Charlie Kirk shot

| September 10, 2025

The 31-year-old conservative commentator best known for leading Turning Point USA and debating college kids on political topics has been shot. He was speaking at the Utah Valley University about two hours ago. He was kicking off his American Comeback Tour. He’d ironically just taken a question about mass shootings (specifically by transgender people) when a single shot rang out. He immediate slumped at the neck in his chair with a major splash of jugular blood shooting out.

Being a popular public speaker with a very savvy media presence (and an equally savvy fanbase and critics) this was recorded live from multiple angles. Videos are out there on Twitter/X, and other locations, but you don’t need to trouble yourself unless you like seeing disturbing gore. Most of us have seen enough of that to last a lifetime.

Word from his staff is that “it’s not looking good.” Kirk received prompt medical attention, so hopefully he survives. One thing’s for sure, he’ll never be the same.

One man, an elderly white male, was seen by witnesses being arrested. The police have said they have the suspected shooter in custody, so people have made the connection. Videos of this guy being carted off while telling the cops he has the right to remain silent are also out there. Dude looks like Bernie Sanders though. Read into that what you will.

Meanwhile, the left can’t take a moment to wait for information. An MSNBC guest just about 30 minutes ago speculated, “We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration.” Which I hope to hell is just a very, very poorly worded tone deaf commentary on breaking news not having a lot of information at this stage than it was a legitimate theory of how Kirk was shot (especially since it’s a college campus and probably a “gun free zone” where his supporters would not have come armed).

UPDATE ~1600hrs – They’re reporting he’s in critical condition at the hospital.

UPDATE ~1630hrs – Trump announces that Kirk has died, but I’m not seeing independent confirmation of that.

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Roh-Dog

Dangerous these times be.
Pray for America.

5JC

Gosh wonder who did it? MSNBC speculation was it was a supporter with celebratory gun fire.

Fyrfighter

You have to wonder, are they REALLY that stupid?? ( the commentator i mean)

5JC

Yes they are.

NDHoosier

Not stupid. Corrupt.

SFC D

Evil. And they keep proving it.

UpNorth

Stupidly corrupt??

Odie

MSNBC speculates…. How many times have they had to walk back a story that they got out over their skis on.

USAFRetired

I don’t know about speculation but MSNBCs Matthew Dowd got fired for his comments.

“During MSNBC’s coverage of Kirk’s shooting, anchor Katy Tur asked Dowd about “the environment in which a shooting like this happens.” Dowd responded with the following about Kirk: “He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”

Where will he land in his next position.

5JC

He was also the one who suggested a supporter killed him.

The irony with his other comments is that they are true, it is just that he is the one with the awful thoughts and the awful words. That is the part he doesn’t get.

AW1Ed

Where’s next for Dowd? Ask Don Lemon.

5JC

He should be the party nominee for LT Gov of Texas again.

Anonymous

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Odie

Maybe Dowd and Lemon can become roomies and split expenses, among other things. If Dowd designates Lemon to be the catcher, will this be reported as another white man trying to keep a black man down?

SFC D

I’m not sure Don’s husband is gonna be down with that. Or maybe he is, who am I to judge?

SFC D

CNN already has a seat waiting.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Someone ought to tell him that McDonald’s is always hiring!

Anonymous

There’s an assistant dean opening at Mid Tenn State Univ:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/middle-tennessee-state-university-dean-131000789.html

UpNorth

CNN?NPR?

Cptsmith

I see a lot of comments from leftists on facebook celebrating. Apparently this is what you get when you try to have a discussion and find common ground.

Fyrfighter

Dissention will NOT be tolerated

Odie

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Marine0331

Demoncrats are sick bastards. Both parties disagree and always have, but the Republicans, right-wingers, Conservative etc are all for the most part very peaceful about it. The Demoncrats on the other hand spew violence. Sick bastards. My flag is at half-staff for Charlie. May he rest in peace, and I pray for his family.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I refer to them as “D-rats” because I truly believe that they’re D-grade or lower rats and associated vermin.

STSC(SW/SS)

Critical but stable condition.

Roh-Dog

If one looks hard enough one can find video that are 20 to 30 feet away.
Ain’t no way.

Regardless prayers for him, his family and friends.

rgr769

From what I saw, I concluded his spine was struck. If he survived, he likely would have been a quad or paraplegic. I suspect he was shot from the second story of a building about 200 yards away, an easy shot with a scoped rifle.

5JC

Not anymore. RIP Charlie Kirk.

e.

Tragically not now.

e.

But not now. Heartbreaking.

Fyrfighter

Thoughts and Prayers to Mr. Kirk..

And they claim WE’re the violent ones…

Anonymous

Democrats: But, but Jan 6th– insurrection!
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Anonymous

Plus:
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Odie

Perp will probably be out by morning after posting bond and a pinky swear to behave.

rgr769

Not in Utah. And the feds will find a way to charge him, even if only as a backup.

SFC D

The governor spoke on TV, ended with a gentle reminder that Utah does believe in capital punishment and uses it.

Odie

The rgr769 and SFC D. I was not aware of Utahs views on capital punishment. Cue the cry babies…..

SFC D

I believe the firing squad is still an option.

e.

That’s too good for this assassin!

Jimbojszz

General population in prison for life, so who ever this shooter is can enjoy a daily pounding, for many years to come.

