Gregory Owens sentenced

| July 12, 2016

Gregory Owens

You might remember that we talked about Gregory Owens back in February. He pretended to be Special Forces and a sniper. He was a retired Army Sergeant Major who tried to murder his wife so he could continue to cuddle with his girlfriend unimpeded. He was convicted back in February and he was sentenced by a judge to life in prison today.

An Army veteran convicted of trying to kill his wife and another person in Maine will spend the rest of his life in prison.

A federal judge imposed the life sentence Tuesday on 59-year-old Gregory Owens of Londonderry, New Hampshire. Authorities say Owens drove to Saco, Maine, broke into a home where his wife was staying, and then shot her and one of the home’s occupants on Dec. 18, 2014.

He had been fond of telling the ladies about his secret squirrel military career and how the Pentagon continued to send him on secret missions (that’s how he excused his absences to his mistress and his wife).

Both of his victims survived his attempt on their lives, thankfully.

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Category: Phony soldiers, Valor Vultures

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IDC SARC

D-Bag ….and a failure. Couldn’t kill a woman?!? WTF

A Proud Infidel®™

NOW he gets to spend THE REST OF HIS LIFE in the tender embraces of Bubba, Thor, Julio and “Tiny”. Good riddance.

2/17 Air Cav

Clong! Lookie here, Clong! A highly trained, highly skilled soldier–a former Drill Sgt no less–who couldn’t kill two people at close quarters using a gun, even though the victims were unarmed. (Side note. I understand that the WSJ’s Loser Alejandro will profile this shooter, whose mommy claims he just wasn’t the same guy some 40 years after he entered the Army and retired from it.)

Green Thumb

That is what “Ranger” Stephen Cio Burrell said.

To include the defensive capabilities of his MOH and lethal martial art training.

OldManchu

Looking at his service locations and years, where did he get his CIB? I thought maybe Grenada, Panama, or Desert Storm but the dates don’t line up. Maybe in the DMZ in Korea? As some serving there damn well should have.

Anyway, he fucked it all up now!

GDContractor

Thanks God he didn’t shoot and move or this could have been a far different outcome.

IDC SARC

Woulda tripped and shot himself

Claw

Looks like it’s time to give up that Retired E-9 pay and the Tomb Badge and say Hello to “The Sisters” at Shawshank.

Adios, MF’er.

Eden

I suspect the Tomb Badge has already been revoked. I know it was being looked into.

Pld

He didn’t have a “Tomb Badge”.

20thEB67

I love happy endings. Makes feel all warm and fuzzy.

Akpual

Why the hell does the story start with “An Army veteran”? I’m an Army veteran married to the same girl for 45 years and haven’t tried to kill her.

HMC Ret

Maybe he can muster the prisoners and march them to chow. Maybe some close order drill. Or maybe he’ll just be someone’s bitch.

Hack Stone

He can get them all on line to pick up cigarette butts. Immediately followed by a presentation from his dear friend, a recently retired SgtMaj who will tell the prisoners why they should invest in the NCOA Lifer’s Insurance Program. They can set up auto pay allotments of five cigarettes a month, and when they get out, they will have cartons of smokes to enjoy with their new found Liberty.

Ex-PH2

He has a good career, he retires from and then decides to blow it all to Hell and back?

He is no loss to society.

A Proud Infidel®™

And thanks to a change in Federal Law his conviction forfeits his right to burial in any Military or Veterans Cemetery. He can just rot in a cheap coffin in some prison cemetery where they usually get no more than a concrete marker with their inmate number on it.

Devtun

Keeps collecting his E-9 pension, though Gregory will be lower than a buck private in the pen.

Jay

What’s the conversion rate from retired E9 pay to smokes and baby ruths?

jarhead

The conversion rate is as follows:

The ONLY thing he will be puffing on as of this day will be long and hard, in addition to being attached to someone else’s body.

Former Baby Ruth bars will immediately replaced by something that looks pretty much the same in appearance, but surprise…tastes like just what it is. Only the replacement came from a chocolate factory!

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Looks like Bubba, Thor, Julio and Mr. “Tiny” will be having some “fresh fish” at the poundhimintheass prison soon!

Hope he likes cockmeat sammiches and tubesteak with manmayo and nutbutter… he’ll be seeing a lot of that for the rest of his days here on Earth!

Green Thumb

Maybe Greg Banks can counsel him as part of his treatment plan.

