David Masciotra: you don’t protect me

David Masciotra, you know, one of those stank-ass hipster doofuses who thinks he has something worthwhile to say about veterans and actively serving troops vomits on to the pages of Salon to lecture the American people on how much he is ungrateful that American troops are responsible for the environment in which he lives, you know, an environment that allows him to criticize those defenders of his freedoms – not just troops, but he’s not grateful for the cops, either;
Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as “heroes.” The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible.
It has become impossible to go a week without reading a story about police brutality, abuse of power and misuse of authority. Michael Brown’s murder represents the tip of a body pile, and in just the past month, several videos have emerged of police assaulting people, including pregnant women, for reasons justifiable only to the insane.
It is equally challenging for anyone reasonable, and not drowning in the syrup of patriotic sentimentality, to stop saluting, and look at the servicemen of the American military with criticism and skepticism.
Yeah, douchenugget, it’s not the uniform that makes folks worthy of respect and a measure of adulation, it’s what the uniform says about the person wearing it and their commitment to the ideals that they are defending. Anyone can buy a uniform and put it on – our Stolen Valor page is chocked full of people who do that. Those spazwads do it because the uniformed services are the last government institutions which accomplish that for which they were created.
I like how he added in the “preferably white man” in there, as if he’s not a white man. I’m pretty sure that Liberals don’t know they’re white.
Masciotra claims that there is a “sexual assault epidemic in the military”. He doesn’t mention that a woman on a college campus is more likely to be assaulted than a woman on a military base. Masciotra recently graduated from college, so I wonder how many women he raped.
He refers to that tired-ass survey that the stank-ass hippies all use for proof that 1/3 of women in the military are assaulted. The folks who did the poll sent out tens of thousands of inquiries to women who had been in the military, they got a few hundred back and 1/3 of those few hundred said they’d been raped – does that sound a bit unscientific to anyone? But it says what the David Milquetoasts of the world want to hear, so, the veracity of the poll doesn’t come into question.
Chelsea Manning, now serving time in prison as a whistle-blower, uncovered multiple incidents of fellow soldiers laughing as they murdered civilians. Keith Gentry, a former Navy man, wrote that when he and his division were bored they preferred passing the time with the “entertainment” of YouTube videos capturing air raids of Iraq and Afghanistan, often making jokes and mocking the victims of American violence.
O-o-o-h. Chilling. I’m pretty sure that there are just as many college and high school students who are doing the same thing when they should be studying. Facebook is full of those videos and not everyone watching them are in the military. I’ll bet Chelsea Manning did a bit of war-pron viewing himself.
Wars that are not heroic have no real heroes, except for the people who oppose those wars. Far from being the heroes of recent wars, American troops are among their victims. No rational person can blame the soldier, the Marine, the airman, or the Navy man for the stupid and destructive foreign policy of the U.S. government, but calling them “heroes,” and settling for nothing less, makes honest and critical conversations about American foreign policy less likely to happen. If all troops are heroes, it doesn’t make much sense to call their mission unnecessary and unjust. It also makes conversations about the sexual assault epidemic, or the killing of innocent civilians, impossible. If all troops are heroes, it doesn’t make any sense to acknowledge that some are rapists and sadists.
The same principle of clear-eyed scrutiny applies to law enforcement agencies. Police departments everywhere need extensive investigation of their training methods, qualifications for getting on the job, and psychological evaluation. None of that will happen as long as the culture calls cops heroes, regardless of their behavior.
Again, Dave, who is silencing your criticism? There you are, on Salon, criticizing the troops and the police and I suspect that no one is kicking down your front door to haul you off to one of our famous gulags where you’ll be tortured and punished for expressing your opinion.
What he’s really afraid of is being scrutinized for being the weak, intellectually dishonest creepy-looking milksop who can’t see anything worth a little inconvenience in his own life. Mr. Milquetoast wants everyone to get the impression that he’s a hero because he speaks his mind, but what is heroic about evacuating his bowels in the pages of Salon when he’s just toeing the stank-ass hippie/hipster dufus party line. Maybe in his crowd he’s brave, but to the rest of the country, he’s just another motormouth dingus with a rat stuck to his face. I’ll bet he wears a ball cap backwards, too. By the way, look who Dave does think is a hero.
