Amber Dawn Brower; phony active duty soldier

| April 16, 2016

Amber Shell

In Pocatello, Idaho, there is a woman by the name of Amber Dawn Brower who has set up a GoFundMe tin cup to take up money from the folks there in order to pay for some of her problems;

My whole life has been turned upside down. 2 days ago my best friend JuNae (who has had some serious issues with unprescribed medication abuse) took $3,000 worth of my business skin care product. When I confronted her and tried to ask for it back, I took a brutal blow to my left eye and blacked out. I woke up this morning in a puddle of blood on my pillow and rushed to the hospital only to find out that I have a severe blow out fracture to my eye socket and I lost half of my vision. There are bone fragments and fat blocking my sinuses resulting in near future surgery. Not only has this affected my vision, but I got a call from the military telling me that I will have to be medically discharged from the Army. This also means that I lose my military housing and will no longer have a place to live. I had to miss out on a business trip to Arizona this weekend resulting in loss of pay and not having any product means my skin care career is also over. I hate asking for help but I need all the help I can get! Anything is appreciated. This fund will go toward an attorney, product to hopefully save my skin care career, and medical expenses. Thank you again!

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I can’t speak to the medical issue, the police tell us that it didn’t go down the way she says, but I can speak to the military-related issues. There is no military housing in Pocatello, Idaho from which she can be booted. Even if the medical issues are true, there’s no way that she’d get a call from the Army telling her she’s getting booted the day the issue was discovered. Oh, by the way, she’s never been in the active duty force, aside from basic training and AIT, according to the National Personnel Records Center. Maiden name is Amber Dawn Shell;

Amber Shell FOIA

Aber Shell Assignments

According to folks at her unit, she was mobilized, but she was returned home for medical reasons and released from her Guard commitment. I don’t mind folks rattling a tin cup, but I do have a problem when they make up stories that don’t make any sense. The folks in Pocatello should give her money if they want to give her money, but they should know the whole story. If she can’t raise money on the merits of her case, she shouldn’t make up stuff.

From Plenty of Fish;

Amber Brower Plenty of Fish

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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The Other Whitey

Are NG personnel even eligible for DoD housing in the first place?

beandogger

If they are in Title 32 or Title 10 status but that is very small percentage of the total NG force.

Pat

Not that it’s the case with this poser, but there were NG recruiters in the stand alone housing units in CT, before BRAC closed them in the late 80s. These were three BR houses previously used for Nike Herc missile site(s) personnel.

CATM

Yes NG are eligible for base housing depending on what orders they are on. Like Beandogger said, it is a small number though. I was one of them for a few years when I was AGR.

Martha Brockway

Boy, people are right the do that our soldiers like crap. I have know Amber for a long time. She is telling the truth. Unbelievable that the bullying that can go on about this! No wonder our country is in trouble.

AskaMarine

Our country is in trouble because of spoiled, self-centered, “poor is me” brats such as Amber Dawn and those who enable her poor behavior, i.e. YOU, “Martha”.

Sooooo, “Martha”…when are you going to donate to her GoFundMe Account?

Hypocrite.

Millennials For Justice

I going ro kiwi no far

Skippy

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thebesig

Martha Brockway: Boy, people are right the do that our soldiers like crap. You do realize that what you, and those that argue on behalf of Amber Dawn Brower, are doing precisely what you limit in that statement? Amber Dawn Brower is no longer in the military, thus, is not a soldier. Martha Brockway: I have know Amber for a long time. She is telling the truth. Yes, you have known Amber Dawn Brower for a long time, and would want to believe that she is telling the truth. The problem is, she isn’t. Again, take a look at the information posted above on this thread, and compare that to the statements that she made. She explicitly stated that she was going to be discharged from the Army for medical reasons, and, by extension, be removed from military housing. The facts, indicated above, show that she is no longer in the military, and that she served in a reserve capacity when she wasn’t, not on regular active duty. The facts indicate that Amber Dawn Brower is, indeed, a phony active-duty service member. She is not telling the truth, despite your refusal to believe that she is lying if she is claiming to still be in the military, and a regular military capacity. This, I would expect from high school students, believing rumor mills because the person that told the rumor was a friend who “wouldn’t” have an agenda. Unlike you, we are not emotionally linked to Amber Dawn Brower in a relationship, friend or otherwise, sense. We can look at this, from a detached position, and see that she is lying. Martha Brockway: Unbelievable that the bullying that can go on about this! Don’t mistake, our holding Amber Dawn Brower accountable for her own statement, as our “bullying” her. It isn’t. All we are doing is pointing out the fact that her statements are inconsistent with official information related to her. As long as you guys keep arguing about this, this will continue to remain active. And, Amber Dawn Brower will continue to get Google hits. Martha Brockway: No wonder… Read more »

CA_SGT

I’ve reported her gofundme and posted a link here in the comments. Anyone else that donates is an idiot.

Reb

CA..BEAT me to it. I believe the brother. Who would know her best. As for the friends posting, we saw it before. Just might be posting by ME, MYSELF & I, just like BELK.

She and Belk should hook up.. DUMB and FAKE = IDIOTS

CA_SGT

She deleted my comment. I may donate a dollar so she cant delete it again. I loathe giving money to liars though.

Still no word from go fund me. Ill message her brother and ask him to report her too.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

She’s updated the page telling the world that JuNae (aka Jackie Snell) is trying to “sabotage me”. Pathetic attempt at damage control

Cacti35

She really rocks the Beret though.

A Proud Infidel®™

Hmmm, mobilized BUT returned home for medical reasons, now she’s shaking a cup while doing the “OH, poor me!” routine. The disagreement the Police with her account of things makes me think that, and I wonder what we’ll find out about her next?

Climb to Glory

Shit. Bag. //Nothing follows

HMCS(FMF) ret.

She’s got the crazee eyes… SARC should be checking her out real soon.

The Other Whitey

I’d rate her a 6.1 at best. According to SARC’s nonexistent standards, however, she’s a perfect 10.

Instinct

I must defend SARC’s honor! He does have standards, they hug to be at least room temperature but pulse is optional.

Instinct

Have.

Stupid phone

Hack Stone

Yeah, blame it on the phone. If you reach out to Daniel Bernath, he can add Apple as a co-defendant in his lawsuit against the airplane manufacturer.

Eden

Yeah, he was using a 99-cent iPad app for an airspeed indicator, so that would stand to reason.

Eden

He lost that lawsuit, BTW.

FatCircles0311

This digital pan handling shit grinds my gears.

HMC Ret

Yep, I don’t trust any of them.

Cpl/Major Mike

I think Hillary has found her running mate.

A Proud Infidel®™

“Don’t go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.” – Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)

I wonder what percentage of today’s kids would soil themselves and demand a “safe place” to go and bawl while they pick their noses after having that said to them?

UpNorth

Mr. Clemens wouldn’t be allowed on most college campuses today.

Ncat

True. A lot of libraries have removed or tried to remove his finest work. The racial language may offend someone!

CCO

Who typed that up? Why would her pay grade be “Specialist Four Class,” but then again what was 54B is now MOS 74D, so plus meme change, plus meme same, I guess.

SFC D

You’re right. It should read SPC. Ain’t no Specialist Fourth Class anymore. Went away in the mid-eighties.

Some guy

You’ll laugh, but when I was improcessed at fort benning for bct, they entered me as SP4. That was in late 2014. I guess it just takes a while for everyone to get the memo. 😉

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Finally!! An ate up NBC puke. I was beginning to wonder…

Claw

Yeah. And that goofy smile of hers makes me think she’s been nipping the sacramental fog oil a bit too much.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

FWIW, I still have a couple of old green wool blankets that smell like that stuff.
When I was a Squad Leader in a Smoke Company at Carson, one of my Soldiers put a quart of that green cap in his car engine. He gave the command “make smoke” a whole new meaning.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Crap not cap….

Li Right

Ahhh……many nice memories of Carson with the then, 12th ACR (66-67) – have a son there now.

The western views aren’t too shabby.

CATM

“Not only has this affected my vision, but I got a call from the military telling me that I will have to be medically discharged from the Army.”

