Mark Menting AKA Kage Gaigan; another phony hiding in plain sight

| May 17, 2017

The other day we talked about Patrick Flores who was hiding in my “friends” list on Facebook. Well, here’s another one that I was warned about by alert friends. He was using the name Kage Gaigan, but his actual name was Mark Menting. The folks at Military Phonies did the research after I confronted him;

After that PM with him, Menting unfriended me and later denied that he did that. You know, brave soul that he is.

Here’s what he claimed;

Menting sent me tips on phonies and busted a few himself;

Well, like all phonies, he was eventually busted and even his confession was bogus;

The Army says that he spent six months in training and the rest of his time was spent in the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) 1984 – 1990, discharged as a Private (E-2).

So, how did he fool me? Because we all want to believe these clowns, we don’t want to file for FOIAs on everyone we know. And, honestly, I don’t know many of the hundreds of friends I have on Facebook. Luckily, some of my friends are more vigilant than I am, and they look out for me.

By the way, Menting’s biggest defender during the investigation was John Naputi, another phony.

Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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AZtoVA

One (of many) reasons I don’t friend anyone on Facebook that I don’t know personally.

3E9

Oh fuck him. Dipshit!

Graybeard

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

HMCS(FMF) ret

So Graybeard, are you saying the following:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

But your forgot to tell the world that Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a wolverine felching, hobo blowing, ballsack working, ass hamster!

Animal

I’m not the smartest guy in the world, but that’s not what I took from that at all Senior Chief. What I understood him to say:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

Graybeard

Clean copy, Animal.

Graybeard

Thanks for taking up the slack for me, HMCS(FMF) ret.

Being I can only do this during my slack time at work, I only had time to write
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

before I had to go do what they pay me to do (whatever that is).

MSG Eric

Wait, I’m a bit confused. Are you saying:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

OR, are you saying:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

Because I got a bit lost in there and wanted to be sure I copied correctly.

MSG Eric

So hang on a second. Just to be sure, were you saying:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

OR, were you saying:

Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a liar.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not Airborne.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) did not serve any active duty.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a fraud.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is busted.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a lowlife scumbag.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is not worthy to clean the boots of a real Airborne soldier.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is a high-drag low-speed E2 dischargee.
Mark Menting who is not named Kage Gaigan (but says he is) is now going to endure his Google-fame forever.

I just want to be 100% that I copied you correctly on that because I got a bit lost in there somewhere.

Jarhead

Golly Beaver, if he’s a ass-hampster then he must be a needle-dicked parakeet fudgepacker.

Wilted Willy

Here we have another bogus ass clown that should be made to do all of the phony claims he has done. Make him serve all of the things he has claimed! If they started making these ass hamster cocksuckers do all they have claimed this stolen valor shit would dry up quicker than a popcorn fart! Just my opinion………

Mick

Now that’s one awesome poser ‘knife hand’ photo posted above.

It almost made me flinch just a little bit. Nah, maybe not.

Looks like he might have picked that up from GySgt R. Lee Ermey on one of his TV shows. Or maybe he’s seen General Mattis in action.

‘Knife hand’: totally legit.

dark wolf

What’s “knife hand”? What are you talking about?

RGR 4-78

Deadly knife hands, my team leader used to joke about those.

Hand to gland fighting with open hands was taught years ago.

26Limabeans

Fuckin dorky giant shades.

Some Guy

They go well with those neon green laces. Must have been on profile for that pic.

ChipNASA

Those are Safety PT belt Shoe Laces and also double as infrared markers for combat identification.
/the more you know.

IDC SARC

fukkin ass clown

2-14 Cav

I’m not an IRR expert (having served in it but essentially forgetting I was even still associated with the Army in some way) how he got all those other schools and such? I mean he was a straight embellishing poser. But it seems like for an IRR dude he achieved some fairly interesting things, no? So why the need to inflate his short stint (won’t say career because it surely wasn’t).

But I’m curious about how we really weed out the chaff; I personally carry my DD-214 in my pocket when I’m at Veteran and military events (I’m conscious that as I may look at people with a discerning eye or question some folks, there may be someone who questions me some day). Is the simple fact that I feel the need to be prepared to defend my service sad??

Sandman

The things he claimed he did while on IRR, are lies also. I called him out on those when he published his first confession. He then quickly modified his confession to remove the IRR schools.

