Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla; female pretender pilot

| November 5, 2012

Meet Chelle Lynne Anderson-Tesla who is currently a major in the Civil Air Patrol in Virginia and assigned to HQ, VA Wing as Director of Aerospace Education. She got that job because she represented herself as combat-wounded Army Aviation Captain, and a UH-60 Blackhawk pilot. Of course, she’s here on TAH, so you already know that none of that is true.

She was a PFC Air Traffic Controller for less than two years;

I don’t know how she got a Good Conduct Medal with less than 3 years service, but there it is.

She claims that she earned a Purple Heart when her Blackhawk was shot down in Iraq and, of course, because of that incident she claims she suffers from TBI and PTS. but, as her records show, she’s never been to Iraq;

She also claims that she had enlisted time before she went to OCS. So, I thought I’d give her time to prove that to her unit who has confronted her with this information, in case the NPRC’s records were deficient. But I’ve just heard that she’s resigning from CAP “because of all of the politics” which means there won’t be any proof forthcoming. So mainly, this post is to prevent her from pulling the same scam in another state when it hits the search engines.

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NHSparky

Whirlwind. Reap. Shit. Happens.

Bostonian0311
EdUSMCleg

Well, not bad but wish the report was even more in-depth.

Bostonian0311

@Ed: I would have liked to see the reporter contact CAP Public Affairs and ask them for a statement. Why did they refuse to conduct a proper IG investigation per CAP regs? Why is she still admin of an official Virginia CAP facebook account? Why did they ignore the issue when the DD-214’s were first sent to them and she was still in CAP?

Virtual Insanity

Heh. Truth bat / head…some assembly required.

Or, my favorite phrase from awhile ago: “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.”

EdUSMCleg

@304. Something tells me that the person (Quinn) who was in charge of investigating her may be more than just a friend…

Combat Historian

COL Goode, COL Kelley, and SGM Gabbard were colleagues of mine at MNF-I Command Group at Camp Victory. All three were killed in action on 20 Jan 07 when the ring-route UH-60 they and others were riding in was shot down by an AQI AAA ambush south of Baquebah near the MND-North/MND-Baghdad divisional boundary; a total of 13 coalition personnel were killed on that chopper that day. They all earned the Purple Heart for their sacrifice. For this fat piece of shit to put on that PH ribbon on her uniform and pretend she is a wounded war hero is to me an obscenity beyond words and description. May this bitch enjoy and wallow in her new infamy…

C2/2000AF

#294 There are a lot of phonies outside the Killeen area who enjoy embellishing their careers. Must be something in the water. Knew 3 females who had problems telling the truth, all air force.

trackback

[…] the lies about her Purple Heart and her brain injury from a helicopter crash in Iraq. Of course, we’d already proven that was a lie. We contacted the reporter, Surae Chinn, at WUSA9 in DC and told her about how she had been duped. […]

C2/2000AF

I guess its only a matter of time before she deletes her account and starts over somewhere else. Quinn guy will probably make a statement denouncing her or possibly defending her. She hasnt started scrubbing facebook yet.

EdUSMCleg

Probably busy getting spanked…

ArmyVet

@Ed: I would have liked to see the reporter contact CAP Public Affairs and ask them for a statement. Why did they refuse to conduct a proper IG investigation per CAP regs? Why is she still admin of an official Virginia CAP facebook account? Why did they ignore the issue when the DD-214?s were first sent to them and she was still in CAP?

I fully agree. How about a follow up to the TV story? The CAP will continue to protect this fraud if they are not held accountable. They have a youth program. The youth look up to these leaders (posers) in the Virginia Group.

EdUSMCleg

@312: Again, I honestly believe Quinn has a thing for her. He is the one who was supposed to investigate but instead took her side on it. If anything, CAP should investigate both of them.

C2/2000AF

@Armyvet. I didnt read all the comments. But didnt she resign from the CAP? Or is she still around under volunteer status?

