Dallas Wittgenfeld – A Recap

| July 7, 2012

There’s been a lot of rambling and invective on the recent Wittgenfeld threads at TAH (here and here).  As a result, it’s been easy to lose track of precisely what claims our “friend” Wittgenfeld actually has and has not made – and which of those claims are valid.  Since he’s now entered in the Ballduster McSoulpatch Memorial Stolen Valor Tournament, it’s probably best to have that info immediately available.  So I thought I’d take a shot at summarizing Wittgenfeld’s claims and their status.

If anyone finds what they feel to be an error in the information below, please let me know and I’ll correct it – provided I agree, of course.  (And if you’re reading this, Wittgenfeld, the only way I’ll accept corrections from you is if they’re accompanied with paperwork you haven’t provided previously.  Like a copy of your CIB orders, for example.)

The Legitimate Claims

1.  Wittgenfeld claims to have served on active duty with the US Army.  That claim is backed by his DD214 and his FOIA report.  He served on active duty from Sep 1968 to July 1972.

2.  He claims to be a Vietnam Veteran.   This claim appears valid.  Per the assignments section of his FOIA report, he served in-country from Aug 1969 to Aug 1970.

3.  Wittgenfeld claims to have seen combat in Vietnam.  This claim appears accurate.  Per the assignments section of his FOIA report, Wittgenfeld saw combat in Vietnam with 2 different units.  The first was D Co 151st Inf (Ranger) – which was reflagged D Co 75th  Inf (Ranger) while Wittgenfeld was assigned to the unit (Aug 1969 to Apr 1970).  The second was HQ 2nd  Field Force Vietnam (HQ II FFORCEV) from Apr 1970 to Aug 1970.

4.  Wittgenfeld claims to have an Air Medal for his service in Vietnam.  This claim appears accurate.  He was awarded one Air Medal, NOT for Valor, while assigned to HQ II FFORCEV.  (The orders for this Air Medal have been removed from their former location on-line.  However, I personally reviewed these orders prior to their removal from their former location on-line; they appeared legitimate.  I will attempt to coordinate with the owner of the site where they were formerly posted to have them re-posted.)

5.  Wittgenfeld claims he has two Purple Hearts.  This claim appears accurate.  He was awarded  two Purple Hearts while assigned to HQ II FFORCEV.

6.  Wittgenfeld claims to have been awarded the Army Commendation Medal with V Device (ARCOM w/V).  That claim appears accurate.  Per his DD214 and FOIA Report, he was awarded the ARCOM w/V, apparently while assigned to D Co 151st Inf (Ranger).

7.  Wittgenfeld claims to be Airborne.  That claim appears accurate.  Per his DD214 and FOIA report, Wittgenfeld is Airborne qualified.

8.  Wittgenfeld claims to have been a drill instructor.  That claim appears accurate.  After his return from Vietnam, per the assignments section of his FOIA report he served as a Drill Instructor (Oct 1970 – Jul 1972).

9.  Per his DD214, Wittgenfeld received an honorable discharge.

10.  Based on new information brought to my attention on 9 October 2012, it appears that Wittgenfeld’s CIB is legitimate as opposed to questionable.  Apparently US Army Vietnam (USARV) –  in an exception to Department of the Army regulation and policy of the day – authorized 05B RTOs serving with infantry units whose primary duties were to accompany infantry units on tactical operations to be awarded the CIB.  While I have not yet personally located and verified the full text of the USARV exception, the exception is unambiguously referenced in a decision of the Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR).  The ABCMR doesn’t tend to get things wrong.

OK, so much for the “good”.  Now for the “bad” and the “ugly”.  And, finally, my attempt to make sense of it all.

The Questionable Claims

1.  Wittgenfeld claims to have a CIB.  This claim is questionable.  In fact, Wittgenfeld’s FOIA report and DD214 both indicate he has a CIB.  However, the assignments section of his  FOIA report indicates he never served in combat as (1) an infantry unit commander, (2) a formally-assigned advisor to RVN forces, or (3) as an infantry soldier (all his assignments in Vietnam were Radio Operator assignments in his primary MOS of 05B).  His receipt of the CIB is thus highly questionable, as it appears to be invalid under the regulations of the day (para 96.a., AR 672-5-1, May 1961, w/amendments).  Yes, it’s in his records.  Whether it’s legitimate or not is another question. 

