Colonel William Jones; perv
A number of readers have sent us links to this story in the Air Force Times in regards to Colonel William Jones, the former vice commander of the 20th Fighter Wing at Shaw Air Force Base, South Carolina.. Apparently, he’s been arrested on charges that he possessed nasty pictures of children and that he unsuccessfully obstructed justice;
“The charges are being worked through the legal process outlined in the UCMJ, and Col. Jones is presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law,” Col. Stephen Jost, commander of the 20th, said in the release.
Jost relieved Jones of command Feb. 17. At the time, the wing said it was due to a loss of confidence, but did not offer any further explanation as to why Jones was relieved.
I’m sure that Colonel Jones won’t be the only one punished – every Airman will be subjected to hours of training slides explaining why they shouldn’t have dirty pictures of children. Field grade and Flag officers will be exempt from the lectures.
Bobo and I discussed the picture yesterday and it seems that Jones missed participation in the GWOT. Maybe if he’d had a deployment or two, he would have been too busy to be a criminal.
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Probably just doing “research”
3 words:
1. Eww.
2. Ewww
3. Ewwwwwwwwwww.
Maybe he misunderstood the role of a “vice” commander.
I’ve seen USAF E-5s with more ribbons than the colonel. I’m still trying to figure out how someone can be a master pilot on active duty long enough to make O-6 and not get a tour to at least Qatar or Kuwait in a staff position.
Flying unicorn qualified?
More like a Master Qualified Blue Falcon.
Depends on who you know.
In many cases the people who deploy are less likely to get promoted because they are doing the “lessor” important work of the AF. They are not around planning the squadron Christmas party or making sure the incoming commander is pampered.
Looks like from an old BIO of his when he was an O-5. He spent a good deal of his career in AETC being a AT-38 IFF (IP) and F-16 School House IP. Thats most likely how he avoided a stint over there. He was too busy writing awards packages and putting together unit functions to go overseas. Although it is surprising that they did not have him go over at least once to command an EOSS over there. Usually, they have future groomed leadership command something in the AOR at least once to have that bullet on their OPR.
COL Bill Jones, the CSM “No Slack” of the Air Force.
But he does have five MSM’s, though. Don’t they count for something?
Not anymore.
This perv could have 69,105 positive deeds to his credit…but an oh-shit this big wipes them all out, forever.
Yeah they mean he did a good job writing awards packages and planning the unit christmas party.
Creep.
Have fun in Leavenworth, “sir.” Use powdered soap. It takes longer to pick up.
Well, here’s his bio thru Oct 2010, when he was a Squadron Commander at Luke AFB:
http://www.toledoblade.com/frontpage/2010/10/23/LIEUTENANT-COLONEL-WILLIAM-R-JONES.html
Looks to me that he spent most of the early GWOT as either an instructor pilot in the training pipeline or at Aviano AB.
Not sure what he did (beside apparently surf child pr0n websites) between Oct 2010 and today.
This guy didn’t command a USAF flying squadron; he commanded the 56th Operations Support Squadron, Luke Air Force Base, Arizona. After looking at his bio, it doesn’t appear that he was much of a player in the USAF F-16 fighter community, which may explain why he was given command of a support squadron. And it may also explain why he never flew in the GWOT. He may have intentionally been kept out of the fight. It happens.
He also only had about 1500 flight hours as a LtCol in 2010. That number is suspiciously low, especially for a career Air Force pilot. Most Marine Captains and Navy Lieutenants have that many flight hours logged by the time that they make O-4, and they usually don’t get as much flight time as their USAF peers do.
There’s a whole lot wrong with this entire story, in addition to the criminal photos.
You do know that a OSS controls just about everything that has to do with flying right?
Yes, I understand what an OSS does.
Are you trying to imply that an OSS is a flying squadron in the same category as a “line” fighter squadron? That an OSS is the same as a USAF fighter squadron that flies aircraft in actual combat? Well, it’s not.
Look, this this guy is a career Air Force F-16 pilot who didn’t make the cut to be given command of a “line” flying/fighter squadron, and he never flew in combat in the GWOT, yet somehow he still made it to O-6. And now he’s been busted for having nasty, criminal pictures of little kids.
That speaks volumes, and it stinks.
Uhh, too much “stick time”???? Douche-sack.