In these dark days, this country needs heroes and they ain’t gonna turn to the David Milquetoasts.
Thanks to Ann for the link.
Category: Dumbass Bullshit
I couldn’t finish reading it I was trying not to throw up in a fit of rage
You captured my thoughts exactly.
Douche, and yeah I wanted to vomit till the cows come home, I bet he smells like patchouli and a SF bath house.
I simply laugh at them. People like Masciotra are, in many instances, jealous little twerps who couldn’t or wouldn’t join the military. Others are simply brainwashed leftist turds. Masciotra is one of those egotistical, boring little college turds who think they are better than “the great unwashed.” Just ask him. He’ll be happy to tell you how much smarter he is than the average Joe on the street. I wonder if anyone ever told Masciotra that his hipster hippy hair cold use a bit of Rogaine? He probably got that receding hairline from rubbing his forehead up and down on his boyfriends belly.
Freedom of speech allows him the freedom to spout idiocy.
I’m sure the irony that people in uniform protect his right to do so is lost on him.
Faq’heem.
I can prey that chokes on something besides a dick. And no veteran steps up to help him. That way he can die knowing his beliefs are correct.
Now, now-don’t limit yourself, him choking to death on a dick would also be fine.
Well, screw him.
Hold on a minute, Jonn. He just graduated college. He knows everything.
I’d love for once, to see one of these know it all fairies to have the guts to involve themselves with the particular organization that they are criticizing to either gain a true insight or to try to change it. But, that would take guts wouldn’t it?
“Wars that are not heroic have no real heroes, except for the people who oppose those wars”
The boiler plate bullshit that is ejected from his yapper is the typical rant of a coward. The attempt to make himself heroic, by claiming he’s the hero for saying his betters are not, doesn’t make it so.
“Far from being the heroes of recent wars, American troops are among their victims”
You don’t speak for me or my brothers and sisters, jackwagon. You are one of those that think everyone that doesn’t roll over and take it up the ass is a victim. You aren’t spewing anything new, in your intellectually vacant rant, but rather a regurgitation of cowards of the past.
Why don’t you take your dumb ass over to Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq and tell the Taliban or ISIS that they are “victims”, too? I dare you, hero.
We don’t protect you? OK, fair enough. See ya!
Nah, this guy is silly. His heroes? Cornel West and Noam Chomski but he has become disappointed with West. Oh well. This guy is nothing. At one site, he is credited with being a professor at St. Francis but St. Francis U doesn’t list him. Besides, he doesn’t have a doctorate. He is a silly little boy. That’s all.
By the way, look who Dave does think is a hero.
Yeah, that’s shocking. Fucking punk.
That he feels no bilious rise when Jesse the Race Baiter compares himself casually to Dr. King tells you everything you need to know about his intellectual capacity, credulity and credibility.
Holy Crap!
I guess it’s true … haters are gonna hate, and the facts be damned.
Jonn,
Interestingly enough, a famous quote of MLK, you know since this shitbag loves him some Jesse…is that if one isn’t willing to die for a belief, what’s the point? Of course it’s all lost on him, of course!! Like most liberals he uses the big words and sophistry to make him sound smart and we know what that means! He’s still living at home in his mama’s house…
This guy is just doing the typical liberal femnazi thing. Create controversy where there is none and take all the credit for starting a “discussion” about this “systemic problem.” And of course a bunch of retards are gonna jump in his comment section and support him. We all know shitbags stick together…
Never did have much truck with (presumed) philosophy majors and usually turn off my hearing aids when they contribute to greenhouse gases with their verbal flatulence.
Whichever college he attended owes him a refund. It clearly made him dumber.
He looks like a recent Goddard college graduate. Its just a matter of the hippy smell to be sure.
He also has that “I want to babysit your child” look.
Weirdo.
You can tell he just graduated college. He tries to use as many fancy words as possible in such a short article.
They still seem to teach in college that “there is no bad publicity” because he’s all over this like a hipster on a prius.
