“USA” chants racist
Tman sends us a link from the local TV news in San Antonio which reports that chants of “USA” after a boys’ basketball victory has brought charges of racism. Apparently the losing team was predominately Hispanic.
“Obviously, we were disappointed that this happened,” Alamo Heights superintendent Kevin Brown, who reportedly apologized to SAISD officials personally, told KENS5. “That’s not who we are as a community and that’s not who we are as a school. It’s not something that’s acceptable for us. Our kids are very respectable. We have to remember that they’re teenagers, and kids make mistakes.
“Still, there are consequences. We have tried to use this as a teachable moment for them. We have talked to our students. We’ve taken responsibility for it, although what happened is not representative of everybody who was there.”
I guess my question would be “Is there anything that’s not racist anymore?”
Category: Dumbass Bullshit
ROS, I’ve heard what is said at Michigan-MSU games, Western Michigan-Central Michigan games, I think the kids actually send their favorite chants to each other.
And, my son and his family live in Tulsa, so I get a pretty good run down on what goes on.
Like I said in #47, some are making mountains out of dust bunnies.
I work in SAISD.
Yeah, in case you’re wondering, they really ARE that stupid.
Good GAWD almighty! Are some of you really saying that it is racism simply because the preponderance of one side had Mexican ancestors and the other side did not?
Why should any of us give a flip about that?? Paying attention to the ethnicity of the crowd really IS racist.
Guess you are also saying that the USA chant would have been OK if both sides had the same or similar ancestry? Any ancestry would do as long as it was the same?? Does that mean that it is insensitive (and by extension, should be controlled by either law or regulation) to express national pride outside your own ancestry group? How do we of mixed ancestry figure which crowd we must stand with??
Yes, this has been a demonstration of just how absurd pc diversity crap has become.
For fuck’s sake, it’s called reading comprehension. Nobody said chanting USA amidst a group of hispanics is racist, rather that referring to Alamo Heights as “Alamo Whites” was racially motivated, as was the response of “USA” to imply the hispanic group wasn’t American.
Jesus H Roosevelt Christ on a goddam cracker.
Does it need to be spelled out in crayon for some to understand.The chant”USA”, in this instance, wasn’t being used to describe love of country. I have personally heard that chant at games, of course it was rephrased in its true meaning: “Go back to Mexico, wetbacks!” (when the team being referred to were Americans,not setbacks)There’s something to be said about ” trusting the input from boots on the ground.”
What the story fails to mention is that the Latino team that is crying racism…..actually showed up to the game with their hair dyed blonde…..mocking the mostly white school. So who is the real racist……what the fuck is this country coming to.
The media should be ashamed of themselves for leaving that part of the story out….WTF.
ROS: Red River game? Meh. That’s a minor league rivalry. You want a REAL rivalry, try the Iron Bowl. Some idiots get worked up enough over that one to kill 100 year old landmark trees on the other campus.
Literally.
MGO, putting that in the story wouldn’t fit with the mission of the media.
Heh!
Oh, I think I’ve got it now. The chant “Alamo Whites” should have be returned with an “Edison Non-Whites” and all would have been well.
Oh, wait – the smart money should be placed on only one of those would have been “racist,” for some inexplicable reason.
And yes, I am obviously guilty of having led a sheltered life since I see no implication whatever in responding with a chant of “USA” to an obvious racist chant from across the room. Sounds kinda classy from here – you know, like a group not rising to the race baiting.
Except that it matters not what was said or done, it would be labeled as racist. Sad. And quite strange from here.
No, I’m afraid you don’t get it now. “Alamo Whites” should never have been uttered in the first place, and responding with chants of “USA” lowered the Heights team to the level of the instigators. What part of “they weren’t yelling it to be patriotic” do you not understand?