2--14 Cav

Ah ok – I see that I also was mistaken (I was looking at the records from another FOIA from another post and got them crossed). I didn’t think it would be possible to attend schools or attend courses while on an unpaid IRR status.

I retract my statement – he clearly is a fucktard and bang-up work calling him out!

Sandman

In response to your second point, we are always going to run into those with bar tales of heroism. I can’t walk in to a VA hospital without seeing a sea of SEAL, SF, Ranger ball caps everywhere. Most of us understand there are going to be braggers, and embellishers out there, we try to weed out those who not only steal valor, but attempt build a fictitious life around it and also profit from it. In Menting’s case he was the proverbial ‘ pot calling the kettle black’ scenario. The lie, and the life had been going on for many years.

STGCS Ret

Sandman dude you are correct I hate to even have a conversation in the VA when I am there everybody is so “special” makes a normal sailor feel inferior LOL – I don’t even want to hear the B.S. stories and don’t want to call them all liars.

STGC Active

Maybe it’s just me, but I only engage fellows at the Legion or VFW so mostly I hear interesting, but not overblown stories. But, also, I don’t get out much. Still on Sea Duty.

MSG Eric

It is “possible” to attend schools and perform duty while assigned to the IRR. There are still a percentage that actually do their 2 weeks a year of Annual Training assigned to the IRR. They also can attend training, if seats and money is available for them.

In my first unit we had a couple of IRR officers associated with us. They’d come in for their two weeks a year and to get a “good year” they would do correspondence courses and other training to maintain. They weren’t shitbags, they just didn’t have the time to be drilling reservists so they were in the IRR purposely.

There are also those called “IMA” which are similar (Individual Mobilization Augmentee), but they are primarily assigned to Active Component units and when they do training each year for that 2ish weeks, it is with an Active unit. They can get mobilized for whatever reason and will be working with that active unit when they do.

Sandman

From my research IRR can attend unit level training events, but not individual training like Airborne or RIP. The unit level training helps to go toward their federal time, they can attach themselves to a unit willing to accept them and train with that unit as a whole. IMA is the same way, its unit level training such as an OFOR. IRR & IMA do not attend individual training. The Army is not going to spend the amount of money needed to send an IRR guy to Airborne, or RIP.

MSG Eric

True, but it also depends on the school. If it is an NCOES or OES and they request it, they meet the ht/wt and APFT standards, they are doing everything else they are supposed to, they “can” be sent to those schools for NCO/Officer Education. But again, it depends on if HRC has money and quotas to send them. They aren’t priority compared to others, but it is possible.

Are IRR troops going to jump school? Nope. Though, an IMA “could” be sent to jump school if the unit they work with wants to send them (on their dime and their quota), but that is rare as well. Again, it is “possible” but very low % levels. Higher % level if they are mobilized and working with an active unit for a long tour.

IRR/IMA even have promotion boards, both officer and enlisted.

NormanS

I was three years IRR. Nothing remarkable happened. The USMC offered me an M.P. slot at my separated grade: E4. No boot camp required. Wish I had kept the letter as proof. Was ordered to augment a CA-ARNG M.P. unit in Sunnyvale for AT; later rescinded. Never offered any schools, or the like.

I eventually enlisted in the CA-ARNG, and stayed 21 1/2 years. Added to 1 1/2 years AD I have 23 years of mostly boring service; and the DD-2 to prove it.

MSG Eric

Hey, service means citizenship!

I’m just sorry you had to do it in California.

SSgt., USMC

“The USMC offered me an M.P. slot at my separated grade: E4. No boot camp required. Wish I had kept the letter as proof.”

Well, my BULLSHIT METER JUST RANG AND WON’T STOP. The fargin RED FLAG went up the flagpole all by itself.

NO mutherfucker EVER got offered a freebie into the U.S. Marine Corps without completing boot camp.

NormanS – YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. Bye the way, I dare you to post your DD-2 (what the fuck is that?) Most of the rest of us have a DD-214 or two or three or more.

I’m calling you out at as a fucking LIAR. Another POS posting garbage.

SSgt., USMC

Hey NormanS….if you maintain you are a for real summabitch that my Marine Corps just had to have without any effort on your part, I fuckin’ dare you to post your full name and Service Number so we can run an FOIA request for records on you.

Maybe your lyin’ ass letter to come aboard “fer nuthin'” will show up. I’m willing to bet NOT !!!