I’m going to take a stab that he’s had a few “black scholongs” in his mouth over the years, as much adulation as he has for Jesse Jackson (And as stuck on “preferably white” in his beginning as he is), the multi-millionaire who won’t let a crisis ever go to waste. I would bet he even “apologized” to Jackson, South Park Style too.
The unfortunate thing is that he’ll continue to get other stupid whiny hipsters swooning over him so he’ll continue to get a paycheck and keep driving a powder blue priusssss around with a smug cloud following him everywhere.
“The unfortunate thing is that he’ll continue to get other stupid whiny hipsters swooning over him so he’ll continue to get a paycheck and keep driving a powder blue priusssss around with a smug cloud following him everywhere.”–As he bends over to sniff his own farts…
I see this as a case of penis envy. Don’t worry, young intellect, English Lit instructors will one day be in vogue and worshiped roundly. But today is our day, worship the steely eyed, hard-dick paratrooper.
English lit instructors are worshipped. When they’re female. They always seem to be the hot ones. At least mine were…
True story.
Redheads…leo or libra. HAWT.
David will never be man enough to serve because of his walnut size balls! His ass doesn’t need to be in America. Ship the pathetic loser to France.
He is a sissy. I beat his sorry ass be calling for help if he was in a dangerous situation!
Sorry, I was too busy admiring his ear rings and voluminous styled hair …… Did he say anything worth noticing? Or should just ask who his stylist is?
Hows OUR FRIEND WILLIAM DEREK CHURCH?
I have wondered this too. Not out of concern but of morbid curiosity.
ArmyMedical … he is still Round and unemployed as far as we know. Dont really have much to do with that side of the fam. We tend to not have to visit the Welfare Office or Walmart to get by, so we have no occasion to run into them
—————-, but what is heroic about evacuating his bowels in the pages of Salon when he’s just toeing the stank-ass hippie/hipster dufus party line. —————- That was awesome!
I think I’m dyslexic cause everytime I read his name I see “Scrote.” That will be his spirit name. David “Scrote” Masciotra…
Ah, a fellow Wambaugh reader
The real question here is: why would ANYONE care what this little punk ass bitch has to say? Is there anything at all that makes his opinion worth paying any mind to? Has he accomplished anything at all that would inform his opinion? Yeah, I thought all I’d hear were those damned noisy crickets.
Because, we need some kind of deviant enjoyment on this planet and this meatcicle provides a lil bit of it. lol.
Well … Yes.
In fairness, he can string together words into grammatically correct albeit aimless sentences. Perhaps the Phony Chief could take him on as a legal secretary, or APL could hire him to learn contracting.
Need to choke him out and make him do the chicken
Who? He sounds like just another shittyassed hippie that’s not even worth a squirt of a HQ PAC Clerk’s piss!
Just another pathetic and insignificant example of the “me” generation that probably skipped all of his history classes in school. Reading his diarrhea on the salon link, it was either him or one of his boyfriends, that while badmouthing the military, stated that the US didn’t having a standing Army until after WWI. I believe that 14 June 1775 is sometime before “the war to end all wars”.
This turd is a product of unprotected ass sex.
Loser.
Whoa! TMI!!!!
Works out well. I have no respect for him either, so we should get along just fine. However, should he step foot into my yard? He better have a warrant. Oh, wait…
BOHICA! Any more it just makes me tired.
I read some of the comments on that Salon page.
I need a drink.
Most of them (commenters) appear to be freeloading, Latte-drinking, Obamacare groupies sucking their way through life.
Losers and cowards.
Whiskey or rye?
Moonshine.
Salon? What the hell is that? Never heard of it. Let’s see,S-A-L-O-N,—Stank Ass Lovers Of Narcissism? Yea,that’s gotta be it.
‘It has become impossible to go a week without reading a story about police brutality, abuse of power and misuse of authority.’ Dave the philosopher (not so much)
Yeah, but, dave, see, you and your dope-smoking dopey friends are the idiots who think it’s okay to take your jogging through a bad neighborhood at midnight with no regard to your own safety and refuse to recognize that you set yourself up for attacks of all sorts, by all sorts, including die polizei. Maybe you should have had a taste of how Stalin treated people he didn’t like just because they looked at him cross-eyed.
