Stalinesque Cuomo has a snitch line for gun enforcement
The (Troy, NY) Record reports that the New York State Police have set up a snitch line for reporting newly illegal guns and magazines;
NY State has established a toll-free tip line – 1-855-GUNXXXX (1-855-486-XXXX) to encourage residents to report illegal firearm possession. The tip line also allows for information to be submitted via text – individuals can text GUNXXXX and their message to CRIMES (27XXXX). The New York State Police staff the tip line 24 hours a day. Upon receiving a call, troopers will solicit as much information as possible regarding a firearm tip then contact the appropriate police agency with the lead to initiate an investigation. If the information leads to an arrest for the illegal possession of a firearm, the “tipster” will be awarded $500.
Maybe they’ll get an extra crust of bread for their borscht, too. I’ve altered the numbers in the text above because I’m not taking part in this clear breach of the covenant between a government and it’s citizens. I also left out the link to the article for the same reason.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
Thus is it ever with Fascists.
The Stasi would be proud.
Ahhh well we all know nothing can go wrong on this one, neither will be abused by the LEO nor the public in general! I wonder how much time until “retaliation calls” start when people just don’t like each other, send the cops there have them go and annoy him even if the guns are legally registered.
Of course the “we received an anonymous tip” will be used more I’m sure, sad sad.
This from the state/city that sells “Snitches Get Stitches” shirts every block.
I’m also sure this “tip” line will be flooded with people that have turned in their local po-po for carrying scary black guns that hold more than 7 rounds.
Aw, I had a tip for them about illegal guns and mags. You should have left the numbers in so we could report the New York State Police.
This looks to have a pretty huge chance of being used for pranking purposes. Probably in a ‘swat team shows up and puts their boot on somebody’s face’ kind of way. However, if somebody should happen to plug the governor’s mansion into the system, I wouldn’t exactly be crying. Not that I’m publicly advocating that, mind.
The Gestapo’s success in nazi Germany was owing to their paid informants and those who volunteered to denounce their fellow citizens. Anne Frank was never ‘discovered’ by the Germans. She and those with her were betrayed. Heil Cuomo! Heil Albany! Rat Bastards. Maybe they should change the Big Apple to a Big Cheese Ball for all the rats.
Well, I guess that’s one way to guarantee that the cops get all the tactical training they need each year. And they’ve got the whole state to practice in! /sarc off
The next step is the kids in school. Teachers will be asking,”Does your family have any guns? Are they locked? Do you have the key or combination? Is there ammunition with the gun(s)? Can you describe what each gun looks like? Please draw each gun on a separate piece of paper and be sure to include your name, the names of your parent(s), and today’s date. Oh–and don’t mention this to your Mom or Dad or points will be deducted.”
Who do we call about government subverting constitutional rights. Ghost Busters?
Rat Bastards. I knew this crap was coming but to see it happen is sickening. Rat Bastards.
I hate sounding paranoid, but if you have any information to do with guns you own on social media of any kind, it might be good to get it off there. AirCav is right. It’s coming. Best not to wait until there’s a knock at the door.
Come on guys, nobody is trying to take your guns. Isn’t that the Liberal mantra?
Twist: aren’t ye a bit auld t’be a believin’ in Leprechauns, laddie?
@2 – You’re right. Calling the cops on someone you don’t particularly like has been referred to as “SWATTING” in some circles.
@4 – I’m looking it up now. I’m going to report NY State Police to themselves and we’ll see if it hits the news before the end of the week.
@8 – You wrote “… Please draw each gun on a separate piece of paper…” But, that can’t happen!! Kids get kicked out of school for such things and I suspect they would in a state like NY, in particular.
“Upon receiving a call, troopers will solicit as much information as possible regarding a firearm tip then contact the appropriate police agency with the lead to initiate an investigation. If the information leads to an arrest for the illegal possession of a firearm, the “tipster” will be awarded $500.”
Okay, here’s the deal. An anonymous tip from a cold informant is not alone actionable. There will be no warrant issued BUT the police may come knocking. Do not give consent to search and do ask whether you are suspected of committing a crime. Say little and say absolutely nothing that will incriminate you. Because the State is giving out money for rats, the State has their names and contact information. This could be a problem for them if the State attempts to prosecute. No doubt the ifo is not subject to the NY version of the FOIA but that 6th Amendment right to be confronted with witnesses could come in handy. This stuff is sick!