Rb325th

Biggest chest beating son of a bitch, who did everything there was to be done… well, except anything he claimed he did. Piece of shit, always there brow beating, throwing the knife hand…calling out real Paratroopers/Rangers.
Notice he deleted his Facebook once again. Absolute scum, lower than whale shit asshole.

Old Trooper

Hmmmmmm. 6 months training and then the rest on IRR? How come I wasn’t offered that gig when I joined up?

OldManchu

Seems the phonies I have personally encountered all have one thing in common:

They NEVER… shut the fuck up about hero type shit. And I want to think “nah, they aren’t phony, they’re just insecure.” And then I see their ass on TAH. Literally having stood next to them hearing their bullshit.

OldManchu

phony

Old Trooper

Well, they all can’t be as high speed, low drag as my total awesomeness as a 68M, but they can keep trying. I just quietly watch them trying to achieve my greatness.

Mick

Yep.

These Stolen Valor posers want to constantly run their mouths about doing hero shit, until it comes time to step up and do some actual hero shit.

OldManchu

That’s right. And you know, I’ve noticed a very sad side effect of this mouth running hero shit. And it’s why I am getting fed up.

I live in a patriotic town that hosts a major event every year for veterans. So the good civilian citizens have a high awareness and appreciate for the veteran’s of all stripes that live amongst them. So… when the civilians here these bullshit stories, many of which make the paper or the local goodwill donations from furniture stores, etc., they begin to inadvertently think all veterans have personal hero stories. The begin to lose sight of, and appreciation for, the simple sacrifice of few years (or more) service after taking an oath that has a very high price for some service members. The expectations rise so high based on the lies of phonies. And the phonies steal the show when we have real life grieving Gold Star Families 100 feet away. I’m sick of this shit!

OldManchu

sorry for the spelling… ugh.

MSG Eric

Its oaky, we udnerstand.

OldManchu

lmao! I needed that.

Tom Huxton

spiel-chucker malfunction

Hack Stone

The proud woman owned company that I work for sells spell check software personally developed and endorsed by the Vice President of the company. You may have seen how it works when he would post on this board at 02:30 every evening back in June – August 2013. The name of the software is Lucky Sperm Spellcheck. Mention my name and get a 10% discount.

Just An Old Dog

Hack,
You crack me the fuck up…

A Proud Infidel®™

#FreeElaineRicci

HMCS(FMF) ret

I’ll never get over Elaine Ricci… and Macho Grande!

Combat Historian

Eleven years ago, our contract flight full of replacements and augmentees winging our way to Kuwait/Iraq made a refuel stop at a CONUS airport before flying overseas.

Among the civilian greeters welcoming us at the gate was an older man wearing a “Vietnam Veteran” ball cap who immediately regaled us with tales of him being an SF operator who parachuted into Hanoi in 1967 to carry out blackbag missions.

Unfortunately for him, most all of the augmentees and replacements were older NCO/officer types who upon hearing his blatherings quickly but politely moved away from him.

I figure the old codger was a supply clerk or maintenance type in the Viet of the Nam, if he was ever there at all. Since I was on my way to Iraq, I didn’t feel like calling him out. At that moment, I just felt sorrow and pity for this old man who had to mouth his fairly tales because he felt so inadequate about his own self-worth…

OldManchu

And they always find a way to “trap” those who they vomit their bullshit on.

For example – volunteer to meet and greet troops on the way to Iraq. WTF???

MSG Eric

It could be worse. A Civil Affairs NCO was deployed to Afghanistan and claimed he’d been in Cambodia during the Viet Nam war era, early 70s and was interviewed by a S&S reporter who did a story on him about it. That didn’t go over well after Jonn and others pushed on the reporter questioning the claims.

Though, that is the reason I found TAH because it was second or third in the google feed when I put “SSG Cambodia” in the search engine back in 2011 when I found out about it. Small community and all, easy to hear. There was also a guy called “Captain DUI?” from that same unit who got a DUI right before he deployed which caused him to also miss movement. But, he had his lips firmly affixed to the commander’s ass or something because he still had a job after coming home.

Good times….

CWORet

Nice. I’m posting my “how I met TAH story” on todays Manning post. God, the stories of our mobilization and deployment in ’04 would scare the nutz off any boot Lt. Or WO. Or senior SNCO…

OldManchu

Hi CWORet. I have a good friend who deployed to Iraq 04-05. Ramadi. Just curious if by any chance yall were possibly near each other’s AO.

