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Clerk Opens Fire After Brutal Assault by Teen Trio
Brandon Curtis
A late-night robbery turned violent at a Boise business, where a store clerk was assaulted by three suspects and shot one of them in self-defense. All three suspects were later arrested by police, with one suffering a gunshot wound and the employee sustaining serious injuries.
BOISE, ID (3-minute read) — A violent encounter at a Boise business Saturday night led to a self-defense shooting involving a store employee and three suspects.Around 9:30 p.m., Boise Police responded to reports of a shooting on the 6300 block of West Fairview Avenue. Officers arrived to find an employee seriously injured after being attacked during an attempted theft.
According to investigators, 18-year-old Bailey Geesey of Boise entered the business and began stealing alcoholic beverages. When confronted, Geesey responded violently, punching the employee in the face. The situation escalated when two others, 18-year-old Junior Antonio Alvarodo Hernandez and an unnamed juvenile, joined in the attack.
The employee was forced into a corner and was repeatedly punched, kicked, and stomped. In a desperate act of self-defense, the employee drew a legally possessed firearm and fired at the attackers, striking Hernandez.
All three suspects fled the scene, but police later located their vehicle near North Curtis Road and West Irving Street. Officers arrested Geesey and the juvenile, and administered medical aid to the wounded Hernandez before transporting him to the hospital. He was later booked into Ada County Jail.
The employee was also taken to the hospital with serious but non-life-threatening injuries.
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A gun in the hand is worth more than cops on the way.
Not such a feel-good story but this is the anniversary of Hiroshima, August 6th.
I dunno.
The Japanese racists FAFO that poking the American people will kill you.
The more that you insist on dieing for your cause, the more sure we will be to accommodate you.
I know there are a lot of folks dissing on the P320.
I read the article someone linked to this week where the ex-Army type was badmouthing it – based on someone else’s video. I was thinking “Dude, if you’re going to form an opinion about something, get some first-hand experience with it first or shut your pie-hole.”
As I’ve mentioned before, I carry a post-upgrade P320 entry level P320. I have put ball and defensive ammo though it to the tune of > 1.5k rounds with no F2Fs, NDs, or ADs.
I carry in a home crafted holster I originally made for my P220 with a laser on the rail. I’ve not decided to transfer the laser to the P320, but the pistol is held firmly in place, trigger guard covered.
Where 2nd-hand info dude was seeing slop in the fitting of the slide, the slide on my pistol is firm, no slop.
Now, this is one copy of the pistol, and others may have some issues I have not encountered, but I remain skeptical about the reports. To the point of wondering if there isn’t a coordinated effort by some anti-gunners to bring down another firearms manufacturer.
YMMV
“To the point of wondering if there isn’t a coordinated effort by some anti-gunners to bring down another firearms manufacturer.”
There’s other firearms manufacturers that would benefit also if the MHS went out for re-bid.
Beretta and Glock, to be sure. I own both and have never had any issue with mine (much like Greybeard with his P320), nor have I heard of anything like an “uncommanded discharge” occurring with any Beretta or Glock design. It’s not uncommon for new firearms, especially pistols considering their prevalence as duty and concealed carry weapons, to have detractors, but so far as I know, there’s never been so much documented evidence of a popular design being unsafe. I used to dislike Glock. I’d never owned one, but I kept a friend’s Glock 23 for a while and shot it over 20 years ago. I disliked the grip angle, disliked the lack of a manual safety, and just didn’t care for the plastic abomination. My Beretta 92F is great, and I figured my Kel-Tec P11 could do everything a Glock 26 could do while being smaller and lighter: Kel-Tec P-11 vs Glock G26 size comparison | Handgun Hero. This was during the AWB, so I was limited to 10 rounds, though I do own a couple of 14-round S&W mags that work with the Kel-Tec. Now I own a couple of Glocks, with plans to buy more. Granted, I could buy every Glock available and still have just different sizes, calibers, and colors of the same gun, but the design has proven robust, reliable, and most of all, safe. I carry a G17 for work, and a G45 when I’m not at work. As for Beretta, besides the 92F, I have 96G conversion, a 3032 Tomcat, and 80X Cheetah and used to own an M1934. I worked for PEO Soldier before I retired, but the M17/M18 was adopted before I’d even moved back to the DC area. So, I don’t know anything about the MHS, or even the NGSW trials. I do know that the program I was assigned to, the IVAS, seems to be something the Army is hell-bent on adopting regardless of setbacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “right” people lobbied for the adoption of the P320 over the M9A3 and G19X, ensuring that SIG won… Read more »
For better or worse, it’s the society we live in. Social media “influencers” and their fans have piled on the P320, and given SIG’s response, rightfully so in my opinion.
