Daryld “Gil” Gilbertson; embellishing Sheriff in Oregon
The folks at Guardians of Valor shared with us their paperwork for Daryld “Gil” Gilbertson, the sheriff for Josephine County, Oregon. He is a Navy veteran of the Vietnam War, and according to his records, he spent more than 2 years of his 3 years of service deployed to the Pacific, first on the destroyer USS Rupertus (DD-851) and then on the missile frigate the USS Dale (CG-19) while both ships sailed off the coast of South Vietnam supporting the war efforts of troops on the ground there. Gilbertson was a radioman during his service. But, I guess that wasn’t good enough for the sheriff, because he told an interviewer that he was also a Navy-trained diver and trained in ordnance disposal.
Well, not according to his Navy records;
I had to ask some of our members from the damper service, but they assure me that the training records indicate nothing but training as a radioman. No training as a diver, no ordnance disposal training. Enigma points out that training for radioman is pretty extensive and requires intense background checks as well, so it doesn’t make sense to get that person blown up after spending all that money.
The good sheriff also did a stint at the Air Force National Guard in Iowa as a security policeman, but again, there’s no training beyond being a security policeman in the Air National Guard;
He left the Air Guard as an E-5 in 1992, but he claims he was a contractor for the State Department and went to Kosovo and that he was a colonel in his campaign literature this year;
In his LinkedIn profile he says that he was in Kosovo as a contractor from 1998 – 2004. He may be telling us that his position with the State Department was equivalent to being a Army colonel, but that’s not what he says.
If that’s not what he’s saying, that’s a pretty slick career path from E-5 to O-6 in six years. He claims service in the Army Reserves, but the National Personnel Records Center couldn’t find those records, only the Navy and Air Force National Guard records. Out of all of that, I think making up stuff about being an ordnance disposal guy without the actual training is most egregious. But, your mileage may vary.
Category: Phony soldiers
What’s next, will he claim to be an Honorary CPO as well?
What! No claim to being the Iowa Army Air Guards only SR-71 qualified sooper seekrit LTC pilot. Why he must have done some ultra high altitude intel gathering missions over Des Moines. Fuckin Turd.
Looking at that impressive list of credentials, invented the CPO ranks! probably came up with the idea while doing a seal-eod-diver-recon mission in a river about halfway between Hanoi and Peking. Had the CNO institute it after thrashing him on the links and drinking his best scotch.
Hmmm,
Josephine county isn’t too far to drive…
Yeah, kinda hard to be EOD without having NAVSCOLEOD in your records. Turd. All that Kosovo stuff is suspect as well. I could be wrong but I don’t recall the State Department having anything to do with the UNMIK-P. Hence, the “UN” in UNMIK-P.
He’s a politician, isn’t he supposed to lie?
The first three listings on his page 4 are correspondence courses.
How did the AFNG award him two service longevity awards when he appears to have served a total of 17 months?
I was wondering the same. The AFLS is awarded for every 4 year period of service creditable towards retirement be it active or reserve/guard regardless of component. I don’t see eight total years anywhere.
From his Navy time and also the AFNG time he had (I’m rounding) 17 months + 10 months then 7 more months for 53 months…4 years and 5 months?
One award.
I have 4 for my 23 years in. Didn’t quite make it for the 4th oak leaf…
As a SSgt too and SFS cop, I’d also SERIOUSLY question an MSM. I’d have to see the write up on that. I have two but
I got one as an E-6 and one as an E-8.
I call Bullshit. Probably doctored the paperwork for that too…or gave an Admin clerk a handjob.
LSoS
Yeah I missed the MSM. That would have to be one hell of a citation for a SSgt to get one. I managed two, one as an E-7 and one when I retired as an E-8. That would be the first MSM I ever saw that wasn’t preceded by the award of a Achievement or Commendation medal also.
3E9,
That’s completely valid point,
How the glorious flying monkey fark are you going to rate a MSM without an Achievement or Commendation medal? I got and Achievement as an Amn/A1C and then SrA/Sgt and a Commendation I believe as SSgt.
Oh jebus, I heald SSgt for *YEARS*
😀
Hell I was an E-2 for 26 months and an E-4 for almost 5 years. I wasn’t much of an overachiever in my early days.
Chip: my guess is that’s a typo on his FOIA, and should probably read AF Meritorious Unit Award vice AF MSM. Pretty sure the ANG was pretty heavily involved with supporting actions overseas during the early/mid 1990s, so his unit receiving an AFMUA wouldn’t seem to be out of the question.
Hondu,
That’s certainly logical
http://www.afpc.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=7784
I have 2 AF OUAs but never a Meritorious Unit Award and I was in during that time too. As a SFS guy (Gil), that’s totally plausible, but his record should reflect that.
Funny, if that is in fact the case, it’s not been corrected, were it to be inaccurate.
All it takes is a DD-215
Chip: who is this “Hondu” of whom you speak, amigo? (smile)
Just kidding. My guess is that his records actually show the AFMUA, but that the FOIA tech preparing the NA 13164 form (the FOIA reply form) for his ANG service made a typo due to inexperience, fatigue, or simple error/brain cramp.
Dipshit.
Nice try, but just a political jab. Thanks to my supporters Melissa and Edward.
While onboard the Rupertus I served as a radioman, and worked with my father (on the same ship together) who was a Boatswain, through him I became one of the ship’s divers. Since that time I certified under PADI.
As far as the EOD, I certified in class B-7-85 at Redstone in Huntsville Alabama through a certified bomb technician school offered by the FBI/Army.
The least you can do, is do it correctly.
The rank in the Bosnia and Kosovo missions came from the State Department.
Right Mr. Gilbertson. The State Department hands out rank.
