PTSD and TBI from your service? The Canadian VA says, “We’d like to help you kill yourself”

| August 21, 2022

Canada has a reputation for being a place with nice scenery, nice fishing, and, above all, nice people. Apparently those that are part of the Veterans Affairs Canada bureaucracy are heartless fucks who would rather see struggling veterans get access to Canada’s relatively new doctor assisted suicide (called Medical Assistance in Dying, MAiD). Intended to help those with conditions like late stage cancer end their suffering, I guess VAC will push it on those literally begging for help.

From Global News;

The federal government is launching a “full and thorough” investigation into the case of a Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) employee discussing medical assistance in dying (MAiD) with a veteran.

In a statement provided to Global News on Friday afternoon, a spokesperson for Veterans Affairs Minister Lawrence MacAulay said that the minister “has directed his Deputy Minister to undertake a full and thorough investigation into this matter.”

MacAulay is also ordering that, “all front line staff at Veterans Affairs Canada are given formal training, direction, and advice on how to approach issues around MAiD,” the statement added.

The investigation and training come after Global News first reported on Aug. 16 that a Veterans Affairs Canada (VAC) employee had discussed medically-assisted dying with a veteran, a case that veterans’ advocates said made clear the stark stakes of the ongoing struggle for veterans to access supports.

Sources told Global News a VAC service agent brought up MAiD unprompted in a conversation with the combat veteran, who was seeking treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder and a traumatic brain injury.

Global News is not identifying the veteran who was seeking treatment due to privacy concerns but has spoken directly with the individual, who says the service agent brought up MAiD repeatedly and even after the veteran asked the service agent to stop.

The veteran said he felt pressured as a result.

He also said that the service agent told him in the call about having helped another veteran access resources for medical assistance in dying through Veterans Affairs Canada, including support for that person’s children who were struggling with the impending death.

The veteran told Global News that service agent told him that the other veteran went through with a medically-assisted death, and that it had been someone who was determined to end his life.

“Better than blowing his brains out all over the wall or driving his car into something,” the veteran says the service agent told him when describing that separate case.

Veterans Affairs Canada said earlier this week it was looking into the matter.

The department and its staff do not have the ability to provide the resources for an assisted death, but veterans advocates have raised serious concerns about the impact of even raising the subject.

“It’s kind of like planting a seed,” said Debbie Lowther, executive director of VETS Canada, a charity that helps veterans in crisis.

“If we have a veteran who’s already struggling with their mental health and maybe they are contemplating suicide … this is an opportunity that’s been presented to them.”

For some, the thought of taking their own life and having a loved one find their body may have been a deterrent to going through with suicidal thoughts, she explained.

But presenting the option to have a medically-assisted death instead, Lowther said, “could have very, very damaging consequences.”

Bruce Moncur, founder of the Afghanistan Veterans Association of Canada, raised similar concerns.

“If that veteran was close to the edge, that might have been the hair that broke the camel’s back,” he said in an interview. “It’s so cavalier with somebody’s life.”

Moncur fought in Afghanistan as a reservist and sustained a traumatic brain injury after being shot in the head while deployed. He said learning of the service agent bringing up medical assistance in dying to a veteran left him feeling “shock, outrage, anger.”

“My understanding [is] this staff is still on the payroll and still working at their job, which is unacceptable to me. I just cannot understand how this person can still be trusted,” he said.
“I’m wondering, is this my case manager? Is this somebody that I have trying to look after me?“

Moncur, whose partner is NDP MP Niki Ashton, also criticized MacAulay’s performance in the job.

He said he sits on the Service Excellence Advisory Group, which advises the minister, and tried to call an emergency meeting about the matter.

“They denied my request,” Moncur said. “They said that we were going to have a meeting in September anyway, so might as well just wait until then.“

Global News sent a list of detailed questions about the specifics of the allegations made by the veteran to officials at Veterans Affairs Canada. In response, the department stated they do not record phone conversations between veterans and staff in order to protect privacy.

The department said it could not corroborate the allegations made by the veteran that the service agent had described helping a separate veteran access medical assistance in dying, or about the veteran’s claim that the agent told the separate veteran that MAiD was “better than blowing his brains out.”

The veteran who spoke with Global News has said he filed multiple complaints about the service agent since July 21, 2022.

“When the Veteran client called VAC to share what happened on the call, we immediately took action to address the situation and apologized to the client,” a spokesperson for Veterans Affairs Canada said.

“As directed by the Minister of Veterans Affairs, the Deputy Minister will oversee a thorough internal investigation into this matter and take any appropriate administrative actions necessary to ensure this situation doesn’t happen again.”

“In addition, all VAC frontline staff will be provided training as a reminder of the expectations and the available programs and services offered by the Department to support the health and well-being of Veterans.”

Under Canadian law, medically-assisted death can only be discussed between a primary care provider like a physician or psychiatrist and their patient.

What. The. Fuck.

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Of course they want to help you exit.
Benefits for PTSD and TBI are costly and the sooner we can
“cure” those poor bastards the better for all of us taxpayers.


Will they give the Vet a last meal of a real steak and show him a movie of the great outdoors? Next set of guidelines to be issued…”How To Serve Mankind”?


“last meal of a real steak”

I-95 roadkill. Deer, Moose, Coyote……pick of the day…etc.


That should be a movie 😏


Ya think?


Pardon the snarkiness, just being silly. (Should have “/sarc” in there somewhere.)

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Soylent Green is made out of people!


Yep. Old people go in to watch a movie, and Soylent Green comes out the other side.


Logan’s Run

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Obsessed with administering MAiD to others, must be having suicidal thoughts yourself.

Why don’t you take it yourself, and record and download it, just to show the rest of us how it’s done, and how peaceful it really is as opposed to blowing one’s brains out?

The clean up is so much less messy, as there is no blood and brain matter splatter.

President Elect Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Sorry, RGR769, I neglected to add the (/s) tag at the end.


More cost-effective than traditional VA care they’ll say.


After people are dead, they are really low maintenance.

Hack Stone

But they can still vote.


Only if it’s for leftists/democrat tyrants.


So, Veterans Affairs Canada was responsible for Jeffrey Epstein’s medical care while in jail?


I’m thinking we are only 2 steps away from Soylent Green being a reality.


Social Security Administration never did explain why the felt 174,000 hollowpoint rounds might be needed there.
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There was once a man who was a Jack-of-all-trades; he had served in the war, and had been brave and bold, but at the end of it he was sent about his business, with three farthings and his discharge.

-‘Six Soldiers of Fortune’ from Grimms’ Fairy Tales’

RGR 4-78

A vast bureaucracy investigating itself, awesome.

USMC Steve

Wow. The Canadian VA makes our VA look like amateurs.

Skivvy Stacker

If someone suggested that to me I’d just tell them to show me how it’s done.