Ahahahahahahaha BULLSHIT!!!!!!
I’m one of those lovely people that was Medboarded out, guess what? I didn’t get no fucking call the day after the doc botched his procedure. I got 3, count them THREE YEARS of appointments, talking to the PEBLO, and even more surgeries to see if I could stay in. One, this bitch is full of fucking goatshit. Two, IF this was true, the entire time the medboard process is going on she would still be in the Army getting all the bennies that go with it. The process is not fast by any means. So this cockgoblin can go wash her mouth out with buckshot, poser fuck.

Jon The Mechanic

That makes two of us.

Returned home from deployment end of 2012, my medical retirement didn’t come down for almost 2 1/2 years.

Anyone who believes otherwise also believes in unicorns and rainbows that shower us with skittles.

B

Is there a reason you have to be so ignorant? The length you went to with the name calling is very unnecessary.

Snotcrow

Absolutely not B.

If one lies about your military history, it becomes all our business. only civilians believe that the Army would react this fast, without any paperwork (ps the Army loves paperwork). plus you do not get a phone call, but even if she did – it would be absolutely unrelated.

CATM

Ignorant? As someone who ACTULLY went through the Medboard process (the ONLY way to be medically discharged from the military) I think I’m pretty knowledgeable in the subject. As for the name calling, well all I have to say is you ain’t seen nothing yet. She is a poser using the very uniform that many true HERO’s have died wearing, to scam a few bucks off the uninformed. Gotta say that strikes a pretty raw nerve with me, and I can say with confidence that most of the Vets here feel the same way.

Skippy

So is it me or what but she didn’t BCT or AIT ???? it’s not on her assignment sheet
also if she is NBC wouldn’t the be fort lost in the woods ????
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and on the flip side what a way to trash a good service record

Skippy

Spelling is WAY OFF today Lol…..

nbcguy54ACTUAL

It shows her going to IADT from Nov 06 to Jul 07. I assume that was her BCT and AIT. The clerk just typed in order numbers instead of duty station. Odd.

Skippy

Odd it is…..

Usafvet509

Just saw this. Looked at her page, and so far, crickets from her. I see 2 challenges to her version, and…..crickets. Golf Foxtrot Yankee, BOLO

anonymous

This is her father, she has not replied because she has way bigger things to worry about than ignorant dumbasses that thrill off of humiliating other people without knowing the full story instead of worrying about their own fucked up lives. My daughter is on HudVash and works for the military under a clearance. She is non confrontational and the sad thing is that if you apologized to her, she would forgive you sons of bitches!

thebesig

Amber Dawn Brower’s Dad: This is her father, A foreshadowing of a “defensive” post defending Amber Dawn Brower’s actions. Amber Dawn Brower’s Dad: she has not replied She hasn’t replied because she knows she’ll get her azz handed to her for being blatantly wrong in some of the things that she is claiming. Amber Dawn Brower’s Dad: because she has way bigger things to worry about Yes, like coming up with the BS story about receiving the call informing her that she will be chaptered out of the military with a medical discharge. I mean, if she were on active duty, how could she be going on all these trips involve the skincare lotions? The information above indicated she was discharged from the National Guard, Utah. She is out of the military’s hands. It’s clear that she lied on that page. Amber Dawn Brower’s Dad: than ignorant dumbasses that thrill off of humiliating other people without knowing the full story instead of worrying about their own fucked up lives. Actually, the information posted above is all we need. There is a contradiction between what has been received regarding her military service, as well as her claims. There are inconsistencies. These inconsistencies are what has led to our making the comments here that we have made so far. Do not mistake our refusing to listen to your nonsense, or hers, as our being “ignorant”. The fact of the matter is that she, Amber Dawn Brower, has implied that her “current” military service is “about to expire” due to a “medical” cause. When somebody does something like this, we enjoy the thrill of making them tap dance. Amber Dawn Brower’s Dad: My daughter is on HudVash and works for the military under a clearance. I’m sorry, that is not military housing. When someone says “military housing”, the veteran community is going to understand that to mean “on post housing”. Another interpretation, that this would be housing for military personnel, current military personnel. Working for the military, as a civilian with a clearance, is not “being in the military” in the “uniformed military”… Read more »

MrBill

If she was working for the military as a civilian, she’d have sick leave. She would not be fired – by way of a phone call – a day or two after sustaining an injury.

Also, if she was working for the military as a civilian, and she lost her job, she would be laid off, or let go, or fired. She would not be “medically discharged from the Army”. That term is used for Soldiers, not civilian employees.

Losing a civilian job is not being “medically discharged from the Army.” HUD-VASH is not “military housing”. And it’s hard to believe that she could lose either, in a couple days’ time, as the result of being assaulted. Even if there’s some truth to what she says, at the very least it sounds as if she’s trying to distort the truth in order to make her story more sympathetic.

Skippy

So let me get this right my life is not FUCKED UP… 🙂 🙂 🙂
But one thing pisses me off more then anything else and that Stolen Valor, and one who embellishes Their service to screw people out of there hard earned money, I have plenty of battles including myself who have almost given our lives serving our country. I’m sure her two weeks doing ADT overseas and her one weekend a month was hard, I served some time in the guard and active duty. she has no right lying about her service to screw people, she should try telling the truth first, it’s obvious she wasn’t taught good moral standards growing up so maybe you should look in the mirror and maybe you can start helping her fix her issues because you did something wrong

The Other Whitey

Sorry, Pops. But she’s a liar. And her meds do not give her a free pass to mislead people.

I can understand your desire to protect your daughter. I’m a father myself. But it seems that you have failed her. You failed your daughter by not teaching her honesty and integrity. And you fail her again by trying to shield her from the consequences of her misdeeds.

This site is dedicated to (among other things) calling out liars. She put herself on TAH’s radar.

CA_SGT

I got confirmation from the brother. “Anonymous” is not her dad.

Snotcrow

But of course it isn’t… but appreciate the confirmation.

Jarhead

Anonymous…careful what you call people. Now I D Sarc may have banged your moma, but not me unless she was working those days in Tijuana servicing a bunch of crazy Marines. Now that I think of it, your moma wasn’t “Lulu” by any chance? Best I recall she was a major consumer of grape jelly flavored douche. If you say I’m her son, then so be it. I just hope my real Daddy wasn’t a German Shepherd.

Hack Stone

So, she’s available?

Usafvet509

Hahahahahahaha, I’da expected Sarc to ask that. LMAO

Bobo

She transferred from the Idaho NG to the Utah NG. Any paperwork from Utah on when she left there?

Skippy

Bobo I’m going to send Jonn a msg in a few

GEORGE Nothing, really.

No, not report, I meant to hit ‘reply’!

Sorry!

Jarhead

Another Hellofawoman. If your skin product is so damned good, why don’t you use it to heal yourself? Ya bullshit poser..go get a training bra. Dumbass, you couldn’t even sweep floors at Hooters! What’s on that shirt your bud is wearing? Does it say “Dyke” by any chance? You need a hug Poser byitch.
On a scale of 1-10, your believability factor is minus 83.

Claw

A defender just popped up on her GoFundMe page.

Hang Ten

yep i seen the same comment also and she’s deleted the comments off her facebook page that the guys posted with this page link. there is no off base housing for part time soldiers in her city.

Hang Ten

and now all the comments are gone off the gofundme page

Usafvet509

aaaannnd, she’s gone. Bye, Felicia!

Claw

Yep, she knows the jig is up.

Buh Bye !!

Claw

Probably went over to the Pocatello VFW Post to hang out with the Post Commander, Dick(less) Hollingsworth, the Infantry Helicopter Mechanic.

Two peas in a pod. She’s probably serving up watered down drinks and cold pizza while Dickie serves up the Bovine Fecal Matter.

CA_SGT

I donated (hate doing it) just so I could post a warning and a link to this page. She can’t delete comments from donors so maybe I’ll save someone else from doing so.

AskaMarine

Thumbs Up to you, CA_SGT for doing this!

AskaMarine

She deleted your comment which means she knows SHE IS GUILTY OF FRAUD AND IS A BOLD FACE LIAR.

