Joe Biden Speaks….

| October 18, 2020 | 38 Comments

Girl and gun dog

Oh, here we go: Mr. Biden doth proclaim his POV regarding how cops should act when confronted by overexcited criminals.

Joe Biden wants cops to be trained to shoot people in the leg instead of center mass. Like, man, he’s such an expert that he fires the shotgun off the balcony at his house, right?

Okay, whatever, but here’s the link to the article. There are links for the same thing from other sources than Fox.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/police-rip-bidens-advice-to-shoot-suspects-in-the-leg

From the article:  Law enforcement groups blasted Vice President Joe Biden for again suggesting training police to shoot suspects “in the leg” is a viable way to avoid fatalities, decrying the proposal as dangerous and ignorant.

During an ABC News town hall Thursday, Biden gave the shooting advice while talking about broader police reforms, which have been on the public conscience since the killing of George Floyd sparked nationwide racial unrest.

“There’s a lot of things we’ve learned and it takes time, but we can do this,” Biden said. “You can ban chokeholds … you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances. … Instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg.” – article

I notice two things: he’s NOT antigun in this proposal; in addition, he thinks he knows more than professional law enforcement people on what cops should do.

I’d love to have the Secret Squirrel viewpoint about this, but that can wait a bit.

Category: 2020 Election, Biden, Crime, Darwin Awards

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  1. Hack Stone says:

    So if some “unhinged disgruntled citizen” approaches Candidate Biden with a weapon, the Secret Service should just shoot the individual in the leg?

  2. 5th/77th FA says:

    “Terminate…with extreme prejudice!” Laffed my azz off when this popped up on my news feeds yesterday. Figured one of y’all would snag it up. Glad you put the picture of the little Hottie with the Shottie and the Spaniely Puppy.

    Not teh only stoopid thing old Creepy Gropey Joe has said…or done. I believe the only Police Force that may endorse Joe is one in China…or maybe Ukraine.

    Not sure what is more scary, this idiot or the damn fools that vote for him. Forty seven years of working on your house and your house is still falling apart. I “LIKED” that one!

  3. If the perp has a gun, it’s easier to shoot him/her in the gun hand. If you don’t believe me, just ask George O’brien, Hoot Gibson, Jim Newill, Jimmy Wakely, Ken Maynard, Johnny Mac Brown, Lash Larue, Ray Crash Corrigan, Rex Allen, Roy Rogers, Sunset Carson, Tex Ritter, Tim Holt, Tom Mix,Allan Rocky Lane, Gene Autry, Bill Cody, Bob Livingston, Bob Steele, Buck Jones, Buster Crabbe, Charles Starrett, Dick Foran, Eddie Dean, Fred Scott, Wild Bill Elliot, Whip Wilson and William Boyd if they were still around.

    • David says:

      Or you could ask John Russell (“Lawman”, possibly the best, most under-appreciated ’50s western). A legit decorated WWII combat vet, he only drew to shoot, and when he shot, pretty much only went for center of mass.

      I think it is a basic truism that those who advocate loudest for a leg shot are those who have never shot, or if they have, couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn wall – from the inside.

      • I basically named most of the ones on my comment that were in and doing B Movie during that era and of course the only ones on this list were Roy Rogers and Hoppy whom had their own TV shows. When people like slo joe (not you Slow Joe) and others want LEO’S to take the leg shot, the TAH comments here usually say that they watch too many westerns so that was Why I named just a few B Western stars. When I had to qualify for NYS and even before NYS made us qualify to carry a handgun, it was center of mass within an 8.5 X 11 area (sheet of paper)A leg shot won’t stop someone from shooting back at you unless it hits the femur artery and a fast bleed out like it did to my late uncle who was opening his apt. door with his belly gun and he had an AD. Lived in Flatbush Brooklyn and didn’t want to move after the demographics changed along with the crime rate. He was mugged around 11 times. new york daily news (its a rag now) at the time had the article about the muggings and I don’t have it anymore. Uncle Harry (Cavalry)Supported Black Jack Pershing down Mexico way and went to France during WW1.

    • akpual says:

      Don’t forget Gene Wilder.

    • Hack Stone says:

      Or you can ask Kyle Rittenhouse, he sure knows how to disarm someone.

  4. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Joe Biden always has been and always will be full of stupid and someone else’s puppet!

  5. Anonymous says:

    Hey, maybe lawmen should shoot the gun out of crooks’ hands like in the movies, too!

    • Hack Stone says:

      No, Law Enforcement Officers should be issued huge magnets. When the suspect brandishes a firearm or knife, they turn the magnet on, and science takes over. The suspect is immediately and safely disarmed with no harm to either party. Unless the suspect is a Millennial, then there may be unintended consequences with all of the metal decorations piercing their face.