Behind closed doors, of course.

Gregory “Buttfuck” Owens.

Has a nice ring to it.

He should have rethought trying to kill those women.

Because my best guess is that there will not be any women where his sorry ass is headed…..

I wonder if he will play the role of the “Over the Top in Your Face” SGM or the “Behind the Scenes in Your Ass” SGM?

C. Long

Another vet who used violence in an attempt to solve his problems. Luckily they survived.

A Proud infidel®™

Carlton Long, I presume? You and your opinions are as welcome here as “Hanoi Jane” Fonda would be at a Vietnam Vets’ reunion.

2/17 Air Cav

API. I may be wrong but my recollection is that Carlton Long and C. Long (a/k/a Clong) are not the same person. There was a thread many months ago in which Carlton–for obvious reasons–made this distinction.

2/17 Air Cav

I remember now, API. It was Carlton G. Long and he’s not the same person as Clong.

GDContractor

This one is Christopher Long. And he never has made sense.

I pay attention.

A Proud Infidel®™

If that’s the case, then Christopher ? Long must be on fire because he really needs to stop, drop, and roll the hell outta here.

19Delta

Yes, because no one besides a veteran ever attempted or succeeded at killing their spouse to be able to hook up with their side piece. You must’ve done some exhaustive research on the subject.

JACK SHIT

You don’t know me, Christopher Long.

2/17 Air Cav

Fuckcake.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

Splash. Out.

-break-

And to Mr. clong – “another”… As in “another” McDonald’s fry cook, or “another” Walmart employee, or “another” construction worker, or “another” lab tech…

Fuck you clong. You make it sound as if only veterans are capable of violent acts.

C. Long

Not at all. But as a group vets have a high propensity towards committing violent crimes. It doesn’t take anything away from the good ones to acknowledge that, ask why and attempt to find a solution.

Sticking your head in the sand and refusing to note the problem, perhaps because you feel it would take something away from your own service, is just plain irresponsible as a citizen. I don’t mean that towards you specifically but rather all of us in general.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Would you mind posting a link to the info you just stated?

IDC SARC

He would and he will avoid linear goal oriented thought on every occasion that you choose to reason with him. He’s just a troll.

2/17 Air Cav

He can’t back up his outlandish and damaging accusations. He never does because he can’t. I’m still wondering whether he’s a Veteran at all and, if so, whether he was honorably discharged.

NR Pax

It’s adorable how people like you preach about collective guilt. The majority of those who serve don’t go on to commit crimes and we’re not obligated to hold a powwow about the ones who do.

C. Long

I would disagree. We have an obligation to think about and solve problems that affect us all as a country. Vets and everyone else.

We all hold some responsibility as Americans every time there is a mass shooting. We are all guilty because we have this problem that can be solved but we just simply won’t solve it because to do so would require us meeting others in a middle too far away from some of our own comfort zones.

A Proud infidel®™

OH, so you’re of the mentality that perpetrators and criminals are simply “Victims of Society lashing out at their oppression” or some shit like that, eh? That’s what I see in your candyassed twinkle-toed unicorn fart-huffing pisspants booger-eating thumbsucking bedwetting lollipop-up-the-ass BULLSHIT you post! We are a nation of laws which are NO shit-eating mudda-fuckin’ good if they’re either not enforced or selectively enforced, i.e. when someone politically connected enough skates on doing shit that would put anyone else in the Greybar Hilton for life. I picture you as a clone of the “0bamacare Pajama Boy” whenever I bother to read your mouthbreathing sniveling hippie turd drivel, anyone who blames Society for the actions of some lowlife scum is just as shit-headed as the criminals. I’m sure you’ll show off this post to your Mommy in hopes that she’ll give you a nice warm enema before bedtime for being a good little boy and you’ll be back to trolling later like the booger-eating shithead that you are. A thimble would fit on your head like a lampshade.

IDC SARC

actually he’s left a lot of evidence around here that he’s the type that talks in circles ad perpetuum just to be a PITA to as many people as possible

A Proud Infidel®™

As well as a snotnosed holier-than-thou pinkie-in-the-air prissyassed wannabe intellectual like the sniveling pencildicks one sees oozing from kolledje campuses these days

GDContractor

Just brainstorming, right Einstein?

Green Thumb

Cool.

New one.

Green Thumb

Then C. my balls.

NR Pax

You can disagree, but you’d be wrong. Then again, that’s status quo for you.

