Michael Prysner; true communist hero
If you google his name, you’ll find hundreds of websites that call Mike Prysner a “true war hero“. Why? Well, because he opposes the war against terror, of course. The Left likes to see buffoons who wear their uniform at their protests. Prysner is more than willing to fill the boots for them. But, Prysner has other aspirations, too.
See, he’s already tried to use his anti-war and veteran credentials to run for political office in Florida in the “Party for Socialism and Liberation”.
He’s already joined and then left the IVAW because they weren’t radical enough for him. He co-formed March Forward, a veteran contingent of the Maoist ANSWER. Here’s a slickerized version of his testimony at Winter Soldier that he’s been sending out to the Leftists around the internet;
Prysner claims that he tried to be proud of his service, but that he’s ashamed. That’s funny, because I can hardly find a picture of him in which he’s not wearing some remnant of his uniform.
So what did this witness to war crimes and racism do in northern Iraq that made him such a hard-bitten anti-American? He was a ground surveillance radar guy. Here’s his records;
He served as a Imagery Ground Station (IGS) Operator and a Common Ground Station (CGS) Operator with the 10th Mountain Division. It seems to me that if he saw all of the bad things he described during his tour, and he’s wracked with such guilt, he’d report it. Even though, in my experience, he probably didn’t see much at all, since his job was to stare at screens. But, ya know, Iraq was a different war and maybe he did actually work outside the wire – but there’s no Combat Action Badge in his records which tells me he didn’t see much at all.
The only way he can become a hero is to be called one by people who have really, really low standards for heroes.
Just to show what type of Communism Socialism that Mike is supporting.
Category: Iraq Veterans Against the War, March Forward, Phony soldiers, Usual Suspects
This Turd was being Lauded on a British website, ARRSE as making good points. I useed the info here to give some balance to it.
Well one thing that can be said in his favor was that he joined before 9/11 unlike some of the others that we have seen.
Also I do not see what makes him extraordinary.
Check out this reprehensible speech by Prysner:
I’ve seen Prysner speak quite a few times, he’s a real piece of work. He’s become the darling of International ANSWER in Los Angeles. He even seems to have a small bunch of young, swooning, female groupies – mostly the daughters of the older Communists who attend every protest in LA.
A few weeks ago I filmed him (Prysner) get into a scuffle with a passer-by who was so offended by Prysner and his little group of ANSWER protesters that he started screaming at them, calling them “Traitors!” and yelling at Prysner, “You go live under the Taliban, see how you like!”. I keep meaning to post it but I’ve become very lazy keeping up my little website.
If you have any doubts about his Marxist sympathies, here’s a picture I snapped of Prysner this past October manning his booth in front of the Federal Building in Los Angeles:
Is that the straight-armed salute the two asshats to Pysner’s right are giving? Just asking.
How come all of these guys who witnessed all of these “war crimes” and “atrocities” never reported them? That would seem to make them equally culpable, if anything really did happen. Must be the images on his ground surveillance radar was fuzzy those days.
“Party for Socialism and Liberation”. Heh, more like the Party for bureaucracy and micromanagement.
I wish for once these lobotomized commies would do a pinch of reading about the life of Karl never had a real job Marx…
Maybe that’s who Carl Webb gets his life lessons from? Karl Marx?
Except, of course, that Marx was an absolute racist who would have sent Carl back to Africa. For a price.
Sounds like Prysner joined the Army thinking it was just another government job…..
Another example of PTSD (PowerPoint Traumatic Stress Disorder, in his case).
Well, Jonn, the reason he’s always wearing remnants of his uniform while he’s dissing the military is so he can give cred to his commie screeds.
I’m still trying to find anything positive in the message of IVAW, or their works. Yeah, I know, he’s not a member of IVAW anymore, however, he was at one time and it shows which sort of person is drawn to IVAW to begin with.
From what son told me, everyone involved in something making them eligible for the CIB or CAB damn well wants it; the fact that he doesn’t have one would indeed indicate that he didn’t go out on patrols or doorknocking.
“a picture I snapped of Prysner this past October manning his booth in front of the Federal Building in Los Angeles”
Geezus, another Dou’Che admirer… I’d really like this toolbag to meet my Cuban Uncle & some of his pals in Miami.
Did a lil research. This Prysner and crew are affiliated with The Progressives of California, leads right back to ANSWER, TIDES, yada in a round about way.
FOIA will be filed 12/28/09.