EdUSMCleg

She resigned, I believe. Hard to tell, honestly. So many lies out there.

ArmyVet

@313: Again, I honestly believe Quinn has a thing for her. He is the one who was supposed to investigate but instead took her side on it. If anything, CAP should investigate both of them.

According to a comrade in the CAP that I knew as a youth, Tesla is still in the CAP in good standing. She was never terminated, punished or resigned. She is currently an active member on the Virginia HQ Staff and a staff member of some Winchester Group. The Virginia Wing continues to protect and support her.

Kick them both out. Hell, kick them all out that protect her. They are bad examples to mentor to the youth.

EdUSMCleg

If that is true than they have serious issues.

bemused bystander

very interesting… or more to be “bemused” about! IF you know that there are many others ready and waiting to rat out a lie, WHY do a major news channel interview for a BIG city, with plenty of exposure, and say the lies that have already got you in trouble?? Must be sheer stupidity?
She also claimed to have been so wronged by a “ex” who was convicted of rape at Ft Hood. But, have spent the better part of an evening searching online for anything– any news story about that… with NO results. Thinking, “what are the odds” that an ARMY officer can be charged and convicted of raping a disabled person, and there is NO news on it. Is it possible to keep something like that totally under wraps? Then the guy later goes on to work in counseling, with a criminal record? But supposedly does not have to report it in the new state he moved to? So, just another aspect of lies this person has spouted with NO backing… Sad, sad specimen.
I may be dating myself.. but remember the sketch Jon Lovitz used to do on SNL? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYNBwCEeH4

EdUSMCleg

Is she single now or do we have a husband locked on? Those profiles on the spanking sites and BDSM sites are still active.

Capt Poseur Buster

#318 & 313: ex-husband is at Fort Lee, I believe. Army officer, medical corps or medical service corps. Admin type. Last name “Anderson” I think any abuse or rape claims fall into the “whole cloth” category.

#316: According to well-placed sources (not me, I’m not a member of CAP), she’s not on the membership rolls AT ALL. Her membership lapsed in Feb of 2013 and she does not currently show up as a member in the National HQ personnel system.

For what its worth, I do believe she’s been “flagged” if she attempts to rejoin. That requires additional scrutiny, at the very least, if a flagged member attempts to renew within the “grace period” or rejoin after the grace period..

ArmyVet

#320: How about a public statement from the CAP to end the rumors? Some say she is in, some say she is not and some say they have no idea. I have no idea. Why is the Virginia HQ still protecting her if she is supposedly not in the CAP? It makes no sense.

C2/2000AF

Guessing from some of her post not too long ago and pictures. She is probably single

thebronze

Here’s the facebook conversation I had with Quinn last night. It sheds some light on things: 9:56pm James Quinn All I want is credible evidence. And I don’t believe that you have any. If you do, I’ll support you. 10:01pm thebronze Whatever. The evidence is there, apparently you choose not to look at it. Tesla (or whatever her real name is) has had plenty of opportunities to refute the evidence that’s there, she chose not to. So she’s obviously guilty. All she has to do is show her DD-214 to verify her service. “This Ain’t Hell” has a copy of her stuff from the DOD, displayed for ALL to see. If you didn’t see it, you’re not a very good investigator. 10:02pm James Quinn Maybe I’m not a very good investigator–that’s true. I am curious about one other thing, though. From where I stand, it looks to me that you are engaged in some sort of vendetta against Ms. Tesla. Why? What did she ever do to you? 10:05pm thebronze I’m retired from the ACTUAL US Military and I HATE pieces of shit that claim status that they aren’t entitled to. 10:05pm James Quinn I agree with that. Personally, I’m more of a wannabe. I signed up, but was injured before OTS, so I got a “get out of jail” card. 10:08pm thebronze She served TWO years in the Army (not Ten as she claimed) and was discharged because of her weight. She never deployed to a combat zone and she never received a Purple Heart. She doesn’t have PTSD. She was never a Commissioned Officer in the Army and she was never a UH-60 pilot. How’s THAT for starters? 10:11pm James Quinn Well, actually, some of that is true–and some does not agree with evidence I’ve seen. The records I’ve seen suggest that she did serve two years enlisted, but was then released from her commitment to attend OCS. I don’t have any valid evidence about what may or may not have happened there either way. I’m not sure about the UH-60 part either. I’ve seen some documentation that… Read more »