Maybe you were a GS scale equivalent, but you were never a Colonel.
There is a difference, but apparently in your mind there isn’t. Hopefully you constituents will help you realize the difference.
I imagine they are and will.
The generally-accepted equivalent in the DoS for Colonel is the Foreign Service Officer grade FS-1. That’s roughly equivalent to the Federal Civil Service grade GS-15; entry level is typically FS-5 or FS-6. I’d guess it’s not exactly passed out to folks w/o a fair amount of DoS experience very often.
Ain’t buying that one w/o some proof, either.
The Navy taught you to dive once you were on the boat? No official dive school training? Your dad just knew someone & they taught you? OK…
Was that certification through a correspondence course?
Don’t you arrest people for impersonating what you do? So what should happen to you for impersonating a military officer? The State Department doesn’t bestow military rank or titles on its Foreign Service Officers or contractors.
Since when does doing a padi class and OJT certify you as a navy diver? Did you really just come with that stupid shit? I guess I can throw on jump wings if I go parasailing in Bermuda?
I am scuba certified and have been for over twenty years. Never through it out on a resume or such. You listing it there made it appear you were a professional diver. No, you were not. You were not a Colonel, even if the state department got you the “status” of one. All in all, you seem to have some serious career inflation going on. Funny how that tends to bite people in the ass eventually.
I get the impression that he thought he was talking to a bunch of civvies instead of looking around at who is at TAH.
Yeah, there’s way too many lifer pigs here to attempt some of the swag crap this guy has thrown out. I love the response, though. Wait till some of my force buddies hear I’m dual cool now that I have a PADI licence and went parasailing. Frikkin funny!!! Almost makes me wish I lived there, so I could get involved in this election! You gotta wonder why he didn’t throw out a seal trident, after all he probably saw one in a px once.
You have any paperwork on that EOD Training Gil? Curious thing though, as I read the article above it cites you as having achieved that in the Navy… that’s odd, huh?
I mean you just said you got the training from the FBI and Army, but the article says you came out of the Navy an expert diver and ordinance disposal technician.
Here’s a simple question. Mr Gilbertson, According to the records you have an Air Force Longevity Service Award with an Oak Leaf cluster, denoting 2 awards. They are awarded for each 4 years, of good service in the military. Do you have any additional service time that is not documented here? As I see it, you have approximately 4 years and 4/5 months of *military* service between your Navy time and the USAF Iowa National Guard, which would equal ONE award of this ribbon. I also question that you may or may not have a legitimate Meritorious Service Medal. For an E-5 to be awarded one, is *QUITE* rare, (to quote wikipedia so not as to give you my experience and opinion….” recipients of the Meritorious Service Medal (MSM) are typically field grade officers in pay grades O-4 through O-6 (major, lieutenant colonel, colonel), senior chief warrant officers in pay grades W-3 through W-5 (CW3 to CW5, Army only), and senior non-commissioned officers (E-7 to E-9) in both the Army and the Air Force. Award of the MSM to company grade officers in pay grades O-1 through O-3 (2d lieutenant, 1st lieutenant, captain), junior warrant officers/chief warrant officers in pay grades W-1 and W-2 (WO1 and CW2, Army only), and junior NCOs in pay grades E-6 and below is rare and typically by exception.) Might you be able to provide us some additional documentation as an E-5 National Guard Security Forces NCO that merited this award? I was awarded one as an E-6 only because while on active duty, I was a shift supervisor when we had 2 incidents within days of each other where loss of life and significant loss of operational assets and equipment were a possibility due to two accidents that occurred on my watch. (Thankfully no injuries occurred and it was civilians involved)…so I’m only a bit curious as someone who was involved in writing MANY awards and decorations for my troops and can’t say I remember many MSMs being awarded to SSgts during Wing Commander’s Calls. (As mine was as a TSgt) ***If I’m wrong,… Read more »
OK – we have some Army EOD types who read regularly. Anyone in that community have any current contacts at the EOD school, or know someone who does? We now seem to have a class number and a name that needs checking against the school’s historical records.
Hondo,
Hondo,
If I’m not mistaken (and I often am) the school he is referring to is the FBI Hazardous School at Redstone Arsenal. It’s about 4-6 weeks long I think. I’m not sure how much involvement military EOD has in it.
Hazardous Device School
Probably. Did some further checking and it appears only Phase I of Army EOD School is currently taught at Redstone (and at Fort Lee as well); Phase II is indeed taught at Eglin. The FBI Hazardous Device School is also taught at Redstone as you indicate.
Since the cat is out of the bag. The name of the school at Redstone is Hazardous Devices School. It is taught by the Army and administered by the FBI. Phase I of EOD school is now at Fort Lee and Phase II is at Eglin.
At any rate, I have a very good friend that works there that I will get in touch with. Stay tuned.
Mebbys he could wear a tab instead:
SAP
PERRedstone doesn’t equal EOD. EOD is taught at one Joint Service School; FBI Bomb Technician is taught in Alabama. If I remember correctly my Captain in Investigations back in the 90’s went to the same course and it was about 4 weeks versus around 9 months for EOD. I’ve never attended either but I’ve been associated with graduates of both and they don’t equate.
A State Department Colonel? Not hardly; I would like to see documentation on that.
So, are you going to answer under what guise you are wearing the Master Bomb Technician Badge?
Let’s get something crystal fucking clear right now. If you went to the school at Redstone administered by the FBI and the Army you are NOT, I say again, NOT an EOD Tech. Try that shit with somebody else. While we’re at it, why don’t you tell me the name of that course and some of the instructors. I’ll be talking to a very good friend that works at that school real soon.