Anonymous

Yes, indeed.

“Let’s do it!” –Gary Gilmore

rgr769

The choices in Utah are the firing squad or the needle provided the drugs are available. The condemned still have the option of the firing squad, but hanging was eliminated in the last version of the death statute.

Marine0331

Hang him up by the head of his dick (assuming he still has it) and leave him there until whenever. Who gives a shit.

Odie

Hang by the shortest of short hairs.

ninja

Charlue Kirk died…

Please pray for his wife and 2 children.

Amateur Historian

🤬

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

Don’t remember the source.
“If you want to start a civil war, this is how you start a civil war.”

Amateur Historian

Cops had the shooter in custody, but they have since released him. WTF?!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-valley-university.amp

Amateur Historian

Either they’re idiots or they had the wrong guy, though.

Amateur Historian

Wrong guy. They’re searching building to building for the POS bastard.

rgr769

The person arrested initially may have been a shill, to help the shooter escape. Hopefully, we will find out more about him.

Blaster

If so, I hope he gets charged as an accomplice to murder as a hate crime!

Old tanker

He likely turned into an asshat and got in the way of the folks investigating the shooting. Hell, he may have been celebrating the killing as well. After he was taken into custody it was obvious he wasn’t the shooter, just a jerk interfering.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

My back yard, less than 1/2 hour away from my work.
Just the other side (south) of Point of the Mountain.

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Odie

Charlie Kirk has passed according to NBC.

Amateur Historian

Fox is saying that as well:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/5614615980001

A Terminal Lance Coolie

Word from Trump and many MSM sources is he is dead. May God watch over him, and his family, in these trying times.

For the rest of us, to quote our own, recently departed KoB: Prepare.

SgtM

They are after women (rapes and murders), children (pedos and trannies, shooting up schools etc), old people (knock out games and robberies) and now they are blatantly after us (snipers at ball games,rallies etc) if we start shooting back they will try to declare martial law and want all OUR guns. I now live in a constitutional carry state. The rioting and looting by the Left has not happened out here,yet. They are importing liberals by the thousands out here. A mean old hand gun strapped to your hip used to not get barely a glance. Now you can feel liberal eyes burning holes through your soul.

SFC D

I enjoy those stares. I just smile back and go about my business.

Retired Grunt

I’m licensed, in Liberal MN. The law says I can open carry and everytime i go to the cities, I do. Not sorry. I’ve had police cashed called on me but it’s perfectly legal.

26Limabeans

Same here and I have raised hands to surrender
arms to a responding officer. No problem.
They even returned it.

JustALurkinAround

As KoB always said – PREPARE!

Roh-Dog

“Amen”, he replies with a glass of Maker’s in hand, raised for a real one.

Fyrfighter

Anyone wanna bet that a certain squid will show up and claim it’s President Trumps fault, that Charlie had it coming, or “if only we banned guns!”?

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH Neande

(ssshhhhh………….)

SFC D

I hope that spineless bastard does.

Anonymous

Hey, where is he– on the run, perhaps?

5JC

It’s already started with the “Charlie Kirk is dead, change my mind”.

Fyrfighter

Soulless lefties have not a care at all about murder, as long as it advances their agenda… Change my mind.

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LC

Most people, left or right, think this is utterly terrible. I didn’t like Kirk at all, but I am horrified by this, and feel deeply for his family.

We’re going to disagree on sides here, and I can point you towards the thread about the two Democratic lawmakers who were killed to see a clear tonal difference from this one… but surely the solution here is, at times like this, to set aside differences and just show some solidarity in that murder is wrong? How else do you start to bring a split country together?

JustALurkinAround

I don’t think we need to be together. Additionally, I don’t want to be together.

JMO.

Roh-Dog

Well, “…two Democratic lawmakers who were killed…” is a diamond-hard non-starter for me. (Citation needed. And I’m not kidding. Prove it.)

BLUF: I’m not the most sober or intellectual mind to ever grace TAH, and I’m no fan of echo chambers (see me his-story) but WHO DE FK is this LC chick? Frfr.

Murder = wrong? Hot take, broham.

LC

Sorry, one lawmaker and their partner shot and killed, and another lawmaker shot, but not killed:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/after-two-day-manhunt-suspect-charged-shooting-two-minnesota-lawmakers-and-their-spouses

Roh-Dog

Oh no. Who dib it?

5JC

A Walz appointee.

Odie

A fellow democrat who probably got the addresses wrong but meant to shoot republicans.

Fyrfighter

Or who thought they weren’t radical enough

Odie

There’s also that. A way to say “stay in line” as it were.

Hack Stone

No, he was pissed that these two Democrats voted against continuing taxpayer dollars going to “newcomers”.

SFC D

You don’t get it. The left has no desire for “solidarity”, unless it’s solidarity under their terms and political control. Leftists are happily celebrating a good man’s assassination, a man who would respectfully debate anyone on their home turf. Save your solution for the left. They’ve shown who they are. Again.

SgtM

They are dancing in his blood. It will not end the way they expect.

rgr769

The d-rat congress-rats even interrupted the call for a minute of silent prayer for Charlie and his family. They are vile.

JustALurkinAround

The country is split, and it may be split beyond repair.

I have no desire to sit down and have a conversation with someone with colored hair, piercings, or anything else, to resolve our differences.

