It Will Be 20 Years Next Month
9/11 Survivors and families have asked Biden to not attend the memorial in New York City next month.
So far, the info about whether or not the Saudis were behind the 9/11 attacks has not been made public or declassed.
What is there to hide about it?
This is long after those events. There is no valid reason to hold back the requested information, unless the administration is trying to hide something, is there?
No, there is not.
This article from Yahoo says the Biden admin is committed to releasing that information, but I do not see anything forthcoming. The Trump administration kept it classified in 2019, but if there is nothing to hide, what’s the impediment? Were they even planning to publish the documentation?
https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-responds-9-11-185319129.html
The events of 09/11/2001 won’t go away until those of us are gone, we who witnessed the collapsing buildings and the destruction of lives and saw the ‘Have you seen….?’ notes posted on fences in NYC, whether it was in person or on TV. Then it will fade into history.
Category: Biden, Historical
So, the Saudi government was behind the 9/11?
I thought it was Al Qaeda.
I really hate conspiracy theories. This sounds to me like blaming the Oklahoma bombing on the US government because that dude served in the Army.
It was. With Saudi financial backing.
If that’s the case and we have evidence, then let’s drop the hammer on Saudi Arabia.
If there are no consequences for attacking us, we are setting the stage for the next attack.
If doesn’t matter how much time has passed. In that part of the world people think in generational terms. The crusades happened yesterday.
I agree. But the feds won’t release what they have. Can’t even blame it on Biden, he’s just the latest.
Keep in mind, Bin Laden and most of his cohorts were Saudi. The Saudis (just like ALL of the other ME Countries) play us like a fine violin. They are NOT our friends. It is the expressed purpose of their religion to destroy us. It’s that simple. It’s all about the oil…and always will be. Trump’s “Put America FIRST (ht 2 Sparks) Program” was going a long way to making us truly independent of Mid East oil. Another reason why he had to go.
We will never see the truth of those attacks in our lifetimes. Just as in the JFK and Epstein “murders”. Took better than 100 years for some of the hidden truths to come out about the Lincoln Assassination. Yeah, Booth pulled the trigger, but there was no need to hang Mary Surratt. Sorry, I digress.
What did W know and when did he know it? I respect the WWII Service that George HW gave, but he was a career swamp dweller for decades, remember he was deep state CIA. ZERO (0) phuques to give for Jr! And yeah, his daddy made sure he never went to the Viet of the Nam. Wouldn’t do for W to get his azz shot down over Hanoi. And W was in the Nasty Girls when we were needing pilots, understand too, that W wasn’t that much of a pilot.
I totally despise and distrust most all politicians. They may start out as decent people and then get corrupted. The American public is nothing but a sugar teat to them and we have “no need to know” what they know.
The ME? Give the IDF whatever they need to defend themselves and nuke the rest of it from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
We’ll talk another day about just how lethal driving aircraft can be and just how good a pilot W was. Too off topic for further discussion here, but we can find an appropriate spot for it…
I’d look forward to that OWB. Roger on the lethality of driving aircraft. A certain BeNasty lawer, that’s still maintaining minus 6′ AGL, could attest to that. Maybe I should have said that W wasn’t exactly “Airman of the Month” quality, tho he might have been technically proficient in piloting.
Make us up a thread post on the subject and submit it thru admin. I’m sure that others would find that of interest too.
‘ I’m sure that others would find that of interest too’. – I second the motion.
I’m in as well.
The day before they executed Terry Nichols it came out that the FBI had been hiding thousands of exculpatory documents from the defense. The government couldn’t kill him fast enough,to cover-up the muslum connection. The FBI HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DOMESTIC FALSE FLAGS. Killing Americans doesn’t seem to bother them much.
Then-businessman DJT knew the questions.
Cui bono?
What was taking place in the office at the 5-sided puzzle palace that got hit?
When you hide the truth the most likely scenario *is* the truth.
Declas or stfu.
The Pentagon wasn’t targeted. It was supposed to be the White House, but the hijackers apparently couldn’t figure out where it was and slammed into the Pentagon instead.
Actually, Ex-PH2, what I’ve seen suggests the flight that UA Flight 93 (the one that augered-in in PA) was intended to target the White House, and that the passengers onboard prevented that. The Pentagon was almost certainly always one of the targets, as it was seen as a symbol of US military power; an attack on same would have been a powerful symbolic act. The same for the White House.
Similarly, the WTC was a symbol of US economic/commercial power and was likely targeted for that reason.
But without confirmation from one of the participants, I guess anything is possible.
Good point, Hondo, although there was a lot of speculation at the time it happened about why the Pentagon was hit instead of the White House. Your info is more likely up to date than what was published in the media back then.