Well put, I notice the fakers in the navy always have some elaborate excuse to justify their outlandish claims to be in the teams, a tech or a diver bottom line is every one of them is intending to make others believe something that’s not true. My advice When I Notice People Doing this, be proud of your military service whatever degree you served. What a narcissist
I can tell everyone first hand that I had the misfortune of working under Sheriff Gilbertson as a road deputy when he first was elected into office. I soon left for a more progressive department cause I saw the path he was leading the department down. I had the opportunity to witness his tactics or should I say lack of. With so many claims to fame I don’thtp3n-4729678588%40pers.craigslist.org?subject=Want%20to%20be%20fucked…%20T4m%2C%20t4mm%2C%20m4mm%20-%20m4m&body=%0A%0Ahttp://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cas/4729678588.html%0A see how such a trained person with that much experience can lack so many officer safety skills, putting other deputies in harms way. It’s just luck that he hasn’t gotten anyone hurt. Additionally, I encourage anyone to research the BOTCHED DUII manslaughter investigation he conducted and his post comment about not being familiar with Oregon ORS.. Here is an idea, if your not familiar, leave it to the professionals.
Um, I guess I’ll be the first to ask…what is up with all of these links for “casual encounter” Craigslist ads showing up in some of the posts from the Oregon-based posters?
Uh, no. Not even a nice try.
And I see no RM “A” School, although you can make it as a striker.
If it ain’t in your record, you didn’t do it. No diver school, no EOD School, do not pass GO, do not collect $200.
I too worked under this ass hat before I left. Moral is at an all time low https:cl.craigslist.com/mm2435567.org. I left on good terms but have since moved out of the area.. I would recommend anyone needing more info to contact Ed Vincent
Having a padi cert does not justify a claim to be a navy diver nor does having the Army version of an EOD class certify someone to claim to be an EOD tech. Ive ran into many fakers during my time in the navy when called out they always have some excuse to why they made their claims. The bottom line is they intend people to perceive them a certain way that is not reality.
I recently tried to run against Sheriff Gil, but unfortunately lost the votes.. I am now pushing for Dave Daniel. This sheriff has yet to produce any validating documents regarding his time in service and specialized training.. tgdrt-4739503706%40pers.craigslist.org?subject=strip%20for%20me%20-%20m4w&body=%0A%0Ahttp://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cas/4739503706.html%0A.. I have been trying for some time now to get the documents out, but have been unsuccessful .. I’m finally glad he has been called out on the carpet
I recently tried to run against Sheriff Gil, but unfortunately lost the votes.. I am now pushing for Dave Daniel. This sheriff has yet to produce any validating documents regarding his time in service and specialized training.. tgdrt-4739503706%40pers.craigslist.org?subject=strip%20for%20me%20-%20m4w&body=%0A%0Ahttp://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cas/4739503706.html%0A.. I have been trying for some time now to get the documents out, but have been unsuccessful .. I’m finally glad he has been called out on the carpet
Oh, man. This comment is delicious after having read the rest of the thread.
Gil, you done fucked up. This has nothing to do with politics. Most of us don’t give a fuck about local Oregon sheriff departments. This has everything to do with the fact that this time, you’ve boasted a bit too loudly within earshot of folks who can prove that you’re full of shit.
Hang on, partner. This is going to be a bumpy ride.
State Department passing out rank? Cool. The best I can is Major in the Army (drum major in the salvation army – same thing, right?)
If I am not mistaken the Salvation Army actually has rank.
More than this turd ever achieved.
Hey Daryld, you don’t make any mention about those “Master Blaster” Bomb Tech wings-how were you awarded them? Those are a military award and you haven’t come close to meeting the criteria to wear those, even if you were still in the military. Sounds like a “Brady” to me.
Oh you mean this photo?
Jonn you guys may want to screen cap this before it’s gone
http://www.mailtribune.com/storyimage/MM/20140927/NEWS/140929686/AR/0/AR-140929686.jpg
Here’s a HUGE one in silver….
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2013/01/17/gun-control-pushback_lea.jpg
Dammit Daryld!!! You know good and well you didn’t earn that shit! None of this is a political misunderstanding. You’re just a posing ass shitbag.
All three photos have been archived.
Good grief you guys have some balls on you screwing with a four-star general.
Oh wait…
One more….http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bf/U.S._Army_Maj._Gen._Daniel_Hokanson,_Oregon_adjutant_general,_speaks_with_Josephine_County_Sheriff_Gil_Gilbertson_at_the_incident_command_post_for_the_Douglas_Complex_fires_near_Glendale,_Ore.,_Aug._3,_2013_130803-Z-UF867-193.jpg/1280px-thumbnail.jpg
Just before someone else says it…
Hey, just in case you need some competent legal representation, there’s someone just north of you outside of Portland that may be willing to “hep ya out’.
/yes I typed ” hep “
With apologies to the Beach Boys when I read this guys write up I started humming the tune…”Round, round I get around, get around ooh ooh, I get around”.
not “Hep me Rhonda?”
Little Douche Scoop
Mike Boorsma killed himself over MUCH less.
ADM Mike Boorda?
He looks like one of the Sheriffs on one of those Discovery Channel cop shows where they do all the raids on weed farmers in California, Oregon, and Washington.
I could have him mixed up with someone that looks like him though.
Well at least he has a better porn star ‘stache than most of the poser/embellishers out there.
More like the affable, insecure, morbidly incompetent putz chief of Bemidji in Fargo: the Miniseries. Although he finally did the honorable thing and abdicated to Molly Solverson.
“Two decades of experience as a municipal policeman left him a big fish in a little pond.”
More like a big turd in a little bowl. Fuckstick. When will these clowns realize they can’t get away with their lies, that eventually they will be caught?
Siskiyou County, CA is located across the border from Josephine County, OR. The counties work together on major crimes and cartel pot raids.