This claim is no longer regarded as questionable.  As noted above, Wittgenfeld apparently does legitimately rate the CIB under a US Army -Vietnam exception to DA regulations.

2.  Wittgenfeld claims to be, and and promotes himself as, a former “Airborne Ranger”.  This claim is arguably true, but – like Roger Maris’ single-season home run record – also comes with a rather large asterisk.   Per his FOIA report and the assignments section of same, Wittgenfeld  was an Airborne-qualified soldier assigned as a Radio Operator to a Ranger Unit in Vietnam.  However, per those same documents Wittgenfeld did not attend Ranger School, is not Ranger qualified, and therefore does not rate the Ranger Tab.   Use your own judgement as to whether you accept this claim by Wittgenfeld as valid.   I personally don’t buy it – Ranger School has existed in one form or another since 1950, and Wittgenfeld served from 1968-1972 – but I appear to be in the minority on this issue and could well be wrong.

3.  Wittgenfeld also claims (by wearing the awards publicly) that he served with a unit during a period for which it was awarded the  Presidential Unit Citation (PUC), Valorous Unit Award (VUA), and Meritorious Unit Award (MUA).  This claim is questionable if not outright false.  I’ve checked the official Army listing of unit awards; none of Wittgenfelds units in Vietnam seem to be listed there – so none of them appear to have ever been awarded a PUC, VUA, or MUA. That means Wittgenfeld almost certainly isn’t authorized these unit awards for permanent wear – and thus shouldn’t be wearing them now. (His Vietnamese Unit Awards are probably legit; many if not most US Army units deployed to Vietnam received one or both of those.)

4.  Wittgenfeld has also made claims of “skydiving in Vietnam to entertain the orphans”.  Yeah, right.  Sorry, but I’m gonna need independent verification from a disinterested party before I’ll buy that one.  I’m calling this claim at best questionable if not an outright whopper of a lie.

The Bogus Claims

1.   Wittgenfeld was cited multiple times in the past in published articles as having received a “Bronze Star for Valor”.  There’s really only one place those reporters would have gotten that info:  from Wittgenfeld himself, either by interviewing him personally or from written material provided by him.  Follow this link for one example of such a false claim.  Per Wittgenfeld’s DD214 and FOIA report, these claims are bogus – and IMO, so is Wittgenfeld’s  current claim that he had no influence over what those reporters wrote about him in the past.  The fact that there are several other similar articles near the end of  the web page linked here IMO effectively disproves Wittgenfeld’s claims of innocence in this area.  Could one reporter “screw the pooch” and get his decorations wrong?  Yes.  Several, all making the same identical mistake?  Uh, no, I don’t think so.  I’m calling this claim, and Wittgenfeld’s oblique denial that he bears any responsibility for the misinformation those stories, bogus.

2.  Wittgenfeld also apparently hoodwinked the Special Forces Association into admitting him by reputedly making false claims of serving as an advisor to the “Royal Thai Army” and of being temporarily attached to the 11th Special Forces Group.  These claims also appear to be bogus.  No such assignments are documented in the assignments section of Wittgenfeld’s FOIA report.  Rather, Wittgenfeld’s Purple Heart orders show him assigned to “RTAVF-SLS”.  I’m reasonably certain this designation stands for “Royal Thailand Army Vietnam Forces – Staff (or maybe Strategic) Liaison Section”.  His duty position there was 05B – Radio Operator (SLS).  Providing comm support while assigned to a liaison team ain’t the same thing as advisory duty.

3.  Wittgenfeld’s also made claims of being “Airborne Ranger Special Forces”, too.  Those claims are also bogus – there are no SF assignments in his record whatsoever.  Wittgenfeld’s claims of “hanging out” with the 11th SF while on “compassionate leave” don’t cut it – that’s neither formal assignment nor attachment, and I’ve seen nothing documenting that it even happened at all.  Ditto his claims of being a Ranger Advisor to the Royal Thai Army (serving on a liaison team ain’t the same thing).  Bottom line:  Wittgenfeld never served with SF, either in CONUS or in Combat.  He was never Special Forces, nor is he authorized to wear the Green Beret – period.  Even if he did con his way into the Special Forces Association.

