Phony Shane Ladner’s real records
You probably remember Shane Ladner from a few weeks ago, the fellow who had claimed he had a Purple Heart which got him a spot in a white-tail hunt and then a seat on a float in a Veterans’ Day parade which collided with a train in Midland, TX and cost his wife her leg. And then our buddy, Randy Travis at an Atlanta news station discovered that he hadn’t really earned a Purple Heart. In fact, he’d been lying about his entire career which had him wounded in Operation Just Cause in Panama, but when that lie didn’t pan out, he was suddenly secretly wounded in Honduras. Well, it looks like he was indeed in Honduras according to the records that Mary sends us from the National Personnel Records Center;
But his records still show no Purple Heart;
And his FOIA says that he wasn’t in the Army in 1989 when Just Cause happened;
But we’re just being irresponsible because we’re not waiting for the records from a now-defunct hospital and from Fort Benning, GA (which is mentioned no where in his assignments, by the way).
It all looks quite a bit different from the DD214 that he’s been flashing around, doesn’t it?
And for some reason, this picture was in his FOIA. It’s not an official photo, but he’s certainly sporting more than what’s in his records, so it looks like he was a phony while he was still in the Guard;
I can see why he didn’t get deployed. KBR couldn’t generate enough nourishment for him to maintain that particular body type. I feel sorry for the belt trying to maintain it’s structural integrity. But he’s wearing at least 19 awards on his chest there, and records say he has seven. Another math problem that he couldn’t overcome like claiming he was in Panama while he was actually in high school.
Category: Phony soldiers
Ugh – What an embarassment to the NCO Corps. Just sickening.
But….but…..but…. His lawyer assured us we were wrong. a lawyer would never lie would he?
Uh-oh. Somebody’s attorney is not going to be happy with somebody’s client. It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature, Esq.
What a surprise.
(I trust the sarcasm is obvious.)
In retrospect, looking at that pic, if he had just called himself a Bunker Buster, nobody would have blinked.
ALCON:
The belt he is wearing is the Type A, MK 1, Mod 0 Safety Release Belt and Buckle Assemblage (SRBBA). Designed to release at 350 pounds per square inch pressure. The release power is similar to that of a Claymore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btNdSroBIns
Based on the photo referenced above and You Tube video evidence, the recommended action is to avoid standing directly in front of Shane Ladner when he is weraing the SRBBA.
Any questions?
As I read this, this was running through my mind.
That “Race Relations” course is no joke though. They have an entire song about it as I recall.
100 men will test today, but only 3, will get the covetted Race Relations graduation certificate.
I’m sorry, I can’t get past his heinous haircut, it’s totally distracting me.
@9. Well, at least it’s not in a V formation. That would be a bit much, I’d say.
WOW! He was so awesome he gave himself a Joint Service Commendation Medal with V device.
He should have served with Jenny Craig.
Wait… 15 years and he got out as a 5? Did he eat the rest of his promotion papers!?
#13, looks to me like he ate the promotion BOARD.
@14, and his sponser.
For a moment there, I thought I was looking at a bad fat version of Bill Murray, but then I refocused and saw it was a beer barrel in an Army uniform. Hmm. That’s something you don’t see every day.
The JCOM with V is a huge red flag. I have never seen that awarded to any soldier.
Wow. I didn’t know the Army made uniforms in size Fatass.
More importantly – if he faked that DD214, he passed into fraud and forgery territory.
Busted! Again! Will defense attorneys will come out of the woodwork and challenge Ladner’s arrests that he made while as a police officer? Integrity issues?
@20
Yup. That calls into question (and rightly so, to my mind), every arrest, every bit of testimony, pretty much ever official act he’s ever undertaken as a cop.
Is this the end of it? Or is he and his lawyer gonna now claim that his PH was so secret-squirrel that it could not appear in his finalized NPRC personnel files, and only the CJCS and CINC (and the Panamanian cancer lab in the Canal Zone) have knowledge of it?
@22
Maybe instead of a Purple Heart, he got a Ultraviolet Heart, one that’s so secret you can’t even see it on someone’s chest.
It is referred to as the Giglio Rule.
Giglio v. United States
Basically, if a cop lies anytime … it can be brought into case.
In addition, if a cop lies he can be fired from his job becasue the department may never be abble to put him infront of a jury.
These are the basics!
Any questions?
MCPO: THis one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giglio_v._United_States
Because that seems to deal with something else. But maybe I should read the whole opinion or something? Is that the one though?
To be fair…and I really hate to be with this fat fucking turd…. but you can stack on the state Guard ribbons/awards to make the rack look top heavy.
@24, 25
LOL. It wasn’t until I looked at the text for the wikipedia link that I realized you were saying Giglio and not gigalo.
TSO … Nope it is Giglio … it speaks to impeachment of LEO credibility and other issues in Giglio vs. US.