I don’t fucking like you – at all. You are antithetical to everything I support.

I want to be left alone. Rand and Ron Paul are the ones I align with.

Just a PSA of where this uneducated idiot stands…

Roh-Dog

“I’m seriously not here to debate (Bourbon relieved me of that responsibility) but let’s be 100(%), if there’s is a possibility of violence as a technique and violence as a skill, there’s one ‘side’ sliding from the former and attempting to be the latter.

I as a Doctorate student in, and target of, Violence I ab-so fucking-lutely hate its practice.

Nut jobs aside, there’s been a asymmetric amount of ‘demos’ proponents using the aforementioned technique versus visaversa.

I dare, and challenge in a soft-handed way, to be left alone. How would that, along with mainstream conservative views (see: Mister Kirk) cause or precipitate Violence to further an agenda?”

A drunken response to seagull lite LC.

Force me to align with you? Cool. Death.

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JustALurkinAround

SFC D, my reply was not directed at you. I just hit “reply”.

SFC D

I understood that as I read it. No worries!

SFC D

“A man reaches a certain age where he doesn’t want any drama. He doesn’t want to fight anyone – and if forced to, he will not fight fair. He will not quit and there are no weapons he will not use. It’s best to leave him alone with his coffee, bourbon, and cigars. Don’t poke the old men. They will hurt you.”

Fyrfighter

Sorry LC, democrats across the spectrum are either celebrating this murder, or blaming Charlie Kirk for his own assassination.

As for not liking someone just because their views differ from yours, and they are not so cowed that they will not challenge others to defend their positions baffles me. He was always respectful and calm, he was just very well versed on the topics he would debate, and would easily tear apart the claims of those that went up against him. I truly don’t understand what’s not to like. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why you didn’t.

rgr769

Well guess what LC, most of us here don’t like you or your ilk. Especially those of us that have actually worn the uniform and encountered our nation’s enemies.

Hack Stone

Who killed those two Democrats? It certainly wasn’t MAGA extremists. The shooter was a Democrat who had a sketchy fictitious background but somehow got not one, but two Minnesota Democrat Governors to put him on a state board. Funny how we are not hearing any follow up to those assassinations. It was Democrat on Democrat violence. Despite what The Squad, Christian White males who lean conservative are not the greatest threat to our “democracy”, even though we are a constitutional republic.

Marine0331

You’ll never get the country all together and it’s nonsensical to think otherwise. As long as there are left leaning loons that think you don’t need policing and that boys can be girls, along with other stupid ideals this is what will be the new normal insofar as political views go.

Anonymous

Can’t.
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rgr769

Wow, thanks for the clarification. I thought Saddam Hussein was the source for that quote.

Anonymous

Saddam probably thought it a good idea.

rgr769

He definitely practiced the principle.

Fm2176

Well, damn…

I didn’t go out of my way to watch him; I probably heard Mark Dice criticize some of Kirk’s views almost as much as I’ve seen Kirk himself. But from what I did see of his work, he was a young man who had a gift for public debate and speaking, with whom I mostly agreed. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with him, he was a husband and father who was yanked away from his family far too soon.

The left are doubtlessly celebrating his death, in between excusing the Charlotte murderer for his actions.

Stay armed, trust no stranger, and be vigilant. If you’re “yt”, you’re a target. If you’re an outspoken Conservative and/or Trump supporter, you’re a greater target. I have a feeling these needless killings are just getting started. I’ll stay in my little bubble down in Bayou Country, where it’s never too hard to disappear (or be disappeared).

Marine0331

He was very intelligent, a great speaker and had a ton of common sense. Rest in peace Charlie Kirk.

Blaster

Just a few days ago, Ole Tampon Tim was hoping for Trump to die. When does the left get held accountable for their ridiculously violent rhetoric? They continually call out conservatives for made up BS, but say,,, and DO,,,violence.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Charlie Kirk was murdered by some liberal COWARD who couldn’t put up with hearing dissenting opinions. Now we already hear liberals sounding off with their true colors, and my bet is that we’ve only seen the tip of the proverbial iceberg as to the asinine, idiotic and imbecilic rhetoric we’re going to hear from the left.

SFC D

When they show you who they are…

Anonymous

Leftist can’t hear anything different.
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Amateur Historian

Disgusting at 1:48

Roh-Dog

“Something ‘bad'” didn’t “happen to” him, he was fucking murdered.

When idiots like those shown in the video profess “…lives matter”, well, that’s all I have to say.

A Terminal Lance Coolie

Carlin had something to say about “soft language” and how euphemisms were the bullshit to cloud the intent of speech, if I remember right.

SFC D

Political correctness is polite censorship.

rgr769

Actually, it was not only murder but by political assassination.

5JC

Someone did something.

That pretty much sums up their attitudes.

Animal

Them Motherfuckers.

e.

A rose by any other name…

ninja

This is what they hated.
This is the family they destroyed.
This is the husband they murdered.
This is the father they slaughtered.
This is the patriot they silenced.

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Blaster

F them! F everyone that supports them (loudly and silently), F everything about them!

