “spacial weapon” is the Acme-Whizzbang 5000 Super Deatomizer with an optional Star Fleet X-204 plasma phaser.
Jorden was thrown out of the Army and this was not the first for him! Shame on the Med Board for giving him a license!