Anon, I actually have a lovely picture of an elephant and a longhorn in a compromising position from the ‘Bama/tu game a few years back. If you’re from OK, the RRR is right up there with the Iron Bowl, which is admittedly intense. I’ve one friend from Mobile who loathes Auburn with such intensity, she and her Auburn-fan husband could not watch the game together at home and had to be in a public setting so that they’d be held accountable for whatever they did. Poor CSM, I really, truly think those days were the most frightening days of his life, God rest his soul. 🙂
ROS: you may be right about CSM’s days being hell. While OK-TX can get intense, it is a interstate rivalry. No matter how intense, an interstate rivalry is nowhere near the same as an intrastate rivalry. Folks on either side of an interstate rivalry don’t live literally in the same neighborhood (or the same house), all over the state, 365 days a year.
Even other famous intrastate rivalries like USC-UCLA, Stanford-Cal, Michigan-MSU, NC-NC State, and Florida-Florida State don’t really compare that well. In those states, there are other games in town and teams to follow – either college or pro. In Alabama, it’s pretty much Auburn and UA – period. Everything else is either out of state or “small time”.
The only rivalry I know about that comes anywhere close might be Army-Navy. And I don’t really think that one quite makes it.
And in parts of the South, college football ain’t just a sport – it’s a religion. So the Iron Bowl is like the Crusades or the 30 Years War every year. At least for some. (smile)
[quote ROS]What part of “they weren’t yelling it to be patriotic” do you not understand?”[/quote]
The part where any of us who were not there, and proficient in ESP, would be able to make that determination.
OWB, did yo read the context? Or the other posts about the other team bleaching their hair and yelling at them? It’s pretty cut-and-dry.
I went to Oklahoma State, anon. Bedlam against OU every year is INSANE. Families ripped apart, children thrown onto the field, the dead called from the ether, kegs sacrificed – it is UG-LY. Having been raised in both OK and SC, though, I’m going to have to agree with your assessment of the Iron Bowl as I’m fairly certain all border states of Alabama are on lockdown during the game, so driving back home via I-10, -20, or -40 is a no-go that weekend.
Fuck it–I’m just waiting to see what happens at Fenway on Bat Day. I hear the game that day is gonna be against the Yankees.
30,000 people with wooden sticks beating the shit out of each other, but as long as everyone gets one, it’s a fair fight.
NHSparky! You’re a baseball nut? Skankees or BoSox? I’m a Diamondbacks loyalist myself. It’s crazy, inaugural season, season tickets in right field? $800. We just renewed, $1,400!? This is right field, this is 1200+ ft from home plate! More than a dollar a foot although i do have HR balls signed by Luis Gonzales and Randy Johnson!!!
You……Have a ball…..Signed by….. BIG UNIT????
ROS: Bedlam is the one intrastate rivalry that indeed shows promise of getting close one day. Give it 2 or 3 more decades with both teams playing at a high level and it might start to approach the Iron Bowl. But it just ain’t there yet.
By the way: I-40 doesn’t go thru AL. It goes thru TN. (smile).
Yat Yas: a personal reason I had to hate bin Laden (as if nearly 3000 dead fellow countrymen wasn’t already enough): because of travel necessitated by 9/11, I was on the road on the evening of 4 Nov 2011. Yeah – the day of game 7 of the 2001 World Series. The bastard was responsible for me missing it.
I was living in AZ at the time, and had been for over a decade. That Diamondbacks season was one for the ages. I absolutely love baseball, and that bastard caused me to miss what was one of the 3 best WS Game 7s in my lifetime (I was around for Mazeroski’s walk-off in 1960 but was too young to remember it today). I was indeed one happy camper when I read the news last May 2.
May bin Laden spend eternity as Shaytan’s personal sex-slave beyotch.