Marine0331

I agree but those bastards didn’t silence Charlie. Charlie will live among us in our hearts and minds for many years. There might not ever be another Charlie Kirk but his message got out there to a lot of young people who did have common sense and I do believe that in time the Evil, Commie D-rats will be overcome. Rest In Peace Charlie and I pray for his family.

ninja

Rest In Peace, Sir

Please pray for his wife and children.

So young.

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Skivvy Stacker

How about someone who is Jewish?

5JC

Like Jesus? He was Jewish.

Amateur Historian

Just got reported on Fox the murderer has been caught.

Roh-Dog

Thank God for His will and blessings.

Thank you.

26Limabeans

Immediate trial and execution via hanging like the old days.

Amateur Historian

Which one of the guys on TAH advocated for scaphism?

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I say cremate him alive, the perp needs to get used to burning…

Amateur Historian

Burn him slowly.

26Limabeans

clogged gas jets..

HT3

The Utah Gov. said in his statement about the incident and accountability that his state does have Capital Punishment.

Marine0331

Hanging yes, but not by the neck, by the ball sack.

Amateur Historian

No. Sorry, wrong guy again. I’m gonna shut up about this until it’s 100% official and confirmed.

Again, I’m sorry.

Roh-Dog

Hey Brother, not a one of us if perfect.

Take any apologies… 😁

5JC

No. Still in the wind as of this morning.

Amateur Historian

His weapon has been collected, though. Bastard dropped it as he was running away: a bolt-action rifle.

5JC

They have a distant video of a college age kid. This was no pro, more like a wannabe. That rifle will hang around his neck like an albatross.

Amateur Historian
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Amateur Historian

“Utah Authorities push back presser due to “rapid developments” in investigation.”

The hell does that mean?

Source: Fox

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Amateur Historian

Mauser .30-06 Caliber bolt action rifle

SFC D

Not an uncommon rifle in the rocky mountain west. I know a lot of old SE Idaho ranchers with Mauser action 30-06’s. Must’ve been cheap and readily available at one time.

5JC

You can buy one new at Sportman’s Warehouse today.

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/mauser-m18-usmc-camo-bolt-action-rifle-30-06-springfield-244in/p/1787595?srsltid=AfmBOopse7gPqhnaXrko2lAME2m5Iz1Vcs0LnXKTAHrKSPhYc0M-0Hgf

I think everyone with a few guns has a .30-06 bolt action rifle put back somewhere. I think I have one but I’d have to find it.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Or stolen.

Odie

Damn leaky boats….

UpNorth

I got mine decades ago, for $25.00.

rgr769

According to info released, the rifle contained the fired round case in the chamber, plus three more cartridges in the magazine. Those cartridges had pro-trannie and Antifa markings on them. So, in my view, that confirms the shooter’s motive. Maybe this FBI will tell us the truth and won’t lie to us like they did re the Scalise shooting, where they claimed they didn’t have a clue as to the motive.

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Marine0331

Bet he was a Tranny or at least a freak weirdo. One thing is for sure – it is a coward.

Graybeard

A man who sought to have civil dialogue, and was smarter than the lefties.
When they cannot reply with logic, they try to shut us up, when we don’t shut up, they try to kill and intimidate us.

Like ninja said, only Jesus is the answer to this.

Prior Service (RET)

Cue disgusting lib “his skirts were too short” style rhetoric in 3, 2, oh, it’s already started. Nevermind.

Sapper3307

Is Lars accounted for?

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SFC D

He’s all mouth.

Roh-Dog

Hopefully he stays befuddled in a basement somewhere with the question of which dildo to insert before causing undue mayhem upon We, the People.

I want peace, here, domestically, and abroad. Will break bread with any man asking the same.
This ain’t in his wheelhouse, let ‘lone the same fucking ship or ocean.

Commissar

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=173792#comment-3606684

I don’t appreciate you objectifying me like that. Keep your fantasies to yourself.

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Blaster

Bro, you objectify yourself with your ridiculous nonsense.

Classy! You have such class! /sarcasm

SFC D

What you do or do not appreciate is irrelevant. You are all mouth. Prove me wrong.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

He’s “All hat and no cattle”!

Amateur Historian

Hmph, so you are still stomping around.

How’s it feel now that your party is the party of murder?

P.S. Elon was one of you guys once upon a time.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1965859343351558352

Anonymous

Oh, hey, you’re not on the run!

Odie

😢😢😢

Odie

And fingers too. At least on the keyboard. Nice altered photo in your meme. First attempt or stolen from elsewhere?

Marine0331

And ball-less.

Commissar

I am honoring his wishes by not giving a fuck about him.

My empathy is for his children, and the students that witnessed this.

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Blaster

As expected!!!

SFC D

“I am honoring his wishes by not giving a fuck about him.”

Yet here you are, posting a meme. In plain English, “giving a fuck”. As always, you’re a fraud.

Amateur Historian

Here’s a meme for you, murder supporter:

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Blaster

Well played sir!

Anonymous

Democrats gonna democrat.

Deckie

Except — you do give a fuck about him. Clearly. 🤣

You’re an absolute pine cone.

Skivvy Stacker

Commissar—–Yimakh shemo. That is meant for YOU.

Amateur Historian

Mila!

A Proud Infidel®️™️

I’d just give him a good old “KUTOMBA WEWE”!

5JC

Once again you fail.

Empathy has to do with understanding another person’s feelings and emotions. Kirk is dead so he presumably has no feelings. So you can’t empathize with him.

