Phony SEAL Marvin Whiteaker’s records
Earlier this month, we featured Don Shipley’s telephonic confrontation with Marvin Whiteaker who claimed to be honorary “off-the-books” SEAL Marine. Hondo went the extra mile and got his records. So here they are;
So how does that compare to what he’s wearing? His explanation to Don was that he wasn’t supposed to be there (where ever there was), so he just pinned them on. He claimed that he was in Beirut for the bombing – I’m beginning to think the whole Marine Corps was in Beirut and snipers.
Category: Phony soldiers
Egad, seven rows of ribbons? Is he Soup Sandwich’s cousin?
Sadly, I have about that many, mixed Army, AF, Guard state awards. It’s embarrassing.
There’s even a couple of rows of ribbons that prove I served and went to NCO training, which you wouldn’t otherwise be able to tell by the uniform and stripes.
The participation crap should be done away with.
Of course, I don’t wear a purple heart or a whatever that red thing is, because I didn’t earn them.
A GCM and an NDSM. If that doesn’t scream high speed…oh wait, it doesn’t.
During duty hours he was a Marine pogue repairman; at night he became…SUPER SEEKRIT SEAL MAN !!!
This.
The guy had 16 1/2 years and two “was alive during certain periods” medals!?! Makes you wonder what the circumstances of his discharge were.
Barely half of that was active service, 68W58.
Dunno how the USMC manages their enlisted reserve personnel, but I’m guessing it’s possible he hit the equivalent of an RCP and was told to take a hike.
Of course, there are numerous other possibilities, too.
That’s probably so, but the Marines do have an equivalent to the Army Reserve Components Achievement Medal (reserve Good Conduct Medal)-and he doesn’t have one.
True. But like the ARCAM, the Select Marine Corps Reserve Medal (SMCRM) requires 3 consecutive “good” years in a qualifying billet (NOT the IRR) – and prior to 1996, it required 4 years. It also requires the unit to process the paperwork and actually award it. That’s always a problem.
This guy had a stint of close to 5 years in the USMCR, and another of a bit over 3 years. One non-qual year in each period would have killed any chance of his getting the SMCRM.
Or he could have been in the IRR both times, done little or nothing, and finally gotten the boot in 1999. My money’s on the latter option, but you never know.
BTW-I knew at least one guy who ran into a similar situation in the Marine Reserves and came over into the Guard to finish out his 20, so I wonder what kind of re-enlistment code this guy had and why he didn’t do something similar given that he had so much time in service.
Meritorious Mast? You don’t even get a ribbon for that do you? hell I’m AF and have more Navy and Marine Ribbons than this douche nugget.
(Navy MUC)
I’d guess that’s Meritorious Masturbation.
Naw–no ribbon but they put those on the DD-214 way back then. Mine is listed on my DD-214. Not uncommon but no ribbon.
Somethings wrong. All that time in and only three awards. There’s something more to his story he’s not sharing.
Is it me or was he TAD a LOT? Nobody wanted him around?
This Son of a Bitch wasn’t in Beirut. Wasn’t in Operation Desert Storm. And he wasn’t a fuckin Drill Instructor either. Lying about being a SEAL are just a fraction of his bullshit lie’s
From June 1982 – January 1996 his service was continuous until he was transferred to the IRR. If my math is right, that’s 13 years, 6 months, 11 days. Something about this screams some sort of punitive action followed with service limitations…especially since he was discharged as a Sergeant. There’s more to this story than what his FOIA is telling us. I’d like to see his OFFENSES and PUNISHMENTS page (NAVMC 118(12)) or pg. 13.
USMCE8Ret: unfortunately, those pages of the NAVMC 118 are not items NPRC will release w/o the consent of the individual concerned – unless the individual has been out of the military for in excess of 62 years and the records have become archival.
You raise an interesting point, though. Based on his assignments, you would appear to be correct. I don’t there there are a lot of USMCR units on Okinawa. (smile) However, for some reason the NA Form 13164 (FOIA release form) seems to miss the nearly 5 years of active service between 1985 and 1990.
I wonder if a copy of his 1990 reenlistment DD214 never made it into his OMPF.
There is an Individual Augment detachment (SMCR unit) in Okinawa, but I don’t think they existed back then.
BTW, I forgot to add… this guy is a shit-bag.
NO PERSONAL AWARDS!
In the FBI they call that a clue!
I’m guessing one of two things, MCPO – revised based on USMCE8Ret’s observation above.
1. Good worker, but troublesome case and managed to get an NJP about every 2-3 years; never rose above E5; hit HYT during the 1990s drawdown and went into the USMCR IRR; then got removed from USMCR IRR for nonparticipation.
OR
2. Good worker, but got an occasional NJP; made E6; stepped on crank bigtime in 1995 and got a Field Grade NJP or SpCM w/o BCD and lost a stripe; loss of stripe triggered immediate discharge for HYT; went into USMCR IRR; then got removed from USMCR IRR for nonparticipation.