If you ever decide to stop being a slob, would you let someone know? That unkempt, scraggly rat=on=face look went out with the end of the disco era. How’a that job hunt coming, huh? No takers yet?
No takers on the job hunt is why he’s “writing” at Salon. Some day, he’ll grow up and get a real job to supplement his part-time gig emptying the butt cans outside his local Burger King.
Or….backrow at the local T/A truckstop…
Oh, didn’t you guys know? Fast food the industry is slowly beginning to fade away.
It’s true. McD’s may still be the king, but people are beginning to slowly stray away to something healthier.
Seriously, what would you rather do? Sit in your car with a cardboard cup of coffee and a sausage burrito? Or sit at the counter with toast, bacon, scrambled eggs and hash browns, and a waitress who gives you endless refills and some conversation?
So I figured a few things out about David Masciotra. First and foremost…he’s a coward with a yellow streak from his head to his heels. That is the pinnacle reason he would never serve in the military or law enforcement or in harm’s way on any kind. That is the Freudian root for his disdain of “heroes” of any type. Those who have the courage to do what he does not have the spine or balls to ever do, are an constant, annoying reminder when he looks in the mirror of his own weak, faint heart and soul. Therefore he writes like this crap to compensate for his cowardice. Women being assaulted? Have you compared the military statistics to the national average as a percentage of each population? I guess not since your beating a horse that’s been dead since…forever. Innocent civilians being killed? Have you written an open letter in one of the few fluff, gay magazines who will even print your horseshit, harshly attacking ISIS and the “religion of peace” for their beheadings, rapes, slaughters and folks buried alive? I bet not because ISIS and even Muslims in America would mark your cowardly ass down on their “death list” hit parade. By the way David, if your notion of a hero is Jesse Jackson, I can tell the ink isn’t dry on your degree yet and probably not your birth certificate either. No one except Al Sharpton is doing more to keep black Americans poor and government dependent than Jackson. Well except for who’s sitting in the White House right now. If Jackson truly worked to achieve what he says or better still, what Martin Luther King proposed, which was a fair and even opportunity at all aspects of the American life and dream, regardless of color, and thereby blacks actually rose into the middle class…Jesse’s sorry worthless ass would be out of a job! I say out of a job because the chances of Jesse ever actually working for a living are about the same as your chances of telling a cop to “get lost” the next… Read more »
P.S. David Masciotra…No I wouldn’t protect you under any circumstances. If I knew it was you getting mugged, stabbed or raped I’d take pictures to update your Facebook and Linkedin profile for you. But help…no way in hell. I’d let Bubba and Thor drag your faggoty ass into the alley to have “fun” with you. Since I know you have a problem with anyone trying to say, “they protect you”. I would honor your wishes and beliefs. (I might toss Bubba and Thor some condoms but that’s about it and they’d be for…them. Since you would already have shit your pants. Queer bait!
If he thinks Jesse Jackson is a hero he should travel to his hometown of Greenville, SC and ask around. Especially at the apartment complex Jackson owns. He is despised for the most part in that entire region, even by his own family for being useless and part of the problem.
Hey, guys, this Bud’s for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUrf6Qg4T4E
No, the rest of us haven’t forgotten, either.
Sissy boy’s opinion of anything matters to no one. Apparently, he fancies the Charles Manson/Satan look with the worker’s uniform shirt. You know the one. It’s the blue one that IDs all socialist/progressive/marxist pukes. I always get a kick out that shirt. I really do. The authentic ones are in high demand and the lefties comb the used clothing stores in factory and mill towns trying to find the genuine article, a blue work shirt actually worn by an oppressed worker. Most fail in their quest and have to go to the mall (in disguise, of course) or buy one online. They hate that they must do this. After all, they are just feeding the capitalist pig they so despise. But the shirt is an essential piece of equipment so feed the pig they must. Love it.
Hell,ain’t that just a light blue Dickies work shirt? $12.95 new at any Wal-Mart or $1.50 used at the Good Will.
They need to add the little work hat that the East Germans and Austrians wore 25 years ago to complete their commie inspired attire.
