25th Marine Regiment leadership canned
Lieutenant General Rex McMillian canned the top leadership of the 25th Marine Regiment the other day, according to Stars & Stripes.
Lt. Gen. Rex McMillian, who commands the Marine Forces Reserve, relieved Col. Morgan Mann, commander of the 25th Marine Regiment, Sgt. Maj. James Boutin, the regimental inspector-instructor, and Chief Warrant Officer 3 Robert Hoy, the personnel officer, Aranda said Friday.
Aranda declined to give any further details about why the officers were relieved. He also would not say whether there was an ongoing investigation.
Category: Marine Corps
Canned a Warrant? How’d they find him?
Left a bottle of booze unsecured on the quarterdeck.
Hit him with a tranq gun when he came out in the open.
He was only a CW3. That’s why he made a rookie mistake.
You’d never catch a Gunner or CW5 that way
Great! I do note that they don’t have a picture of the Warrant so he has mastered some E&I techniques. Hope they didn’t catch him at a PT formation…that would be embarrassing.
Now that I agree with. As I patiently explained to an officer at Schweinfurt, we don’t do PT or pull duty officer.
“Hope they didn’t catch him at a PT formation…that would be embarrassing.”
Wouldn’t happen.
We also ran our PFT’s at a clandestine boat ramp on Floyd Bennett Field…
Floyd Bennett Field, a blast from the past. Remember the fighters taking off from there and the quonset huts along the Belt Parkway that had AA Batteries stationed there during the war.
I thought that Warrant Officers took Phantom Physical Fitness Tests? Has CEO5 USMC opined on this yet?
Watch that shit Stacy
Secure that shit!
LMAO!
Watch that shit Sj.
A Colonel, Sergeant Major AND a Warrant Officer canned? Must have been a major screw-the-pooch orgy, I wonder what we’ll hear next?
This is gonna be an interesting story to read, for sure.
Sounds like the E4 mafia ratted them out, lol
‘Three senior leaders of the 25th Marine Regiment were relieved of command Wednesday due to a loss of confidence, said Maj. Andrew Aranda, a Marine Forces Reserve spokesman.
[…].’
‘Loss of confidence’ again.
With the CWO3 personnel officer involved, my initial suspicion is possible tomfoolery with TAD money. Or maybe tomfoolery on a TAD trip?
I was thinking the same thing… some fraudulent TAD may have taken all three down.
When you hands are on the money, make damned sure you wash after every encounter.
Boutin is as crooked as they come
Im thinking there might be Property Book fouls involved…or hookers. Hopefully it was the hookers.
If its Property Book, Claw can do some “Quarterly Dropage” magic to help.
What’s with the hair on the lip?
I’m waiting for DaveHardin to chime in. He has to find the floor first, so forgive his tardiness.
Does he also need to get permission from his Household Soviet as well?
“Doesn’t…”. Damn lack of proofreading.
Oh, yeah. She probably has him running the floor buffer on his hands and knees this morning.
Is that with or without the ball gag accessory kit?
I’m sure that Dave will tell us real soon…
Has she even let him out of the handcuffs yet?
I’m thinking there’s a “safe word” involved with that API…
Is the safe word “spandex”?
Ok, so the 25th Marine Regiment is a reserve unit? Ok, plenty of time for stupid things to happen.
These guys would be active duty Inspector Instructors and you are right; plenty of time to figure out how to step on your crank. Being on independent duty so far from the flag pole it is not uncommon for I&I Staffs to run afoul of the law, their higher and even public perception.
By way of disclosure, I did 3 years with the 23rd Marine HQ in Alameda back in the early 80s. Had a great time, saw a lot of people relieved for cause or for “loss of confidence” particularly at the Capt level in the various Companies.
I and I is as much of a career-killer as any B billet out there.
The Regimental CO would have to be a Reservist.
When 2/23 deployed to Okinawa in December iso ODS/S, we were located at Camp Hansen with 1/25. What a shit show! One Battalion isn’t a whole Regiment but they were a very sorry lot. Their morale was even poorer than their war fighting skills. In 1990-91 they still had fistfights over race. Being on the training ground with them caused us to be extra vigilant. They illustrated the expression “leadership failure” to absolute perfection. It is widely known that “trouble ships” and “sad-sack outfits” are possessed of very deep cultural issues that stubbornly refuse correction, year after year. When this story unfolds more fully, I for one will not be surprised if the cause isn’t one of insufficient Readiness in the ranks. Or worse, behavior and expressions of beliefs contrary to the foundational values of the Marine Corps. The Coach gets sacked, someone else tries to fix the problem.
DOUG out
Belay my last!
It was 1/24, not 1/25 of whom I spoke. The 24th Marines were deactivated in September, 2013. 1/24 passed to 25th Marine Regiment, while 2/24 passed to 23rd Marine Regiment and 3/24 was disbanded.