4.  Finally, Wittgenfeld claims to have been a “LRRP” or “LRP” in Vietnam.  This claim is bogus.  Wittgenfeld was never a “LRP” or “LRRP” in Vietnam.  His first unit there – D Co 151st  Infantry – was indeed originally designated as a Long Range Patrol (LRP) unit.  But that designation changed about 6 months before Wittgenfeld ever arrived.  D Co 151st Infantry’s status and designation was changed in Feb 1969 from LRP  to Ranger.  Wittgenfeld arrived in Vietnam in Aug 1969, so he never served with a LRP unit in Vietnam – and he absolutely did not serve with the 101st  as a LRRP, as he’s previously implied.  Wittgenfeld served as an RTO while assigned to a Ranger unit.  He never served in a LRP or LRRP unit.

The Asshattery

Other than the above, Wittgenfeld’s dealings with others are textbook examples of how to make enemies and influence people the wrong way.  Read the comments by “LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41” starting here.  Yes, that really is Wittgenfeld playing with the shift key like a teenage girl (or a spastic) and using that asinine screen name.  And after reading those comments, you can probably decide for yourself whether his tournament nickname of “Flying Assclown” is apropos.

His abuse of the Army uniform and his disrespectful attitude towards other veterans, veterans’ supporters, and others in general are reprehensible.  His narcissism is obvious in his staged photos, his deeds, and his words.  He is also one of very few people I’ve ever even heard of to get arrested for flying a plane while intoxicated (2nd part of article here).  And when you read Wittgenfeld’s own words, it’s easy to conclude that he’s also a racist.

In short:  he’s a real piece of work.  He’s definitely a legend in his own mind, and obviously thinks he deserves to be famous.

The rest of the world?  Either “deserves to be infamous” or “Dallas Who?” is probably more a accurate description of how the rest of the world feels about Wittgenfeld.

Reconstruction of Events, AKA Reality

Here’s my reconstruction of what likely actually happened.  I could be wrong, and if I’m presented documentary evidence I am, I’ll revise this.

D Co 151st Infantry (Long Range Patrol) was an Indiana National Guard unit.  It was one of the few Army Reserve Component (USAR and ARNG) units mobilized and sent to Vietnam, and was the only National Guard Infantry unit so mobilized and deployed.  This unit was mobilized in April or early May 1968, departed Indiana in mid-May for extensive pre-deployment training at Fort Benning, and deployed to Vietnam in December 1968. The unit was assigned to II FFORCEV.   It was redesignated D Co 151st Infantry (Ranger) in Feb 1969.

Per Wittgenfeld’s FOIA, Wittgenfeld was not originally a member of D Co 151st Infantry –  he enlisted after D Co 151st Infantry had departed for pre-deployment training.  The assignments section of his FOIA shows Wittgenfeld began active duty in September 1968; attended basic training at Fort Campbell; Leaders Prep and 05B AIT at Fort Knox; Airborne School at Fort Benning;  and then was assigned to the 82nd Airborne at Fort Bragg, arriving in April 1969.  He served as an 05B – Radio Operator with the 82nd Airborne for approx 3 months, then ended up on orders for Vietnam.  He arrived in Vietnam in late August 1969 and was assigned to D Co 151st Infantry (Ranger) shortly thereafter.

Wittgenfeld was thus never assigned to D Co 151st Infantry while it was designated a “Long Range Patrol” unit, arriving approx 6 months after the unit had been redesignated “Ranger”.   He was most likely either an individual replacement or Regular Army cadre assigned to that unit because of the pending reflagging of that unit as D Co 75th Infantry (Ranger), which occurred in November 1969 and was almost certainly due to the end of the period of  mobilization of D Co 151st Infantry.  Wittgenfeld thus served in D Co 151st Infantry (Ranger) for 2 1/2 to 3 months, and then continued to serve with D Co 75th Infantry (Ranger) after his unit was reflagged.  While assigned to D Co 151st Infantry (Ranger), Wittgenfeld apparently received an ARCOM w/V.  Per his official records, his assignment with both units was as an 05B – IS Radio Operator.