You are just dead on the inside. So you couldn’t even empathize if he were alive, but still your logic remains as always, broken.

It is just so weird how you never tire of being wrong. Hell, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Blaster

Wow, very well put! You actually put some thought into that and it shows. I’m guessing that it didn’t take you long to deduce that either. Looking back at videos of Charlie, he did some of that and it’s what made him so good at debating. First, he listened. Second, he understood the meaning of words, and third, he used that knowledge against their lack of understanding the correct meaning of words and made it look easy. Leftists wonts stop until they ruin a good thing. AND for what???

Great on you 5JC!

Anonymous

Yeah, sure. /sarc

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A Proud Infidel®️™️

Congratulations shithead, what some Nazi maggots on your side did yesterday is the equivalent of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor.

Marine0331

You evil fuckstick.

Marine0331

You Commie prick – the meme you attached above is a picture of Charlie with his head larger than normal mocking him. You know full well what you attached here. You are an evil fuck.

5JC

Honestly surprised he isn’t banned here.

Amateur Historian

(At Commisar) Doxxing ain’t so fun when you’re on the receiving end, ain’t it?

Commissar

Who did I dox?

Do you know what the word means?

Fyrfighter

Well, that’s a real cry-fest filled with leftist bullshit… His comments on “extremists” and “disinformation” are laughable.. And acting like it’s terrible that conservatives are calling for the firings of these people that have been dancing in the blood, you know damn well that he fully supports the cancel culture of the left…

SFC D

Firing? Absolutely. Death threats, threats of violence? Hell no.

Fyrfighter

Agreed, but proof or it didn’t happen.. the left lies constantly, and “wired” saying so is not actual verification to me.. more likely, it’s made up bullshit like their racist claims..

Commissar

The website exists.

But they have been overwhelmed with right wing zealots eagerly reporting their friends, family, neighbors, and fellow citizens.

It might take them a few weeks to get to the reports about me.

SFC D

It’s wrong no matter what side does it. I do not support this.

TopGoz

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

A PROCLAMATION

As a mark of respect for the memory of Charlie Kirk, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order that the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff at the White House and upon all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions until sunset, September 14, 2025. I also direct that the flag shall be flown at half-staff for the same length of time at all United States embassies, legations, consular offices, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this tenth day of September, in the year of our Lord two thousand twenty-five, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and fiftieth.

DONALD J. TRUMP

Blaster

AND,,, on the day before 9/11!!!!

Retired Grunt

I just heard that Charlie Kirk had applied to West Point but was not accepted. Does anyone know about this? I think with the head and maturity I believed he displayed he’d of made one hell of an officer. Maybe not so much company grade but definitely star bound.

5JC

Yeah, back in 2012. He was a community college student so the odds of getting accepted weren’t great. He was already very politically active then.

Forest Bondurant

As I understand his background he dropped out of college because he observed, while he attended, colleges weren’t offering degrees in education but indoctrination.

He learned himself, and became quite knowledgeable. For having dissenting options backed by fact (generally ) he was murdered for it.

Sadly. A mother must now raise 2 small daughters herself while Commissar and his ilk celebrate his death.

“Prepare”.

Old tanker

All the news networks are confirming he has died.

I watched several of his videos where he did the Q&A. He impressed me as being extremely intelligent, well read and familiar with numerous statistics.

I am looking forward to the ID and analysis of the killer.

5JC

Gee you don’t suppose the killer is a tranny? That would be so weird.

Deckie

Based on how many are saying this appeared to be a professional hit, it worries me they may never find the shooter.

I hope I’m wrong.

5JC

I’m sure whoever the shooter is, is getting plenty of help from his left wing co-conspirators. Hmmm… has anyone checked on HRC’s location? Not really her style but you never know.

Marine0331

I heard it was a cheaper bolt action with iron sights. Just thinking a pro would have used a different piece but with a scope although I heard on the radio that it was a not a difficult shot. Then again, I doubt MOST, (most I say, not all) Tranny’s couldn’t make that shot with iron sights.

rgr769

A 30.06 Mauser bolt gun sells for over $800. Plus, I will bet it has a scope.

Marine0331

Would bet the farm on it.

ANCRN

The shooter hasn’t been identified yet, and there is a lot of blaming “them” going on. Can’t we spend a day just to mourn a life lost?

There will be plenty of time for vengeance

SFC D

I don’t want vengeance. I want justice.

Amateur Historian

An ideal for an ideal world. As for me, if we don’t get justice because of political BS, I’m fine with vengeance.

SFC D

I’m really trying to not stoop to their level, but they’re making it very difficult.

Amateur Historian

Yeah, I know. Me too.

HT3

I saw my gym buddy that is a US Marshall and he said two things…
‘Fucking people’ & ‘That was a pro shot’

David

A pro wouldn’t go for a neck shot at 200 yards. More likely an amateur trying for a chest center shot who can’t make a decent group and hit the neck. JMO

SFC D

Concur, but my guess would be an attempted headshot.

rgr769

It is quite common to shoot high on your target when firing from an elevated position.

5JC

Doesn’t matter, accurate enough.

Odie

Unfortunately.

Forest Bondurant

To add: I’m somewhat jaded about the FBI and suspect they will fuck up the investigation. It strikes me that agency hasn’t had time to purge itself of politically motivated people.