If I owned a P320 and had zero issues with it, I might share your sentiment. As it stands, when “GunTube” personalities like Ian McCollum, Brandon Herrera, James Reeves, Colion Noir, John Correia, Nate Cornacchia, Hickok45, and others–all of whom are firearms experts, manufacturers, instructors, competition shooters, lawyers, and/or 2A advocates, and most of whom own multiple P320s–are talking about the incidents with the P320 and openly stating that they will no longer carry or even trust their pistols, it helps non-experts like me formulate an opinion. I’ve seen enough videos and read enough stories of actual uncommanded discharges to think there’s more to this than just some anti-SIG conspiracy. For a fairly short video showing video evidence and investigation reports, there’s this: The P320 is Safe and Effective.
I’ll crap on the P320 all day, but I won’t claim to have first-hand knowledge or to be an SME on the topic. It really doesn’t matter what I type on the internet or even say in person. I don’t own a P320 and have never even owned a SIG. I’ll never own a P320, but for the right price, I’d love to get a P226 or other older design, and I’ve considered getting a P365. So, I don’t hate SIG, and I sure don’t want to see them go bankrupt.
From a pure layman’s perspective, the P320 seemed to come out of nowhere and rapidly became one of the most popular and ubiquitous pistols out there. I don’t have numbers to back it up, but it’s possible that P320 variants are second only to Glocks in the holsters of law enforcement, and I’m sure they’re in the top five if not. Not bad for a pistol that’s been around for 11 years and had some pretty disconcerting safety issues from its inception.
“I’d love to get a P226 or other older design, and I’ve considered getting a P365.”
My son has a P226 and has never had any problems with it.
My daughter and daughter in law both have P365’s, without issues.
If your hands are a little bigger go with the P365XL, it has a slightly longer grip and slide, I have one and have had zero issues with it and it fits my hands better than the 365. The P365XL is my EDC. It comes with 2 12 round mags and 1 15 round mag.
I’ve handled a few of them and find the XL a better fit than the standard 365. The XMACRO is a bit larger and uses 17 round mags, so I may look into one of those.
I found a 17 round mag for my XL.
Great, now VG has to worry about uncommanded discharges. Good on the clerk. Recently, a California jewelry store owner deterred 20 smash and grab thieves by firing a shot. Unfortunately, CA is one of those states where the would-be victim will likely be treated as more criminal than the mob that was armed with sledgehammers and other tools. I’m glad I live in a state where Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground laws exist, and where vehicles are considered an extension of one’s property. After over a year of just having what was handy in the vehicle and occasionally tossing a gun in the pocket, I’ve started strapping on my G45 again. It’s handy, as I can simply take a couple of the spare mags from the duty belt. I keep that with the G17 next to the bed, and my Ruger PC Carbine with the Glock mag well is near at hand. But back to those uncommanded discharges. It’s not often that a firearm makes such an impact that a new term is coined. At least, I hadn’t heard the term “uncommanded discharges” before recently, and even AI generates a definition using the P320 as an example. Years ago, it was “accidental discharge”, before the more proper term “negligent discharge” became popular (kind of like a vehicle accident versus a wreck). But those terms don’t fit what the P320 is doing. SIG used to be known for high-quality pistols like the P226 and P229. The P365 is one of the most popular subcompact 9mms on the market. The P320, though, has had a troubled history since its inception, from the lack of a drop safety through to its current woes. The fact that [somehow] it managed to become the M17 and M18, leading a lot of law enforcement agencies to adopt it (after all, it “passed” the rigorous MHS trials) is proving to be the opposite of what SIG had hoped. There are lots of people who simply won’t buy a SIG, period, much less a P320 variant, while lawsuits and lost contracts are going to be a thing… Read more »
I was thinking about buytng the P320… By the way, do any of you TAHers know if they make body armor for ones balls to go with the P320??? Just asking….
I’ve got one of these: Army to Issue Latest Armored Groin Protection to Paratroopers | Military.com
The Army never put it on my hand receipt, but I don’t think it’d work if I were carrying inside-the-waistband, especially appendix. 😊
Thanks for the info fm2176.