Wittgenfeld’s reflagged unit of assignment, now D Co 75th Infantry (Ranger) continued as a part of  II FFORCEV until April 1970.  At that time, D Co 75th Infantry (Ranger)  stood down.  As a Active Duty  soldier on a 1-year tour, Wittgenfeld still had several months remaining in-country.  He was then transferred to HQ FFORCEV for the remainder of his time in-country.

Wittgenfeld appears to have been assigned to a HQ II FFORCEV Staff/Strategic Liaison Team (RTAVF-SLS) with the mission of providing II FFORCEV liaision between HQ II FFORCEV and a subordinate Royal Thai Army unit HQ (the Royal Thai Army Vietnam Forces were subordinate to II FFORCEV).  Wittgenfeld’s duty assignment was 05B – Radio Operator (SLS); his duties doubtless consisted providing long-range comm support for the liaison team, most likely often relating to fire support provided by US artillery to Royal Thai Forces.  This is in no way, shape, form, or fashion “duty as a Ranger advisor to Royal Thai Army Rangers”.   While assigned to this liaison team, Wittgenfeld was wounded twice and received an Air Medal.  He served with II FFORCEV for less than 4 months – from April to Aug 1970.  Approx 10 days before Wittgenfeld’s one-year in country anniversary, he departed Vietnam for CONUS.

After departing for CONUS, Wittgenfeld took about 45 days combined leave and travel time.  He arrived at Fort Knox, KY, in early Oct 1970.  He served as a Drill Instructor at Fort Knox until his ETS in July 1972.

Wittgenfeld served honorably in dangerous and demanding assignments in Vietnam.  He received both combat decorations and wounds.  But was never “Special Forces”, a “Ranger Advisor”, a “LRRP”, or a “LRP”.  He does not have the Ranger Tab.  He was an Airborne-qualified RTO assigned to a Ranger unit for about 8 months, then was assigned as a radio operator for a liaison team from HQ II FFORCEV to a subordinate Royal Thai Army unit HQ for a bit less than 4 months.  That’s all.

Coda

Wittgenfeld’s a rather sad case, actually.  His military service was honorable, and based on what I’ve seen his claim of PTSD could well be legitimate.  IMO he definitely seems to have operator headspace and timing issues.

But having issues is no excuse to be a liar and a out-of-control asshat.  And IMO Wittgenfeld is both of those many times over.

Author Note:  The original article castigated Wittgenfeld for falsely claiming to be an “Airborne Ranger” even though he does not have a Ranger Tab.  However, the consensus of initial comments appears to be that service with a Ranger unit vice qualifying for the Ranger Tab entitles one to call himself a “Ranger” permanently.  I’ve thus removed those portions of the original article and/or reworded them appropriately.

Jonn added: Here’s another picture I have of Wittgenfeld’s uniform with some SF beret flash on his pocket with the SF DUI stuck to it;

ADDED: Kevin writes to tell us that the SF thingie on his pocket is the SF Association’s thing. The SF Association told us that Wittgenfeld wouldn’t be a member these days because he’s been grandfathered from a time before they required documentation and he has none on file.

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OWB

Guess we’ve ignored him too long…

Ex-PH2

Does Wittlessgelding not know that he’s incriminated himself by using threats and profanity on this blog?

Jonn Lilyea

Well, yeah, and he’s contacted TSO’s and my employers trying to get us fired with his incessant whining. I guess that’s not stalking. He is quite possibly the worst stalker I’ve ever had since he doesn’t even know in which state he should stalk me. And I guess “I will…visit Ft. Ashby address of this blog” means he’s bringing me cookies and tea.

Like I said before, I put TAH on Google Earth so none of the Stolen Valor cabal would have an excuse for not coming here. I also have all of my contact information in White Pages for the same reason. I’m not the one who is a coward here.

2-17 AirCav

That someone about whom something is written feels coerced, intimidated, or harrassed by the writing is not a measure of any of those things. What’s more, whether one’s panties gets bunched or not is neither here nor there either. The question is whether the writer had the specific intent to coerce, intimidate, or harrass. So, best of luck with the misdemeanor criminal complaint jocko.

JP

Dallass, you do know Ft Ashby is in WEST Virginia, right, fucktard?

Holy shit you’re a fucking moron.

Green Thumb

I cannot believe this turd (old at that) is still news.

When people quit talking about him he will dry up and “poof”, be gone.

Ex-PH2

I have kitchen knives that are sharper than he is.