@14. The desire to disarm citizens trumps all other rules. This will be one of the exceptions. There is no fighting in school or hitting other kids, either, but then there is the wrestling and football team exception. Did I call them all Rat Bastards already? Rat Bastards.
Several years back (like 14 or so), gay activists shut down a 1-800 number run by a religious group opposed to gay rights. (IIRC, not sure of the issue) Technique was to go to a pay phone and call. Then another and another, etc., etc.
Food for thought…
School children will follow instructions since there are principals like this demorat.
http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/21724149/2013/03/19/principal-cancels-honors-night-in-ipswich
(Comments are hilarious)
Shall we build us a nice Iron Curtain next?
This is precisely why my old man is very happy to have not retired back to NY State after 20+ years in the Corps
Hondo, they don’t want to take our guns. I also believe in the Easter Bunny. 🙂
@9. “Who do we call about government subverting constitutional rights. Ghost Busters?” We call the same type of people who told an English King to go piss on himself in 1776.
I too heard it straight from the man’s mouth that they’re not coming for my guns, right, Santa Claus?
If people in New York state dislike this clown governor as much as you all have said, I can’t wait for the swatting to start…right on his office.
Better yet, why not start calling the tip line and asking ‘what the hell is wrong with you people’ and then hang up?
I like that idea
There is a call database. There is no doubt a separate capture system used by the police for assigning investigative follow-up, among other things. One day someone will get hold of this info and it will be posted online. I’m looking forward to learning who the Rat Bastards are who are helping the other Rat Bastards.
PH2–most of UPSTATE NY hates his guts. Most of NYC would blow him in the middle of Times Square for the asking.
If I’m wrong, explain Bloomberg.
@22 POST OF THE DAY!!
Yet again, NY is my families ancestral home, and we have no wish to return there Because of this fuckery
@19 – No. We wait until the Gov is in his office and then weld the door shut so he can’t get out. Then we disable the phone line so he can’t order pizza or Chinese takeout. We also nail his office windows shut so he can’t open them and yell for help.
Then we call a press conference and tell everyone that the tip line was a joke, and swatting will not be tolerated and nobody gets any money for it.
Besides, that gun ban that he passed applies to everyone, including him. Doesn’t he have guns of his own, or something?
I just called the number and, on the third ring, a lady answered. I said, “Oh, this is real? I thought maybe it was a joke.” Said she, after a few seconds of silence, “Do you have a tip, sir?” Said I, ” Regarding what?” She replied, “Regarding illegal guns.” I said no and that was that except for a comment I made about the insanity of the new laws.
Go for it. The number, though omitted here for some reason, is readily avbailable everywhere else.
If enough people call asking if it’s a joke, maybe it’ll go away
I can’t even be pithy about this. I tried, but then I deleted what I was writing, because this is some serious shit. Paid informants, for the government, against your neighbor. Kinda gives a new meaning to the DHS “See something-Say something” campaign, eh?
Every tyrant in history has done this. It’s not new, but in this country, the “new” part is how open and comfortable they are getting in doing it. Hitler and Stalin were masters at getting a segment of the population to spy on their neighbors and it was a cornerstone for many of the communist bloc nations with promises of better living quarters or extra bread on the table for being a rat, but some people thought they were doing their civic duty, too.
I’d be carefull calling them. If they have a tip line for this lunacy I highly doubt they would have a problem tracing your call and then sending their jack boots.
Another problem I can see coming from this is when a neighbor does call, and the one who gets searched figures out who called on them and then the fun will begin. No good can come from this at all.
You guys remember when we used to live in America?
@34. Yes, that is always possible so what one says is important. No threats, no foul language (even if the 1st Amendment protects), no disrespect for the poor slob on the other end. I called BECAUSE I feared others might be concerned with calling. It’s a toll free line (thanks NYS taxpayers!) and, if they wanted my name, DOB, and blood type, I would have given it to them, the Rat Bastards. There is no legal requirement that one have a tip in order to call the Rat Line.