You would think he would rush to AFG, he and the War Lords have sooooo much in common.
Just do not look for the Col. on Thursday. It is his busy day.
They should make him take an old B-29 and Lawn Dart himself.
Negative! B-29’s deserve better!
I know, I will let Chip Nasa pick the POS Plane for the POS lawn Dart.
XB-70?
French Mirage?
Only one flying B29 (Fifi). Very bad idea.
Maybe the SB2C Helldiver…think that plane killed more of our guys than Japanese.
I say resurrect an old AV-8A Harrier for this guy.
Make him try to hold it in a hover.
It’d all be over fairly quickly.
As of this past Sunday, there are 2 flying B-29’s…just thought you’d like to know
http://www.aviationpros.com/news/12233729/b-29-doc-takes-to-wichita-skies-after-six-decades-of-being-grounded
Here’s the article on the second B-29, Doc.
David, another one (B-29) just flew in Kansas. Called “Doc”.There’s a link out there, I can’t recall whose.
In some circles FIFI was lovingly referred to as F1-F1. (That might be one of those “you had to be there” kind of things.) Don’t remember why exactly except that the lettering could be read either way.
An O6 kiddie perv? Here’s hoping they throw the book at him!
Too Pretty For Prison.
Yeah. He’ll be Prom Queen.
He’ll love the cockmeat sammiches and tubesteak served at the “all he can eat” prison buffet – owned and operated by Thor, Bubba, Julio and Mr. “Tiny”!
Good fucking luck in prison, William Jones
Yeah, if this guy gets anything less than prison and dismissal the system has really turned to shit.
Child porn is a lifelong albatross for civilians and enlisted people….just because this low life piece of shit molester wannabe is an officer doesn’t excuse the nature of his shitbag character.
You can never trust this rat fuck around children for as long as he walks the planet regardless of the “officer and a gentleman” horseshit that accompanies his rank.
Ditto that VOV, he needs to be forced to register as a Sex Offender as well! My Dad’s a retired Judge and I remember him telling me that kiddie pervs have THE highest rate of recidivism than any other genre of criminal (HE was also frustrated many times that Sentencing Guidelines wouldn’t let him put them away longer in a number of the cases he heard), it’s a pity they can’t get the Death Penalty!
I’m pretty sure that he’ll have to register as a sex offender if convicted of child pr0n possession.
What a disgrace. I hope he enjoys his daily ass-raping from the entire ghetto penthouse.
Probably not if he ends up getting convicted at court-martial. As I understand it, all officer personnel sentenced to confinement serve their sentences at the USDB. They reputedly do a very good job there at preventing inmante-on-inmate abuse.
However, if he ends up tried in Federal court or SC state court (both are also possibilities), might be a different story.
UCMJ, he’s looking at full forfeitures, reduction, a dismissal (DD equivalent), and up to 10 years (MCM 2012). Under Federal criminal law, he’s looking at between 5 and 20 (18 USC 2252). Not sure about SC law.
Thank you for that information. Would his reduction be to an O-1?
Either way, I hope he serves his time in misery.
That’s a damn good question. Have to admit that I’m not certain – since he’s commissioned, even a GCM can’t reduce him in grade. The retention options regarding future service for an officer who’s court-martialed are “retain in current grade” or “dismiss from service”; the latter is the equivalent of a DD for officer personnel. But I’ve never seen a DD214 for an officer who’s been dismissed, so I don’t know what grade appears on one.
I’m presuming an officer who gets dismissed is also concurrently reduced to E1, but that may not technically be the case. If we have any current/former mil JAGs or admin WOs out there who can shed light here, I for one would love to know the definitive answer.
I would be interested to know as well!
My guess would be E-1 if it goes the full route. Whatever it is, it ain’t gonna be pretty. I also would like to know the answer on this one.
Typically with officers there is no formal rank reduction. Usually it is just a dismissal, which in essence is a revocation of all status. They in essence have no rank when this happens.
Am hoping that he will be tried by whichever system will give him the greater punishment for his crimes. Yeah, yeah, we are all innocent until proven guilty, but having kiddie porn on your computer is difficult to explain away.
The only way to get anything on your computer by accident that I can think of is download something that you think is innocent and it turns out to be kiddie porn. I believe that they would be able to tell if you deleted it instantly upon finding out what it is like any normal person would do. I highly doubt that they just randomly decided to dig in this guys hard drive and just happened to find one picture that was hastily deleted though.