Direct from DOJ
1. Obligation to Disclose Potential Impeachment Information. It is expected that a prosecutor generally will be able to obtain all potential impeachment information directly from potential agency witnesses and/or affiants. Each investigative agency employee is obligated to inform prosecutors with whom they work of potential impeachment information as early as possible prior to providing a sworn statement or testimony in any criminal investigation or case. Each investigative agency should ensure that its employees fulfill this obligation. Nevertheless, in some cases, a prosecutor may also decide to request potential impeachment information from the investigative agency. This policy sets forth procedures for those cases in which a prosecutor decides to make such a request.
MCPO- Do you have a cite to the case? I did a search on that quote, and it came back citing the same case I mentioned a minute ago. So am kind of confused.
TSO: I think that’s the correct case. In Giglio v. US (1972), a prosecutor apparently offered an individual leniency in exchange for testimony. That fact was not disclosed to the defense during discovery. The individual later testified against Giglio. SCOTUS ruling seems to say that there’s a duty to disclose such potentially damaging information on the part of the prosecuting regarding all witnesses if it’s material to the case.
The fact that a LEO had been demonstrated elsewhere to have falsified documents and/or made material false claims would probably be deemed material IMO.
Just gave it a quick glance, so the above might be off.
http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/405/150/case.html
Finally!!! The soldier in the picture has been identified!!!
http://forums.militarytimes.com/showthread.php?1564152-PT-in-the-Army/page6
@30, cool, thanks Hondo.
Will read it later. Printing now.
Here is DOJ Giglio Policy: http://www.justice.gov/ag/readingroom/agmemo.htm
K … I will speak slowly for the non-LEOs and Army guys.
Essentially, if a cop lies it can be brought into court to impeach the LEO.
The Giglio Policy requires all potential impeachment issues to be brought in front of the court. No LE agency is going to put a liar on the stand. There are exceptions, undercover (UC) often lie as a matter of business. But that is not the rule.
Therefore, if there is a cop that has lied and has forged a document, how on earth could he possibly testify to the material issues and truthfullness of a criminal case.
Many agencies will fire you outright citing Giglio Policy, issue, and or doctrine. Further, lack of candor in an interview with OPR as stated above is a termination issue.
BLUF: if you are a liar … you CAN NOT be a cop because to can not testify effectively!
Oh … and you can be trusted by your fellow cops!
Oh .. and becuase your are a lying POS and should not have a badge and a gun!
But what the fu*k do I know: former BT and freckled faced dumb ass that I am!
@33: I didn’t quite get that, Master Chief. You didn’t use enuff crayon for me.
As for lying; I’ve had cops lie to my face. They knew it was a lie and I knew it was a lie and they still did it thinking I was going to somehow believe their bullshit. I’m not indicting all cops, because I know some fine ones, however, it only takes a few bad ones to spoil the whole barrel.
At OT … I W I L L T Y P E S L O W E R N E X T T I M E J U S T F O R Y O U.
@36: Thanks buddy, I appreciate it!!
MCPO, I take it you are not acquainted with Chicago cops? The bad ones give the good ones a bad name.
State awards or no, the Purple Heart, the JSCM with “V”, etc., all bullshit.
IOW, one lies once, it’s very tough to believe anything else they ever say. Probably why this guy is an EX-cop.
I am not a fan of Obama’s playground … Chicago!
Meh. Chicago cops give bad cops a bad name. :p
Don’t know the background for it but do know that it is not unheard of for the impeachment of LE or their employees indeed calls into question every case that individual might have touched. Am wracking my brain here trying to remember the name of a forensic scientist in WV, in the early to mid 90’s, probably employed by the state police, who falsified enough evidence that dozens, if not hundreds, were released from jail, retried, and such.
Err, his last name was Zane.
He lied, he’s toast. I’ll wait for the GBI report, next. heh
Here’s an article about Fred Zain. No case precedent cited, but perhaps one of you legal geniuses can find relevant info from what is presented here:
http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/x983709447/No-Headline
I am hoping the local district attorney busts him for forgery and violation of oath of office…then pull his POST/Police certification so he will never police anywhere!
Beretverde: I’m hoping the local US Attorney sends someone over to chat with him about that “interesting” DD214, too. 18 USC 498 seems to say that forging, altering, counterfeiting, or knowingly possessing a forged/altered/counterfeited DD214 is a “no-no”.
Shitbag. I feel for his wife.
That boy looks like he’s NEVER come across a jellied doughnut with extra sugar that he didn’t like!!! If they do this right, he won’t even be able to get hired as a shopping mall “Rent-a-Fuzz” when they get done!! That, and he ought to spend some time being Bubba or “Thor”‘s bitch!!
Alot of people feel for his wife. Still a mystery as to whether she knew of his lies or not. Either way, its his fault she suffered this because of him.
Forging that DD214 should put him behind bars, no softball punishment.