thebronze

10:18pm thebronze So obviously she showed you proof of all the things that she said? 10:19pm James Quinn Not all of the things, no. That’s why I still have considerable doubts. But some of the things she says are well outside the documentation you have presented too. And I can’t do much without evidence. 10:20pm thebronze You’re a lost case. If she can’t prove something, that means it’s a LIE. 10:21pm James Quinn Ahem. You have heard of the presumption of innocence, haven’t you. It’s only the foundation of most of the U.S. system of justice…. 10:22pm thebronze It’s VERY easy for someone that’s been in the military in the last ten plus years to get copies of ALL of their military records. If she can’t provide them to you SHE’S LYING. Bro, I used to be a police officer, so don’t even start with that BS. The burden of proof is on HER to prove that she’s done what she said she’s done. 10:23pm James Quinn Nope. Burden of proof is on the accuser. You may have been a police officer, but you’re obviously not a lawyer. And for me, I can’t do much at all with what I’ve got. Either way. 10:23pm thebronze She made the claim, it’s on HER to prove they’re true. Like I said, you’re a lost case. I’m done discussing this with you. You obviously didn’t do a thorough investigation. 10:26pm James Quinn I don’t know. She has voluntarily resigned from CAP–effective several months ago. I disagreed with her decision and I told her so…for many of the reasons you mentioned. If she had given me copies of her DD-214s, I would have happily gone to bat for her. As it is, from my perspective the matter is unproven. 10:27pm thebronze You’re still going to bat for her. You made her an admin on your page. Good luck, you’ll need it. 10:31pm James Quinn You get your exercise leaping to conclusions. She–when she was still a CAP member–created the page. I don’t know if she’s still an admin, but if she is, I’ll make… Read more »

PowerPoint Ranger

If he hasn’t blocked you, ask him if he thinks The Pentagon has a vindictive grudge against her, and verified Jonn’s presentation of her DD-214

PowerPoint Ranger

Because of that grudge.

thebronze

He hasn’t replied to my mocking as of late…

2/17 Air Cav

Very nice work, thebronze.

Quinn’s saying that he may not be a very good investigator is like saying the Titanic ran into a little trouble on its maiden voyage. If Anderson was an pretender, then Quinn was her enabler. His insistence on using the criminal standard of proof, burden of proof, and select criminal procedure requirements are ALL mistaken. Worse than all of that, however, is his self-delusion that his perspective and approach were proper and correct when they were anything but that. Reporter Chinn was tricked in walking over the cliff. Quinn willingly swan dived from it.

Local Blue Suiter

I’m thinking Mr. Q got a “benefit” or two from Ms. Tesla. Perhaps he responded to one of her dominatrix posts. Chubby guy, chubby girl – PERFECT.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

“Second, I have no interest in either defending Ms. Tesla or in attacking her. I am an investigator. I am charged with finding out the truth. If you have evidence–either way, I am interested in hearing it. And–again, either way–I will present all of the evidence to my CAP and USAF superiors.”

Perhaps you should check in with the Pentagon since you are affiliated. That’s usually a great starting point for a military investigator who is trying to discover if a liar has managed to become involed in the investigator’s CAP program….WUSA9 was able to get in touch with someone at the Pentagon in less than 24 hours and they’re not even in the military. I suspect with all your connections you could get in touch with the Pentagon in minutes Mr. Investigator.

What say you now James? Still think there is nothing of value in your investigation? How about you start with the framed Purple Heart certificate in her apartment that made the news, how about her claims of ten years of service when less than 2 are on record.