On a different note, guys like him are the type that if we were ever invaded (never gonna happen btw) he’d be sucking up to the opfor narcing out his friends and neighbors to score points.
He wouldn’t last long.
King Rat.
I don’t know, guys – that looks an awful lot like something you can pick up at a Gap outlet on the end-of-season sale rack. And if he’s SO-O-O-O anti-conservative, why the huffnagel is he wearing a jacket of any kind?
He’s just another slob who will be lucky if he gets the ‘oppressed worker’ position at a roadside diner, where the waitresses each chip in $2 at the end of his shift clearing tables.
But he’s a philosopher, so you see that means he’ll persuade a bevy of horny chicks to share his fleabag with him.
The chicks will only be around until word gets out that he has Herpes, and prefers boys.
Or the girls that admire him reach age 11, whichever comes first.
“Wars that are not heroic have no real heroes, except for the people who oppose those wars.”
I bet that shitlord doesn’t say that to veterans faces.
What a oxygen thief.
David Ma-SCROT-i,If you want to do some real reporting on a subject,I dare you to make the short 40 mile drive from Indianapolis over to the Indiana National Guard’s ChalleNGe Academy at Knightstown. Go for just one day and get a dose of reality. I know you would probably not last through the first two hours,but give it a shot anyway. We’ll be waiting for your column.
“The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement…”
Define irony.
Masciotra must have skipped Logic 101, because what he is presenting is a strawman argument based on his opinion that everyone shares a faulty syllogism:
GI Joe is a Medal of Honor winner and a hero.
GI Joe is in the military.
All members of the military are heroes.
My great-grandfather was in the Union cavalry during the Civil War, and from the time I was a small child was taught that when the whistle blows, you’re supposed to get up and go stand in line. Not as a matter of being a hero, but as a matter of paying dues. Something which deserves at least small thanks from a grateful nation.
It seems to me that until Masciotra has either paid those dues, or can understand the distinction, he should sit down and shut up.
Masciotra is the living definition of “a plastic fucker.” How would you like to have this cowardly little self-serving little sissy watching your six?
Ran into so many shitbags like him when I was in San Francisco. Real fucking tough when they are safe from being drop kicked across the town but up close and personal and they shit their pants.
Can’t count the number of times I saw their pissy little attitude crumble when they realize that they are not protected from an ass whipping by the first amendment they love to go on about.
UH HUH!
Why are people getting worked up over this?
Don’t people realize that getting people riled up and garnering attention via controversy is exactly what guys like these are all about?
So predictable.
These narcissists know that there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so they conveniently pick something they KNOW will upset people. The military and troops is always an easy target.
Coming soon is the IF I offended anyone apology.
So predictable, these morons.
Well,in the words of Cool Hand Luke,”it’s something to do”.
I don’t know any people like her. I never associate with trash like it. And when I am with intelligent persons of various backgrounds, political differences we laugh at such assertions. And if I ever encounter such a scuttlefucht a PITT maneuver will be in order!
PITT (Punch in the Throat).
PITT cleared…
All I can say is that this hippie asshole better not ever call 911. If he leaves the country, he’d better be thoroughly self-sufficient and able to defend, feed, and heal himself. God forbid he find himself in need of the very protection provided by those same people he insults, slanders, and libels.
And I know he thinks he gets cool points for humoring the Wannabe-Eunuch Bradley Manning, but it’s actually the opposite. He’s casting his lot with a traitor who got people killed and also physically assaulted a female Soldier–wait, what was that other hippie cause that Little Davey here was trying to champion? Every gay person I know hates Bradley Manning and wants him to either rot in prison the rest of his worthless life or be the guest of honor at a neck-tyin’ party.
I’m selling raffle tickets for MWR. The winner gets to smack the smirk off this jackwagon’s face and then kick him in the nuts.
I don’t think his nuts have dropped yet Chief. So a kick to the taint would be more appropriate.
Hey, I’ll knock that smirk off his face and make his nutsac drop down, too…with a frickin’ riot baton.
“You don’t protect me.” – David Mascio … Mascara … Mascrote … whatever the hell his name is.
I answer your four words with four of my own:
I don’t want to.