CWORet

Yes. Exactly where I was. On the Marine side, with 1MarDiv G6.

Cris

04 Ramadi, across the river from Blue Diamond, 3/11

Martinjmpr

Among the civilian greeters welcoming us at the gate was an older man wearing a “Vietnam Veteran” ball cap who immediately regaled us with tales of him being an SF operator who parachuted into Hanoi in 1967 to carry out blackbag missions.

I remember that mission. We parachuted in to capture a high ranking NVA general and then we used a Fulton STAR (Surface to Air Recovery) system to haul him back to South Vietnam.

The mission went off flawlessly, but then as we were on ex-fil, SSG Peterson stepped on a booby trap and was impaled on punji sticks.

I still miss “Peter-San.” 😉

ocean12

Nice reference to the Duke

HMC Ret

Depending on the individual and circumstances, I let pass some who are obviously posers. For instance, if the person is old, he (usually he) might actually not be in command of their facilities. I take no delight in hammering this type of person. I feel greatly for them and know that ‘… there, but for the Grace of God, go I’. Now, if it’s a young(er) guy who, IMO is simply a turd, I will question them, but initially do so out of earshot of others. Why out of earshot? B/C I could be wrong. I have been. Either way, in dealing with either type, I get no satisfaction in what I am doing. UNLESS the poser wants to verbally slug it out with me. Punch line? I usually give the old farts a pass. I live in a major military town and have seen younger AD/Veteran personnel reduce an old guy to tears. That’s not my cup of tea.

2/17 Air Cav

Several years ago, there was one here. He went over the top in his reaction to the SV postings. So, one day, Jonn mentioned –w/o IDing the commenter–that he could go away or be identified here for all. He chose to go away.

2/17 Air Cav

Correction. So, one day, Jonn mentioned –w/o IDing the commenter–that he told the guy that he could go away or be identified here for all.

Daisy Cutter

Doesn’t even have a NDSM. He brought his “A” game to this party.

Claw

His six months of service fell during a non NDSM eligible period.

What really makes one wonder is why no Army Service Ribbon (ASR) was awarded. Supposed to get one of those upon completion of a MOS producing school.

Could it be that he didn’t even complete the school? Even after he bragged that he swept through the 31V course with all 100’s on every test?

Makes ya think he’s probably even bullshitting about that.

Sandman

I addressed that in the BoS,,his records show he did not graduate from AIT. He left the service as a 31V00, if he had graduated it would have said 31V10,,so no ASM

David

Don’t think it mattered in ’83, don’t think they awarded the ASR then. Seems to me that started in the late ’80s but I may be wrong.

Sandman

First approved in Apr. 1981

First awarded Aug. 1981

David

I stand corrected – thanks!

Sandman

Anytime brother!

Claw

Ah, I see that now. Did you add some stuff later on in the morning? As I don’t remember seeing that on the BoS earlier when I looked at it first thing this morning.

Of course, I could always blame it on lack of caffeine input./smile

Thanks for the Heads-Up.

MSG Eric

It is amazing how much mornings can screw up rational thought.

OldManchu

Oh my God – that apology! Menting you have psychological problems. I know you will read this.

Translation of your apology:

I served but my PSG ruined my career.

I volunteered a lot, so it’s ok to be a phony.

I have spent my life “in” and around the military. (No – you spent six months “in” the military. Hell I spent my life around cops – doesn’t make me one.)

I’ve trained soooo many people with my (implied military) skills including boys. (That’s scary – the boys part.)

I’m a victim of someone else calling me a MSG. (Dude my own Mom introduced me years ago as a SFC medic veteran. I have no idea why – age? – but I quickly corrected her to E-4 11c and then fussed at her in private to not try to spec out my service unless she knows what she is talking about.)

I do good deeds by busting posers and I paid a price by mistakenly becoming one. Boohoo.

And finally you give Charlie Mike lingo in your GFY farewell. Basically implying that you live life daily in the phonetic alphabet due to your years and years of service.

So in summary – You “Blame and Reclaim” all at once. Blame others for your pussy phoniness and Reclaim your vast military experience through these little innuendos and hints.