Hillary managed to accidentally move files from SIPR to NIPR so I guess this asshat could accidentally download kiddy porn
The manual of Court’s Martial states commissioned officers can only be reduced to another commissioned rank. He could be reduced to O01, forfeit all pay and allowances, and be dishonorably discharged as a 2nd lieutenant. The Court’s Martial could also try him for “conduct unbecoming” reduce him, discharge him, forfeit his pay and allowances, not send him to USDB, and turn him over to state or federal jurisdiction for trial of the more serious crimes.
Don’t think so. From MCM-2012, page II-128, Rule 1003. Punishments (emphasis added): (c) Limits on Punishments para 1 omitted (2) Based on Rank of Accused. (A) Commissioned or warrant officers, cadets, and midshipmen. (i) A commissioned or warrant officer or a cadet, or midshipman may not be reduced in grade by any court-martial. However, in time of war or national emergency the Secretary concerned, or such Under Secretary or Assistant Secretary as may be designated by the Secretary concerned, may commute a sentence of dismissal to reduction to any enlisted grade. For officers, it’s “all or nothing” – they’re either retained in grade after being convicted by a GCM or they’re booted with the equivalent of a DD. The wartime/state of emergency conversion to enlisted status referenced above is in lieu of the dismissal, and is the result of a reduction in the severity of the sentence imposed (e.g., commutation) in lieu of receiving the part of the sentence imposing the equivalent of a DD. It also is not automatic and requires the action of someone well above the CMCA in the “food chain”. The “flip side” to that inability of a GCM to “bust” an officer is that an officer can be dismissed for literally any GCM conviction, regardless of the offense or the maximum punishments authorized by the MCM for the offense, if the military judge hearing the case makes that part of the sentence and the GCMCA approves the sentence. (Rule 1003, para (a)(8)(A), beginning on p. II-127). The same is true regarding DDs for warrant officers who do not have a commission – they can receive a DD for any GCM conviction. (Can’t speak for other services, but many if not most Army WOs today are now commissioned; technically, they’d receive a dismissal vice a DD.) In contrast, for enlisted troops a GCM is bound by the MCM’s maximum punishments. There are a fair number of offenses under the UCMJ that do not allow either a BCD or DD as part of their maximum sentence (e.g., simple assault under Article 128, drunk and disorderly on shore… Read more »
Damn.
Rule interpretation used to be easy.
Guess I am getting on up in my years.
So….
On -one- charge, CGM and convict him, and then commute sentence and reduce to E-1.
-Then- GCM and convict him on all the other charges, DD, incarcerate, etc.
Then, when he gets out of USDB, hand him over to civvy authorities for charges not found in the UCMJ.
Lather, rise, repeat.
I’ll say it again: Those who sexually abuse children and those who sexually abuse women are the lowest form of life on Earth. They are the moral equivalent of pond scum. No punishment is too harsh for them. If convicted I hope he’s in the general population. He will be very popular. Even other felons despise those who abuse children and women.
Word.
They need to be stepped on and squashed….permanently.
Fucking ticklemonster.
This maggot needs a hearty handshake and warm cup of soup followed by three of for frozen popsicles.
Surprised he didn’t volunteer for Afghanistan. He would fit right in with our Afghan allies…
He did finally deploy as the deployed wing commander with 20FW assets to Jordan for some of the ISIS stuff. Having spoken with some of my guys who were over there, they said he liked the bottle a bit and was rumored to have a thing for younger female airmen. I still don’t understand how he was a fighter pilot, and missed Northern Watch, Southern Watch, Serbia/Kosovo, OEF, and OIF, and managed to become a bird colonel and vice commander of a combat wing. Hell, I fought cancer, and was restricted as to where I could go, and still have more campaign medals than this clown…
Indications are he was certainly consistent about the “thing for younger” part after he got back. But let’s wait to see what a court-martial has to say.
You’d think the AF would have dropped the hammer on him for fraternization. All services have frowned greatly upon it since even before my time.
Air Force, especially so.
Really? My experience is not, but maybe my experience isn’t reflective. As an Army guy, I drove AF leadership folks nuts by asking why they had first names on their name tags if the lowly Airman couldn’t call them by that first name?