Collective guilt is as much an idiotic idea as collective salvation. The only obligation I have in this situation is to not follow in his example. But if it makes you feel better about your poor life choices to self-flagellate, go right ahead.

C. Long

The same can be said about not doing anything. If the only thing in life you have to be remotely proud of is military service I could understand blindly protecting it and refusing to acknowledge anything negative about it. The fact is if you aren’t all that fat, can run sort of fast and have a GED you can probably get into some branch of the service and be taught skills like shooting. Where is the wisdom in that? I understand it’s in the military’s best interest to have less then the brightest during but what about after? There has to be some oversight. Or thing like Dallas can happen.

NR Pax

I notice that never once do you answer the question: What is the origin of this obligation towards criminals that you seem to think we (Not you, pudwhacker since you aren’t one of us) comes from. Can you answer that question with an actual source that backs it up or are you just stirring shit up for fin?

C. Long

Not one of us? What group makes up this us? American citizen? Tax payer? Veteran? Conservative?

2/17 Air Cav

I’m guessing Earthlings, fucker. Earthlings.

NR Pax

Yep. Figured you won’t give an answer to a simple question.

C. Long

Ditto. 😉

JACK SHIT

You don’t know me, Christopher Long.

HMC Ret

Long: Well, if it’s in the military’s best interest to have less ‘then’ the brightest …

Looks as if you qualify. ‘Than’ would be the correct work to use. I’m thinking that’s not a typo on your part.

Also, if the problem(s) can be solved as you suggest in a previous post, why don’t you enlighten us as to the solution?

I’ll be waiting for your profound wisdom. You can buy a little time by letting me know that you’re working on a response.

Do you ever substantiate your assertions? Anyone can descend on a blog and offer random bullshit, as you typically do. How about an explanation or two on how to resolve the problems? ‘Then’ you won’t be held in such low regard.

Are you seriously suggesting meeting others ‘in the middle’ would have prevented this racist pig from shooting 12 white officers? Why don’t you round up the usual suspects for a meeting? That way you could prevent future horrific events such as this.

C. Long

Correct word….not correct work. See we can both draw attention from the subject by acting like typos invalidate opinions.

HMC Ret

Yes, but mine was a typo. You used the wrong word because, well, you’re basically an immature, stupid individual who trolls here and there, dropping smegma from your mouth. You bring nothing but stupidity to this blog, never once offering a meaningful suggestion, simply spouting foolishness which you NEVER substantiate by offering solutions. I asked a few questions in my above post. You plan to ignore them as you have consistently ignored all other requests for substantiation/support of your ramblings? Yeah, thought so. That seems par for you.

I’m not invalidating your opinion. I’m asking for something other than bullshit ‘let’s do this and/or do that’ w/o even one instance of substantiation. So, let’s hear it. You plan to say something profound? ‘Work’ on it. I’ll give you time to engage your three brain cells and come up with solutions to the many obvious issues you speak about. Or you can continue to ramble. You seem to excel in that capacity. Typos are acceptable; stupidity is not.

C. Long

Mine was a typo as well. As you’ve proven, nobody is perfect. I wasn’t using yours as a reason to insult you as you have me. I’m willing to dismiss it as being caused by possible tech difficulties like I have; typing on a tiny screen with a thin stylus perhaps. To your other point I’ve made plenty of posts here that agree with the majority. In fact, on most things posted by the adult crowd, I agree. I simple do not see the need to post affirmative posts most of the time especially given how fast these topics fall into petty insults aimed at the subject of said thread. This forum counts among its regulars open racists, homophobes and violence mongers and, even though I may find myself agreeing with them on certain things, I don’t want to validate their wrong positions by chiming in as well for whoever may read these topics in the future. For posterity I suppose haha Lastly I’m ignoring all things said here by certain posters because they have proven themselves to be childish and immature with even one in particular lacking the integrity to not edit their posts rather than admitting they are wrong or made a mistake. I like a good debate but it’s near impossible to point\counterpoint in that case. It’s usually just insults and petty threats aimed at me not that I’m worried. Those types wouldn’t even ask you for directions in real life. In the past I’ve fallen to their level, and believe me I can insult with the best of them, but I prefer to try and stay on the high road but again, nobody is perfect. Perhaps they should ask themselves why someone on a forum produces such a volatile response in themselves. If they are vets like they claim, and I have my doubts about one or two, they really make for me my point about the need for more stringent mental health help after service based on their responses. So my silence may look like I’ve nothing to say but it should be taken more… Read more »

JACK SHIT

You don’t know me, C. Long.