Fuck off and give Brian Culp (now Chaz Culp) a call and bitch about how everyone else has fucked you because they just refuse to let you get away with your BULLSHIT!

MSG Eric

The old 2-1 doesn’t give me much confidence in someone’s attendance at schools and what awards they were given, especially from the 80s.

When they still used them, anyone could write in or type in whatever they wanted to. As long as you knew the correct nomenclature and how to type in stuff per the AR, you could add anything you want.

I know all too well being that the Army Reserves were still using the 2-1 even 10 years ago. Depending on the unit, just about anyone could grab a file and write stuff in and/or type it in. When I was doing my promotion board packet for E-5, I even typed in updates to my own 2-1 because the S-1 NCO wanted to show me how it worked (and what a pain in the ass they were). Thank god for the newer Enlisted Record Briefs.

If he was discharged from the regular army right after AIT, but graduated AIT, an example of why could be that he was supposed to go to a Special Operations unit, requiring Airborne, but didn’t meet the APFT requirements to even go to jump school. We saw that once in a while in SWCS with PSYOP. A student could pass the APFT, but didn’t pass at the 17-21 standard. Still a strange one, but I don’t know what it could mean being that happened in the 80s.

I’ve seen personnel get put in the IRR right after Basic/AIT from the Reserves, but that’s mostly because they never show back up to their unit after they complete IET training. But, they’re assigned to their unit at MEPS and even get inprocessed at their unit prior to shipping, if not do drill weekends. So if they don’t show up after for 3 months, the process for transfer to the IRR begins.

You could’ve just told us you were keeping your enemies closer though Jonn. 😉

Commissar

When I first got off active duty I was in the Texas National Guard for a short time.

I was amazed at how many guys were wearing a special forces tab in my unit. More than half the chain of command.

And all but one were legs.

I didn’t understand. I was highly suspicious. But it was before the internet and the army has a lot of unusual shit happen so I was not sure enough to be calling out platoon sergeants, first sergeants and officers for being posers.

Later I learned they had all done one of those MOS correspondence courses by mail and, because the NGB in Texas is was a bunch of good old boys at the time, they were able to get the MOS and tab awarded in their records.

It was all bullshit. The 18 series correspondence courses awarded promotion points but they did not award the MOS and Tab.

The ONLY way to get the MOS and TAB was to attend Airborne school and the MOS culmination exercise Robin Sage. Which none of them did.

While it was technically possible to do the correspondence course and then get orders to attend airborne and Robin Sage to get the tab none of these guys did that and the Special Forces Branch closed that little loophole. Which was really designed to qualify guys who were in National Guard and Reserve SF units. They still had to do Airborne, and Robin Sage.

OldManchu

Commissar what area of Texas was your NG unit?

Yeah I give you shit and will continue to do so. But I live in Tx so I am simply curious.

Tcv21

This ass clown did 3 different apologies in the span of a couple days and was called out on each one of them. Each time he would remove a little of the BS but keep some of it.

bg2

Another look at him, here:

https://barbaraggrantblog.wordpress.com/

Animal

Another example of stolen valor being the rancid cherry on the shit sundae.

Guard Bum

That is a true WTF right there. She sounds as dopey as he does.

bg2

I’m not dumb. I do not emerge from your community. I simply did not appreciate how substantially different this issue is from other types of lying.

Graybeard

Forgive my brashness, bg2, but if you are the author of the account at that blog, and if that account is accurate, you did do something dumb that you knew not to do.

You opened your knees to a strange man.

Being hurt and lonely explains some of the pressures, but you knew better.
God’s rules are there to keep us from doing things that hurt us. That we are hurting in one manner does not make the damage from violating His rules any less.

I am sorry you were hurt by this jerk. But it was dumb to put yourself where you would be hurt.

I hope God’s healing hand will help you recover.

CWORet

Ma’am, we’re pretty coarse here. I even posted something a bit snarky at you earlier. I did read your blog entry at your site. I’m sorry this jerk took advantage of you and then left you hanging. Please, if anyone comes at you with tales of grandeur and combat amazing skills (search combat shovel specialist Giduck for starts). Use the google. I recommend you peruse this site. There are so many that have been taken advantage of for so much it’s sickening. It’s only my perverse likeness for thrashing douche-bags that keeps me coming back. If you read some of the (thousands) of stories here, you’ll see you got off fairly cheap. These MFr’s will drain you. Your spirit, your money, anything they can get. Hope you don’t come off thinking that the majority of ‘us’ are like that in our community. Trust; But Verify is our motto. Take Care. You’re not alone… /’Ret out…

bg2

Thank you for that comment, CWORet. It is very illuminating. No, I don’t believe that most in your community are this way. And I plan to research this further. Posing is a lifestyle, rather than a lie. Thanks again.