Siskiyou County Sheriff Jon Lopey is a (retired?) Colonel in the US Army Reserve with several deployments to the recent wars. He’s also a Marine Vietnam Vet.
Perhaps he might be interested in “the claims” from across the border.
Google “Sheriff Jon Lopey background” for some very interesting reading.
Let me know what you think.
Josephine County is not across the border from Siskiyou county – Jackson County is across the border – It sounds like Gil is a poser ! As for Josephine County – it has never been known as a great place to live or to have a Great Sheriff’s office – So I suspect that the Sheriff is a fool and a loser besides being a loser as Sheriff
The crickets are suddenly very active in Josephine County.
737 first time visitors from Oregon today. Up 833% from yesterday’s Oregon visitors.
I would hope someone with the passion for the constitutional rights of the citizens would at least be versed in Oregon law. I truly believe all law enforcement officers took their oath to uphold the constitution serious, not just Sheriff Gilbertson. He talks of serving in the Army, Navy and Air Force. All he talks of cannot be verified. I have tried. He talks of being a Master Explosives Expert this also cannot be verified. He wants us to believe these accolades because, “He is the Sheriff”. I am a veteran and an experienced police officer. When you have the actual experience it shows when you are around others who have served. I have seen nothing to indicate he is anything other than a man who worked for a private overseas security company. I would be satisfied if I could see his service record (DD214) this would prove all he claims to be. You are only worth your word. My vote is for Dave Daniel a man with verifiable experience and a determination to guide your office in a new direction. Ed Vincent Murphy, Oregon (This was part of a letter written to the local paper) So glade to see you guys have our six. It gets much deeper than than this my friends. I am Retired (Army)and work for this FU%$ Bag. He has never had any of our respect because he lays on the lather of a combat hard PX ranger. You can see right through him. I seriously hope you brothers and sisters out there can finally call this shit on the carpet. He also claims to have been a (Black Beret) in the Navy. He claims he sat with POW’s until their release in Bosnia or Kosovo or wherever he can fabricate without true documentation. If you send me an e-mail I will hook you up will all his claim to fame letters he has posted and his times of claimed service. This has got to end. Sorry for the rant…I goota head down to Ranger Joes now so I can TAB out for my trip… Read more »
Hi Gill,
I am sure we crossed paths I was in Prishrina region 2000 and again in 2004 and a couple of years in Ursoevic in between.
Remember all that training we had in VA?
Remember how many times it was stressed that we did not work for the State Department? That we did not work for the UN? That we worked for Dyncorp International? (or CPI if you were there after Sept. 1, 2004)
Do you recall them mentioning how people had gotten into problems for padding their resumes by saying that they worked for DoS or the UN?
I sure remember, they must have told us that 100 times.
It was during the same briefings that they stressed that this was “a rankless mission” that everyone in the US contingent was the same. No matter what your department or position City, County, or State there was no rank.
You might have gotten confused because the US contingent commander was allowed by DoS to wear a Colonel’s eagle to signify his position to keep things running smooth with the other internationals most of whom were national police of senior rank in their home countries and sometimes had problems with “a rankless mission”
Ooooh! That’s gotta sting, Gil.
He doesn’t know you. He doesn’t know any of us. If his wife held a press conference and spilled the beans, he wouldn’t know her.
I find this all very….. interesting.
I would like to thank all the members of this board. It is you, the truly knowledgeable watchers of the unjust who are to thank. I never had the honor of serving in the military. I did have the honor to serve my community, this very same community and very same department as a Deputy Sheriff both as a Reserve and a Full Time Deputy. I also had the honor of serving the City Police for 2 years as a 911 LE/FIRE/EMS Dispatcher and Emergency Medical Telecommunicator. I was there as many of my brothers and sisters were before his election, and during. This man has discarded countless honorable men and women, and made the environment for those that remain but don’t agree with him a living hell. The office is rife with Cronyism of the first order at the sacrifice of the safety of the deputies and citizens of Josephine County. This is all carried out on the blanket of lies he has put forth as his “Career” in the Military and Law Enforcement. He falls back on his distinguished record when issues of ethics and and truth between he and another person who disagrees with him come up.. and he couldn’t be lying, because.. well.. his service.. honorable.. integrity, etc.. That happened to me.. By him, and I was deemed to be the party at fault, despite my numerous commendations for performance on the job, none of which I wore as a tower of power. I was fired for pointing out to the Sheriff that what he was doing was in violation of local state and federal laws, and in violation of the association contract between the administration and the deputies association, because he told me to tell him specifically if we were going to be breaking any local state and federal laws with the project I had been assigned to oversee. I’m not here to tell my story though, but to thank you for calling this man on his complete and total fabrication of honor, integrity and ethics. I am but one of many who’s career’s and… Read more »
I was told that stolen valor was a victimless crime.
My Ass!
I’m not defending him just because he was a Radioman, (he was a skimmer anyway, blech) but we did have one of our 2nd class RM’s that became a ships diver. When I was in, they were always taking volunteers for diver, the course was taught at our base in Pearl Harbor. And as far as the EOD thing, the EOD guys from the agency I retired from went to Redstone to train, and do wear a pin that looks the same as his.
I know that Dyncorp was recruiting heavily for jobs in Kosovo and other areas. I know a few guys that have done those missions, they have never mentioned anything about ranks.
True, many PD’s and Sheriff’s Depts Bomb Techs do wear the crab, much to our (EOD Techs) dismay. Also, he may have gone to HDS, I’m trying to find that out right now. However, the article I read said he came out of the Navy as an ordnance disposal technician. That is absolute bullshit as his records don’t show him as a graduate of NAVSCOLEOD. There’s no pick it up on the fly and pin a badge on program and the only thing resembling an apprenticeship program is OJT time before you go to school. That doesn’t make you an EOD Tech.