Ex-PH2

Oh, my. Clongodongo has shown ALL of us, by golly. Yes, s/he/it has let us ALL know what a hoity-toity self-absorbed twit s/he/it is, way up there above it all, pretending to s/hitself that s/he/it is FAR too good to be true or real.

Well, when you run into some pseudo-intellectual snot who likes to annoy people and gets the backfire out of it, the result is predictable. It’s all OUR fault because we don’t have quite the intellectual capacity s/he/itface thinks it has. (snerk!)

Oh, do go on, clongodongo. Prattle on, soul. We’ll just turn the sound down and pay no attention while you drivel an drool, trollbait.

C. Long
A Proud Infidel®™

HEY CLONG, you must be on fire because YOU REALLY need to stop, drop and roll the hell away from here, you pus-nutted dingleberry on a buck-toothed Swamp Donkey’s ass!

HMC Ret

Re your cartoonish attempt to be taken seriously, I’ve made my ‘argument’ above. I’m waiting for you to support your generic ramblings. Also, it’s not a matter of criticizing poor grammar, it’s about your not knowing what word to use. So, basically, it’s about your stupidity. Now, answer my questions if you can. Substantiate your ‘come together’ bullshit pablum.

C. Long

So why is it I use the wrong word and I’m an idiot but you do it and you aren’t? I think the word you are searching for is hypocrisy.

But hey at least mine was closer to being correct 😉

JACK SHIT

C. Long DOES NOT know me.

2/17 Air Cav

Yes, suddenly Clong would like to soften the sharp edges of his many comments disparaging Veterans and be taken seriously. I can hear his/uer/its violin playing as I scam his/her/its appeal for sympathy. Go fuck yourself Clong. It ain’t working. It ain’t going to work. You, sir, madam, or thing, are a POS.

2/17 Air Cav

Christopher Long, or Clong, doesn’t think highly of military Veterans. He believes, as he has recently commented, that Veterans are violence prone. When a member of the tiny percentage of criminals who have some experience with the military, no matter how short lived that experience, no matter the character or nature of that service experience, Christopher Long is quick to state that the criminal is just another violent Veteran. He has done it more than once in the past week alone. When asked to explain, when asked to provide authority for his bizarre, anti-Veteran statements, he runs and hides, only to reappear later to make another inane, indefensible accusation. I have no idea what his beef is. Maybe his grudge traces to being rejected for military service for immoral behavior, criminal convictions, or any one of a number of other sound reasons. I have no idea. Maybe Christopher Long actually entered service and was booted for cowardice, DADT violations, or any one of many other reasons. I have no idea. Or maybe he never tried to enlist at all. Again, I have no idea. What I do know about Clong from his comments here is that he is a royal asshole, with or without military experience.

Ex-PH2

Or WE could just ignore s/his’s sorry ass, right?

JACK SHIT

Christopher Long does not know me.

2/17 Air Cav

“I would disagree…” Dafuq kind of pompous and pretentious qualification is that? Disagree or don’t, fuckcake.

Hondo

Not at all. But as a group vets have a high propensity towards committing violent crimes.

Really? Than how about you reconcile that with this quote from the 2004 BOP study on the matter:

“Male veterans (630 prisoners per 100,000) were less than
half as likely as nonveteran men (1,390 prisoners per
100,000) to be in prison in 2004.”

That’s from page 2 of the study.

If you read further, you’ll see that the BOP study also includes as “veterans” anyone who claims to have served at all – which means it includes a group that legally doesn’t even qualify as veterans – i.e., ELS losers, fraudulent enlistees, those who got court-martialed out, etc . . . . (It also likely includes a group of liars who never served.) I’m guessing it’s that group of non-vets claiming to be vets that were responsible for much if not most of the violent crime among “veterans” noted in that 2004 study.

In the future, youngster, how about you quit blindly accepting leftist talking points as Gospel and actually do your freaking homework – if you’re capable of doing so, that is – before insulting vets who served honorably with some half baked drivel.

No, I’m not holding my breath – I know jerks and fools almost always continue being jerks and fools. But as the little kid in Angels in the Outfield put it: “Hey – it could happen!”.

HMCS(FMF) ret.