Apologies to all.
Remedial PFT for HMCS(FMF) REID.
DOUG out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24th_Marine_Regiment_(United_States)#Operation_Desert_Storm_.2F_First_Gulf_War
It could have changed, particularly with the recent war footing but it used to be the Regt Commander was acdu along with the SgtMaj while the Bn and Co cdrs were reservists. The I&I Capts back then held no leadership role in the TOE. Relief for cause back then was usually related to money (imprest fund, supply etc) and crimes of moral turpitude ( once had a lothario Capt fall in love with a very young Vista volunteer and his wife she no likey!).
In this case, the Regimental CO, SgtMaj and Personnel Officer are all active duty. The commanders and senior enlisted for all the subordinate companies under the regiment are reservists, supported by the Inspector-Instructor staff (also active).
There’s probably money involved, along with some sort of negative command climate issues. I guess we’ll see.
As for the Sergeant Major, he needs to refamiliarize himself with the grooming regulations.
I have a pair of tweezers that could be used to help him remember the thing about hair on the upper lip.
apparently mustache regulations don’t apply to BTN SgtMa……
I don’t see anything blatantly wrong with his moustache.
e. Facial hair: Regardless of whether a Marine is on duty or on leave & liberty, his face will be clean-shaven with the exception of eyebrows and eyelashes. Excessive plucking or removal of eyebrows is not authorized except for medical reasons. Exception to this rule will be a medical officer has determined that shaving is temporarily harmful to the individual’s health. In these cases, the current edition of MCO 6310.1 applies. A mustache may also be worn.
That’s written in Plain English, (which has to be translated for some Marines) clearly stating “must be clean-shaven”. Exceptions are “for medical reasons”.
Khe Sanh under fire: water was brought in in blivets and/or barrels, for drinking purpose ONLY. There was none to spare for bathing or shaving, especially during the Tet Offensive when anything in the sky was a target. So if you didn’t have a battery-powered razor, you were SOL.
Ma’am, you said it yourself “A mustache may also be worn.” I believe what you are quoting is old, current regulations say “The face will be clean-shaven, except that a mustache may be worn. When worn, the mustache will be neatly trimmed and must be contained within the lines of B-B’, C-C’, D-D’ and the margin area of the
upper lip, as shown in figures 1-1 and 1-2. The individual length of a mustache hair fully extended must not exceed 1/2 inch. 2. Except for a mustache, eyebrows, and eyelashes, hair may be grown on the face only when a medical officer has determined that shaving is temporarily harmful to the individual’s health. In these cases, the current edition of MCO 6310.1 applies.” I know I’m not as experienced as some of you, but in the nineteen years (so far) I’ve spent as an active duty Marine mustaches have been authorized, except maybe at the Depots.
They were authorized in 86 when I came in
Read for content: it refers to medical conditions,to wit:
Exception to this rule will be a medical officer has determined that shaving is temporarily harmful to the individual’s health. In these cases, the current edition of MCO 6310.1 applies. A mustache may also be worn.
determined to be temporarily harmful to the individual’s health….
I think that’s pretty clear, unless of course, that Marine is using his mustache as a hanky or a soup strainer.
Later that day, he had a 70s porno shoot. He figured since a SEAL could do it, he’d give it a try too.
Dat’s a good one!
With all the zeroes and senior enlisted going down you’d think Commanders DoD wide would have noticed by now they are pretty damn far from untouchable.
25th Marine Regiment? How do Marines count past 21?
Corpsman do their math. No shit, when I was cadre on the range, calculating scores was my job, because according to the SNCOIC, ” Docs do math.” 🙂
Usually 23 is the upper limit
Marines can only count past 23 if it involves ammo, food or leave.
Or how many girls they hooked up with.
Really? Come on, its not that hard. I would restart counting my fingers and toes once I got passed 20.
I lost part of a foot to frostbite which screwed me up for a while but damn MSG, Marines adapt and overcome!
BREAKING NEWS
Investigators close to the case and not authorized to publicly discuss details of the violations do say, “SGT MAJ Boutin did fail to maintain grooming standards of the USMC, to wit … he routinely fashioned his mustache to resemble Royal Air Force Pilot Wings”.
Evidence: https://www.google.com/search?q=royal+air+force+pilot+wings&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjCtqPW_uDWAhXJ4CYKHYT6AeEQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=590
I thought that Warrant Officers in the USMC were pretty rare.
My exposure to WO’s in the Army were either young punk aviators who may or may not live long enough to be seasoned awesome aviators, Squadron Motor Officer types who could disassemble/assemble M60A3, M-3’s, M-88’s and such blindfolded using only their hands to torque things down, or Finance gods/goddesses that one did not screw with.
Must have been some bad shit to get a Marine Corps WO canned.
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