That’s the point–if he had gone to Dive School (at Ford Island, Coronado, or wherever) it WOULD HAVE SHOWED UP ON HIS PAGE 4.
Period.
The late “great” Spooky 8 was also a fake bomb tech with the Chelan County S.O. Reserves until his the bullshit detectors caught up with him. I personally saw his phoney DD214.
Ok last post I promise. This is what he listed for his experience when he applied for a Federal Grant.
U.S. Army – Military Police and Infantry
U.S. Air Force- Weapons systems security
U.S. Navy – Radioman /Diver/ Black Beret
2002-2004 ITPF- Mission in Kososv -Chief of Traffic Services MHQ
1999-2000 Station Commander in Kosovo. Responsible for the safety of over 250,000 people and commanded over 350 personnel.
April to August 1999 Served as chief of operations for US Ambassador Shaun Byrnes
Jan 1999 to April 1999 Regional Deputy Director For the Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Kosovo
1998 to 1999 Chief of Operations, coordinated and directed the efforts of 200 US military and State Department personnel.
May 1996- May 1997 International Police Task Force- Mission Bosnia & Herzegovina “Colonel”
He also has a letter Authored by Ambassador William G. Walker Head of KVM dated 7 May 1999
This letter commends him for managing 522 unarmed international verifiers. States he was a key figure in securing the release of 8 FRY soldiers held captive by the KLA. Stated he spent a week with those captives to insure a safe release.
Wow.
Extra shitbag.
Don’t stop posting if you have more info. Every little bit helps us to tear his story apart.
Looks like he forgot to state that he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. Other than that…looks good.
US Army Military Police? Where and when did he attend Basic and MP School? What unit did he complete that training with? Does he even know the MOS for that career? I was one of those types at the beginning of my career and would love to hear the answers because it will be pretty easy to tell if he is trying to bullshit his way through that.
Compared to everything else, this is a minor detail, but did the Navy really assign fathers and sons to the same ship in Viet Nam?
Got a couple of other issues with all this, but, there’s always tomorrow.
There has never been a restriction on family members serving together and its very common.
Not so much.
Without a waiver.
Father and son serving on the same ship? I find that unlikely for two reasons. First is the Sullivan Act. I am sure that most of you are familiar with that, but for those that may not know, the five Sullivan brothers served on the same ship in WWII. All five perished when the ship was sunk by a torpedo. It wiped out an entire generation of male Sullivan’s. Congress passed legislation barring immediate family members from serving in the same unit. The other reason is the potential for conflict. Seaman Recruit Schmukatelli gets reamed out by PO1 America for doing dumbass shit, so Schmukatelli goes whining to his old man, CPO Schmukatelli. It is possible to serve with your father, but unlikely. That being said, there was a brief time that my brother and I were assigned to the same command, as Ivwas finishing up comm maintenance school, he was just starting. And while at 2nd ELMACO, there were more than a handful of marked Marines serving in the same company, but most of those marriages lasted two years at the most. (Who didn’t see that coming?)
Guard Bum – not exactly true. There are several restrictions about family members serving together, as Hack Stone pointed out.
We’re not talking about relatives in the same unit but serving outside each others chain of command, and unlikely to be activated or sent to the same place for an armed conflict.
I recently tried to run against Sheriff Gil, but unfortunately lost the votes.. I am now pushing for Dave Daniel. This sheriff has yet to produce any validating documents regarding his time in service and specialized training.. tgdrt-4739503706%40pers.craigslist.org?subject=strip%20for%20me%20-%20m4w&body=%0A%0Ahttp://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cas/4739503706.html%0A.. I have been trying for some time now to get the documents out, but have been unsuccessful .. I’m finally glad he has been called out on the carpet
Since no one else has said anything, I will. Just what in the hell is a Navy black beret? Has he explained this to anyone? I may be deep in the IPAs but I don’t remember hearing any squidly counterparts ever referring to a black beret.
It is the one that he wears in the mirror.
As he relives he “less than fantastic life”.
They were worn by the Navy’s riverine forces in Viet Nam. Given his assignments as an RM on a DD and a CG, there is no chance in hell that he was with them.
http://www.usni.org/store/books/history/brown-water-black-berets
Thanks for the info. This just adds to the bullshit from this clown.
I recently tried to run against Sheriff Gil, but unfortunately lost the votes.. I am now pushing for Dave Daniel. This sheriff has yet to produce any validating documents regarding his time in service and specialized training.. tgdrt-4739503706%40pers.craigslist.org?subject=strip%20for%20me%20-%20m4w&body=%0A%0Ahttp://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cas/4739503706.html%0A.. I have been trying for some time now to get the documents out, but have been unsuccessful .. I’m finally glad he has been called out on the carpet
Reading through the comments, particularly the ones from former employees of this jerk, there seems to be an obvious pattern. Gil is a righteous asshole. And his little rant posted to the folks on this board is a perfect example of exactly what the former and current employees are saying about him.
Tighten the ropes boys. This one shouldn’t get away.
Anyone checked out his endorsements page on his website? http://sheriffgilbertson.com/endorsements.php
He claims that he has nothing to do with that web site, however, he might know someone who might know someone who is running it.
How many times has a phony used that excuse here? They never have anything to do with the web sites that show their lies.
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Might just be some randomness, but I googled Bruce this morning and found him right away on Facebook. Search now, poof.
Not sure how this fits in. Bruce McFarland comes up as a designer/ administrator of web sites in Grants pass oregon.
That’s him
So first I would like thank Guardians of Valor for their hard work and through investigations. I did have one request if I may. GD Contactor asked a good question, did anyone check Gils endorsement page.