Hondo – thanks for the stats. I had a feeling that sChLONG was talking out of his rectal sphincter. He’s/SHe’s gotta be one of those that “Felt the Bern” before he sold out to teh Cankles yesterday

Silentium Est Aureum

Dude, you are so full of shit your eyes are brown.

HMC Ret

Hondo/Folks: He’s not going to reconcile anything. He is incapable of higher thought process. His life/arguments/existence is/are about liberal talking points. To him, and other stupid minions, those talking points seem profound, until one is challenged to substantiate them with facts. At that time, he posts a cartoon (see above) in an attempt to deflect criticism. That doesn’t work so he posts another liberal talking point, which he is certain will dazzle us with his profound intellect and serve to bring others into agreement with him. His very existence depends on our acceptance of him. Sad for him; entertaining for us.

Long: Feel free to address the statements in my previous post. Still waiting here … Chirp, chirp, chirp.

Hack Stone

If you were to replace ver/veteran with African-American in your statement above, would you post that comment? Probably not.

C. Long

Yes I would. That’s the problem with all groups like black lives matter or in this case veterans.

Nobody is willing to take responsibility for their own part in the negatives that befall them. In the case of BLM they only seem to care about the few instances where cops show bad judgement, not racism, in handling criminals resulting in the loss of life. They don’t much care to shine some light on all the lives lost to black on black crime.

The same with vets as a group. We are willing to celebrate the good ones out there doing all sort of good deeds but we aren’t willing to ask why too many of them go bad.

In both cases it’s due to the same reason; because we don’t want to see in ourselves what we see in others.

IDC SARC

“In both cases it’s due to the same reason; because we don’t want to see in ourselves what we see in others.”

With that logic it is a more valid measure of central tendency to see ourselves in law abiding citizens from all walks of life that work hard, live their lives and never engage in criminal activity.

You instead choose to focus on the aberrations and treat them as a measure of central tendency.

You’re either really bad at research methods, a very negative person or as is more likely…a troll.

C. Long

A responsible society takes credit for both its heroes and its monsters.

IDC SARC

We do…that’s why we honor our heroes and have laws and penalties for breaking them when members of society choose of their own free will to abdicate their responsibilities.

Beyond that and based on the ambiguity of your statement…I dunno what to tell ya.

C. Long

That responsibility would extend to trying to prevent the creation of said monsters. If this does that then maybe we should look at this.

IDC SARC

so you’ve said.. previously in previous oversimplification.

IDC SARC

da fukk? I really need to proofread sometimes.

ah well.

IDC SARC

correction..so you’ve said previously in a similar oversimplification.

i.e. great idea to prevent such things, but you offer no tangible method with which to do so.

C. Long

I have offered solutions while acknowledging that I’m not the right person to make those calls.

SFC D

A responsible society is made up of individuals who take responsibility for their actions, both good and bad, and don’t blame their bad actions on other individuals. Irresponsible individuals create an irresponsible society. It’s that simple.

C. Long

Except it’s not that simple. Some people don’t have the ability to make the right decisions sometimes regardless of intent. These are the people we shouldn’t be arming or teaching to kill. Certainly we can all agree on that.

I

IDC SARC

Where do you draw the line, what assessment methodology do you employ that has demonstrable reliability and predictability? In this methodology what is an acceptable rate of false positive/negative outcomes?

SFC D

Sure, we can agree on that. Do they have a special tattoo that identifies them?

C. Long

Nope. Doesn’t that make the case that we should be doing more to weed them out before hand and keep an eye on them afterwards?

Ex-PH2

Who is ‘we’? You got a mouse in your pocket, clong?

Hondo

The military already does that through two methods. First step is pre-entry screening (legal, educational, etc . . . ). That’s coupled with Entry Level Separations that catch the vast majority of those who slip through the first screen.

No screening process will ever be perfect. If that’s what you’re wanting, well, I hope enjoy the fantasies while smoking “dried plant material” in yer pipe, youngster.

2/17 Air Cav

“Some people don’t have the ability to make the right decisions sometimes regardless of intent.” What sort of decisions, Clong? You mean like deciding to attribute a murderer’s evildoing to his military training? Like deciding that Chris Kyle is a valor thief? Those kinds of things?

2/17 Air Cav

“A responsible society takes credit for both its heroes and its monsters.”

