John Louis Woodward; Vietnam phony

| July 5, 2013

John Woodward

Meet John Louis Woodward who has a fascinating story to tell about how he was with a secret Army unit. According to Woodward, in December, 1972 he was sent as a Ranger in the secret unit known but to God as the “Gundog Team”. Here’s his story;

John Woodward gundog fantasy

I guess the main problem, among many, with his story is that he was in AIT at Fort Leonard Wood, MO in December 1972 according to his 2-1;

John Woodward assignments

And, oh, another problem is that he never served in Vietnam, through no fault of his own, but that doesn’t justify the crazy-assed Gundogs fantasy;

John Woodward FOIA

But he was selected to represent real Vietnam veterans when he laid a wreath at the Tombs of the Unknown Soldiers in Arlington, the filthy hippie f*ck;

John Woodward wreath

You can read more about this smelly hippie scumbag at Scotty’s place. He’s an embarrassment to every veteran, just by his appearance alone. I hope he chokes on his scraggly hair in his sleep.

Category: Phony soldiers

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Joe Williams

I noticed that he does not claim or wear any valor medals or claims to them in this article or pic. He talks of being wounded but no award of a PH. Now the reporter,with all the infro and sites why are the reporters not doing better fact checking of these “heros”. Texas is the wrong place to be a POSER. In Texas there are many of real vets. I strongly advise the POSER to move out of state quickly.

68W58

AtDrum-pretty good stuff, but “2 out of 3 ain’t bad” would have been a better choice considering that you 1) saved the bird and 2) killed the shooter but 3) lost the big gun.

TheCloser

It’s really hard for a journalist to confirm whether a person played Major League Baseball. Only four Woodwards ever in the Majors, and none for only one season in the 1971-1972 time frame. Probably a classified call-up known only to Charlie Finley.

The rest of the story sounds legit though.

USMCE8Ret

I think it’d be worth reading for everyone to write up their own fabricated “So there I was….” story. Then we could all vote. Most of the comments here are quite imaginative and insightful, but mostly hysterical.

USMCE8Ret

@53 – Journalists/news media types suck these days. Hardly anyone checks their facts anymore, lest they miss the opportunity to “get a great story out”. It’s easier to offer a retraction or correction than doing research in the first place.

As far as the liars like this guy goes, everyone seems to get a pass and the media hardly picks up on it.

Just An Old Dog

After 55 posts All I have to add is,,,,once again,,

DAVES NOT HERE MAN!!!

JustTheFactsMa'am

#53: Are you saying his story is legit? Just wanted to ensure it was not a typo.

#55: Hope ALL of the News Media that believed his “story” admit their error and humbly do a retraction. After all, if it wasn’t for them, we might have never been known about this Wannabee…

TheCloser

@57- That is sarcasm… I didn’t think a tag was necessary.

I think this dude is a front runner for the next Ballduster Tourney.

HMCS(FMF) ret

DAVE??? DAVE?? DAVE’S NOT HERE!

Hack.Stone

No, man, I’m Dave.

James

#50 – AWESOME!!!!! THE Bradly Commander’s notebook!!! I wonder if it has been updated since this post to include high orbit kills…

Joe Williams

God help me,I looked at the picture again. I have decided that there is nothing uglier than a balding long haired hippie.

LebbenB

The more I read his story, the name “Gundogs” kept jumping out at me. Then it dawned on me – “Gundogs” was the title of a Warhammer 40K novel. Much like this guy’s story, it was a work of fiction.

OldSargeUSAR

Here’s hoping the judge and that dumbass reporter have the balls to bust that smelly hippie poser dude.

Dirtbag

AverageNCO

Another grungy Vietnam phony. He can hang out with David Groves and the guy on the cover of “Fake Warriors”
@7 Hack, I definitely remember my first time. I was a recruiter in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, standing in line a the mall food court. A girl standing next me in line saw me in uniform, and told me she was also in the Air Force. Between her pink hair and nose ring, I assumed she meant she was “formerly” in the Air Force. But no, she said he was stationed down the road at Keesler AFB in Biloxi. Puzzeled, I asked her what she did there. She told me she was part of a program that designed “top secret fighter jets.” Keesler is a training base for electricians and admin troops….not a place where they design jets. I sat and stewed on for a while then gave her one of my cards and told her to come see me when she was ready to stop bullshitting people. Needless to say, I never saw her again.

jonp

You apparently didn’t read his story. He was part of a “secret team”. Of course his records don’t show it. Jeez louise.
He could let you see them but then you would get a visit from boys out of “the farm” and that would be that

Ex-PH2

He’s probably been getting his stuff out of back issues of “Vietnam Magazine”.

Hack.Stone

I have video of Woodward receiving his pre-deployment brief right before the POW rescue mission.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Dave … oh Dave!

Hack.Stone

Dave’s not here, man.

A Proud Infidel & Patriot

“OPEN THE DOOR, MAN!! IT’S ME, DAVE, I GOT THE STUFF, MAN!!”