On Ol Darylds endorsement page, I Found it very interesting he has a letter of recommendation from Major General Montgomery C. Meigs. That is quit an accomplishment being the good General speaks volumes about Darylds character, unique skill set and ability to run any Police or Sheriffs Office.Here is the problem…..Major General Meigs was Civil War General born May 3rd 1816 and died at the age of 75 1892. Now….perhaps that is all true. The part that is confusing me is….did they have ball point pens in 1892 to sign letters of recommendation?? Because if they didn’t, and lets hypothetically say someone else signed the Generals’ name for their own personal gain, that sounds an awful lot like the crime of Identity Theft In the state Daryld is playing war hero/super cop in. Oh well I’m sure its a mistake and a completely different Major General Meigs…..Im sure the Guardians of Valor will sort this little conundrum!
I looked into this as well but there was a Major General Meigs, he deployed with the 1st Infantry Division to Bosnia, serving nine months in command of NATO’s Multi-National Division (North) in Operations Joint Endeavor and Joint Guard.
There actually was a Montgomery C. Meigs later than the Civil War General. Problem is, that Montgomery C. Meigs was not a Major General when he was on command of the 1st Armored and MND(N)in 1998-1999. He was a four star. So a 1998-1999 letter signed by him as a Major General is suspect at the very least.
http://www.nato.int/sfor/coms-sfor/meigs.htm
MG Meigs commanded 1ID and MND(N) in Bosnia in 1996-1997. From Aug 1997-Oct 1998, he was Commandant of the US Army C&GSC at Leavenworth. From Nov 1998 until retirement in Dec 2002, he was CG USAREUR. Pretty sure he was a 3-star as Leavenworth Commandant and a 4-star while CG USAREUR. At the time, as I recall those positions were 3- and 4-star assignments.
If that letter isn’t dated in 1996 or 1997, yeah – I’m thinking there just might be a problem with its legitimacy. (Can’t access it from where I am currently.)
Awesome.
ruh roh
Hondo: If that letter isn’t dated in 1996 or 1997, yeah – I’m thinking there just might be a problem with its legitimacy. (Can’t access it from where I am currently.)
The letter is dated 25 November 1996
http://sheriffgilbertson.com/Downloads/Gilbertson-US-Army-Bosnia-Letter.pdf
Looks good, prima facie.
Ok it won’t let me attach the letter in a comment but the letter from the General is the second too last PDF file on the link GDcontractor provided.
Waiting for the cockpuppets (see what I did there?) to show up defending this clown.
“Cockpuppets” hahahahahaha
STOLEN!
I’ll be using that from time to time now.
I aim to please! 🙂 By all means, steal it!
Here’s Captain Crunch in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVf3AWb1ghE&feature=youtu.be
“What shift do you work?” Priceless…he’s an unpaid S.O. Reserve who was involved in an OIS and like most of us there who have been through the same, the disconnected Administration is only interested up to the point of being cleared of any liability or there were no policy violations…
Letter can currently be found here:
http://sheriffgilbertson.com/Downloads/Gilbertson-US-Army-Bosnia-Letter.pdf
It’s also been archived in case it disappears due to unfortunate “technical difficulties”.
However, a MG Montgomery C. Meigs does seem to have commanded elements of US forces in Bosnia in 1996. Specifically, he was 1ID CG – and later CG MND(N).
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA357012
It’s therefore at least theoretically possible the letter is legit. We’d need a copy of MG Meigs actual signature to do a quick first check.
That quick check would not definitive in proving it genuine (signatures can be photocopied/scanned and the scanned image cut/pasted into another with an image manipulation program). You’d need a qualified forensic handwriting analyst and access to both a known legitimate original signature and the original of the document in question to be definitive about a match.
However, a if it’s a poorly-done forgery that fact may well be apparent on a quick examination of images.
If it’s forgery you want, check out the font mismatch on the letter from LTC Zaitzev. It might be forgery but I don’t know. I haven’t been to FBI forgery school.
The big problem I have is that when Meigs took over command of MND(N) in 1998, he was a four star. It would be quite an accomplishment to jump from two to four stars in less than two years.
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I hope someone has put this clown/poser on blast with the Daily Courier in Grants Pass Oregon. The community he is pretending to play cop in has the right to know the dishonorable Sheriff they have in office. Sounds like he is running a once respected Sheriff’s Office into the ground and dragging down the troops on the way down. This guy needs to be charged with a crime himself. What a joke!
just one?
But, he has the Oathkeepers’ endorsement, so all is forgiven.
Oh Christ, not THOSE mouthbreathers.
I read through all the comments. Here are mine:
Self-aggrandizing to a fault
Inflated ego
Lies like Persian rug
Attention-seeking behavior all over the place
Boring and self-absorbed
In a position of trust (Sheriff) but can’t be trusted
I bet he’d run if someone shot at him. Fire his ass and hire Sheriff Longmire.
This guy is a boring little twink. He should take up writing detective novels instead of being a sheriff. Then he can fabricate all the crap he wants to.
Yeah, except that there is already a much more entertaining writer up in the Pacific Northwest, one Patrick J. McManus who you outdoorsmen out there probably remember from his Outdoor Life humor columns along with his Blight County detective novels. This jackass here can’t hold a candle to ol’ Patrick J.!
Hmm. “McManus” was also the actual name of one of TAH’s more, um, colorful fakes. I wonder . . .
Without further ado – from the past, the “Ballduster McSoulpatch” chronicles.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=16756
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=16768
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=20565
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=29378
Completely different guy, Hondo!
🙂
Pat McManus is frickin’ hilarious, especially the stories (highly exaggerated of course) of his childhood and his dog who he named Strange. I read his stories and laugh so loud my wife asks what’s going on and I tell her “I’m reading some stories from ese pinche Viejo mentiroso (that damn lying old man)!” If you haven’t read any of his stories, he has several story compilation books. I haven’t read a bad one yet.