Scottys Hideaway

Scotty Hughes went to jail recently ? Damn, I didn’t know that. Someone needs to contact Scotty & let me know when this occurs. I would at least like to be present when they arrest me.
BTW dilly Dallas I live in the same state as Jonn Lilyea too. Yep . Just down the road in Spencer Va.. You really did hit the fucktard status now you old fool. dilly Dallas Wittgenfeld , The wanna be LRRP has went off the deep end.
With that being said.. ” Thank you & Welcome home RTO boy Dallas Wittgenfeld ” !

2-17 AirCav

Watch the old business, GT. Some of us who are not card-carrying a-holes qualify.

Ex-PH2

You are a funny, funny guy, Jonn Lilyea.

Green Thumb

@112.

With all due respect, EM, please clarify your statement.

I am curious as to your stance before I make a response.

I believe in your immaturity and ignorance you may have judged this the wrong way.

Standing By…..

Marine_7002

I know why Witless is trying to stir up shit. He’s actually deeply depressed about his piss-poor performance in the Ballduster McSoulpatch Tournament, especially given his energetic efforts at boosting his douchebaggery ratings by repeatedly posting nonsensical bullshit.

Now he’s throwing a temper tantrum.

Get over it, Witless. You’re so lame that couldn’t hang with the likes of Sharkey and Dilberto and Gunny Mailman. We realize that it was a crushing blow for you, so we’ll be magnaminous and help you with some sympathy…you can find it in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

ROS

Told you he should have won the BDMSPSVT.

LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41

Soooo, Hey Lilyea..? When the West Virginia State Police call you on that phone number….. Who will they be discussing your charges with..? Your wife. Your boyfriend. Maybe give me the right number… You too Scotty, we will have a conference call. It is possible for me to serve you all the paperwork myself. Personally. That’s how I like it…

I told you all before…. You and this blog, Scotty’ blog, and the American Legion blog are on report at the highest level of the Veterans’ Administration in Florida. P.T.S.D. Clinical Chief M.D. knows me and you all by first name basis. It is their recommendation to procecute you all. They have the clinical proof of what you people have done for sport. Especially with so many witnesses.

Consider yourselves “ON NOTICE”

Jonn Lilyea

Don’t worry, Dallas, the WV State Police already know about you, and they got a big laugh when I told them about your connection to Ray Hall, a local punchline. The Mineral County Sheriff knows about you, too.

Ex-PH2

And I thought Judge Head in Lubbock was a bit off his nut. Witlessgelding beats him all hollow. What a ‘toon.

Marine_7002

“It is their recommendation to procecute you all.”

Not only are you delusional, but you can’t spell, either. Try using a dictionary once in a while, and find the word “sympathy” while you’re at it…I already told ya where it is. If you need more help with that, talk to Hondo, he’s already given you a couple of hints that are more PC-compatible. heh.

LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41

Ok….! Thanks for the important recon intel. You know I am going right over there at the WV State Police, right..?

And you know I will go right over to the Mineral County Sheriffs’ Department too, right..? Have you got some names I can speak to also.? Save some time.

Whereas, if you are lying to me and further trying to embarass me about this harassment and dishonoring “band of bastards”. You will fry twice, legally.

JP

Hey Dullass, aren’t you in FL? you should head on over to Tampa and meet up with Jonn so you can “serve” him personally. I don’t think he swings that way, though.

Maybe on Monday I’ll make some calls to the VA down there and tell them about how a whacky old vet named Dullass that says he has a case of PTSD has been making threats to people on this site. Yes, I think a will. A little bit of time on lockdown at the local VA’s Behavioral Health ward doing the Thorazine shuffle might work wonders for you.

Ex-PH2

Hondo, I swear, every time I think you are just Mr. Sobersides, you pull a joke on me that knocks me over laughing.

All I can say, with all the crap going on in the world, is
THANK YOU FOR THAT ONE!!!!!

And warn me next time, OK?

JP

Actually, that is exactly what I am going to do. And I’m going to take screenshots of every post where you’ve threatened anyone or said you know where they live, will visit, etc and make up a nice file to send to the VA down there after I call to report my concern for all these people after hearing about your psychiatric issues.

Ex-PH2

Dallas, you incredible drunken dingbat, here are a few rules to remember:

1 – Never try to convince people that you’re clever, because you’re not.