2/17 Air Cav: true. But couldn’t a pattern or series of calls be considered telephone harassment, or even interference with police business? I believe some jurisdictions have laws against both of those.
I wonder if it will be as successful as their report a rapist/murderer/robber hotlines?
It is very discouraging to see the divide ever widen between Americans.
It is really sad that so many have no idea what the word freedom actually means so they are quite content to slip the bridle and harness on without any encouragement and begin another day serving their masters….
Hondo:
That’s true. telephone harassment is real and would apply IF you or I or anyone else called multiple times, especially IF we were told to stop calling.
However, if we got hundreds, or thousands of folks to each call ONCE, then that wouldn’t be harassment. Conspiracy, perhaps, but I doubt the State of NY would bring charges because they’d look like even bigger fools if they did.
“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? …We want them broken… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers”
Never thought I’d find this material (not a big fan) to be apropos….guess it’s not tripe and guess I was wrong (again) as it seems quite apropos today.
@38. There is a government-run telephone line for Gun Tips. There is no requirement that the line be used exclusively for Gun Tips. If one wants to call and ask how the weather is in NY, one may. Just don’t expect an answer from the other end. If one called specifically to harass the person answering and directed ones remarks to that anonymous individual personally (“e.g., What are you wearing?”), you bet that charges could result! But only a moron would do that, I hope. As for interference with police business, the call is answered by an unnamed person who, as far as I know, may or may not be working for the police (as opposed to the prosecutor or AG) but not in a police capacity. Besides, you can’t interfere with police without being told that you are dealing with the police either by statement or otherwise from the police officer. I could go on but the bottom line is this: It’s a state government, not a private entity, and if one wants to call the Rat Line and say, “I really think this Tip Line is unamerican,” there will be no repercussions. Those who are fearful, don’t call. I just hope (and believe) that my call is not the only one. That would really have me worried!
@36 That was about the same time we still fairly elected our politicians, and actually got REAL, full news coverage from the media.
Ah, the good old days. I miss ’em.
This thread should have 200 comments by now, it seems to me. The Rat Bastards are trying to get neighbors to snitch on one another for $500 per ARREST (not conviction!) How many Long Islanders are going to get even with Fred now because Fred doesn’t clear snow fast enough or Fred’s leaves keep blowing over to the Rat Neighbor’s yard? Okay, I’ll go take a walk but, as far as I am concerned, this is one of THE most important elements to the gun-grab plan. The Rat Bastards.
@44 AirCav, it’s becoming an inverse relationship now. There ARE 200 — or more — comments out there. But people are starting to realize that anything put out on a public forum can come back and bite them. I am seriously thinking about not commenting here at all anymore. I hate it, because this is one of the few really interesting interactions I have, but the fact is, we have to consider that this blog, and all of the other milblogs, are going to attract more and more serious attention from elements within the government. It’s up to every person on here to decide, how much of their opinion and information they want filed for future reference.
@36 – Yes, I do remember that. I believe it was a Tuesday… in July.
Here’s what you do: you call the tip line and when the person at the other end asks if you have a tip, you say the something any of the following:
“Yes. Yes, I do. Invest your money wisely.”
“Yes. Don’t let your (dog/kids) eat yellow snow.”
“Yes. Guido told me to put five on Sharkey in the 8th at Belmont and pass it on.”
“Yes. The rain in Spain does not fall on the plain.”
Then you hang up. If enough people do this, it will be removed.
Well, as far as I know, there are still public phones in city halls, county buildings, libraries, and even police departments, everywhere across the country. Just sayin’, know what I mean?
@45. Well, PN, I suppose you are correct but I hope that you are wrong. If you are not, the Rat Bastards will prevail. Me, I’ll await the personal and direct intimidation if it is to come. I will not self-actuate it or self censor. No one at TAH has asked me to cease and I don’t expect I will be asked to do so. If I’m wrong about that, nothing will change other than my absence. The gun grabbing will continue and the Rat Bastards will remain Rat Bastards.
Any former Stasi or KGB Agent would take one look at that and laugh so hard at NY State they’d urinate in their trousers!