Junior? “toolbag” is too much of a compliment for this a$$hat.
How does this moron square his “guilt” of arms with idolizing shitstains like Che?? It’s interesting that he conveniently forgets what Che and the Castro brothers did in Cuba, yet he bitches about us using arms?? I’m sure he would be all for taking up arms and killing to forward his ideology in the name of “progress” and “social justice”, huh?
He’s a dumbass, plain and simple. Looking to get his 10 minutes of fame. Although he has more credibility than Chiroux. I’m surprised he’s in LA, when he ran for office in Florida. Was he a carpetbagger, or something?
His his “guilt” of arms is for fighting on the wrong side.
Carl, you still haven’t suck started that shotgun yet?
He sucks other things
He sucks other things
I was waiting for you to stick your nose in this Carl, ya pussy. Why don’t you just turn your attention to begging someone to use their couch to sleep on since you’re too lazy and worthless to do anything else? As if you would have the intestinal fortitude to do anything, anyway.
I’m going to go easy on you, Carl, since I’m still in the afterglow of niceness after gettng to spend some time with my grandson, who at the age of 2 1/2, can probably score higher on the ASVAB than you did. If you need any help with your community college entrance exams, let me know and I’ll have him take them for you so you can get in. Mmmmmkay?
Remember to put your helmet on before you go out to the curb to wait for your shortbus to get there……safety first, Carl.
“His his “guilt” of arms is for fighting on the wrong side.”
Thus spake the strategist-supremo of the American marxist underground, command specialist major Webb,slactivist-maximus, one who will leap off his borrowed couch space like a ferocious rabbit to slay the capitalist beast… And swamp the American working class with bureaucracy and micromanagement for their own good….
Actually, if komrade Webb decides to roll off his couch & become an active radical, I think the fry cook is gonna splatter himself all over some homemade bomb factory following the Weather underground nail bomb recipe…
Anyone notice that all of “Freddy the Freeloader’s” posts are in the wee hours of the morning? I wonder if he’s doing a B&E on the local library in those wee hours or if he’s conned some one into letting him use their computer? And couch? He’s probably helping himself to their food, money and phone line too.
And you have done what with it again?
Hey Carl,
That means you’re a highly educated fry cook/janitor who doesn’t have his own couch. Your point?
Oh, and I know I did better on all three of those test than you, but we pretty much already knew that.
LMAO Spork, great line. Apparently Webbie hasn’t done anything with it, other than hone his freeloading skills.
Nice to see the “afterglow of niceness” is running so strong in this forum.
I’m sad to say that I *have* seen such cowardly abuse directed at someone, merely because they hold a different point of view, before now, the internet is rife with it. Congratulations, you have successfully diverted attention from the actual content of Carl’s post with your denigrating tirade. Incidentally, a socialist viewpoint does not inherently demand one’s approval of everything every Socialist leader has ever done.
As for this “reprehensible” speech by Prysner:
How is it reprehensible Ringo the Gringo? Is it because he speaks a different truth to the one you know? The same corporations who control the media DO also profit from war. Whatever his motives, Prysner has rightly spoken out against a corrupt system that benefits the rich few at the expense of poor masses. It’s only because he’s a veteran that anyone listens; that, and the fact that his statements hold more force coming from a costume (uniform) you would expect to contain a different point of view, are the reasons he still wears it. I doubt many posters on this site gain any benefit from US aggression around the world, you’ve just bought the line the government has fed you.
Oh, I dunno, Pothers–maybe it’s that whole he’s a shitbag thing that kinda undermines his credibility with all but the most die-hard Koolaid drinkers such as yourself.
BTW–I hear North Korea is quite nice this time of year. Have you considered a visit?
NHSparky I’m amazed you can ascertain enough about my views from my previous post to label me a Koolaid drinker. I suppose it’s in keeping with your general air of antipathy towards anyone expressing an opinion different to your own. You’ve really nailed that slag-someone-off-rather-than-tackle-their-argument approach.
I have to say I prefer Prysner’s speech here:
I know very little about Prysner, why do you consider him a shitbag? The things he says about the system, the real reasons for US wars, etc. are exactly correct, and however much of a “shitbag” he may be, I’m glad that these things are being voiced in a public forum.
The fact is that Capitalism is based on the conceit of infinite growth. Surely you must recognise that such a dynamic is unsustainable on a planet with finite resources?