We will be anxiously awaiting the results of your “investigation” James….those results will tell us all about you as well as Ms. Tesla.

OWB

He probably doesn’t really want to explain what he means by the claim that he is an “investigator!” Using the standard that he insists should be used on the CAP pet whale, it is not his responsibility to prove that he is what he claims but ours to prove that he is not.

Yeah, like that is how it works out here in the real world.

ArmyVet

#324: James Quinn, do the right thing and join your friend with a resignation. You are not capable of leading anyone, nor do you have any respect for wounded vets. Your actions have brought dishonor to the CAP, the military and the Vets.

Hondo

I’m guessing James Quinn has a poor grasp of how a military investigation is conducted. Here’s an extract from AR 15-6, the Army Reg which governs investigations by individual IOs and/or Boards of Officers. I assume the CAP as an analogous regulation. I have added emphasis where I thought it was apropos.

“3–7. Rules of evidence and proof of facts
a. General. Proceedings under this regulation are administrative, not judicial. Therefore, an investigating officer or board of officers is not bound by the rules of evidence for trials by courts–martial or for court proceedings generally. Accordingly, subject only to the provisions of c below, anything that in the minds of reasonable persons is relevant and material to an issue may be accepted as evidence. For example, medical records, counseling statements, police reports, and other records may be considered regardless of whether the preparer of the record is available to give a statement or testify in person. All evidence will be given such weight as circumstances warrant. (See para 3–5 as to who decides whether to accept evidence.)”

http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/r15_6.pdf

Bottom line, Quinn: an investigation ain’t a courts-martial, and the “beyond reasonable doubt” standard is NOT appropriate. As a single individual acting as an IO, you (1) gather evidence, (2) evaluate the evidence, (3) notify the respondent (if any), (4) give that respondent (if any) a chance to respond, (5) consider that response (if any) – then (6) make your conclusion as to what happened and (7) advise the appointing authority of that conclusion and your rationale for arriving at that conclusion.

Lack of a plausible response by the respondent is something that an IO indeed considers in arriving at his/her conclusion. An IO who ignores evidence of any type is negligent and is not doing their job.

Just sayin

Maybe Quinn is her lover… or her “dom”… maybe?

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

One change to my post # 195:

“If I was the last male human on earth (who loved all things BDSM and fat) and she (the verified poser) was the last female human on earth …

I would rather drag my balls (THAT ARE ON FIRE BECAUSE THEY WERE SUBMERGED IN MOGAS FOR A WEEKEND AND IGNITED BY WAY OF A VINTAGE ZIPPO FROM WWII) across 5 miles of broken glass in the opposite direction to stay clear of her.”

Any questions?

Thanks for reading my update to previous post!

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Another open blog bite to Jimmy Boy James “Very Small Penis” Quinn

You say to The Bronze: “A piece of advice, though. As a former cop, you’ll understand that there are lines you’d best not cross. And you’re pretty darn close to them… But if you have evidence you want to present, you know where to find me.”

I say: YOU ARE A PUNK.

I am a former FED LEO … who still works in the business. You and your type make me and my type sick. You would not last a NY minute in a NYC Bar and you most certainly are not a member of the NYS BAR.

Therefore, KMRIA!

One other thing, your WARNING above (or threat in some jurisdictions) was amature at best.

michelle tesla

all,

my name is michelle tesla. this has nothing to do with cap or james. back off of them. this is my problem. i lied. deal with me. I am da liar they don’t know anything. it is time to take my fat ass to bed I will talk to you tomorrow. nite.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

@ 337 … I do not believe you.

Just sayin

@337 yeah, that’s the ticket

OldSargeUSAR

@337 – Yeah, you do that, and when you roll over, tell Jimmy Jim James Jimbo, the Fact checker, the Truth Seeker, that he wouldn’t know the Truth if it walked up and hit him in the mouth… Remember, “There is no cure for stupid. Stupid is forever”. Applies to both you morons.