I wonder how many convictions/prosecutions will be thrown out because of his alleged falsehoods? I mean if he can’t be honest about himself, what else would he lie about?
Talk about endangering public safety!
Hey, Gil! Here’s a little commercial for you. Hopefully, it will take the edge off. It worked wonders for one of our alumni!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS45gE5Mlf8
Have a few drinks and then come back and try to defend yourself. I think you will find that it will allow you to better express yourself. We look forward to your return visit. Cheers!
Give me any document and 5 min and I can make it look like yours. Computers computers computers
Hey Gildo you Dildo….
You haven’t come back to answer my simple questions.
PUSSY.
You’re a liar and a fraud.
/GFY …I will enjoy watching you crash and burn…asshole….slandering *MY* U.S. Air Force like this.
Maybe one day Gildo will work for Phildo!
Well GT,
With the way Phildo and the group just started having a $ 350,000,000 shit sandwich buffet, I’d say that Ole’ Gildo shouldn’t bother filling out an APL application.
/APL Scrubbing Bubbles division.
Your USAF? I’m sorry there Chip but it’s only on loan to you. OWB actually owns it.
*Tap Tap Tap*
I actually have a small piece of it as well….
Well, I must say, the way they’ve been acting of late, they’re lucky anyone would want to claim ownership.
Damn Nuke Pukes and TI and Teacher student touchers.
Shame on YOU!
🙁
Well, I’m “old school” so that kind of shit was a no-go in my day. Besides, when I was in AF ROTC back in 1991, there were a couple of seniors in the detachment who were supposed to be Missile Officers. Let me just say right now, I was not impressed.
AC, that was meant as a compliment, right? 😉
Chip, if they would actually let us run it, am certain we could get it done. We could even let the LT help, but he’s a bit occupied at the moment.
Perhaps, but I do have an Army mindset now so that might not go over well!
🙂
It was neither a compliment nor an insult, OWB. I meant it as a statement of fact inasmuch as I have seen comments over several years here in which you refer to “my Air Force.” So, since I have never known you to lie, I just thought I’d let Chip know that it’s really yours. That’s all.
Uh-huh.
Only problem with all that is somebody snuck in and stole it! They don’t seem to have hocked it for a very good deal either. Just gave it away with no apparent benefit seen by anyone. Add the insult to the citizens who originally paid for it and the airmen who built it and we are into unforgiveable territory here.
Indicative of so much which is occurring these days. While I don’t condone it, I can at least understand a profit motive for much of the general corruption and/or malfeasance. Stuff like this? Destroying things just to be destructive? Not so much.
I just got word that ol Gil here did in fact graduate from HDS at Redstone. That would qualify him as a police bomb technician. And, like I said above, many departments bomb techs do wear the EOD badge (CRINGE). However, this in no way shape or form makes him an EOD Tech. So his claims of being an ordnance disposal technician is complete and utter bullshit.
Having gone through NAVSCOLEOD and working with many a Navy EOD Tech, I already no the answer to the question of was he a Navy diver. Since I am not a dirty, nasty sailor, I will stay in my lane and let someone from the moist side of the house drop the hammer on that claim.
Oh, shit….does that mean that Ex-PH2, Toasty Coastie (I know she’s Coast Guard, but still), and the MCPOs are going to tag team this clown? Damn, and I have no more popcorn!
🙂
He was not a navy diver.
***already KNOW the answer*** can’t believe I did that.
so where’s his “other brother Daryld”?
In case anyone (which I doubt) doesn’t get the joke…..
The good sheriff also did a stint at the Air Force National Guard in Iowa as a security policeman, but again, there’s no training beyond being a security policeman in the Air National Guard;
Dates of Service:
05 Oct 1991 to 29 may 1992
15 Nov 1984 to 05 Sept 1985
Military Education: Security Police Tactics.. 2weeks
Things must have been VERY different in ’84-85. I went to school for a 3POX series AFSCs a short time after those dates, and SP school took quite a bit longer than just 2 weeks. Am I misreading the info, or did he possibly get some kind of special correspondence course due to another MOS that allowed him to skip the school?
His whole life is about using one piece of paper to bypass real training and experience for another piece of paper..
Toilet Paper to be exact.
There is no 3-level USAF security course indicated on that paperwork. A 2-week tactics course, supposedly in residence? Right, without ever being awarded a 3-level?
Sure, he could have been assigned to a WSSF (that’s what it was called way back when) but NOT function in that AFSC until after attending the basic (3-level) course. There is no indication that he had anything remotely equivalent in the Navy. Yeah like that would have happened anyway. In the 70’s the Navy was sending their personnel to the USAF school. 1973 was actually the first time any Navy personnel had specific entry level SP training. And it was from USAF.
That piece of paper from the “Air Force National Guard” is jacked up in a bunch of ways. I seriously doubt that a real personnel specialist even filled it out.
Ok, before I dive into his ANG FOIA let me give a little background.
SC Army National Guard as an MP from 87-93.
Civilian Police Officer 1990-2002.
I was in the AF Reserve from 1999 – 2014 and retired this year. From 2002 until Oct 2013 I was an Air Reserve Technician as an Emergency Manager hence the 3E9. From 2008 until 2013 I was the Emergency Manager and also the Commander’s Support Staff paperwork weenie who dealt with everything an orderly room handles. So with that said:
There is no Air Force National Guard. There is an Iowa Air National Guard and an Iowa Army National Guard.