26Limabeans

WTF did I just read?

SFC D

Sounds like the first draft of a novel. You know, the ones with Fabio on the cover.

The Stranger

Maybe it’s the long awaited sequel to “Ranger” Burrell’s scintillating page Turner “Weekend at Rita’s”!

Combat Historian

I just read your blogpost about Mark. As you have now learned, phonies/posers/liars usually have no conscience; they indeed practice situational ethics/honesty/morality/(fill in the blank) to fit whatever their need is at the moment. They are bad people…

I feel very bad about what happened to you; I pray that the good Lord will help you through this…

bg2

Thank you, Combat Historian. Similarity is to an actor…playing a character, but not on the stage. Some people are very good at this.

CWORet

That got me too. Nice lady it seems. Luckily only taken for a “short ride”. Live and learn. Google is your friend, people.
IDN, maybe IDC SARC can help her out in the short term…

The Stranger

Oh boy….

CWORet

M’Kay, just a TAH insider joke.
“Barbara, I’m going through all your private stuff! You better come out and pound me!”

/HomeAloneQuote

The Stranger

Yeah, well I was thinking more along the lines of frying pans and fires…

SFC D

shit just got real…

Pat the OOR

I’m still waiting until a fake recruiter is unmasked. “There I was at the mall, surrounded by enemy HS kids and college dropouts with one week until the end of the month and still rolling a doughnut…”

Gotta be at least one!?!

Cris

“There I was with 5 trays of biscuits and only enough gravy for one, the doors to the chow hall were 2 minutes from opening…” how phony cooks start their stories.

The Old Maj

There was one out in Texas about a dozen years ago creeping on high school kids. I don’t think he made the media. He worried the crap out of me though. I was a recruiting company commander at the time and got a call from an angry principal. He was trying to give a 15 year old girl a ride to the “station” to talk about “opportunities”.

Once we worked out that he was not one of my guys I told him to call the police if he ever came back. He showed up about a week later and they trespassed him. Never really found out who it was.

JarHead Pat

Hahahahah, I was friends with this sack 0 shit on FB, what a clown.

Hack Stone

Okay, time for Hack to come clean and confess to misleading the members of TAH as to (slipped that one by you) my claim of being a recipient to the much coveted and rarely awarded Precious Metals Recovery Expert Badge. I was not awarded the badge, but in my defense I was honorarily awarded the badge by the National Association of Naval Photography.

Eden

SNERK!

Sandman

Doesn’t count unless you were IRR at the time.

MSG Eric

It doesn’t matter as long as you “identify” as a Precious Metals Recovery Expert.

Perry Gaskill

I forget. Does the metals recovery expert badge go above, or below the one for flaming squirrels signal expert?

Just An Old Dog

I remember him commenting on a certain facebook SV page.
Not the actual comment but it just struck me as a weird fucking name.
Kage Gaigan.
Some of the worst posers are the ones who weasel into outing phonies.
Cheeslayer and that Monkey Cunt Shippert were two prime examples.

2/17 Air Cav

Kage Gaigan. Sounds like one of those genuine phony wrestlers.

The Stranger

No, the similarity of this individual’s name to the Spanish word “cagada” CANNOT be a coincidence!💩💩💩

HMCS(FMF) ret

Maybe that’s his ghey porn name… he’s the “fluffer” on the set.

Just An Old Dog
MSG Eric

I. I. I just don’t even know what to say. His comments at the bottom are just as disturbing as anything else on that page. Yeah, I got nothin’

Animal

What in the Wide World of Sports is going on there??? I’m with you MSG. That is…I got nothin’ either.

The Stranger

I ain’t gonna go there so I need to know, is this a lemonparty type site?

MSG Eric

I don’t know what that is either, so I can’t tell you either way. I don’t know if you should or shouldn’t see that page for yourself, I’m still confused.

The Stranger

Lemonparty.org apparently was some kind of gay porn site…it was used to refer to some “friends” of TAH back in the day. I never went to it, but conned someone else in my unit to visit it. The look on that guy’s face when he caught up to me later was priceless.