I’m guessing no ADSEP because he was allowed to go into the USMCR. Could be wrong, though.
High-Year Tenure limit for Sgt is 13 years, so being denied reenlistment with 13+ years is certainly possible. If scenario #2 were the case, he would have been allowed to finish his contract and then denied reenlistment with no IRR afterward.
One does not get removed from IRR for nonparticipation… No participation is required. That’s what makes it the Individual Ready Reserve. Short of being discharged for cause, you get out of the IRR by not reenlisting when your time is up.
And just for the record, whatever the backstory, he’s a douchenozzle now.
Interesting. I thought I read recently that policy now was to discharge anyone immediately who “busted” HYT due to a reduction. Perhaps I misread it, or maybe policy has changed since the 1990s.
Either way, I agree with your follow-up comment.
I just want to publicly state that I was never in Beirut nor have I been a sniper…..and my old ass is definately not going through that training now…..LOL
This guy is a jackass…I still say that if the Marine Corps flag in the picuture weren’t there, we would see the walls of his mom’s basement. Just my thoughts…
Semper Phoney.
Why are the descriptions of each of his primary duties blacked out?
NPRC does that sometimes, JRM. Not sure if that’s required or not. I believe I’ve seen records of assignments released by NPRC both with those viewable and with those blacked-out.
Shitbag.
Looks like a Bronze Star under his incorrectly placed jump wings and scuba bubble. In addition, he has a DI ribbon, which certainly explains his DI cover and steely eyed stare. He also has all of the Gulf War One “I was there” medals. He is also wearing the UN Multi National Force and Observers Medal, which is a rookie mistake for Beirut posers. He has on a PUC and I do not believe there were any Marine units that were awarded that unit citation during the time frame that he served. He really is a work of art.
I was in Beirut 83-84, but was not a sniper at that time. I guess I was the only guy there that was not. I also do not recall seeing Marvins stupid ass, but he was probably in a ghillie suit and was invisible to the naked eye. Or he was doing some secret shit that involved him, a tube of lube, a goat and a vivid imagination.
Go die Marvin.
MGySgtRet: as it was related to me by someone who (allegedly) observed it, the goat story was real. But happened later, and in a different place: along the Iraq-Kuwait border in late 1990 or early 1991. And it wasn’t a US trooper.
I have got to get around to writing up that story and posting it here one day. (smile)
You do and I will sue you back to the stone age. What happens in the desert stays in the desert.
PS the goat will sue you too.
The goat’s name is Bill Blake of Oklahoma, aka Zippy the Pinhead, aka Ghey Billy the Bedwetter.
Master Gunns. You didn’t see Marvin in Beirut because he was operating in the Druze mountains by himself, spotting and calling artillery fire. 🙂
Looks like he was still being honored for his “service” in Beirut as late as 2012:
http://www.ocala.com/article/20120528/ARTICLES/120529710?p=2&tc=pg
Another member of the U.S. Military Vets Motorcycle Club. That’s three that I remember. Monkress, Big Dog Keeton and now Whiteaker.
SEMPER STOMPON POSERS!!
Phildo and the boys ride again.
Hmmmm. . . .
Come down to ol’ Merrit Island
With Phildo and Big Dog and the boys
As soon as my suspension ends
We’re Ridin’ on our pretty bikey toys . . . .
Yeah, might have to give that one a shot one day soon. Sorry, Willie; RIP, Waylon. (smile)
This is the way I have always imagined that MC.
“Black Widows” was the call sign/nick name of my Assault Helicopter Company (C,101 AHB) in Vietnam.
How about Eric Von Zipper from the “Beach Party” movies of the 60’s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvQbVOmY8Hc
Every time something went wrong with Von Zipper, he always said, “Why me, WHY ME ALL THE TIME”!
Sorry, I didn’t see your comment until after I posted “He gave himself the finger!” clip.
Hooah!
Only two things: (1) This MC is probably tougher and (2) Cholo could probably whip Phildo’s ass.
Or …. Eric von Zipper.
Annette Funicello calls them the “Carbon Monoxide Commandos.” Apropos
“He gave himself the finger!”
Hey Jonn; I don’t know if I read it correctly, but my takeaway is that the USMVMC was doing the flag procession, not that this numbnuts was a member of the MC. I could be wrong (it wouldn’t be the first time, but it would be the first time today).
In the video, Don mentions that he was in a vets’ MC so I just extrapolated the given information.
Okie dokie. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Whatever.
This guy was my Drill Instructor for plt 8082 on the Moon. We served in the Moon wars together.
Ya’ll probably just never heard about it.
Excuse me, the black helicopters are en route.
Fat Circles 0311….
Tell me about it….
I used to live in the barracks here while I was doing my space shuttle door gunner training before the aliens firebombed it when we were out on training ops.