Anyway you can get your $$$ back?

Amber Dawn: BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. You probably were discharged from the Army for a MENTAL condition/Personality Disorder. So glad the Army got rid of you.

Amber Dawn,YOU ARE AN UNFIT MOTHER, lying, cheating, stealing. The Internet is forever. Oneday, your kids will see what a FRAUD you are and heaven forbid they follow your lead.

CA_SGT

Its works out in my favor. If anything it solidies the fraud charge through gofundme. But now that I’m a victim and out some money, I’m callimg the police dept in her home town to file theft by deception charges.

raynman

This is the proper way to do things. Bravo. Anyone reporting her otherwise doesn’t have legal standing. Also, she qualifies for the “Stolen Valor” charge because she is specifically using her claim of military service to solicit funds.

anonymous

This female is on HudVash which is technically military housing, She is going through some horrible rediculous things. Her gofundme page is to raise money for her business that was tarnished and for medical bills. She does also work for the military under a clearance. Until you get your facts completely straight, I suggest you remove this blog before you tarnish her reputation even more. This has been reported to the Utah NG Headquarters.

Skippy

Play Stupid Games !!!!!!! Win Stupid Prizes !!!!!!!
Lies never work. If you would like please tell the marshmallow man too
This post is a typical response from one who is full of shit
Bring it on…

Animal

I’m kind of curious about what kind of clearance she is working under. Please say it is some kind of security clearance. That would put this whole thing into afterburners.

Snotcrow

I have been thinking about this too… what kind of fucked up lingo is that? “Working under a clearance.”

Just An Old Dog

Maybe she works under a “Clarence”… just saying.

sj

“This has been reported to the Utah NG Headquarters.”

Awww shit Jonn. This is going to be bad. You’ve never faced this before. Utah NG Bureau on your case? Damn. Her lawyer might be Bernasty.

Mike W

DB Just remember to check the fuel level BEFORE you takeoff. Oh and leave the dog at home

thebesig

Amber Dawn Brower’s Sock Puppet: This female is on HudVash which is technically military housing, No, it isn’t. Military housing is for housing military personnel. Not veterans. HUD VASH is there to house qualified veterans. Amber Dawn Brower would know the difference, and would have stated such in her go fund me page. This entire statement contradicts the thrust of your argument: Originally posted by Amber Dawn Brower: but I got a call from the military telling me that I will have to be medically discharged from the Army. This also means that I lose my military housing and will no longer have a place to live. This is a clear statement that she is still serving in the military, as a member of the Armed Forces, and that she is living in military housing as a result. Nowhere in there did she states that she was staying in “HUD VASH”. This isn’t something that we are taking and twisting, these are her own words. The freedom of information request results indicate that she has already been released from the National Guard. She served in a reserve capacity, with the exception of Initial Active Duty for Training, and part of a mobilization, that she took part in. This is the crux behind why she is getting hammered on this thread. This is also the crux behind why she has a thread dedicated to her. Amber Dawn Brower’s Sock Puppet: She is going through some horrible rediculous things. Her gofundme page is to raise money for her business that was tarnished and for medical bills. Had she been honest, on her go fund me page, regarding her military status, many of those said “horrible ridiculous things”, would not be occurring. We are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, and go by the story that she had been assaulted as a result of confronting somebody that had taken her skincare products. A story built on that, while identifying Amber Dawn as a former member of the military would not have led to this kind of attention and additional “ridiculous… Read more »

thebesig

I Don’t blame you. :mrgreen: The above documentation is clear cut. That, matched to what she said in her gofundme, also included above, shows a contradiction that she has to reconcile. The posts made here, in her favor by an anonymous poster, don’t clear those differences up.

MrBill

I didn’t see your excellent post before I made mine a few minutes later.

One other thing: I did not find an “Amber Brower” or “Amber Snell” on the DoD Global e-mail system. If she was in the military in any capacity – including as a civilian employee – she’d be there. I did, however, find SPC Amber Dawn Brower in the Army White Pges, with status noted to be “veteran” – which is fully consistent with the FOIA results.

MrBill

Or “Amber Shell”, I meant to say.

thebesig

I did the same thing, she doesn’t show up on the Enterprise address book, either as a service member or as a civilian working for the military. Also, a search of the white pages, on HRC portal, shows her as a veteran, SPC, so she’s not currently in, as she implied in her gofundme. This contributed to the above post. :mrgreen:

I look forward to seeing your post, she deserves a multiple analysis. :mrgreen:

Usafvet509

GFY, anon, GFY

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Hey Daddy… we’ve all worked under a clearance while in the military at some time in our careers, dipshit. Your little girl couldn’t make it through a deployment and they RELEASED her from the Guard. She’s playing the “poor down on her luck veteran” card for some sympathy… and the milblogs will make sure that she’s outed for a long time.

BTW – the military doesn’t kick people out with ongoing medical issues – she would be extended on active duty to get her well, then she’d be discharged.

raynman

No. Her reputation is tarnished. She lies. You lie to protect her so you place your reputation at the same risk.

I could care less of her claims of theft and assault. It is her claim that she is currently in the military that offends me personally. This is a lie.

Her FOIA release clearly indicates she was discharged 3 years ago. The POF dating profile she linked claims she’s a 12-year veteran and that her husband left her while she was deployed.

Her pictures…including the kids she apparently took with her on deployment suggest this is also a lie.

You’re trying to play “White Knight” here for unknown reasons. I suspect you’re more likely the person we’re talking about than one of her supporters.

You’re a worm. Crawl away and die.

sj

Maybe the root of her problem is that her parents named her “Amber Dawn”.

Hondo

At least they didn’t name her “Odyssey Dawn”. (smile)

Claw

Probably. “Red Dawn” would have been a bit more effective.

But her supposed Sockpuppet father referred to her as “this female”, so I’m guessing her name is not real important to him.

Hack Stone

Delta Dawn?

AskaMarine

How about Dawn Detergent…with BLEACH…as in “Who Bleached her hair”..

Millennials For Justice

That’s No Fair !!!!!!
How About—– Deep Throat Dawn ——
Now that’s fair

Hondo

Brower: lady, do yourself a favor and cut the crap. Some of the people commenting had enough time in uniform to retire from the military before you first joined. You’re not going to fool this group with some kind of bogus “shaggy dog story”.

If you persist with your bogus claims and questionable fundraising activities, the possibility that your local LE may become interested in you regarding possible fraud comes into play. You already seem to be on their radar for other reasons, so at this point you really should simply STFU and do everything you can to blend into your surroundings.

Airdale (AW) USN

Nothing like good reading in the morning :).
Amber Dawn Brower’s Sock Puppet- A lot of Vet’s know what’s going on!! Make it easy on yourself and her and give up the game!!

OWB

Bad enough that this ignorant person makes false claims, but some fool comes here acting like we REAL veterans with several bazillion years of service between us should just go, “Oh, well, she has such a sad life that we should overlook her unfounded claims?”

Not gonna happen. You stray into our lane and you can expect to be told to get outta our lane, clearly and succinctly. In words easy to pronounce and to understand.

This gal is lying about her military service. Apparently she is hoping that her lies will garner her more sympathy than she has earned. We here are not going to quietly allow those lies to go unanswered.

Whatever other sock puppets are out there, you’d better bring your A-game if you plan to face off with this crowd of real veterans.

Airdale (AW) USN

Yep!! What you said!!!

Claw

Kudos go out to the TAH Admin for the quick turnaround on obtaining an FOIA on this LSoS.

Is two days a new record?

Just An Old Dog

For the facebook fans of this mug-whump. No doubt she has issues and is struggling. The nail in the turd coffin is he saying she is now struggling because the Army basically just fucked her over and discharged he, cut her medical care and pushed her out of housing.
That is a flat out lie. She has been out of the service since November 2014.
Any tale of woe she has resulted from actions since then.
When these pathetic skanks rattle thier tin-cups and flap their gums about how the Army screwed them over they are disparging not only the service, but the thousands of enlisted and commissioned officers, as well as Veterans Organizations members who go out of their way to help service members and veterans in need.
Every one who has been suckered into helping this mug-wump under these false pretenses now will go running their suck-hole about how screwed up the Army is.
Heres a hint for you scammette. Try getting a real job instead of pyramid scammer beauty products.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Her brother just dimed her ass out in the FB comments section…

Pretty bad when family backs up what is presented for all to see here!