CWORet

BF MFr! I followed that. Once…

The Stranger

CA-CAW!

Ex-PH2

It’s a bunch of psychos in one collective group. Geez!!!

The Stranger

Wait, the DRG has a new website?

Dave Hardin

^^^THIS^^^ Coming from a woman that wants me to ride her Hobbyhorse?

Ex-PH2

Hobby is just the horse’s name. Love you, too, Salamander.

mr. sharkman

That shirt. That f’in shirt.

http://valorguardians.com/blog/?attachment_id=72122

Does any American Veteran who has Seen the Elephant actually wear shirts like these?

I liked when CP did the MLI shirt, especially the story behind the creation of the design and shirt.

I’ve got a few, ‘free’ (after spending thousands of $ on their excellent – or at least better than anything at the time – product) and even though they are torn to hell I’ll wear them from time to time when in need of a (relatively) clean tshirt.

But the shirt he’s wearing in the photo – I’d be embarrassed by it.

Now if some Grandpa rocking a WW2 CIB was wearing one…well good on him.

Hope the distinction makes some sense.

IDC SARC

“But the shirt he’s wearing in the photo – I’d be embarrassed by it.”

nope, nope…never. I wouldn’t even have it in my house, because if I died I wouldn’t want my kids to find it in my belongings.

bg2

Another note. Just a few short days before this post appeared, another of my FB friends, Patrick Flores, was outed by this site and Military Phonies. I posted the info. on my FB page. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000585310949 One friend, not a friend of Patrick, admitted that (the friend) could not see what motivated Patrick. I think, because, it seemed so bizarre that people _not_ within the military community and very far from the Stolen Valor community have difficulty getting this. Talk about “dumb” all you wish, but at some level, perhaps a connection must be made between a community such as this one and the general public, who are not used to seeing Stolen Valor stories and don’t quite get how much they matter. (Armor suit on to deflect any arrows you may wish to shoot.)

Just An Old Dog

BG,
Welcome to our world. The reason people don’t care about stolen valor is because generally it has no affect on them and they don’t know the difference.
Once it had an affect on you and you looked it up I’m sure you were flabbergasted at the scope of stolen valor and how many sites expose it.
All the information anyone needs is out there.
People here absolutely LOVE educating people on Stolen Valor and getting the word out.
BUT, people have to be interested first, and plenty of people who have heard about it actually think that all the Stolen Valor Exposure community is is a bunch of cranky old veterans who get pissed off because of kids or grown ups telling stories. By the way I’m going to put the Clown Kage Gagian on blast elsewhere as well.

bg2

Yes, “Just An Old Dog” I did look it up when it affected me…but not beforehand. You’re right about that. Will be thinking more about how to publicize this issue. Thanks for the comment, BG

Just An Old Dog

https://www.facebook.com/Stop-Fake-Military-Romance-Scammers-272987476199270/

BG, did a write up on him,,,linked your blog entry, hopefully will get you some more hits.

bg2

Interesting site, that. Thank you.

Green Thumb

Turd.

bg2

As I’m going through these comments again, I can feel the anger, and it’s justified. Very interesting to me, since I came to the problem from a different angle and yet my treatment by this individual was ultimately similar to yours…PLAYED! Nobody likes being played.

I must add something about the “name.” There are two parts to it. I heard him pronounce it; it is _not_ “KAYGE GAYGAN” but “KAH-gee GY-gan.” On the internet, you can see him refer to himself as “Kagemusha Gaigan,” which is why I titled my linked blog post, above, as I had. So the Kagemusha character from the Japanese film was obvious. If you look up the film, you can see that it is about a petty thief who becomes the body double and later, the impersonator of a powerful Japanese warlord in feudal Japan.

If you look at the Wikipedia article on the subject, you’ll also see that director Kurosawa worked with another prominent filmmaker, T. Tanaka, the producer of the Japanese monster movies including Godzilla. I Googled Mr. Tanaka and found this link: http://www.tohokingdom.com/movies/godzilla_vs_gigan.htm See it for yourself.

So, ultimately, the man who stole valor, hounded legitimate vets, administered several websites, and hugely lied to me, had created his name, and his persona based on 1) An ancient Japanese fraud and 2) A Japanese movie monster.

51 years of age, or 15?