SSgt’s don’t get MSM’s. They get AF Achievement Medals or AF Commendation Medals if they already have an AFAM. To get an MSM without either of the two you would have to save the Wing Commander’s family from Godzilla and have the entire incident recorded on tape to prove you did it. Killing Godzilla after saving the family would help with getting the citation pushed through.
3P0 school is not two weeks long. And if you were awarded the 3P0 AFSC you would have something along the lines of “3P031 – Security Forces Apprentice Course – 6 Weeks” on your paperwork, not Security Police Tactics..2weeks.
Moving right along; you don’t rate the Air Force Training Ribbon. You have to “complete an initial Air Force accession training program (BMT, officer training school (OTS), Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC), Academy, Medical Services, Judge Advocate, Chaplain Orientation, and so forth).” I seriously doubt you even held an AF AFSC and if you did I would love to see a 214 with that and all of your supposed ribbons on it.
In other words, you’re full of shit and I would have serious doubts in your ability to lead a Safety Patrol contingent not to mention a Sheriff’s Department. You should not be allowed to hold public office and probably have your right to carry a firearm taken away because you are a mental case.
GFY
In addition to others piling on here…..
Yep. All that and a few more issues as well, 3E9.
Don’t really like to play in the world of conjecture much, but there are only a couple of ways the summary doc coming from a FOIA would be this absurd. First, let’s presume that the clerk filling out this form is simply copying whatever is on the original docs. That would make the originals the ones which are jacked up.
Well, back in the 80’s, hard copy forms were not too difficult to acquire, especially for folks like security who would have access to anything and everything on base after hours. Fill it out yourself, then get some flunky (like maybe someone who got caught DUI or something?) and have them slip it into your permanent file.
It is obvious that someone with a complete lack of knowledge of how to fill out a personnel form supplied the info on that summary. There just aren’t a lot of explanations, none of them good, for how that might have happened.
3E9: On the FOIA reply, I believe the listing for “Air Force Meritorious Service Medal” is likely a typo by the individual preparing the reply and should read “Air Force Meritorious Unit Award”. Given his ANG service time frame, that one would be plausible. And most listings for the MSM I’ve seen on FOIAs don’t specify the service (though technically it is a service decoration, it’s the same for all services).
Can’t speak to the school length issue, other than to say that it’s my impression that they merely extract that info from the guy’s records. Could be a typo as well, or possibly a short course from the 1980s that no longer exists.
Hondo,
Agreed it’s probably a typo. It could also be the Air RESERVE Forces Meritorious Service Medal. All you need is three good years to get that.
Before posting I spoke with an AF Security Forces MSgt who has never even heard of any school like that. Could have been an ANG course or something along those line. But that still wouldn’t award the good sheriff the SF AFSC. I’m going to call BS on this guy until a DD214 or something else shows up with all of these awards and training he supposedly got.
Maybe he was a CAP Lt. CPL PADI Rescue Diver? If he has moldy certificates, that would help his cause. But they must be moldy.
He might have been a Corporal Captain. I saw one of those in Kimpo back in 51 at a bar; medical type I think. He had two docs with him.
If you vote for this dick then you should also believe what I just said.
But here’s the *REAL* question….
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.
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What is his stance on CHEESE?!?!?!?!?
He likes it. A lot.
But does he like it enough to consume 7 pounds in a single sitting? THAT is the question germane to the situation at hand!
I hate to say this, but the local media seems to be in favor of Mr. Goober. So with all of yalls experience, especially former employees, I think this needs to be taken to the Oregonian. Maybe even the the Oregon sheriffs association. Somewhere outside the local Jo Co area so his influance doesn’t interfere with a real investigation.
Well, if that’s what they want, then they deserve what they get. You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can’t make him think.
You made me think of this LT..
You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can’t make him think is known as the Wickre Theory.
I thought the Wickre Theory was:
“Yell loud enough, drunkenly enough, and incoherently enough and that will make it true!”
That’s the first corollary.
The local newspaper wants to hear from gil about these and other alegations, but he has yet to agree.
I think that this is appropriate here
Am archive of his more well know failures as sheriff.
http://northvalleycw.org/
Holy cow! That link is a must read! It certainly opens up more questions about this guy and his competance as a law enforcement officer.
Every criminal that this shitbag has helped put away is watching this with interest.
Their attorneys are going to have a field day with this dishonest fuck.
Victimless crime indeed Green Thumb….Victimless crime indeed……
Yo, Gildo
凸(｀0´)凸
Wow…. this is how he treats his employees? Imagine how he treats citizens he does not like…
http://sheriffgilbertson.com/unionbs.php
Gil used the union rule of not replacing duputies with volunteers in order to justify his failure to stand up these groups that could fill in for services cut by the budget. He could have easily charged a deputy to oversee the group and it would be well within union rules. As far as the picture of the deputy, who was off duty and enjoying an eneving with his wife’s leg, is slanderous if you ask me.
For articles on Gil’s more epic failures, take a trip to http://northvalleycw.org/
Someone should send them the link to this page and watch their website explode.
😀
Gil is well aware of this page and the organization behind it. It is spearheaded by his 34 year veteran major crimes detective that he also laid off. In fact, NVCW has offered many times any services the sheriff needed help with. For free.
I believe ChipNASA means you should send NVCW a link to this page here at TAH.
Thanks for the clarification. Their Facebook page has already published it and also to the group of registered members.
I think Jonn posted the other day that there has been a very large number of “visitors” to TAH lately from that area since he posted this thread. They may not be saying much here, but they’re reading…
3E9 you rock. Seriously does anyone on this have enough juice to hand this guy his ass or what? The local paper is paid off by his wife. I understand this whole thing has been sent all the way up state. Even if he comes up short and is walked out. This man still needs to pay for fooling these people. You all have the helm and the contacts to “Rumble Oregon” please make this page worth its word.