Oh, yeah, I lived it. I never saw first names on name tags either. I watch how the Army officers I know interact with their Soldiers, and I’m amazed. That would have been severely frowned on when I was in the AF, could even have made an officer “non-promotable” in the eyes of his/her superiors.
The difference between a service whose officers fight with their enlisted and a service who sends their officers off to fight without enlisted.
Yep!
Wow, SJ! You knew some very interesting AF officers. Never saw first names on name tags.
Must back up what Eden said. My USAF experience was that while fraternization did occur, if it was not very discrete, the officer’s career was likely stalled or over. Then again, I’ve been retired over 10, so things may have changed.
I retired a loooong time before you :-). My experience with AF was at the Pentagon and Nellis. I should have clarified that this was on flight suit name tags, not the “Class A” type tags. No, I never saw them on the latter.
Hmmm. . . I never even saw them on flight suits (and I worked with air crews). Maybe a SAC vs. TAC vs. MAC thing.
Googlefooed USAF flight suits and found a bunch. But as you say, it may be a TAC/MAC/SAC/particular base thing. Just a couple of examples. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiW9IHFmILOAhUDMyYKHcwPCikQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kunsan.af.mil%2FAboutUs%2FBiographies%2Ftabid%2F1942%2FArticle%2F412773%2Fcolonel-barre-r-seguin.aspx&psig=AFQjCNFB2mAnrYnC6QSv0Acc1vOvkd6lQQ&ust=1469109145315276
Including a former CSAF http://www.christianfighterpilot.com/images/welshstar.jpg
IME, many fighter pilots think they’re God’s gift to women and God’s gift to the Air Force, and they don’t believe “no” means “no”.
That’s why we grunts like to slap them around.
All tough and shit until you go the parking lot.
But then again I cannot complain about the overhead cover they can bring to the fight.
In a F35? (Smile). A10? Hell yes. But Hog drivers are looked down on by the rest of the AF fighter pilot community.
IMHO ANY Pilot that looks down on a Hog Driver needs to have their face punched in.
From what I’ve seen, API, the USAF institutionally looks down on everyone in who isn’t in the USAF’s “ruling elite”. Before and during the LeMay era, from my perspective that “ruling elite” was bomber drivers, closely followed by fighter jocks. Since then, the fighter jocks have gotten the upper hand – bigtime.
And yeah, from my perspective many of that USAF “ruling elite” tend to look down their noses at everyone else inside or outside the USAF.
“Higher faster farther” is a great slogan. But it doesn’t really win wars. Effective air operations that support the overall military effort is what does.
The A-10 was always my favorite plane. I always said that if I could manage to get a pilot slot, that’s what I would want to fly. Sadly, they never would have let me during the time I was in. I would have been stuck driving tankers or something. Oh, well, I spent my career flying an LGD-6.
Word.
The A-10 can bring the scunion.
While sitting at Camp Buerhing in 2005 waiting to go into Iraq a kid was caught watching kiddie porn in the tent. He was snatched up instantly and whisked away because the entire Company wanted to rip his balls off. Never heard a word of him again.
Right before my second tour we had a kid knock up a 15 year old. For some reason he didn’t get arrested right away and still deployed with us and was a TOC bitch the entire year (they didn’t let him go on R&R). When we redeployed and were walking down the stairs from the plane the Alaska State Troopers were waiting for him. They shackled him right there on the tarmac and took him away.
Ahh, a happy ending. Prison Inmates have a knack for knowing just who is coming in and for what, it’s likely his/its life is pure hell if a lifer hasn’t gotten to it and made a kill.
The link to the Air Force times, just below his picture at the top of this page shows the following:
Jones was temporarily reassigned to the Ninth Air Force headquarters, the wing said at the time. Monday’s release said he is serving as deputy chief of safety.
A sick child porn pervert “In charge of SAFETY”?????
Now that’s fckn’ brilliant! Just the very kind of person to make us feel safe!
What is really sad about the state of our country is that as heinous as the accusations are, I can’t help but have a tiny seed of doubt…could this guy know too much about the ape in chief or Hildebeast that he has to be discredited?
Probably not…he’s probably a fucking kiddie fiddler like Jared, but just the fact that the idea came to mind speaks volumes about the country’s current “leadership”