As for your jibe about North Korea, I must say I’m not much of a Communist either, certainly not the sort of communism espoused by Kim Jong-il. Capitalism and communism are two sides of the same materialist coin, the former synthesises an impression of freedom and hypnotises us into submission with corporate advertising and media distractions, the latter bludgeons us into submission through persecution and negation of individual rights. Capitalism achieves its ends more effectively, people don’t generally utilise the power they have, but go through life asleep to the reality that in our trance-like state the freedoms we so value are gradually being taken away from us. Our pursuit of luxury blinds us to the wider ecological reality, just as that same pursuit blinded the Romans to their social reality and brought about their downfall.
I would prefer an alternative way of living that recognises our symbiotic relationship with nature, that does not take more than it needs, that puts spiritual development before material accumulation; because our current approach is flawed, it is absolutely unsustainable, and I have no doubt that it will fall, just like all previous civilisations that fell into involution.
What exactly is wrong with being a communist or socialist?
Pothers, I don’t know what to say. You are one of those guys I have ran into so many times in my life. You like to act like you are writing something profound or educational. If you are looking for a more symbiotic relationship with nature then why the fuck are you on a computer? Now granted I have anything against you being a hypocrite…it doubles your chances at being right. Just keep reading your Ted Kaczynski and living the fantasy of freezing your nuts off in the woods while trying to spin your own wool.
Anonymous, I’ll put it simply, they are both systems are based on envy. Anyone who is living better than you has to be made worse off so that anyone living worse than you can be made better. Sounds good on the surface, but it does not involve free will. Also, both systems stifle innovation by removing incentive. Both systems make laziness an incentive. So that is what is wrong with being a communist or socialist.
Hello there IVAW Board member. Oops! I meant “Anonymous”. I don’t think there is anything wrong with being a socialist. If you want to peruse Socialism, by all means do. The problem I’ve had was with the ISO is them taking everything over to push those goals. They come in, take a group over, and run it right into the ground. Which is proof positive that they are not really interested in ending the wars, but expanding themselves.
Furthermore, if you say anything bad, no matter how truthful, you are made into a leper.
I laugh at both sides of the equation sometimes because they all want “truth”. Just don’t tell the truth about either side to said parties. The “right” and the “left” share that in common more than they care to admit.
Because if the people of IVAW tried to pull off the stunts they did in the Army in places like Russia they would have been shot or worse
Look up Order 227 “Not one step back”.
Anon: Nothing wrong with equally shared misery. If you want it, go to a communist country and have at it. I’m sure the Berlin Wall was put up to keep the West out; right?
Besides, it’s worked so well where ever it has been implemented, that’s why there are so many boats and stuff going towards Cuba; right? Also, that garden spot called North Korea is such a wonderful place that people are dying to get in; or is it out? I get confused about that one.
My favorite thing is those that espouse the virtues of communism, while living in the free capitalist world, having never spent anytime under the communist rule they want us all to be under. That’s the definition of a true hypocritical moron.
North Korea has made some very important discoveries. Did you know that eating grass was a part of a healthy diet? Neither did I untill Kim Jong Il said so. They are also some of the best photoshoppers in the world…Making everyone taller so they don’t feel bad standing next to Kim.
Not to mention the Nork’s being world-class counterfeiters. But, in the last year, they’ve had to broaden their knowledge base, cuz somehow the dollar seems to be declining in value faster than a skydiver with a malfunction in both chutes.
And, Casey, you’ll stay in IVAW’s bad graces if you keep outing them when they show up.
@UpNorth – You have no idea how much sleep I loose over being banned for life months after I left. lol
Casey, I know you lose a lot of sleep over it. Every time you call me crying in your hard cider that they kicked you out after you had left and that Matthis is a big poopey head. Plus, the fact that those models at the show kept asking you about the cute guy that goes by Old Trooper……..It’s ok, buddy, we’ll get through it. 🙂
That was you??? That creepy old guy staring at the models??? You know how hard it is to photographing women when I have somebody like you around? UGH!!!
The only time I call people crying is with laughter everytime one of them calls me a racist. I have slept with women of many different races. If that’s not tolerance then I don’t know what is. lol Oh, wait, because I have sex with Women I must be sexist. Geez, just can’t win with that crowd.
Casey, they’re working on making your ban retroactive to 1991. But, they ran into a problem, no one can figure out how many years that is.