2 – Never do the dead give-away that you’re a cloth-headed ‘toon by admitting undue familiarity with a clinical psych.

3 – Never type when you’re drunk.

Ex-PH2

It was both, Hondo.

2-17 AirCav

Hey Green Thumb. Were you speaking to me in comment 114?

Ex-PH2

Spew alert here:

I should add that my sister’s long-since ex-husband’s name was Richard Handler.

NHSparky

Sheesh. There he goes off the deep end again . . . .

Sadly for him, there’s no water in the pool. Yet he keeps coming back for more.

streetsweeper

slides E-P the *spew bucket*….Lets don’t trash Jonn’s joint up too much while he’s gone. He does get just a little pissy about us leaving empty beer cans, cigarette butts, peanut shells on the floors and ashtrays overflowing….

TSO

Dallas Wittgenfeld is a lying sack of shit who can’t even read the law right. I’ll have more on his idiotic reading of the law (which you no doubt realize he is wrong on) sometime this week. For any that are worried about this moron suing you, don’t worry. a) he has no cause of action in a civil case (he cites to criminal law) and b) the police and local district attorney’s wouldn’t prosecute something like this because they know it doesn’t meet legal requirements.

Why haven’t you been threatening me Dallas? Is it because you know that I know what the law is? Have you looked into how expensive it would be for you to file a baseless civil complaint? Looked into what it costs to serve process on a claim without legal merit?

Sure me first Dallas, go ahead, I am looking forward to it.

TSO

I should also note what someone else noted a while ago, the only one keeping the Wittgenfeld story alive is Wittgenfeld, which the court would look at for a “harassment” claim. Every time these threads die out, he shows up to stoke the fire again. If he had a legal leg to stand on (he never did) he would have cut the leg out by his constant harassment of this blog, our friends, our families, our associates, our employers etc.

Ex-PH2

Is it fair to say that he is the poster child for the ‘crazed vet’ demographic?

TSO

I will say his PTSD diagnosis seems certainly legit to me. But he clearly doesn’t have any understanding of the difference between civil and criminal law.

Jonn Lilyea

How’s he going to tell the difference between criminal and civil when he normally can’t tell the difference between Jonn & TSO? He even confused TSO with The Sniper in one of his little collage thingies

Ex-PH2

Well, for what it’s worth, he has spurred my endeavor to return verbal abuse without the use of profanity or other, more infantile means.

In re: D. Wittlessgelt, well, I went boor hunting and got one without firing a shot.

Green Thumb

@133.

I believe clarification with respect to your response to my comment is appropriate considering I, much like youself, cannot stand this clown.

Ex-PH2

@128 – JP, actually, if you do a print preview, you’ll see that you can do a hard copy printout, which is 49 pages in this case, or if possible a print-to-file document, instead of a screen capture.

2-17 AirCav

@146. You called him an old turd. My comment–meant to be humorous–was to take exception to your use of the adjective “old.” Thus, just because someone is old (as am I) does not make him a card-carrying a-hole, such as the target of your comment. I hope that clears up the matter. Now, it’s your turn, if you please. You wrote to me, “I believe in your immaturity and ignorance you may have judged this the wrong way.” Are you standing by that or should I chalk it up to the occasional inane comments all of us sometimes make?

Scottys Hideaway

Here you go dip shit Dallas. If your going to report me to the WVSP. I’ll supply you with the contact info. If fact if you want to serve me directly & personally . I’m only an hour away from the airport in Charleston WV & will gladly meet you there moron.Let me know when your gonna be flying in. Sorry you can’t parachute in as the Rednecks in this area have been known to take aim at shit birds like you.Now you’ve made the threat & I’ve supplied you with the info to follow through . Put up or shut up RTO boy..Consider yourself ON NOTICE !!
http://www.statepolice.wv.gov/contactus/Pages/default.aspx

Green Thumb

@148.

Thank you for your response.

He is a turd. I will stand/step aside with respect to my comment.

However, sometimes a low profile is not a bad thing.

Common Sense.

TSO

@145, holy shit Hondo, I forgot. I was so busy at work it never even occured to me.
I will post it first thing tomorrow, my promise.

2-17 AirCav

@150. Fair enough. I forgot the issue already.