Millennials For Justice

You have no idea how hard it is being a JACK MORMON
just because we like to rip people off doesn’t make us bad !!!!!!
I’m telling the Utah Guard
wah wah wah wah wah wah !!!!!!!!

Silentium Est Aureum

Huh. I spent a significant portion of my childhood in SE Idaho, was stationed in Idaho Falls (yes, there was Navy there then) and there sure as hell wasn’t any military housing between Pocatello, Idaho Falls, Blackfoot, or anywhere else in that area.

Mountain Home was the closest base, but that was about 2 hours west.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Use to stop off in Pocatello when I was a Medical Officer Recruiter and visited the recruiting station and ISU. Last time I was there, I picked up a book that they had in the regional airport about the history of the Airport – during WWII, it was a AAF base then.

C2Show

I was at Mountain Home myself, I use to go to Pocatello…god knows why. But there is no housing out that way or at Idaho Falls or American falls or whatever its called. The guard there seem few and very little. Seemed most people wanted to get jobs at Gowan Field in Boise.

I use to hate dealing with chicks from Pocatello, always shady.

Jarhead

Daddy Gainey…Bravo for coming to the rescue of another war hero. Going back to the top of this page has me confused. 1. Her best friend JuNae took $3 K worth of skin care product from her….What the hell is she, a leper? 2. Her own brother spills the beans on her and says she is a liar. Fairly persuasive statement from her own blood. 3. Her neighbor plays the Mrs Gainey role and proves that Forrest Gump had a sister named Special Ed.

AskaMarine

LIKE…^^^^

Wish we had our own Gainey Cup Tournament. Would nominate her Daddy right away (that is, IF that was her Daddy that is enabling her behavior).

What a fine example this girl is setting for her kids.

Pitiful. Just Pitiful.

The Al

I’m going with anonymous is not really her father, since I doubt her father would refer to her as “this female”.

A brother

Do you think that if she is able to pull of such a lie, that maybe this so called “father” is the one really commenting here? Before we all continue to bash the father, let’s take a step back and think. The father commenter could be Amber. Let’s not lower ourselves to far here k?? The father is a great guy. So let’s leave him out of this. This whole situation is an embarrassment. No one knows why amber chooses to inflate things like she does. But let’s not bash the family.

AskaMarine

Don’t see how her “father” is being bashed.

Amber Dawn was the one who dragged her “father” here.

Am assuming you know the “father” since you said he is a great guy. You may want to give him heads up that his “daughter” is using him to defend her lies.

The Al

Considering that my post said that I doubted anonymous- whose first post started with “this is her father”- was really her father, I fail to see where I’m dragging her father into this.

Martha Brockway

You guys should all be ashamed. This country was founded on, freedom of religion and being innocent until proven quilts. Not the other way around. I have known Amber for years. She wouldn’t make this up, no wonder our country has gone down hill.

AskaMarine

“Martha” Explain her Military records posted on here if she is not lying.

YOU should be ashamed for enabling her behavior. And if you believe in her so much, why don’t you just give her the entire $$$ amount she is asking for?

You should feel sorry for her kids. They have a Mother who has mental issues, one of them being a liar.

Jarhead

Martha….PULLEEEZZZEEEE!!!!! We all know George could never tell a lie, but this Amber wouldn’t know the difference between a cherry tree and Mayonnaise bush.
Any of the key players in this outing have reached the upper tier of G E D ? You write innocent until proving quilts. Did you mean innocent until crocheting quilts?
So you claim her not being able to sell her con is the reason our country has gone down hill. Betcha O B is glad to know it’s more than just Jimmy Carter and him now.
Tell us, have you also known the Tooth Fairy and Santa for years?

Just An Old Dog

I’m sure what she tries to pass off as a “cherry tree” ends up being a “Mayonnaise bush” by the end of the night on many occasions.

Jarhead

As in “sloppy 7th’s” ?

Claw

What makes you think the commenters here are all “guys?”

You haven’t seen anything until the Lionesses show up.

Animal

Indeed.

2/17 Air Cav

Dear God in Heaven, please say that you don’t vote.

thebesig

Martha Brockway: You guys should all be ashamed. We know exactly what we are doing, and we are proud of what we do. There’s no need for us to be ashamed, as the facts are on our side. I have yet to see, one of her defenders, reconcile the differences between her claims and the above records. Also, searches that we have, on databases that would tell us whether she is still in or not, support the above documentations. We are arguing from the facts, those that should be ashamed include Amber Dawn Brower and those that defend her. Martha Brockway: This country was founded on, freedom of religion and being innocent until proven quilts. Not the other way around. It has been founded on many things, yes. As far as the “innocent until proven guilty”. Well, she has been proven guilty here. The above documentations say one thing, where she said something else. We are calling her out on the fact that official documentations state that she is no longer in the military despite her insinuations that she is still on active duty. Martha Brockway: I have known Amber for years. She wouldn’t make this up, This tells us one of two things. One, you are automatically going to be biased toward her as you know her. Two, you would have to see the above documentations and know that you have been taken for a fool. Naturally, you wish that what she told you was the truth, as if Amber Dawn Brower would have every reason in the world tell you the complete truth about everything, or most things. We know otherwise. She lied to you and to everybody else when she insinuated that she was still on active duty. Martha Brockway: no wonder our country has gone down hill. Yes, it has gone downhill but not for what you state. It has gone downhill because people like you believe any nonsense force-fed to you without question. Those of us here, calling Amber Dawn Brower out, are fighting against those who are actually bringing this country down. People simply… Read more »

Martha Brockway

*GUILTY, IT SHOULD BE PROVEN INNOCENT until proven guilty. This is so sad, and then all the bullying that has go on. If you don’t care, then pass this by, if you do care, help out. It’sucks really that simple.

AskaMarine

PROVE THAT SHE IS INNOCENT.

So far, I see proof that she is guilty of LYING, EMBELLISHING.

Look at her Military records. Explain the housing situation. Since you know her so well, please share with us as to why she had to leave the Army.

OWB

So what’s your point? She has been proven to be a liar. She lied about her military service, and apparently continues to lie about her military service.

Really – it IS that simple.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Where’s your donation on GoFundMe, Martha????

Your gal pal got dimed out by her own brother as a manipulator and liar, for goodness sake.

A foole & his money,
be soone at debate:
which after with sorow,
repents him to late.

http://www.knowyourphrase.com/phrase-meanings/fool-and-his-money-are-soon-parted.html

Hondo

“Innocent until proven guilty” is true in a court of law. In everyday life, people aren’t required to apply that standard. They’re free to make up their own minds.

And, for what it’s worth: the evidence presented above clearly states that the lady was discharged from the military in November 2013. “Discharged” means “has no further connection with the military.”

That means she’s been out of the military for close to 2 1/2 years. So if she’s claiming to be “facing discharge” now – and she certainly seems to be making that claim – unless she’s reenlisted it seems to me that proves she’s lying.

So, Ms. Brockway: unless you’ve got proof she’s currently serving – and I mean independently-verifiable proof, not something you get from Brower herself – you need to pull your head out of the sand, then “wake up and smell the coffee”. Because you’ve been “had”.

Jarhead

Martha…..Your komand of the Inglish langwege jist amazzes me. Let me gess…you ar a koleege profeser sumwhar. “It’s sucks really that simple”; would that be the same as “It is a shame that my friend sux at complicated shcemes”?

HMCS(FMF) ret.

That RIF (Reading Is Fundamental) thing didn’t stick with “Martha”…

2/17 Air Cav

I’m sorry that you thought it necessary to correct yourself. Based on your other comments, quilts was just fine.