Amateur Historian

I can see that, though my official position on that is wait and see. Under Patel’s leadership, the Bureau has been kinda acting in the way that was intended at it’s inception. But if there is one feeling I’ve unfortunately been accustomed to since circa 2015, it’s disappointment.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

Make no mistake, I WANT TO BE WRONG in this prediction, but it goes as follows: as soon as the left and its minions begin to harvest what they’ve sown, they will immediately throw the mass victim card and bawl while their brainless minions in the mainstream media parrot that propaganda line. Next, they will mobilize the deep state minions that haven’t been purged yet and make as huge of a mess as they can!

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OAM

API-they’re already saying Trump will use this as an excuse to to “seize more power to his fascist goals”. That is a direct quote for progressive radio on Sirius. No, I don’t know what that means and yes it was that confusingly said.

As others have said, I’m sick and have little doubt but am waiting before I consign the shooter to an ideology or identity. I will however condemn the Left for their disgusting remarks and reactions.

There was a call for a moment of silence on the floor of the senate. The Dems erupted in objection. Regardless who the shooter turns out to be the Left deserves the blame for the temperature in this country

5JC

It is pretty simple. It is a dog whistle call for more violence from the left justified under the make believe that they are “saving democracy” by being violent revolutionaries and trying to overthrow the system.

11B-Mailclerk

They have to Save Democracy by raping it to death.

553rd CICO

RIP Charlie Kirk.

On MSM nightly news I tuned in to see anchor saying both Republicans and Democrats need to tone it down. I can probably fill a hundred pages of democratic threats to get violent …. Get in their faces… we’re at war….threat to democracy.
Republican threats? Nope.

Tallywhagger

I want PAYBACK. The frustration is that I don’t have an identifiable villain.

There is no lack of worthy candidates, ALL of media, most of the federal government, and then there are the regularly scheduled scumbags of existence, Pelosi, Ilhan, AOC, Schumer, Biden and his legion of enablers.

This not a case of “a lone wolf”, this is what it looks like when then government IS your enemy.

5JC

That is what they want you to feel. You know how at the school yard when a bully is harassing you and pushing you around and the teacher never sees a thing until you fight back? Think of the teacher as the media and the left as her favorite student the bully. As soon as you fight back she will suddenly see and you will be the one in trouble.

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BrunsonB

Jesus, the vast majority of you people are Whacked out of your minds. I hate all politics but I’ve never seen more knee-jerk “hate the dems” rhetoric than from the Right. And the democratic lawmaker killed “oh it was prob a Dem at the wrong house?” What chronic are you all smoking??? Aren’t most of us former military? Didn’t we get taught better?

And for the record I personally believe the US needs to fight civil war II before any real change happens. Let the US fall like Rome and maybe someone in a few generations will build something better. We’ve no one to blame (neither side of the aisle) we did this to ourselves

AW1Ed

I personally believe you’re an asshole. Welcome to TAH.

5JC

You clearly have never been here on a Tuesday.

The Minnesota shooter WAS a Tim Walz appointee. But you lack the understanding of sarcasm.

Your civil war comments are the only thing I have ever seen posted on this site that is more stupid than Commissar. So you win the ignoble award of being the dumbest person on the Internet today, and let me tell you, that is no easy feat.

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Amateur Historian

Dummkopf.

11B-Mailclerk

Isn’t that the position of the Left? The USA is irredeemable. Burn it down and Communist Utopia! ™ magically pinky swears arises. Or some other unthinking bullcrap imaginary happy ending.

Reality check: those right wingers you hate are the only reason this country is peaceful enough for folks like you to run their mouths in safety. But you won’t allow that to penetrate your closed mind.

Not -yet-.

SFC D

Welcome to TAH. You seem to have unresolved anger issues. Tells us about your relationship with your mother…

Blaster

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

SFC D

I was gonna add in a cigar reference, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Blaster

Yep! Sometimes it’s a little more, but sometimes, it’s just a cigar!!!

11B-Mailclerk

Said Monica?

Anonymous

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rgr769

But the one in the knee-hole is not actually depicted.

Blaster

Wow!!

You started out talking like a veteran and patriot , next thing you’re OK with the fall of the United States, and it be becoming whatever it becomes. You, sir, may be a veteran, but you are no patriot. Your ridiculous post above makes it obvious that you lean to the left, if you don’t fully embrace it. And just like the left you’re full of “ but what about”.

I didn’t personally know Charlie Kirk, and I never met him, but I felt like someone that I knew was killed yesterday. Those on the left, couldn’t beat him in a debate, because he used common sense and shattered their arguments with it. All while maintaining his composure, acting like a gentleman and never raising his voice at them. So, they had to kill him to shut him up. The whole event was and is disgusting, as are those that supported it or are happy for it.

Roh-Dog

I “hate the dems” for what they’ve become and the words they use; yesterday, today, and most likely tomorrow.
I hate them for supporting and financing the indefensible.
I hate them for their deeds and illiberal attitudes.

Full disclosure: up until 2016 I was a registered Dim in CT and voted the same. Was a continuing supporter to NPR and Human Rights Campaign for over a decade. I’d contribute to NORML and ACLU (also NRA-ILA because balance and right is right) during CFC drives.