Jerks

ItAllFades

I’m going to assume that’s not the real fat ass Tesla.

thebronze

FAT = Fat Ass Tesla

I like it.

Hondo

For what it’s worth: the comment from the individual posting as “michelle tesla” above originated from the same IP that was used by the individual commenting as “ChosenOne” above (along with one anonymous comment). The IP is located in an area consistent with this possibly being Tesla.

You Disgust Me

I feel so bad for her kid.

She claims he has autism. I’ve seen several videos of him (her online footprint is quite large), and as a physician, I think I would disagree. Shame on her for wanting to slap a label on her kid to compensate for her terrible parenting. He will be lucky if he’s not permanently screwed up from his pathological mother.

Passerby

Let me say a few things here.
As stated earlier, I was a CAP member from the VA Wing. While I’m now inactive, CAP is something that I was proud of and still regard highly. While I do not consider VAWG’s silence on this as being wholly appealing, I will still defend the organization’s reputation, for all that it has done, still does, and will hopefully do in the future. A person such as Tesla should by no means be the reason to dissolve CAP, and I think that this situation is a poor means by which to judge the whole organization.
I don’t think Quinn is really doing the right thing by defending Tesla. However, if he really is the investigator of this situation from VAWG, then he has to maintainsome sense of objective analysis in his work. This website does have some damning evidence, but he isn’t wrong in not letting this one source be the basis of his judgement. If he’s worth his salt as a wing officer (and he damn well better be), he’ll come to the same conclusions as pointed out here, and she and this affair will be handled accordingly.
I am realistic about this. I realize that she’s got some friends in high enough places and she knows how to get (and keep) some men’s attention. But I’ve got enough faith to believe that she’ll be dealt with properly and that this situation will end in everyone’s favor.

2/17 Air Cav

@345. “This website does have some damning evidence, but he isn’t wrong in not letting this one source be the basis of his judgement.” Huh? Have you always suffered from a reading comprehension deficiency or is it a late development? Although reasonable suspicions were raised here about Air Marshal Spanky, the conclusive evidence came from the United States government, in response to a Freedom of Information Act Request. If Jimmah had wanted to learn the truth, the same source was available to him.

Passerby

Right, FOIA requests coming from and responded to two outside sources.
To us, it’s an open and shut case. Even I don’t have a reason to believe that there’s an ounce of truth to her claims. I hope this solidly ends her involvement with CAP, that the organization learns something from this, and that none of us hears from her pathetic ass again.
But if there is any kind of investigation going on, it’s going to have to do its own digging, including getting verified FOIA documents. Even if Quinn gets the exact same paperwork TAH and the news station got, what matters is that he has it in his own hands.
I’m not saying this to be disrespectful or a contrary pain in the ass, and I’m really glad that this site (and Mr. Lilyea) brought the issue to light and kept on this story. But if Quinn/CAP were to make a judgement based solely on outside sources, I’d hardly call that a fair or decent investigation.

Hondo

Passerby: um, not exactly. See the extract from AR 15-6 regarding what an IO can consider I provided in comment 333. I’m sure the CAP uses similar procedures and standards for internal investigations.

Short version: a military officer acting as IO is not restricted to sworn testimony or held to the standards of a court-martial regarding admissibility of evidence. He/she can (and should) consider all available evidence, giving each item the weight he/she deems appropriate.

I’d say that the combination of (1) a publicly posted extract from service records, (2) the pertinent points of which have been publicly confirmed by the Pentagon, plus (3) an admission by the target of the investigation that she has no records to disprove the Pentagon’s claims, are collectively quite persuasive. In fact, I’d say that that combination is sufficient to prove the individual a liar – as well as sufficient for her commander to take appropriate action.

No, that’s not sufficient evidence for a courts-martial conviction. But they’re damn sure sufficient for administrative action – like an administrative separation.

OWB

The point here is that the CAP had just as much time to develop sources as did anyone outside the organization. They should have had the information first, not just now be wondering how best to acquire it without looking like the utter fools that they are.