      • rgr769 says:

        Ooh, Science! It always furnishes the best solution to any problem. Of course, we’ll need a discussion on how big and heavy the battery pack will need to be and the range of the magnet. Which, I am thinking has to be more than 21 feet. Hondo should have the solution worked out by tomorrow.

      • Wireman611 says:

        Their Face?? A lot of them have piercings in other places that would cause extreme and permanent damage that might cause them to not want to reproduce. on second thought go right ahead.

  6. Anonymous. The B western Guys you mentioned are up on my first comment, 12:00 PM. Those were the real deal during the B Western era.

  7. The Other Whitey says:

    As always, Trump’s best campaign ad material comes from Creepy Joe flapping his cockholster uncensored.

  8. Andy11M says:

    Again, Dims with no understanding of how to deal with armed violent people. My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I seem to remember a passage from the book “Inside Delta” where some members of Mr Peanuts staff met with the Delta boys as they were training up for the hostage rescue in Iran and one of them, I forget who, was horrified when they explained the “two to the chest one to the head” technique they would use to neutralize the hostage takers. Supposedly they asked why they couldn’t just shoot them in the arm to get them to drop their gun.

  9. OWB says:

    For de-escalation to work you need a willing participant. Or at least someone willing to listen to reason and react appropriately. It is were so easy and effective, it would have worked on the screeching harpy lefties by now.

    It just doesn’t always work.

  10. Hack Stone says:

    Hack Stone assumes that Candidate Biden was referring to this incident when he said the Police should have mental health people on hand to deescalate the situation. This guy didn’t look like he wanted to talk.

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/lancaster-cop-wont-be-charged-with-shooting-knife-wielding-man/

  11. rgr769 says:

    Remember this self-defense firearms advice comes from the guy that said the only gun a person or family should have is a double-barreled shotgun. And if one is threatened by a potential home invasion or burglar, the proper homeowner move is to shoot two shots blindly off your back porch. It is just as stoopid a move as thinking you can successfully disarm a perp by shooting the gun out of his hand a’la TV Westerns.

    Having attended our local police department’s eleven week course for citizen volunteers, I can affirm that LEO’s are taught to shoot center of mass until the threat is eliminated. To do otherwise will result in many more officers ending up in the ER or the morgue.

  12. 5JC says:

    Police are not trained to shoot people in the leg but they could be. Or better yet a Bat-a-rang. One could pull it off their utility belt and hurl it at the masked jewel thief Corn-pop as he tries to make his getaway. If you miss it comes right back to you for another shot. Or a grappling hook. A grappling hook on the Jimmy will stop a bad guy in his tracks every time.

  13. AW1Ed says:

    Ex and I exchanged some ideas on the subject yesterday evening. I have the right to defend myself and others from grievous bodily harm or death, and to do what is necessary to stop the threat. Aside from the fact Joe is FOS, I have read where a zealous prosecutor may charge one with intentional maiming if it can be proved specific body parts were targeted.
    I have been asked, in all seriousness, why one simply doesn’t shoot the firearm from the bad guy’s hand- my immediate reply was asking if that person had ever actually handled a firearm.
    The answer was no, of course.

    • penguinman000 says:

      Here in VA the charge would be malicious wounding, what they charged Officer Durocher with.

      https://www.wavy.com/news/local-news/portsmouth/portsmouth-officer-involved-shooting-trial-to-begin-monday/

      Bad guy was caught in the act of committing burglary while armed. Took off running toward other officers who probably didn’t know he was there. Officer Durocher ventilated the turd. Weapon was recovered off the turd and the officer’s body cam recorded everything. Turd was found guilty at trial and sentenced to 6 years.

      Officer Durocher is still facing charges for malicious wounding (5-20 years) and use of a firearm in commission of a felony (3 years minimum).

      Want to guess what the political bent is for the city of Portsmouth?

  14. Fjardeson says:

    Shooting someone in the leg is often fatal. Hit either one of those big descending aortal arteries and they’ll bleed out in literally seconds.

  15. Ex-PH2 says:

    So it’s okay for criminals to rob/steal, break & enter and damage, shoot other people for any reason or none at all, destroy property of others, and generally run roughshod over everyone they see, but cops can’t do their jobs any more because LIABILITY LAWS, and we can’t defend ourselves against attacks because the Bad Guy may get hurt.

    It is time all those post-1945 laws about that kind of thing were repealed and we just start over.

    And I thought “Twilight Zone” was fiction….

  16. Hack Stone says:

    Joe Biden just may be right. This guy took a shot to a lower extremity, and it took him out of the fight.

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