Man was I pissed off… had to buy all new uniforms AND we lost all our stash of Tequila, good Jamaican run, Cuban cigars and beer…
http://milspecmonkey.com/patches/ssdg-batch1.jpg
Just another medic that did his time At the Phobos Prime shipyard and repair facility… dual qualified as a trilithium refueler and corbomite weapons technician. Worked hard, played hard… especially when those Green Orion girls showed up for the USSO shows! YOWSA!!!
PS – Never mess around with those Rigellian chicks… can give you a nasty case of Andromidan scabies that can eat your hoo-haa off is 30 seconds…
I knew all about you guys, since I was the senior door gunner on the space shuttle missions in support of Operation Moon Over Parador.
Keep that shit quiet, man!
Sorry I missed that mustercall. I was two bizy playun pianeer at da cathouse, in Naw Lins drinkun alla my monies away. What’d I miss? 😎
OK.
The FOIA don’t match his service records. He had no gap like they are saying.
The Guy went from Boot Camp to Lejuene for MOS school ( Im Thinking he was a 1300 engineer type mechanic/vehicle operator. Right after School he went to Pendelton did a few years went to Okinawa for 3 years back to Lejuene for a few years. He did another hitch in okinawa for a year and closed out his active duty in Yuma Az.
One thing that stands out is he did 2 extended tours of Okinawa and does not have an overseas ribbon, which he should have had ( with a star).
Probably an average to below average performer who reached service limitations. That he never did a B billet ( recruiter or DI) probably didnt help his case
Looked again and its very clear the FOIA is Screwed up. In Aug 85 he was Discharged BUT Reenlisted for Retention on Station ( 1st Mainbn Pendelton.) he went to Okinawa in Jan 87, returning in 1990. No gap in active sevice.
Yea? Well, hang on to your hats. I walked right in to a possible poser this afternoon via his friend flapping his gums about being a SNIPER and saying he was a highly paid military po-po two tours over yonder.
I asked him what company, he passed on it and with his friends help kept going on and on about being an MP. Both of ’em asked me what I did in the Army because I wear on old hat to grease moneky in.
Told ’em I washed pots n pans in the messhall and kept the sergeant majors lawn mowed n trimmed. He got away before I could find out his full name so its gonna be a bit…
Jonn/TAH Admins,
If you really want to know how service members/vets feel about you guys..
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Aw, they mad, bro?
EAFBOD, spammer.
Who gives a shit what some butt buddy of Dillwad has to say? Seriously, Wittlessone brought it all on himself, and of course his pal doesn’t mention the fact that Dallas was tossed out of the Special Forces Association for lying about his qualifications to be a member, among a series of other transgressions they found egregious enough to toss his ass.
Once again though, and for the record. I am one of the idiots favorite targets to come after, yet I have never once called him a Poser. I have called him out on his utter lack of character and for being a drunken idiot, but never questioned his record. Pretty sure I defended his CIB award in fact, yet I am one of those he tried to get fired from their job. A couple of times.
So Dallass can go pound sand up his mangina, and maybe his little butt buddies can assist him.
Back in the day, navy and marines coils retire as E 7 and above with only three or four ribbons in the rack. The sea services didnt used to be big on individual awards so that doesn’t mean much. The other stuff does drop a lot of hints as to a guy no one wanted.
The SSDR was put in the record books of everyone I knew that deployed. It was one of the few awards that were actually earned in the late 70s and early 80s. The vast Majority of Marines I knew who served from 77-81 got our with A SSDR a good conduct.
The Marine Corps had a conundrum because the SSDR was only awarded to FMF units. If you were sent to Okinawa as part of the Base’s permanent personnel you didnt rate a SSDR. Marines on Embassy duty did not rate it either. In 1986 the Marines started issuing the Overseas Service Ribbon to non FMF types that went to Okinawa or other overseas non-FMF units.
Given the above observations about Whiteacre’s FOIA response from NPRC not being consistent with his records, I’ve filed a follow-up FOIA request. I did that to see if NPRC screwed up the original FOIA reply posted above.
The follow-up specifically identifies the disconnect noted – e.g., the discrepancy in his active duty dates which shows him in the USMCR during 1985-1990 when his record of assignments shows him assigned to a unit in Okinawa during the same period.
I’m guessing the follow-up will add a couple of things to what’s posted above, but is still going to show NO BSM, NO PH, NO SEAL qual, NO RECON qual or service, NO service in Beirut, NO drill sergeant service or qual, NO scuba qual, and NO airborne qual.
Let’s see what the follow-up says.
Whiteaker admitted to all of his pretendery in the video, by the way.
Yeah, unlike most we see Whiteacre at least admitted to his lies.
I’d still like to make sure we get the “full story” from NPRC. And I want to see NPRC do their job properly.
Mistakes happen. Correcting them is simply the right thing to do.
An “off the books SEAL”?
So, a drug dealer is an off the books pharmacist?