They’ve earned ire and everything they’ve touched in the last decade has turned to shit (maybe longer but I’d have to admit I was wrong and that democrat part of me still refuses to do so).

Allow me the pleasure to invite you to fuck off and keep fucking off until you reach the edge of the universe.

Amateur Historian

Thank you for inspiring me to repost this:

Blaster

Your honesty is very commendable, and congratulations on at least learning from the stupidity as it evolved and increased.

My mother was a lifelong democrat. She died in 93, she would have NEVER supported the things that the democrats believe in these days

Roh-Dog

I’ve grown weary with government largesse. From ‘urban violence invention teams’ that’re always populated with felons, historic and reoffenders, to failing schools (again, Hartford spends more than double my town per student), to subsidized housing/food/Healthcare that robs from the middle class and gives to the net-takers.

And we’ve put it all on the credit card for the next generations to pay.

I was always told Man’s highest calling was to leave a better world for their children. There is no hope of that today, less so in the policies of the Demonrat Plantation Party.

[Hate to harp on those in cities, they ain’t all bad people. I know and have known this to be true, but without those 100k+ people in those areas my state could have a fighting chance at a duopoly as opposed to the cult we have now in CT.]

Blaster

Agreed all!!!

I have no animosity towards anyone in the cities. I just know that I couldn’t do it. I live at the back of 200 acres, 15 miles from 3 different small towns (each of them large enough to support a Walmart Supercenter, so large enough to get anything that you need and most of what you want). While I don’t just hate people, I know that I hold a much higher opinion of them if I can live my introverted life.

Marine0331

Same here Blaster. My Mom and Dad both died in 93 and both were “died in the wool” democrats. Both, if alive today would be sickened and embarrassed by the Democratic party and bag of shit that it has become.

Blaster

👍👍

Amateur Historian

Never was an official dim, but if I was of voting age in 2008, I would’ve voted for Obama. Got a proper re education in the Navy under his Admin. Became a Republican during that time. Then the Old Guard Republicans offended me pretty bad. That made be become a MAGA Libertarian/Objectionist. Now I still vote Republican, but only because I hate the dims.

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Blaster

I agree again. I vote republican, because it the better of the 2, but make no mistake about it, I have very little faith, respect nor trust for either of them.

How can someone work a job that pays $174K, have 2 sets of bills to pay (one in DC, one at home), pay their staff, and in 3 years they are millionaires?

Yeah, NO!

There are a few politicians that I like, very few!

Blaster

I am conservative and usually vote republican, just because it’s the better of the two. With that said, there are VERY few politicians, on either side that I like or trust. For instance, how can a congressman get an annual salary of $174, have 2 sets of bills to pay (1 in DC and 1 at home), plus whatever staff they have to pay, and within 3 years, they are millionaires?

Even ones that I start out liking, end up being a POS too. i.e. Dan Crenshaw (insider trading POS)

CWORet

Allow me the pleasure to invite you to fuck off and keep fucking off until you reach the edge of the universe.”
I’m gonna use that somewhere, sometime.

Amateur Historian

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Doc Savage

Whoever pulled the trigger just did more damage to the left in that moment than 100 charlie kirks could have done in 10 years.

5JC

Kirk wasn’t trying to damage the left. He was trying to educate and deprogram them. Apparently the programming defaults to murder, death, kill when challenged.

Sapper3307

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Sailorcurt

We are at war. They have decided that murder and assassination is a legitimate tool to achieve their political ends. The fact that so many on the left celebrate whenever something like this happens is enough to tell me that it’s not just a “lone wolf” situation any more.

Once is an incident
Twice is a coincidence
Three times is enemy action.

We’re up to what now…six? Seven?

How long before we wake up?

It’s often been said that to the left, violence is a dial, to be turned up and turned down based on political necessity at the time.

To the right, violence is a switch. It’s either on or it’s off.

Is it time to reconfigure the ON/OFF activator to the ON position?

Slow Joe

I find your analogy very accurate.
I think the reason for the way people on the right of center behave is because, by definition, we are raising families and have bills to pay.

SFC D

I think that the left truly believes that because violence is not the default setting for the right, we are passive and easily cowed. I also believe that the right is very capable of a level of violence that the left cannot begin to imagine. We exercise restraint. We do not want violence. But if they mean to have a war…

Amateur Historian

…Let it begin here!!!

5JC

Seeing how the last crew of ten they put together that tried to take down an ICE facility with rifle fire from across the street didn’t hit a thing until the police showed up to arrest them, I am surprisingly unworried.

Somehow that just disappeared down the memory hole. More weapons were used and more officers shot than all of J6 and it is somehow unimportant.

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11B-Mailclerk

As was just demonstrated, some actually know how to shoot.

Won’t help them. Quite the opposite.

rgr769

That will just give us grounds to shoot back.

Hack Stone

Wondering how the Yentas on The View will spin it this morning. Maybe Whoopi will declare that it is not “murder murder”?

SFC D

I was curious about that myself. Not curious enough to actually try and watch, though. I can’t afford to lose that many more braincells.

SgtM

Ole Whoopi, she makes at least $5 mil a year screechin. Has a net worth of $20 mill and acts like she is broke. Gotta pay dem bills, she is just a working class stiff like the rest of us.

SFC D

Give poor Whoopi a break. Don’t you understand that she’s oppressed?