Millennials For Justice

Martha…
Spoken like a true enabler
please keep empowering her energy to screw more people over

thebesig

Martha Brockway: *GUILTY, IT SHOULD BE PROVEN INNOCENT until proven guilty. Actually, as you implied above, it should be innocent until proven guilty, not “proven” innocent until “proven” guilty. The basic idea is that as a suspect is given due process of the law, he is presumed innocent until proven guilty. You don’t necessarily have to consistently prove innocence in a case of someone suspected of committing a crime. The state has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the person is guilty. Although “proving” innocence is the best strategy to argue against the state’s attempt to prove guilt, the defense could also go out of its way to cast serious doubt in the prosecution’s case. Hence, one of the concepts that leads to being, or being presumed to be, innocent until proven guilty. Again, in this case, Amber Dawn Brower’s statements, when compared to the documented facts involving her military service, show a contradiction. Amber Dawn Brower is who we are describing her as being. Just look at the contradictions above and with Amber Dawn Brower’s statements to see for yourself that Amber Dawn Brower is “not innocent” of claiming to be on active duty still when she had been discharged from a reserve component with no continuation of service or no follow on contract. Martha Brockway: This is so sad, and then all the bullying that has go on. If you don’t care, then pass this by, if you do care, help out. It’sucks really that simple. No, what is sad is that people like Amber Dawn Brower, you, and others who argue on her side of the argument here, without even examining the merits of the facts. Amber Dawn Brower claimed, or rather insinuated, that she was on active duty with the Army, that she was living in military housing, and that she stood to lose those simply on an alleged phone call. Those of us, who have been on active duty, know for fact that her statements are not consistent with how things are done. For example, a service-member would not get a phone call, informing… Read more »

Airdale (AW) USN

You must not been reading, she is lying and you got baited!! Sorry but the facts are here. Amber Shell FOIA is up above if you wish to look at them.

Hang Ten

ok who was that, that donated $5 to her, isn’t that the same individual that commented on her page or was that just for laughs

AskaMarine

It’s not “Martha Crawford”, her Enabler.

Martha Crawford’s name is not on Amber Dawn’s GoFundMe page.

“Martha Crawford” is a hypocrite, preaching on TAH about that little girl being innocent.

“Martha Crawford”is probably Amber Dawn.

Say, has anyone seen a Police Report about poor Amber Dawn being trashed by her Ex-Friend?

Poor Amber Dawn. NOT. Feel for her kids. They are the victims here.

AskaMarine

Martha BROCKWAY, not Martha CRAWFORD.

My bad.

Don’t see Martha Brockway’s name on Amber Dawn’s Go FundMe page.

Want to explain that, “MARTHA”?

CA_SGT

Martha’s a facebook friend of Amber’s, not a sock puppet. I sent all of Amber’s friends list messages linking to this page. Things should get interesting.

CA_SGT

I donated the $5.00 and yes I also commented on her go fund me twice (under general comments and when I donated) and she deleted both.

I have reported the gofundme as fraud (you should do the same) and filed a police report for theft by deception in her home town (I was told a detective would call me tomorrow).

B. Johnson

and for your information the person that posted above saying that she is in the Idaho National Guard, um no she is not in the Idaho Guard either that was already checked with the Idaho National Guard Recruiters

AskaMarine

The person who posted was probably Amber Dawn.

Mutiple Personality Disorder.

Don’t see any of her “defenders” donating to her GoFundMe page to include her “Daddy”.

Give it up, Amber Dawn. You are a Manipulator, a Liar, a Con Artist, a Deceiver, a Thief playing the Victim.

How DARE you still depict yourself as a Soldier in the US Army.

You are not a Mother. You don’t care about your children. All Amber Dawn cares about is Amber Dawn.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Here’s another social media site where she claims she’s a Soldier:

https://www.chirpler.com/u/249472649bd08ce8619b42386d7454b6d67d90d8052329c4/amber-brower

AskaMarine

Saw that.

Let’s see how fast she takes this site down as well, which again is a sign of GUILT.

Good Lord, Almighty…who BLEACHED her hair? And those eyebrows.

Big turn-off for me.

B. Johnson

check her out on plenty of fish under Abrower

“show me a real, serious guy! Chubbuck, Idaho
I am a 30 year old single mother of 2 beautiful children. A boy 6, and a girl 4. They are my life and the only reason I keep going sometimes! I have served in the U.S. army for 12 years and have trave
ABrower 30 FSM – Long term

Jarhead

Whooooaaa! Nothing makes me hotter than a bleached blonde with the painted on carnie eyebrows and Daddy longlegs sitting behind her flashing the peace sign. Women that special need to be working the pole in a Gentlemen’s Club. Put a G String on that puppy and she can hog tie me to the bed and make me talk dirty! I want to see her in a uniform while she stuffs one of those Pulp Fiction rubber balls down Bernasty’s mouth. Now if I can just get her to take her clothes off and bark like a dog, I’m gonna roll over and play dead. Always have been a sucker for Trashy Women who lie their ass off. Confederate Railroad had it right….”I know Dad, ain’t she cool?”

20thEB67

Jarhead, you got it all working today. This, and your comment above had me belly-laughing like an idiot. Good stuff right there!

Winner of the interwebs for the day.

2/17 Air Cav

There is a way for women, even unattractive women, to a make a few bucks quickly. I don’t know whether Amber/Martha has tried it but it has stood the test of time: babysitting. (What did you think I was going to say?)

AskaMarine

Well, for starters, she could get a frickin job…on her own two feet.

“Would you like Fries with that?”

It’s obvious her “Beauty” products did not work on her.

Millennials For Justice

what’s wrong with them going down the road to Nevada and working in a brothel ????
Your so unfair ! ! ! does it always have to be baby sitting why not a cat house !!!!!!
I’m telling the Utah Guard…
take that

thebesig

Don’t giver her any ideas. :mrgreen: We might end up having an “Army Guard Amber” popping up there. :mrgreen:

Skippy

BHWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ^^^^^^^^
?????????????

B. Johnson

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=112354889

Says she served for 12 years and deployed to Iraq

AskaMarine

To All of Amber Dawn’s Enablers:

Care to comment about another LIE she told?

12 Years in the Army? Iraq? WHERE in Iraq, Amber Dawn?

Where is your Good Conduct Medal, Amber Dawn? Or your Iraq Campaign Medal?

Amber Dawn is a DISGRACE to our country, to the United States Army, to her children and to all proessional beauticians (bet the carpet does not match the drape).

Sandman

I looked at the PoF profile, it says US soldier/ veteran now.

B.johnson

We have the screenshots

CA_SGT

I filed an extensive fraud report (as a donor) on gofundme. I encourage everyone to do the same (the more reports filed the more likely they are to remove it). You do not need to donate to file a fraud report.

Also they recommended I contact law enforcement. I filed a theft by deception report with the Pocatello, ID police department and was told a detective in the investigations department would be contacting me tomorrow. Since she has raised an excess of $500.00 it’s puts this in the felony range.

spd0302

Just completed a fraud report with gofundme and linked it to this page. I cannot stand crap like this.

spd0302

Auto reply from gofundme…

“Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Our Trust & Safety team will be investigating the page and taking appropriate action. Please note that:

1. We will not be able to disclose any details about an ongoing investigation.
2. Personal disputes between two parties will be ignored and should be settled with law enforcement.
3. Your personal information will be kept confidential from the Campaign Organizer.

In addition to the report you have submitted to us, we encourage you to contact law enforcement officials in your area if you believe this user is committing fraud or breaking the law in any way.

Our team will respond if we have any further questions. While every report will be reviewed, we cannot respond to every complaint.

Regards,

GoFundMe Trust and Safety Team”

Skippy

Well it’s hurry up and wait ?????

Jay

Lol at all this hate. The Internet never ceases to amaze. The quality of people who troll boards like these only makes it seem more legit.

Does tearing down some random person you don’t even know or will never meet help you sleep at night?

Are we back to grade school bullying tactics? You guys are great!! Keep it up. Hah

Also as far as reporting it. Hope that helps you feel better because there was nothing illegal or against gofundme tos in place. People stretch the truth all the time. She is not scamming anyone. Yes it seems there is some dishonesty, but there is nothing against the rules there.