Dafuq is that nonsense? Maybe on your planet Clong, but here on Earth, a responsible society elevates and admires its heroes (Chris Kyle, anyone?) and executes or imprisons its monsters. You seem to be stuck on this silly idea that if a Veteran does something evil, it is your personal task to fixate on his Veteran status. The duration and character of that service never enters into your thinking. To you, the evil worked by someone who at least took the oath of enlistment is attributable to the military. That is absolute horseshit. The military discourages and punishes bad conduct. It encourages and rewards good conduct. When a Veteran does something heroic or admirable as a civilian, his actions are consistent with military ideals. When a Veteran does something evil, his evildoing is inconsistent with military ideals. Why is that so hard for you to get through that fat head of yours? Instead, you want to associate a murderer’s actions to his military training and accuse a bona fide hero of lies and Stolen Valor. And then you have the audacity to attempt to justify both. You are nothing more than a little fuckcake.

Hondo

C. Long bloviates thusly:

A responsible society takes credit for both its heroes and its monsters.

Oh, bullsh!t. The correct phrase is that a good society honors its heroes and deals effectively with its monsters. Society deserves neither credit for the former nor blame for the latter. A hero, by definition, does something outside the norm – something society did not require. A monster similarly defies the norms of society. Society didn’t create either; the individual in each case is responsible for their acts.

In this context, “society” is defined as “the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community”. The only responsibility “society” has towards its members is to treat them equitably and to provide a reasonable degree of protection against unsanctioned violence (this implies protection against external aggression, AKA “defense”, as well as law enforcement of those laws accepted at the time as valid). Anything else is an infringement on individual liberty, which may or may not be justified depending on the circumstances.

“Thy brother’s keeper” is a moral principle – and one that’s not absolute. Try to do that in practice, and at some point it crosses the line to become an immoral restriction of others’ rights.

If you want to live in a nanny state that “cares for you”, I can suggest several – and will kick in some $$$ to defray the cost of your move and the renunciation of your US citizenship. But that’s not currently acceptable in this nation. Here, we allow people to be individuals – not mindless drones parroting the party line. And we hold them accountable accordingly.

Hondo

So, in other words you’re an advocate for both collective action and collective responsibility. You appear to believe both of those take precedence over individual responsibility and individual actions.

Have I got that right, or would you care to obfuscate further?

Ex-PH2

Well, that does it, Hondo. You’ve outed clongodongo as part of The Collective, 1 of 9. You will now be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

IDC SARC

I say we all get cerebral implants and surrender to the omniscience and obey the commands of the hive mind.

Hondo

Phok dot krrp.

Hondo

Yeah, right. That unit doesn’t have the inherent capability to assimilate a flea.

IDC SARC

unlike The Red Hot Chili Peppers which seem to have completely assimilated a Flea.

Hondo

I think that’s more an example of a symbiotic relationship. (smile)

River Rat

He has a CIB yet not one award for valor? I do find that curious.

Claw

His CIB came from DMZ duty in Korea.

Hondo

CIB doesn’t require an act of valor, just (1) having an Infantry MOS, (2) assignment to an infantry position at Bde or lower level, and (3) personally engaging the enemy in ground combat while so serving. Awards for valor (as opposed to service) aren’t generally handed out for merely doing one’s assigned duties as required – even when doing them takes cojones.

However, even after the AFEM was no longer authorized for Korean service the CIB could be awarded for DMZ service. The former requirement for 5 documented firefight incidents (which was unique to Korea) was dropped many years ago, retroactively – sometime in the 1990s, I think, but perhaps in the 1980s.

I’m more curious regarding how/why his AFEM was awarded. His record of assignments puts him in Korea well AFTER the period for which service in Korea qualified for an AFEM (1 Oct 1966 to 30 Jun 1974) had ended – he didn’t arrive there until 1975 – so if it’s legit it’s not for Korea. And also per his record of assignments, he doesn’t seem to have served in any of the other operations between 1975 and 1998 (Eagle Pull, Frequent Wind, Grenada, El Dorado Canyon, the Persian Gulf, or Haiti) that would result in award of an AFEM. The only think I can figure is 30+ days consecutive/60 days aggregate nonconsecutive duty in the Persian Gulf. And that doesn’t even seem to be plausible, given his assignments.

Anyone see something I missed here?