11B-Mailclerk

$5Mil a year is a lot of oppression.

SFC D

If only I was half as oppressed…

Odie

Didn’t you play powerball?

SFC D

Welllllll I kinda forgot to get a ticket on the way home…

Hack Stone

That’s $5,000,000 more than what Psul earned last year. 😂

AW1Ed

Her hair stylist alone must cost a fortune. This ain’t cheap!

magua
Hack Stone

See quite a few on the Woke Left essentially saying that he got what he deserved for promoting “hate speech”.

Okay, then they just gave a green light to assassinate anyone that you disagree with. Is that what they want.

Second, Hack is familiar with Charlie Kirk videos posted on Facebook, and Hack never heard Charlie Kirk promote hate. His mission was to have an open debate with those who oppose him, exchange positions in a civil matter, and maybe someone will be swayed to other side. If they did not change their position, he did not condemn them. He allowed to opposing opinions at his gatherings, and he encouraged opposing positions to exchange dialogue in a civil manner. The Woke Left shuts down anyone who opposes them, and they do it through threats of violence and actual violence.

5JC

This is the same party that half of want to assassinate Trump, ask them to explain why and they call him a Nazi and run away. The media has them by the brain stem.

SFC D

If I, as an individual, offer to debate a liberal/progressive/democrat/leftist whatever, it means that I disagree with them.

Disagreement with a liberal/progressive/democrat/leftist whatever, no matter how civil, how polite, equals hate speech.

Therefore, I must be eliminated.

This is their mindset.

A Proud Infidel®️™️

To a brainwashed liberal, “Hate Speech” is anything and everything that isn’t in lockstep with their propaganda.

Anonymous

Open debate is “hurtful” to Leftists.

Amateur Historian

I disagree, if he’s talking about not demonizing the left. Dehumanization has been happening for years and the left has been the ones doing it to anyone who’s even a little to the right of them. Anything that can be said against the left is 100% justified.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-drew-warns-charlie-kirks-assassination-shows-deadly-cost-dehumanization

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SidneyBroadshead

Charlie Kirk’s security took him to the hospital, where he passed away.
The original suspect wasn’t the shooter, who is actually a dark-haired skinny 20-something in a trucker hat, sunglasses, and t-shirt.
Trump is putting Charles Kirk up for a posthumous Presidential Medal of Freedom.

5JC

Interesting that they got the “high powered rifle” once for a change.

SFC D

That’s the only term they have. It just happened to be right this time.

AW1Ed

Blind chipmunk theory in action.

Amateur Historian

13:34 Yeah, a line was crossed:

rgr769

Supposedly, the LEO’s have his name, but won’t release it as they haven’t caught him yet.

Amateur Historian

Ah, for f–k’s sake!!

“A man was arrested following a foot chase after entering the crime scene where Charlie Kirk was shot and killed to take photos, authorities said Thursday.

The unidentified man was taken into custody just after 11 a.m. local time near the Utah Valley University campus, the Utah Department of Public Safety said.

The suspect approached the shooting scene while ignoring police crime scene tape, police said.

“He entered the secured area and began taking photos of the scene and Law Enforcement Officers,” a police statement said. “When an agent ordered him to stop and attempted to identify him, the male fled on foot but was soon apprehended by other officers. He has been booked into the Utah County Jail for felony obstruction and trespassing.”

The arrest was not related to Kirk’s murder.”

Source: Fox

Hack Stone

We need a new thread to track all of those on the Woke Left celebrating his murder loosing their jobs.

First up is a trans comic book writer who had a series released for one day before being kicked to the curb by DC Comics.

https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-cancels-gretchen-felker-martin-red-hood?fbclid=IwZnRzaAMwLRVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHpBngjUJxD3sgE_sPG7jv-OVkoBTvwQq2yowbGXHDec-0qxGfXcK0eO4cbMe_aem_-WtN57QbGxsjNTm5uRQ24w

Anonymous

Too bad, so sad. /sarc

Hack Stone

This shit just keeps getting better. Either of the employees could portray Comic Book Guy if they ever made a live action version of The Simpsons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/office-depot-in-portage-fires-employee-over-refusal-to-print-charlie-kirk-vigil-poster/ar-AA1MsqPJ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

ETC(SS)

Dreadful to see the video. The FBI seems to be living up to the label of Famous, But Incompetent with Kash Patel getting way out ahead of the facts.

After the Richard Jewel debacle in the Atlanta bombings years ago you would think the FBI might wait for the facts first.

Ugly ugly day. Throw in that another school shooting happened too and it makes one wonder just what is wrong with people. We seem to have a particular kind of crazy people that we can’t seem to identify and/or stop.

Amateur Historian
Amateur Historian

Nevermind. Threats were made against the academy and it went into lockdown. A jumpy midshipman on watch mistook authorized LEOs as the threat and engaged them. He was wounded as a result.

Information is from URL above.

Still a developing story, but this is the info I have right now.

SgtM

So when are the admins going to get rid of Lars Taylor who lives in Oakland going to block his ass. You want his apartment address just down the street from his liquor store? He promotes hate and is a troll. I for one am tired of his hate speech. He calls all of us cultist and expressed his hate of CHARLIE. even MSNBC fired a guy for that. This is not a supporter of the Us with that pos on this blog. Shame on you.