“DAVE’S NOT HERE!”

*whimper*….

Combat Historian

THe article said he was assigned to “ranger team F”. I assume the “F” stands for FAKE, FALSE, FUCKED-UP, FORGERY…

O-4E

Chong: You’re driving like an idiot, man.

Cheech: I just can’t get used to these automatics, man.

Chong: Yeah, they are real complicated, aren’t they?

AlphaOneLimaOneSix

I went on a Legion Riders Post to Post ride yesterday for the 4th of July Celebration. Post 72 where we started had the Chapter 23 President sporting all the Vietnam, 1st Cav patches, a Silver Star, Bronze Star and Purple Heart on his vest. His name is not on the Silver Star index, but that’s only 70% complete. He could be legit. Another guy pointed at my Pathfinder Torch and commented about how he wore his Ranger, Airborne, Pathfinder stuff all the time. I asked him what the Pathfinder School radio call sign was, he had forgotten because it was so many years ago. I took the Torch off my vest and dropped it in my pocket.

When we got to Post 118 in Rio Rancho I saw a guy with a jump wing badge and 82nd logo, so I asked him who he was with in the 82nd. He said he was attached to them then ran off to talk with someone else.

Standing at the bar at Post 99 in Albuquerque I heard a guy in line saying to someone about his time in “the airborne company back in 80.” So I turned around and asked him, “who were you with in 1980?” He said, “75th Rangers at Fort Bragg.” When I turned back to the bar he must have seen my 82nd patch on my vest because he disappeared before I could turn back to talk to him some more.

The ride went on to Post 13 then back to Post 72, but I was so disgusted by then I took my vest off, rolled it up and went home.

This fake shit is beyond belief, and I’m not liking what I’m seeing.

A Proud Infidel & Patriot

I hear you AL 16, and I feel the same way. I’m all for having a “National Beat a Poser Month” where any and every Real Vet is allowed to beat and stomp as many posers as he or she wishes to every day. During the rest of the year, every Real Vet will only be allowed to beat/stomp a maximum of twelve posers per day!!

fubar
fubar

Just contacted Judge Watson. I am sure he will be happy to find out about Woodward. I bet he wished he could take back the proclamation.

“I want to proclaim this John Woodward day in Sabine County, Texas,” Charles Watson, the Sabine County Judge, said.

The Honorable Charles E. Watson Presiding
Sabine County Judge

http://www.co.sabine.tx.us/default.aspx?Sabine_County/Commissioners.Court

fubar
fubar

Sorry…I keep finding stuff on this clown.

Hemphill veteran on a mission to create a Sabine Co. Vietnam memorial

http://www.ktre.com/story/21576427/hemphill-veteran-on-a-mission-to-create-a-national-vietnam-memorial

Hack.Stone

No, man! I’m Dave!

Hack.Stone

He was a big baseball player back in high school, he went to Vietnam. If he likes to dance in the dark, we have a pretty good idea what his favorite Bruce Springsteen album is.

COB6

#74 You expect someone to remember the callsign from the single most insignificant school in the Army? Very cool badge but the course isn’t close to being a challenge unless you struggle with 6th grade math and drawing lots of circles. Guy was probably a fraud but you need a better litmus test.

I’ve got enough badges and tabs to make any biker proud including Pathfinder but if you asked me that question I would look at you like you were crazy.

LebbenB

@81. But did he go to Darlington County? That’s the clincher.

@74. Definitely know what you’re talking about. I work right beside an H-D dealership and every so often the Combat Vets MC will meet there to start a run. Some of them have vests that make them look like walking ERBs. One guy was rockin’ a set of master blasters and a SETAF patch (Amongst many other bits of Airborne regalia.) I asked him if he ever missed road marching up Mount Motherfucker (Mt. Fogarria.) He replied that, yes, Bragg had some pretty steep hills. Then I asked him when and where he went to JM school. He told me, “No school for these. I had so many jumps ‘they’ went ahead and gave them to me.” I shook my head, laughed at him and walked away.

As I’m walking back to my shop a few minutes later, one of the other riders comes up to me and asks what happened between me and “Gramps.” I calmly said that he was a liar, plain and simple. Then I explained that you don’t get senior or master parachutist badges without first passing JM school and that Mount Motherfucker is outside Vicenza, Italy not Ft Bragg. I reached in my wallet, pulled out my ugly blue ID card and my 82nd Airborne Division Association Card (Life Member) and said, “I know what I’m talking about.”

Anonymous

Lemme guess… His top secret military unit robbed the Bank of Hanoi in December ’72 using Lineback II as cover but were wrongly convicted because their commander was killed and could testify to their orders so he and his buds (one of whom is a black dude with a mohawk) busted out of Leavenworth and escaped to L.A. where they supported themselves as soldiers of fortune… hmmm, where have I heard this before?

68W58

Anonymous-close, the bank was actually guarded by an NVA armored unit. They destroyed all the tanks but one and convinced that tank commander to turn his main gun on the bank’s doors as part of a “deal deal” (apparently he was a Republican). Then they loaded everything up on trucks and hightailed it for the Cambodian border.

