Co-ed sub? Coming this week

| September 11, 2024 | 21 Comments

609 sighs of relief, we assume.

Women were authorized to set sail under the sea in 2010, and since then quite a few have joined the submarine service. Currently, there are 609 deployed in the fleet on subs designed for all-male crews.

The USS New Jersey, however, is due to be launched this weekend and is the first Navy sub purpose-built to have a co-ed crew.

Lieutenant Commanders Andrea Howard and Emma McCarthy, who joined the influx of women to the fleet, wrote last year about the adjustments needed — both physical and social — in integrating them on ships designed for all-male crews.

Space is tight, and the distribution of bathrooms and berths doesn’t always match the crew’s needs, they wrote.

“The number of women on board often does not conform to three- or six-man rack configurations,” they said.

Similar issues apply to the washrooms, with some crews dividing up the space and others deciding to use them in all-male and all-female blocks.

“Transit to and from these spaces for showering also warrants an unambiguous, uniform standard for decency,” they said.

I remember when the Army faced this in Germany…a barracks I lived in was completely co-ed. The showers were individual stalls with dressing cubbies and full-length TALL doors to discourage peeping, so it wasn’t unusual  to shower a couple of feet away from one of the opposite sex – totally unknowingly.

Only knew of one pinhead who tried to peep – as I recall no disciplinary action was taken (after he recovered from that unfortunate downstairs fall…you ever see the stone stairwells on old German kaserne quarters? Brutal. Rumor had it he was advised he might trip and fall again if he persisted in trying to look over partitions.)

The first influx of female junior officers also drew sometimes awkward curiosity from male crew members, they said.

“A fishbowl effect developed any time one of the first female junior officers did something for the first time,” they wrote.

The USS New Jersey is the 23rd Virginia-class submarine and the third Navy vessel to be named after the state. In 1900, New Jersey was the site of the construction of the first-ever US submarine.

Be interesting to see what design changes have been made.

The photo above is of the first female sub XO, Amber Cowan.

By the way, you can buy chunks of the teak decking from the old USS New Jersey, which is a dreadnaught class battleship of the same vintage of the Texas.  Looks plain at first but makes for  great knife grips.

 

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Hack Stone

In Philadelphia they call those boats Hoagies.

KoB

Is there a whole new meaning now when she orders “Dive Dive Dive”…or “Launch torpedo…”

I’ll put myself in time out.

5JC

Starship Troopers, almost home.

Anonymous

That’ll be fun. /sarc. Trouble, trouble, trouble.
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Anonymous

100 crew deploy, 50 couples return– made real.

Prior Service (Ret)

50 couples, a trio of future ship’s boys and a brace of powder monkeys.

Anonymous

What happens on the sub, stays on the sub…

SFC D

Gonna be real interesting when a sub has to make an unscheduled portcall to transfer a pregnant female Sailor. It will happen.

Green Thumb

Yep.

A they will need to take a few DNA samples…..

Anonymous

Not to mention playing “Whose Baby Is It?” and more people (and inappropriate ones) than you thought get found/uptight.

That’ll be fun (/sarc again) on a sub:

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26Limabeans

Are we talkin traditional male / female or will DEI play a role?

fm2176

I’m sure ADM Levine will stick her torpedo in the head debate. Separate berths may help reduce births, but those stunning and brave transgender masses rushing to join the ranks must be respected as well. If I, as a lesbian transwoman, wish to be berthed with fellow women, that’s my right. If a few young female Sailors want to take advantage of my built-in periscope, well, that’s simply nature. See, men, the Seamen love semen.

I’ll go wait for the hurricane now. ⛵

CRanders

The USS New Jersey Is an Iowa class battleship. It’s not in the Texas class.

JustALurkinAround

That sub will be underway to Pound Town.

Anonymous

If the boat’s a-rocking, don’t come a-knocking?

STSC(SW/SS)

Seaman Sally is not a very good looking at the start of the deployment. At the end she will be a beauty queen.

BennSue

Morale Queen.

Green Thumb

Dudes have been showering with dudes since the beginning in the Navy.

And now that want to mess that up….

NHSparky

Meh. Even in the 80s-90s I knew it was a matter of time, and that women on submarines wasn’t a quality issue but a privacy one.

Fyrfighter

No fair David, you mention the availability of teak decking but no mention of the source…

Odie

Somebody will forget to put the seat down, you watch.