Silly Internet

spd0302

What is considered fraud on GoFundMe?
A campaign organizer may be committing fraud if:
They are intentionally including factually incorrect information on their campaign.
They have not used the funds that were raised for the stated purpose within a reasonable amount of time.
They are impersonating someone else or have copied a campaign that already exists on GoFundMe.

Jay

Key word is intentionally. Which is subjective. Again I believe you’re wasting your time.

spd0302

So, this shitbird accidently wrote in her gofundme campaign that she was called on the phone by the Army and told she was being medically discharged?

Reporting fraud is not a waste of time. Identifying a lying sack of shit so she cannot fool others is never a waste of time.

I am guessing Jay, that you are either Amber in sock puppet mode, or you are the poor sap that Amber leads on. Either way, I feel sorry for you.

thebesig

Jay: Key word is intentionally. Which is subjective.

Wrong, again:

“You, as a Campaign Organizer, represent, warrant, and covenant that all information you provide in connection with a Campaign is accurate, complete, and not otherwise designed to mislead, defraud or deceive any user;” – gofundme

Keywords applicable to Amber Dawn Brower:

All information
is accurate, complete
not otherwise designed to mislead

This ins’t subjective, but objective. She clearly included information, on hercampaign, that is not accurate. However, the fact that she would include that is clear regarding her intentions. She is trying to obtain the sympathy, from society, that they would give to someone in the military, or a veteran. She is playing on that appreciation.

People donating to her would more than likely think that they are currently donating to a current service-member. That’s misleading.

Jay: Again I believe you’re wasting your time.

What is it to you if someone is “wasting their time”? The cold hard reality is they are not. They are saying things that has caused you to reply to them. Obviously, since you replied to them, they are not wasting time. We love it when people like you, and others, come on here and try to argue a case that is clearly proven wrong by the documentation shown on top of this thread.

This is entertaining.

Jay

the word intentionally is hard to prove my friend

CA_SGT

Not really. The fact that she included being called about being medically discharged by the Army, when she hasn’t been in the Army for years, pretty much puts the nail in the coffin on her intent to decieve.

MrBill

If you are mentally competent, you ought to know if you’re in the Army, or not. She was discharged in 2013. In April 2016, she represented that she was still in the Army (about to be medically discharged), and living in military housing – neither of which is true. In this case, “intentionally” seems pretty clear-cut. It’s hard to reconcile her statements with the facts, unless you’re going to claim that she is so out of touch with reality that she honestly believed her statements to be true.

2/17 Air Cav

It’s not at all hard to prove. Intent is usually inferred from what one does or fails to do. And there is a good reason for that. Rare is the person who declares his intention to do something wrongful and then goes and does it.

thebesig

Originally posted by Jay:

the word intentionally is hard to prove my friend

Wrong, the “word” that you are trying to make this about is nothing more than a strawman argument. This isn’t about what you think it is, but about the fact that she made a claim that is clearly wrong. She made this on her gofundme page in clear violation of its terms.

Fact: she insinuated that she was currently on active duty, and was about to lose that and all the associated benefits. Fact: her claim is false, and she was discharged from a reserve component prior to this date, as indicated in the above documentations.

You need to argue the actual argument, and not the one that you’re trying to argue. Quit building those strawmen.

AskaMarine

Then why are you here, Amber?

Your lies and tactics are not going to work.

Grow up, get a job, spend time with your children, start practicing “Christianity” (telling the truth) and quit bleaching your hair, wearing false eyelashes and Groncho Marx eyebrows.

CA_SGT

Since I’m out money due to her “stretching the truth” I’m sure the Pocatello Police Dept and myself will see things a little bit differently.

Jay

Lol. You chose out of your own doing to donate money because you wanted to try to force a comment on her page. That had nothing to do with her “fooling” you in to doing it. It had everything to do with you being illiterate. Again, good luck

CA_SGT

The funny thing about “Theft by Deception”, Jay, is there doesn’t have to be a victim for charges to go forward. Also, my intention (which in your own words is hard to prove) doesn’t matter. Fraud is fraud, under the legal sense of the word and the fact that my money was obtained by a fraudulent campaign legitimately makes me a victim in all this (which since donations now exceed $500.00 is a felony)

It’s not my first time dealing with this kind of issue, though, but your well wishes are appreciated.

Jay

It’s not hard to prove when you wrote it a few comments up buddy.

I’m not defending the possibility of dishonesty. Let me be clear. I just feel that it seems the point of this thread (or the direction it’s going anyways) is to try and destroy the life of a human being that most people here(including me) know nothing about. This is bullying at its finest.

AskaMarine

Are we destroying your life, Amber? Poor,poor wittle girl. “Quit picking on me. I’m a VICTIM!”

Wake up, wittle girl.

No wonder you did not last long in the Army.

CA_SGT

Jay, we are not trying to destroy her. I have no problem with her raising money for an assault. I do take issue when she does so dishonestly, especially by lying about the military.

And it’s apparently not the first time she’s lied about such things, at least according to her brother. She needs help, more than anything, but when she lies about her service its dishonors every veteran (myself included) and something needs to be done about it.

To that end, I contacted police. You’ll never see me on here calling her names or demeaning her.

Animal

I disagree. If she had changed her gofundme post eliminating the military part of it, we wouldn’t still be talking about this. As much. Also, if she hadn’t been spreading lies about her service the last few years, they wouldn’t be coming back to haunt her today.

She’s not the victim in this. The victim are the veterans killed or wounded over the years that generate the goodwill and thanks of a grateful nation. Those veterans and those trying to repay the debt they feel they owe by giving her money based on her claims of military service are the victims.

Hence the name Stolen Valor.

AskaMarine

Amen, Animal.Amen.

thebesig

Jay: It’s not hard to prove when you wrote it a few comments up buddy. The argument is not on whether he was deceived or not, but on whether other people were deceived based on erroneous information that Amber Dawn Brower entered on her gofundme page. He is not going to go in there and argue that he was completely deceived, he is going to argue that other people were deceived, enough for them to donate what she has already received. Take his $5.00 out, and she still has the volume of donations received that could fry her should she get prosecuted for this. The real argument is on whether her statements are accurate or not. It’s clear that her statement about losing military housing, about being kicked out of the Army as of the generation of her page, are true or not. Jay: I’m not defending the possibility of dishonesty. Let me be clear. I just feel that it seems the point of this thread (or the direction it’s going anyways) is to try and destroy the life of a human being that most people here(including me) know nothing about. This is bullying at its finest. Actually, you are defending the possibility of dishonesty. Your problem is that you “feel” that this thread is going in a certain direction. You are not “thinking” or “analyzing” or even paying attention to what is going on. I pointed out the crux of the argument, which I flagged with yes/no questions for you to answer. Did she tell the truth, or that you like, regarding her insinuated current active duty service in the Army? The July regarding receiving a phone call informing her that she will be discharged from the Army for medical reasons? Is she about to lose military housing because of this? THESE are the crux of the argument, and the trend of this thread. Again, I’m not the only one that sees what I’m about to say. We are destroying a phony persona, we are not destroying a human being that “we have not met face-to-face”. The facts are… Read more »

AskaMarine

Go take care of your kids, Amber Dawn and find a REAL job.

Quit spending money on bleaching your hair, wearing false eyelashes trying to entice a man so that the guy will fall for your trap.

And for God’s sake, if you have fat coming out of your eye socket/sinuses, then go on a diet and lose the weight.

Get out of your alternate reality world, quit faking it (“Amber almost died giving birth!” sob,sob) and tell the truth.

thebesig

Jay: Lol.

Yes, that is what we are doing regarding your posts, as well as with Amber Dawn Brower’s games.

Jay: You chose out of your own doing to donate money because you wanted to try to force a comment on her page. That had nothing to do with her “fooling” you in to doing it. It had everything to do with you being illiterate. Again, good luck

Wrong. By donating to her page, he actually opened up avenues that he could take, as a donor, to correct inaccurate information on someone’s gofundme page.