AlphaOneLimaOneSix

@82 I thought it was a decent test because I remember it so well. It was used multiple times a day when we talked to anyone on the radio. Give me a suggestion for a better test.

@83 From “Gramps” answer, I doubt he was ever in any airborne unit.

2/17 Air Cav

@80 Born in Canada you were?

Green Thumb

“Man, whatcha listening to?”

“Freedom Rock”

“Well man, turn it up!”

Remember those old CD commercial in the early 90’s?

This fool looks like that guy.

COB6

@86. If in doubt I always ask Ranger or Q-Course class#. No human being ever forgot those and for some reason frauds are too stupid to look one up.

BTW, funniest answer to that question came at Bragg many years ago. A few teammates gathered at my house one Saturday for Grill and beer time. One of our newer guys had came out of 2nd Ranger Bn and no one questioned his tab but we were talking and I asked what class he was in. Without missing a beat he said class 3-83, took a sip of beer, and 4-83 and finally graduated with 5-83.

That’s wanting a tab pretty bad!

LebbenB

@89. Too Funny. We had a guy like that in LRS back in 89. He No-Go’d Darby, Mountains and Desert. He was in school so long we thought he had become permanent party at one of the RTB’s.

Anonymous

Check out “Hemphill church sign speaks out against homosexuality” nice picture of John Woodward. Wearing a Vietnam veteran hat

Anonymous

Check out hemphill church sign speaks out against homosexuality” nice pic of john Woodward wearing a Vietnam vet hat.

Rebel

STREETSWEEPER…I’m female and know more about this bag of shit and I never met him. It took everything I had to continue to communicate with this loser but thank God I hit the jackpot. Convicted felon twice in California, two in WA State. Asshole never saw Nam, While his story says he’s in a fire fight he’s in Ft. Leonard in MO. The crap, pictures, etc he emailed were unreal, sorry bullshit. I ain’t done yet. I did tell a member of the Monguals that he claimed them, then a 81 (Hells Angel) got the same message. He thinks he’s bad, but the fucker hasn’t met me face to face. I dare his ass to threaten me. I might be 5’2 101 lbs but I can kick his ass before he blinks…remember what I said Gundog poser, YOUR ASS IS MINE..scared huh? Changed your email, phone, etc. How the hell did she get the new address and phone numbers? State Hwy 875 oops forgot about this… In Hemphill Texas…see you or maybe a Mongual or a 81. Threatened the wrong person you bag of shit. Love Rebel:-)

AtDrum

When people ask how I can say I had an awesome childhood growing up and why I can take strange stuff so easily. I just point at my parents. Being raised by “motorcycle enthusiasts” is always good.

Lostboys

So I wrote the following letter to the KTRE Station Manager Starla Bickerstaff:

Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 12:51 AM
To: Bickerstaff, Starla
Subject: John Woodward story

Dear Ms. Bickerstaff,
Many veterans, including myself, have contacted your reporter Caleb Beames about known sack-of-shit John Woodward who has been featured at least three times on your station as a tragic and heroic Vietnam veteran. I am writing to you since I have yet to see a correction, retraction or even an acknowledgement that you have repeatedly reported that Woodward is some kind of military icon.
We veterans, particularly we combat veterans, take Stolen Valor very seriously and only ask that when a lazy reporter gets hoodwinked by one the legions of douchebags out there pretending to be what they are not, that editors take some responsibility and correct the record.
Before I took my current gig as a bloodthirsty contractor in Afghanistan I was a rural journalist and editor. I know about deadlines and I know about making errors, but I also know about taking some ownership of a bum story, or in this case, repeated bum stories.
As I told Caleb, the bright side is that there are at least three or four good stories in this. I would investigate this joker and burn him right down to the waterline.”

The lovely and gracious Ms. Bickerstaff contacted Kenny Boles, News Director, who told her,

“Caleb has filed a Freedom of Information Act Request through with the military records office, requesting Mr. Woodward. Once we get the records, we’ll decide how to proceed.”

So other than the News Director being unable to write a passable sentence in what I assume is his native tongue, it looks like they are going to try to close the loop on Woodward.
If anyone wants to ‘help’ here is Kenny Boles information:
Kenny Boles
KLTV/KTRE
News Director
Tyler/Lufkin/Longview/Nacogdoches
903.510.7751

Green Thumb

The missing clown from Cheech and Chong.

fubar

Patriot riders of North Texas have been alerted.I bet they will put some pop knots on his head…….

http://txpgr.org/

Green Thumb

If I read this correctly then this tool actually laid a wreath at the Tomb?

Man, fuck this guy.

OldSargeUSAR

@93
That’s “Mongols MC”. Bad actors. If you see them and the HAs in one place, “duck & cover”.

AverageNCO

@97 Forgive us if we don’t get excited about your comment. The military/veteran MC’s don’t exactly have a stellar record of policing their own regarding stolen valor.