Anon- I know, that’s why I said states bordering ‘bama. I-40 does go through Tennessee. 🙂
I’m afraid, though, that we’ll not achieve the goal you’ve stated as my beloved Pokes are limited to 3 years of athletic prowess in football before we return to the the OSU of yore. We’ve had our bowl game for the decade; I’m good with that. 😀
I keep seeing where folks are saying both teams were being racist. Lets give credit where its due. Both teams had left the court. It was the kids in the stands. With that being said, alot of things are racist if you have that racist paint brush in your hand ready to paint it as such. I am an anglo in South Texas and have seen both caucasions and hispanics being racist here. Maybe Im desensitized after working in TDCJ for a couple of years and seeing the gangs in there. I dont live in the valley. I have friends that live in Mcallen and have visited many times. I really havent felt much racial discrimination here in S. Texas. I deffinately saw more back home in Arkansas, in Kentucky, in New Mexico, in Alabama, In tennessee and the list goes on. In Alabama members of my old National Guard unit in Kingsville, TX couldnt get service at restaraunt because they were hispanic. They were in uniform mind you. I was training in Oklahoma City and we were walking Bricktown. We were smoking a cigarette on the sidewalk waiting for others in our group to catch up and a older caucasion guy came up to my hispanic friend and handed him his valet ticket and told him to hurry with his car. My buddy wasnt even dressed as a valet. I havent seen anything like that around here. I go shopping in SA quite often. The VA(Audie Murphey and Frank Tejada) is where I go for treatment. They arent in the best part of town and me and my wife shop the little shops in the hispanic neighborhood near there and have been treated with nothing but respect.I lived in SA for three months training to deploy and drank at many latino watering holes with a hispanic friend. I was treated respectfully there. The whole point to that endless rant is that if you are ready to see racism and to be offended, I promise you will see racism and be offended. People are rude no matter what race they… Read more »
ROS: nah, the border states don’t really get into the Iron Bowl all that much other than it’s potential impact on the SEC standings. And during the game might be a really good time to take I-10 or I-20 through Alabama – less traffic. (smile)
Damn, that should have been “its potential impact” above.
Hell, I only meant that they didn’t want the violence from ‘bama to spill over the borders. 😀
And jester, please tell the young man now serving 12 years for pulling a blade on me in front of my house and yelling “Uno Tres” after I stepped in when he called his black girlfriend several derogatory names in reference to both her gender and race before throwing her to the ground in my driveway that things really aren’t that bad down here. You can say people are overreacting all you like and make excuses until you turn into a smurf, but coloring your hair blonde and yelling “Alamo Whites” and responding in turn are both racially motivated actions. The fact that you do what you do and believe otherwise is cause for concern.
The problem is that we now live in a land where the white man does not always get to do what he pleases. In the past they would have been calling us “beaners” or “wetbacks” but they know they can’t get away with that anymore so they hide behind chants of “USA USA” typical of a total lack of courage. Hiding behind the American flag to cover your racism….what a country.
You mean like when they have a soccer game between the US and Mexico in Los Angeles?
And thanks for dragging this one up out of the depths.
If you cannot see the difference between two high schools in San Antonio playing a game and two national teams in a contest, I feel sorry for you. There is a word you need to learn….it is called CONTEXT.
It takes a really, really sick mind to twist pride in one’s country and all her citizens into something racist.
So, tell us Jose, what brought you or your ancestors here? Something different than what brought everyone else and their ancestors here? If it was criminal intent, then you deserve much more than being called silly names.
Since your knowledge of history is so apparently lacking, just so you know, “the white man” has never really been able to do whatever he pleased here either. There have always been laws which everyone was expected to follow.
Perhaps you simply don’t understand the concept of freedom. It doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want to whom whenever and wherever you want to do it. Suggest you read the founding documents to get a handle on all that.
Meanwhile, you are free to get offended by childish name calling. Or the rest of us citizens being proud of our flag, our service, and our fellow veterans without regard to their ancestry.
Uh, Jose – if you really have a problem with the USA, you are quite welcome to cart your useless ass back to where the pastures are greener and nobody looks down on you – don’t let the door hit you in the ass.
Wow, two months and the best you can do is, “we now live in a land where the white man does not always get to do what he pleases”?
Hiding behind the Mexican flag to excuse your racism? La Raza!!!
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Jose,
Are you also condemning the racist chants from the students of the predominantly Hispanic school at the game, or is your outrage solely directed at the “white man”?
ohh nooooooooooooo the pale face must have kept Jose down. as UpNorth said viva la raza???? hehe
When and where has the “white man” been able to do as he pleases?
malclave didn’t you know it can never be racist if its done against the “white man” never ever.