Club Manager

It is scary to read you using the words “cuddle” and “CSM” in the same sentence. I will probably have nightmares over that thought.

jarhead

Would someone please explain to me…is C Long the infamous Lars with another name again? If not, surely his brother.

nbcguy54ACTUAL

I’m thinking that he’s Lars left nut…

USMCMSgt(Ret)

I was thinking the same thing.

sj

Please tell me its not “Reporting Live”! 🙂

Ex-PH2

No, ‘Reporting Live’ is someone entirely different.

sj

Duh. I know that.

MrBill

If Lars is commenting under a different name I think I know who it might be. This individual was commenting the other day and he came across to me as Lars-like, but making an effort to low-key his comments and not be an ass. If that’s so I’d like to encourage him to continue in that vein – so I won’t spill the beans on what I think his new identity is.

NR Pax

He already owned up to what name he was using.

jarhead

You would be the go-to guy on the identity. However, take notice of the Lars similar “I”, “I”, “I”, “I”, “I”, with most every sentence. At least I had reasonable suspicion. Any chance Lars has a mental twin?

Ex-PH2

If you recall from last winter, clongodongo showed up trying to stir the pot, claimed service but would not verify until someone did the legwork and found Carlton Long’s post, and then claimed THAT as HIS own, which was pure BS, as we know. And if I recall correctly, this clong aka christopher long said he’s from outside Frankfort, KY.

Basically, s/he/it is just trollbait looking for a spot to yank people around if s/he thinks they’re gullible enough (not!) to fall for that crap.

Best thing to do is ignore clong and move on.

KillerB

This dickless wonder doesn’t live all that far from me. They just should have tied some weights around his ankles and dumped his ass in Casco bay.

A Proud Infidel®™

Not a bad idea, let his corpse be crab food and save taxpayers the expense of feeding, clothing and housing him for the rest of his worthless life.

lily

OK where’s his mother? We need to find out if he was good boy before joining the army.

HMC Ret

If you find him, you’ll find his mother. He lives in her basement.

2/17 Air Cav

“This forum counts among its regulars open racists, homophobes and violence mongers and, even though I may find myself agreeing with them on certain things, I don’t want to validate their wrong positions by chiming in as well for whoever may read these topics in the future.” C. Long

How many racists are regulars here? According to Christopher Long, the number must be two or more since he used the plural, racists. What does Clong mean by the term racist? Probably much the same thing he has in mind when he uses the term “homophobes.” The sane world recognizes that homophobia is an irrational fear of homosexuals, just as the sane world understands “racists” to be those who reject or dislike, in one form or another, someone of a different race based solely upon the difference in race. Are those the definitions Clong attaches to the terms racist and homophobe? You can bet the mortgage they are not. And how about “violence mongers?” What is a violence monger? I have no idea what he means. Is that someone who is advocates meeting violence with greater violence? Is it someone who instructs others on tactics and techniques assured to deliver injury or death to another? Like I said, I have no idea what that term means as Clong employs it. But there are multiple racists, homophobes, and violence mongers who are TAH regulars, he says. And what does Clong do to bring enlightenment to these regulars, to strike a blow for decency, understanding, and justice? Why he runs away, of course. He says so himself in the quote above. You see, rather than counter what he sees as wrongs, he fears that he will be associated with those who perpetrate those wrongs. He’s afraid, afraid that if one of you racist, homophobic war mongers writes something with which he agrees, he’ll be regarded as a racists, homophobic, war monger for agreeing with you. And that says much about Christopher Long. It says to the world, quite perfectly, what a spineless coward the little shit is.

Ex-PH2

AirCav, quit feeding the trollbait.

clong has all the importance of used toilet paper. He’s an asshole. End of story.

2/17 Air Cav

Clong comes to a military blog–this military blog–and besmirches Veterans. If I were to be silent or ignore his crooked point of view, well, my silence could be construed to be acquiescence. So, no, he doesn’t get ignored. He doesn’t go unchallenged.

2/17 Air Cav

Speaking of silence as acquiescence, a visitor could (and I hope will) construe Christopher Long’s chosen silence in response to the many racists, homophobes and violence mongers he says are at TAH to be his accord with their views.

Ex-PH2

Okay, but don’t get HBP over it. Nothing is worth that.

jon spencer

Does the (ex)wife get to open or reopen divorce hearings to claim his pension as alimony?

John Robb

For many years he was the Director of Sales for Laser Shot, a company that makes firearms training simulators. Guess they need to revamp their system

Skippy

Just saw NBCs Dateline special on this POS
All they can talk about was he was SF and a sniper
Why is it so hard for the news to report fact instead of
Embellishing the facts