There were also articles suggesting that Chicago was a major target, because of the (then) Sears Tower.
Thought it was fairly common knowledge at the time that the only failure was the plane intended for either the US Capitol or the White House. All the others were on target. But, memory fades with time. Still wanting some vengeance even if that is an evil notion.
I had read elsewhere that flight 93’s target was supposedly the Capital building. I very well could be wrong since I’m just going off of memory
I recommend a book called ‘Hatred’s Kingdom’ https://www.amazon.com/Hatreds-Kingdom-Arabia-Supports-Terrorism/dp/0895260611/ref=nodl_
It’s a few years old, but it explains the nexus between Saudi Arabia, Wahhabism (fundamentalist Islam), and Al Qaeda.
Essentially, back in the Ottoman days the house of Saud formed a relationship with Muhammad and Wahhab, and have supported each other since. Wahhabists fundamentalist Islam through religious schools called madrassas funded by rich saudis- especially in places like the refugee camps in the federally administered tribal areas between Afghanistan and Pakistan (where students were called Talib, collectively Taliban).
Al Qaeda was formed as a Wahhabist organization that used mainly Saudi money to move and train fighters from all over the world into places like Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, the Balkans, Africa, etc.
So, the Saudi government per se was not behind 9/11, but Saudi’s were
Read this book too and found it to be a ‘sensible publication’ As for the rest – you nailed it.
JFK’s death was almost 58 yrs ago, and shit ton of documents are still sealed up tight. Yeah, sorry for the families, but they shouldn’t hold their breath.
The problem with trying to parse “was the Government of Saudi Arabia” involved, or was it the action of a renegade cleric and his followers, some of those followers were royalty of the House of Saud.
The government of Saudi Arabia IS the House of Saud.
Just like the corporations of communist China ARE the businesses of the Chinese Communist Party. They are one and the same.
Were some Saudi princes — and therefore by royal birth members of the government — complicit in the 911 attack.
Of course.
But does that mean that the King, as a matter of Saudi government policy, wanted or enabled the 911 attacks?
I think not.
True, they are not our friends, but they are not our enemy.
You are correct, but really depends on when you want to start the story. I usually tell the story beginning in 1979, the year the world changed and everyone was distracted. The big events that everyone remembers are the Islamic Revolution in Iran and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. More important but mostly forgotten, the Israelis and Egyptians signed the Camp David accord, which led to the assassination of Anwar Sadat by the Muslim Brotherhood, a subsequent crackdown by the Egyptian Government, and two obscure clerics being thrown in jail- Aiman Zawahiri and Omar Ahmed Rahman, AKA the Blind Sheik, AKA the guy behind the first WTC bombing in 1193. Zawahiri went on to co-found Al Qaeda with our pal Osama Bin Laden, who at that time was funneling money and fighters into Afghanistan. The Iran Iraq war started in 1980, which led to Saddam Hussein nearly bankrupting Iraq to defeat the Persians, which in turn led to him deciding that seizing Kuwait would be a good idea (in his mind, they owed him, plus, they were traditionally considered an Iraq province). Little known fact: When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990,Bin Laden approached King Fahd with a proposal to use his fighters to defend Saudi Arabia and drive them out of Kuwait. It may sound improbable now, but keep in mind they had just defeated the Soviets in Afghanistan. The king decided to go with the US led coalition (we did have A LOT of tanks and bombers that we didn’t need in Germany any more). The fact that the Custodian of the two Holy Mosques was welcoming infidel armies into Muslim lands proved to Bin Laden that all of the governments in the Middle East were apostate, and he changed the strategy from defeating Israel directly to compelling the West to withdraw their support for Israel. In 1996 he essentially declared war on the US with a Fatwa calling for attacks on the US and its interests anywhere in the world, and this was followed in 1998 by a Fatwa that justifies killing civilians and even Muslims who might… Read more »
I agree with your assessment and your take on the history of that region is accurate. Few are aware of these historical facts. Unfortunately, most of our citizens are totally clueless about anything that happened more than a year ago. For a country with a supposedly educated and literate populace, we are a nation of know nothings.
While they are certainly welcome to their opinion, one with which I can sympathize, it is also rather tacky to not have the sitting prez participate in commemorative events on the anniversary.
Oh, well. Traffic would be much better without him and his entourage.
I know where I’ll be on September 11.
Steel Panther gig.
Here’s an R Rated music video.
Well, it was either this,
or
Death To All But Meal.
Or
Fuck Everybody.
Or
Fuck 2020.
Enjoy…..
Clean version.
In hindsight, perhaps we should have just turned some keys, waited a bit, bounced some rubble, and called it a day.
Things would likely have gone better, sad to say.