Again:

“You, as a Campaign Organizer, represent, warrant, and covenant that all information you provide in connection with a Campaign is accurate, complete, and not otherwise designed to mislead, defraud or deceive any user;” – gofundme

This trumps any argument you make about whether she “fooled” him or not. The reality is that doesn’t matter. The fact of the matter is that she violated terms, that required her to be accurate in her campaign. She failed to do that. It doesn’t matter that he donated knowing full well that she isn’t who she represents herself to be. The fact of the matter is that she violated the terms on her gofundme page.

All that is needed is to prove a single statement, that she makes there, wrong. Not just any statement, but one she made where she clearly shouldn’t known was wrong. Once she starts receiving donations, the commission of an offense has been made. In fact, she had breached the threshold for it to be serious, in the form of the amount of donations she already received.

As for being illiterate. Either you’re being illiterate, or you’re deliberately taking a term/condition out of context in the form of making a strawman argument.

thebesig

Jay: Lol at all this hate. The Internet never ceases to amaze. The quality of people who troll boards like these only makes it seem more legit. Says the guy that is doing precisely the very things that he is complaining about here. No, this is not hate being demonstrated. The fact of the matter is that Amber Dawn Brower indicated that she was currently serving in the Army, on active duty, that she received a call that she was going to be medically chaptered, and that she was going to lose her military housing. That’s clearly indicated above, on her gofundme page. The fact that she is using that information, to help her raise funds, is what everybody that is hammering her here is getting at. Instead of attacking the people here, how about proving our arguments wrong? Did she say, “…but I got a call from the military telling me that I will have to be medically discharged from the Army. This also means that I lose my military housing and will no longer have a place to live”? YES [ ] NO [ ] Was Amber Dawn Brower wrong for stating that she received such call, that she was about to be discharged from the Army, and that she was about to lose her military housing? YES [ ] NO [ ] Copy and paste both of these YES/NO questions to reply, put an “X” in the box that represents your response, and spare me any additional BS that you would want to add. Your failure to address the argument makes you to troll. The cold hard reality is that we are calling her out for making those claims. Jay: Does tearing down some random person you don’t even know or will never meet help you sleep at night? Wrong, we are not tearing Amber Dawn Brower, as an individual, down. We are; however, tearing down the false persona that she put up on her gofundme page. This is the persona where she claims that she was about to be discharged from the Army, and that she… Read more »

Jay

Instead of wasting my time replying to your attempt to be cleaver, I will just assume you haven’t read most of the hateful things that have been said and are the typical illiterate bandwagoneer. I never said there was not some dishonesty going on. Some people have pointed that out in a constructive meaningful way.

But in true Internet bullying fashion, we have a large percentage of people who are here just to call names and try to demean someone they don’t even know.

Go ahead and write another essay to try to justify the hate. It’s still hate and absolutely not necessary.

MrBill

Jay – do you know the most significant thing you’ve done on this thread? I’ll bet it’s not what you intended.

You managed to keep this thread active and ever-expanding – up to 179 comments and counting. You’ve ensured that Amber Dawn Brower’s Internet prominence will depend primarily upon this thread. You’ve helped to ensure that when someone Googles Amber Dawn Brower, the first thing they’ll see is “Amber Dawn Brower: phony active duty soldier”. Your quibbling about “hate” and “bullying” will, ironically, draw greater attention to the facts concerning Amber Dawn Brower’s misrepresentations about her military career.

If you really want to do Amber Dawn Brower a favor, and minimize the attention given to Amber Dawn Brower, you might want to consider what you might do (or not do) that would contribute toward other people not continuing the conversation about Amber Dawn Brower.

Hondo

Jay:

1. It’s “clever”, not “cleaver”. The first refers to wit; the second, a kitchen tool.

2. If there’s dishonesty involved in an appeal for donations and money or property is donated as a result, that is by definition obtaining something under false pretenses – AKA fraud. The info presented above indicates exactly that has very likely occurred.

3. The anger here is fully justified. Brower is using the accomplishments of others for personal gain. That is dishonest as hell, and most here are vets who thus have a personal stake in opposing such reprehensible conduct.

You would be wise to listen to MrBill, cease commenting here, and do what you can to encourage Brower to STFU and come clean. No one is forcing you to come here in the first place, and the lady is only digging a deeper hole for herself via persisting in her dishonest acts.

thebesig

Jay: Instead of wasting my time replying, Yet, you wasted your time by replying, instead of doing what you said you’d do. If you felt that you’d be wasting your time replying to me, you wouldn’t have replied at all. Even your actions prove you wrong. If you can’t get straight what you’re going to do, what makes you think that anything else you say is going to have validity? Even with your latest reply to me, you shot yourself on the foot. What you’re really saying is what others have said over the 12 years I’ve been hammering people like you have said… You don’t have an argument, but you’re going to give yourself the excuse to sound off like a narcissistic windbag that doesn’t know that he’s been destroyed in debate. As with the others, it’s easier for you to do this than to answer simple, straightforward, questions that you know have simple answers that prove your argument wrong. You’re not the only one that has pulled this stunt. Jay: to your attempt to be cleaver There was no attempt at being cleaver. I took your arguments apart the way a cleaver cuts food items into mini cubes and parts. The rest of us took Amber Dawn Brower’s phony active duty claims apart the way cleavers cut food up into pieces. If you meant “clever”, then that’s a good indication that even you see the flaws of your own argument, but your narcissism keeps you in a fight that you’re getting destroyed in. Jay: I will just assume you haven’t read most of the hateful things that have been said and are the typical illiterate bandwagoneer. You assumed wrong. First, I’m a doctoral student who just had his dissertation topic approved. I have to plow through peer reviewed journals that make all of these posts here, as well as Amber Dawn Brower’s posts, look like one liners in a kindergarten picture book. I wouldn’t have gotten this far if I were “illiterate”. Second, I went through the comments, easy to do compared to reading quantitative data on a… Read more »

AskaMarine

Jay is most likely another Amber Dawn Multiple Personality Disorder illusion.

Don’t see a Jay making a contribution to her GoFundMe page.

This girl is not all there mentally. Probably the bleach on her hair got into her brain.

Her poor kids. Having a Mother who is a Liar and a Thief and Con Artist.

CA_SGT

I’m pretty sure Jay isn’t a sock puppet. Besides having seen that tag posting on here before, he seems much more competent that the anonymous poster above who was obviously Amber.

AskaMarine

You’re right, CA. Will stop.

Jay

Thanks CA. You are right. And I absolutely don’t believe her gofundme is completely honest. Which is why I won’t be donating.

I contemplated even commenting because this thread seems to be totally against anything that is the general ideology going on here. It seems any objective opinion was going to be band wagon attacked.

Again. I don’t believe her. But, I would chose to try to believe beyond the dishonesty, there is probably a lot going on that I do not understand.

Jarhead

Jay….you are a living contradiction. Where does one even start to “believe beyond the dishonesty?” Where once a person wrote on this site, “Anyone who is afraid of Communists is foolish.” Now you are basically saying, “Anyone who does not have faith in a person known to be inherently dishonest is foolish.” Lars, is that you again?
If ANYTHING is being “band wagon attacked” on this site, it would be a person who is criminally dishonest. Might you see something wrong with that? Or would you prefer no one EVER said or wrote anything about a person who is a liar and defrauds the general public with her schemes? Bet you’d have a different attitude had one of your older relatives been hustled out of possibly thousands by a grifter like this. Go ahead and write her a check for as much as she wants. We don’t care what you do with your money. What we DO care is that others, especially gullible older folks, don’t get suckered into believing a lie and lose money while trying to help a con artist.
What you refer to as being “band wagon attacked” represents the view point of people with integrity and ethics. Appears to be ONLY one one here who does not care about either. This is the wrong site if you are looking for those who can not see and discuss the truth.
Take a hike and go rent a Peter Pan movie. Sad how mean people are to Bernie Madoff and his kind.

Just An Old Dog

I can ALMOST feel sorry for this woman. She has problems. She is 30, a single mom with 2 kids and she hasn’t gotten a handle of life yet.
She is living in subsidized housing and it looks like the only thing she has going on is some sort of pyramid scam sales thing.
She got punched out by a friend who took her “goods”
Sad story, and one that will pull at someone’s heartstrings and maybe have them fork over a few bucks.
She decided that if she made up a story about being an active duty service member it would sound better.
She just pegged the skank-o-meter in my book. She has gotten close to 800 bucks with this lie.
Disgusting.