Is it me…or does Prysner look like Major Frank Burns…just sayin
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You’re all so misinformed. Open your minds, take a look at what’s really going on…..Why do you insist on calling him a Communist when he clearly ran for a Socialist proponent? Let me guess, ‘It’s all the same bullsh*t?’. Don’t close your minds, truly think for yourself. If any shred of your conscience/soul/morality/free will remains, USE IT TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH, THINK FOR YOURSELF!
Or take the low road, dismiss this as your perceived notion of Commie, Leftist, Liberal what have you. Be Sheeple, BAAAAAAAAA!
Seriously guys, do some reading, if you are not able to think outside of the framework of propaganda fed to you by Fox News and other corporate-controlled medias you will never be able to see the world from a different perspective. And there are many, and many are much more conducive to man’s well-being to fair societies to life that encompasses more than just work and accumulation of material goods. What you are being told is as distorted as the propaganda of communism that you so much despise. Spend some time actually thinking, go outside of your usual information sources – read the works of philosophers, thinkers, learn to be critical. Why do you assume that someone who criticized the system currently in the US is anti-American? Can’t you see the flaws, distortions and faults of corporate-run America? It’s not about bringing in Communism but about making changes to the system of running society so the system support the whole of society rather than just the elite few. THINK!!
I have no idea why you commie fucksticks think that because we disagree with you, we don’t read. You know that’s the first thing out of the mouths of Ron Paulians, too.
Seems to me that socialists/communists want to change America – that’s anti-American right there. Don’t you see it? Are you really that fucking stupid?
Oh, yes, let’s listen to psuedo-intellectual types. Yeah, I read a lot, but unfortunately for your sterotype, I don’t watch Fox News; sorry. I don’t need some college puke, who hasn’t lived in the real world, to come on here and tell me to think. I do think, plus I have life experience, which is something you haven’t gotten, yet, plus I have that little thing called history. Yeah, when you read, maybe you should pick up a history book now and again and put the Chomsky down for a while?
Can’t you see the flaws, distortions and faults of corporate-run America? It’s not about bringing in Communism but about making changes to the system of running society so the system support the whole of society rather than just the elite few. THINK!!
What is it with throwing the word “corporate” in everything ye clear thinkers and disavowers of “stereotypes” Is corporate necesarily evil? I already know your answer, the question is rhetorical. I’m certainly not an elite but I believe the “system” supports me just fine.
The money quote from the commie, “support the whole of society”. Will they ever get it that people need to support themselves first? Nope, they want the dregs to be supported, no matter what.
Wow, I’m an “elite few”! Must be because I like work and stuff and provide for my family, allowing for a realatively high standard of living after 20 years of defending the rights of reprehensible dumbasses. Being an “elite few” is cool.
Why do the lefties always make the assumption that anyone who disagrees with them is some sort of trailer park denizen with the background of a frakking piece of cardboard. We read, we read quite a lot actually, but we still think your a dumbass. Funny how that freedom thing works. Your social justice is my gov’t oppression, your social fairness is my stagnation of the soul of this country. America was founded on the concept of individual freedom. The freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail. All that on your OWN. If we step away from that basic concept, then we kill what makes this country so incredible and distinct.
You will, I hope, understand why some of us might take great umbrage to you and what you espouse.You desire nothing less then the lobotimizing of the soul of this country. We, those who disagree with you, don’t like that idea.
Why is it that people who puff themselves up with names like “shocked by the ignorance” display such one-dimensional mentalities? Are you really convinced that using “Fox News” and “corporate” as derisive, insulting words qualifies you as some kind of “intellectual?” So I assume that you’re some type of well-read, deep-thinking, highly educated individual? Well please, educate the ignorant.
Since you encourage us to read and think, do share with the unwashed here what books would enlighten us. Read philosophers? Okay, sounds good. Do you find Rousseau and his concept of the noble savage a more accurate world view than say Burke’s more conservative critique based on his observations of the French Revolution? Or do you find somewhat more radical critiques of the state that you find in the works of Lysander Spooner more akin to your views?
Please, Mr. educated, non-Fox watching intellectual, we need to know. I assume that you are midway through your first year of community college or so, thus making you a truly enlightened soul who was put on this earth to help bring the knuckle-dragging soldiers out of their ignorance. I’m on the edge of my seat shoving cheese doodles in the mouth I breathe out of waiting for my intellectual superior to take me school.
i just want to be part of the conversation.. you people are all so smart..
Holy crap! People with an IQ less than 130 are a totally different species.