[…] Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as “heroes.” The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible. — David Masciotra, quotes at This Ain’t Hell. […]
Fork his mama and the horse she rode in on…
Fork his momma … No friggin’ way.
Horse meat is good eatin’ as I have enjoyed it.
But a horse like that should go straight to dog food!
Wait … I like dogs!
Never mind!
I will get back on this one …
He has a mother?
He’s still in her basement.
You just won the internet with that comment.
Well said!
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Well he is absolutely right in that no member of the military or police protects “him” or his ilk.
He and other shitbags just happen to be infesting the country we protect.
Hes like a cockroach that thinks the homeowner has fire insurance to save it from getting burned up.
I am going to appropriate the use of your cockroach analogy, with your permission of course. That pretty much sums it up.
So your essential argument is that he’s a douche and to make fun of the way he looks, and avoid any salient discussion of his essential point, other than to point out that, yeah, rapes happen in colleges too, as if that makes the sexual assault epidemic in the military okay.
Face it. You’ve got nothing.
We don’t have to discuss the rape “epidemic”, because Jonn already answered it. Unfortunately, you haven’t mastered reading comprehension, yet.
Face it, you’re the won who has nothing.
You want us to act more mature than he is? Well, we can do that, but it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun.
Besides, it isn’t even possible to have a “salient discussion” with a fool. Pay attention if you want to play with the big dogs.
Rob. You are absolutely right. We are not into salient discussion. We tend towards the subtle here. The Charles Manson lookalike in the oppressed worker’s shirt makes no argument. He merely makes assertions. So, what’s to rebut?
First you need to define the terms rape and sexual assault. You will find the civilian definition of sexual assault and the DoD definition are two VERY different things. You cannot compare the two events based strictly on statistics. Simply comparing numbers will skew the results to make it appear there is an “epidemic” of sexual assault in the military. Sexual assault does occur in the military and it needs to be dealt with severely, but it has and always will occur where you have humans involved.
What “sexual assault epidemic in the military” are you talking about? There’s no more sexual assault in the military than there is in the civilian world. So what then is the author’s point, other than to trash the military and those who serve? Mastrioca has no point. All he’s doing is ranting about the good will those who serve get from the civilian population. Face it. You’ve got nothing.
What’s his essential point again? That he’s ungrateful towards those who have fought and died so he can have the right to talk this way, or that he’s able twist statistics into it looking like every female who joins the military gets raped?
Please elaborate Robbie…
It gets better, Montel Williams is all over this guy like a bum on a bologna sandwich. And, Davie-boi here decided that he couldn’t take the heat, so he has deleted his Twitter account. You know, I have to give some props to Montel, first with SGT Tahmooressi (did I spell that right?) and now this. I remember he used to have a morning talk show, but that he wasn’t as crass and exploitative as Jerry Springer. I don’t know where his politics are, but he is definitely looking out for military and vets every chance he gets. That makes him a good guy in my book. Thanks for the effort, Lt. Commander and chase this shitbag down.
From what I have seen, Montel is rather left leaning but he doesn’t let that interfere with things.
He’s a liberal who’s also a good guy and doesn’t compromise his principles. In other words, he’s a breed rarer than a unicorn.
Hey Dave, fuck off. You are right, I dont protect you. I hereby forever and irrevocably rescind any form of protection that my service to this country may have afforded you. Any resemblance to actual protection, symbolic or otherwise, is purely coincidental and not intended to give the impression that I give a fuck about you or your opinions.
Great, dick bag here made national news. Now he’ll never shut up.
Can’t wait to hear on the news that this a**hole got a foot put up his … (what a piece of sh*t)
The only good I can see in this is that the fact that he has a forum to speak his little indoctrinated mind and air his uninformed opinion is proof that we’ve all done a pretty damn good job of defending the Constitution.
Well I guess I’m damn near Satan; first a soldier, then a cop, now a civilian DoD employee. I love hearing from people like this guy who speak in absolutes and generalities such as “all police departments”, and “epidemics.” Typically when faced one on one and pressed for details/presented with facts their arguments fold. I have a few family members and in laws who are on the far left and they hate to see me pull up in the yard during the holidays. Sad that people like this think anyone with half a brain takes them seriously.