Snotcrow

I am very relieved that you slid the word almost in there.. we are all responsible for our actions. Just because life isn’t giving us free shit doesn’t mean that you aren’t responsible for yourself and your spawn. But you know this, dog.

I am more interested why her best friend punched her out. Maybe she had it coming?

2/17 Air Cav

Isn’t it just great that she plastered the faces of her children on her begging page? If that’s not a special kind of love that only a Mom can give, I don’t know what is. Her GFM write-up includes that her best friend–the one who allegedly whacked her–has some serious issues with drugs. That’s a nice thing to say, isn’t it? Yeah, Amber sounds like a terrific Mom and all-around peach. By the way, where is baby daddy or babies’ daddies? No child support? No welfare? I mean this in the sincerest way: screw her.

Anonymous

Dad is in the picture. She gets a pretty large amount of child support and state assistance. She just chooses not to work. This skin care thing is the first “job” she’s had in years!

NR Pax

This skin care thing is the first “job” she’s had in years!

Which is a lot different than claiming she’s still in the service like she did for the Go Fund Me page.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Yep. Much easier to beg using a bogus military background than to actually work for a living.

But didn’t dear old dad say she was still working with the Army in some job that required a clearance??

Get your stories straight puppets…

Snotcrow

>She just chooses not to work.

Shocker!

AskaMarine

Well, it seems that all of Amber Dawn’s Enablers have joined PV9 Joe Gainey’s Cricket Brigade.

Still don’t see a contribution on her GoFundMe from Martha Broadway as well.

Green Thumb

She should just go get a job at All-Points Logistics.

The False Commander and CEO “Phony” Phil Monkress would hire her in a minute.

She has the skill set.

Hack Stone

Well, there is a company in Bethesda that is a “proud woman owned” business that could use a female name and face to update their website. Does anyone know whether she has a mailbox door and/or was conceived with “lucky sperm”?

Jarhead

Amber….overnight I’ve had a change of view point. Why don’t you go after your former friend with maybe a fly swatter, or if she is a big woman use a double roll of toilet paper to smack her up side the noggin. Then get your skin products (the stuff she stole from you) back and get on with making the world a prettier place with skin care. My dog will be happy to be your first paying customer. She is almost 12 years old and like you, has no eyebrows. If you could just paint some on, maybe in neon, it seems to me all the old canines in the neighborhood would have a wonderful time again. Lipstick, eye liner, flea remover, something to rid “Merline” of the nostril and ear hairs….now that would make her hot again. BTW, in your line of skin products, do you carry anything to cover mange scars? You can do it Amber…put your mind to it and you can become the Skin Care Queen of 2016. We have faith in you and know you can spin a good yarn about your life and products. I’ll sit down with the pooch and read every word to her while she craps on the newspaper. Good luck!

B. Johnson

So you served 12 years in the Army and you enlisted on June 11, 2006 so with your 12 year service history that puts you getting out on 2018??? Are you a time traveler? You say you got beat up and lost half your vision and had a busted eye socket, but yet on your facebook you post a photo of an Xray image but not one single photo of your actual damage to your noggin. Why is it also that if your best friend beat you up so bad and gave you a smack down, why hasn’t this made it on the news or her being arrested so her violent streak causes no harm to others like Mary Kay and Avon. Your story might have held more weight had you posted a photo with your beat down images instead of some xray photo that doesn’t prove anything

B. Johnson

hmmm the facebook account is gone

B. Johnson

oh no it’s not gone, i still see it, my mistake

Jarhead

You know something B…you might have answered a lot of questions that were wandering through my mind. The word Travelers as in Irish Travellers…aka Gypsies. Now there’s an interesting sect. Mostly out of the Virginia area, or at least were at one time. Reason this came to mind was the unusual last names of many of the characters at the top of the page and all their friends taking up for them without reason to support the lifestyle, if that is what it is. Rather than say a lot on the subject, will some others please look into this and consider the parallels. The behavior, the lack of education, the well-kept distance from the moral issue….those and more deserve a second look.

AskaMarine

B, saw the X Rays on her Facebook and thought exactly as you: her eye orbit did not look broken.

Good catch and great questions!

B. Johnson

yeah why hasn’t this made it on the news or the police blotter, look at her own statement on her gofundme page: “When I confronted her and tried to ask for it back, I took a brutal blow to my left eye and blacked out. I woke up this morning in a puddle of blood on my pillow and rushed to the hospital only to find out that I have a severe blow out fracture to my eye socket and I lost half of my vision. There are bone fragments and fat blocking my sinuses resulting in near future surgery.” That brutal of an attack as she says would have been on the news, the police blotter…Why hasn’t it??? Also like i said earlier you post that photo of an xray as proof from the hospital but you don’t post the actual damage to your eye while your there taking a “picture of computer monitor” hmmmm

Animal

OMG, WTF, ROTFLMAO…Ok. That’s the extent of my fad language and I’m not 100% about the last one.

One of her friends posted a link to TAH thinking she didn’t know anything about it. Now ALL of her friends are getting an education.

She even admits to possibly being suicidal. Maybe we should back off? Nahhhhh.

She still could’ve taken the false claims from her gofundme page, but nope, she’s going down with the ship.

Animal

And if her friends that have defended her here and on her FB are representative of the education level of that generation, I weep for our country.

JayOlsen

Amber is just trying to get sympathy from everyone she has done it her whole life. She doesn’t know what’s real life or what’s fantasy. Sorry to say this but trying to use the military as a excuse to get what she wants and them blowing her plan up in her lying face shows just what kind of a person she really is. And the ones who are saying this is why our country is messed up NO its people like Amber who messes the country up trying to get recognition from the military for her being in the military and thinks that will be a payday for her when there is real vetrens and wounded soldiers who cant get help because of lying people like Amber. I have known her for sometime now and the stuff that she has done to me and my friends she got what she deserved it’s about time someone put her in her place. I applaud u whoever u are u have done what many people wanted to do….

Snotcrow

Please elaborate!
What other shenanigans has she done?

Anonymous

This woman is crazy pants. She’s a total liar & will use you for all your worth. She’ll be super sweet to you while she’s using you… And then bad mouth you when she’s done or you call her out. I really feel that she would benefit from seeing a therapist/psychologist but she would never admit to needing one. She’s always right & will just scream louder if she’s not in hopes you’ll retreat. She very insecure & projects her issues into you. Her best friend with “drug issues”, husband who “cheated on her”. The only people who actually believe her are ones who don’t know her very well… If you spent any time with her at all, you would see right through her fast. That’s why she doesn’t have any long term friends or relationships. It’s hard to keep the charade up! I could go on… Haha.

CA_SGT

I was just contacted by police in Idaho concerning her go fund me. We’ll see if it goes anywhere and I’ll keep you in the loop.

Anonymous

She really needs to be held accountable. She gets away with murder & has skated through every bad thing she’s done! I really hope something sticks with this. You’re helping people by going forward with this… Please know that!

B. Johnson

I am still curious as to why this has not been on the paper, news, or the police blotter, if she was beat up as bad as she says, there would have been an arrest and there is nothing. Not one mention of this type of brutal attack

Anonymous

I doubt it did go down like she says.. and she’s probably not really hurt either! I was saying I hope a charge sticks with her for fraud for the go fund me.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

One of her FB friends posted that she was now blind in one eye.

Uh-huh. …

spd0302

Boom…the gofundme campaign is gone.

ChipNASA

AskaMarine

Hmmm, I wonder why? ?

Well, Amber Dawn Brower…care to explain?

Are you still planning to use the money donated to you for legal fees…or will it go to your false eyelashes?

Hopefully, you will show remorse and apologize to those who you conned…and to those who believed your lies.

What a great example you set for your kids. And I’m sure your Daddy is so proud of you.

Lars Taylor's Narcissism

My two sock puppets are called “B” and “Jay”, as in “Bee Jay” or simply “BJ” because I’m GAHAAY!