Ron White; phony SEAL…and well everything
Ray sends us this USAToday’s video of Missouri’s local hero Ron White who claims that he was a photographer’s mate in 1962 when he was drafted by the SEALs to take pictures of Castro’s missile sites in Cuba.
[Editor’s note: Apparently, USAToday pulled the video, so here’s Don Shipley’s video instead]
Yeah, I know, you all believe that story, doncha? Well, it’s on USAToday, so it must be true, huh? Well, Don Shipley says it’s not, and carefully coiffed hair beats a pony-tail every time at TAH. Don says that he knows the name of the SEALs who went on that mission, and White wasn’t one of them. Don also says that his website is total bullshit, too. I don’t know anything about martial arts, so I depend on the kindness of strangers, and Don says that there are no records of him in the United States Martial Arts Association or any of his zany claims.
And, oh, yeah, Don says that this is not a real SEAL ID card, in case you didn’t figure that out already;
Shipley also says that White got out of the Navy as an E-3, so he didn’t qualify to be a photographer’s mate. And you have to ask yourself, why would SEALs risk compromising a mission by taking a 17-year-old fresh out of technical school on mission for which he had no training or experience? Maybe that’s the question that USAToday or KSDK in Fenton, MO should have asked Mr White.
Well, Don called him and asked White some questions, of course, White got angry, but we’ll have a video soon to post.
ADDED: White now says that he never claimed to be a Navy SEAL, you know, depite the SEAL cap that he wore during the interview and the SEAL ID card.
Category: Phony soldiers
That ID card is 100% legit. In fact, I remember “The Seal Team Group” from the 60’s.
Didn’t they record a version of the song “Sea Cruise?” Or was it “The Sloop John B?”
No, Martinjmpr, the ‘Sloop John B’ was the Beach Boys, not the Beach Jumpers.
In that photo, he’s wearing AA (Airman Apprentice, E-2) green rating stripes.
Any FOIA on the horizon? Cam I join The Hair in pounding this jackass?
He picked up some heavy medals there. Wow.
That ID reminds me of the fake IDs we used back in the 70’s to get in bars before turning 18. Five bucks and a passport photo, and boom, any ID you wanted was yours. They even had catalogs.
LOL #1
This guy…just telling his story like its the gospel and truth in that video. What the fuck are these guys thinking when they get local media attention and national media attention. His storie are so over the top. He makes Nikko Lozada look like chump change.
Actually made it through that video. Stories of Elvis, JFK and Castro? He went out of his way to be the Flying Turd.
Ron White the comedian will probably bust his balls too.
I think the boat he was on went out once for a three hour tour, a three hour tour.
C2Show, you actually made it past the JFK stuff?
My stomach turned at that point, and my nose started running, so I had to quit. Couldn’t figure out if it was food poisoning or just general disgust with this jackass.
Photographers Mate, SEAL, the next thing you know he’s going to claim to be an Honorary something. Is Daniel-san having a family reunion that he didn’t tell us about?
LEGIT!
Thumbs up and well done Sailor!
Photog Mate … he and Bernath most definately know each other!
Any questions?
Carry on!
USA Today Fact Check – CHECK
Unbelievable Story – CHECK
Run the Story – CHECK
PH-2, strange that I can make it through this guys shit and not Nikko Lozada’s shitty story.
I was tempted to cut it off after he showed that picture of Cuba. Looking at his face was a problem, so I had to click on another page while listening to the story.
White got angry? Jeez. That’s a novel reaction to being called on one’s bullshit. Please tell me he also told Don that “You’ll be hearing from my attorney!” SEAL. 17. Done.
Boot camp picture wearing E-2 stripes on an ID that says E-4. Yeah, I’m sure that he was promoted twice somewhere between the photo being laminated to the card.
As the other Ron White said, you can’t fix stupid.
Another of Don’s famous videos. I watched the interview, that guy is creepy. Looks like he should be interviewed for child molestation.
His lateral chin fat movement is vomit inducing.
My Dad worked in the Air Force printing plant at Westover air base Mass and printed up some of the photos. He didn’t know exactly what it was at the time. Funny he never showed me his “SEAL” orders.
“Once there, he crawled behind enemy lines to get pictures of Nuclear Russian Missiles on the Island. This later became known as “The Cuban Missile Crisis” and Ron was decorated for his mission. He was awarded the “National Defense Medal” and the “Cold War Commemorative Medal.”
Holy Shit!! I must have been there with him – I’ve got those medals too. Wow – I’m a freakin’ hero. I think I’m going to make a website to tell everyone about it.
How does this happen though really? Doesn’t everyone know those pictures were taken by a U2? How does a reporter for a major news outlet get dooped by this goofy weirdo?
@7: Thank God. I had a terrible fright for a moment thinking my favorite whisky-swilling, cigar-smoking comedian might be a SV ‘nozzle. Simply for making me doubt the better-known Ron White, f**k this a-hole.
Yeah, smokecheck, but ol’ stupid Ron here didn’t sit through JFK’s press conference like my parents and I did when he was showing us those flyover photos that had just come in. In fact, I doubt that FatnStupid here even knows/knew there was/is such a thing as the U-2 aerial surveilliance program.
I’d like to know how old this crapweasel really is, because he should look like he’s in his 80s, and he only looks FatnStupid.
OT: Anyone heard from Sparks? Wasn’t he supposed to get his pecker checked today or maybe it a new knee.
http://rondwhite.com/photo2.html
Look at the 1976 Super Heavyweight Kickboxing Champion of the World certificate.
If it was in 1976, it would be typed. That looks like someone printed it off on an inkjet!?
Sparks is getting a new knee today, SJ. He’s probably either unconscious or waiting for some nurse to come in and give him a sponge bath.
@24……shhhh, don’t tell anyone but Sparks isn’t really having surgery. It’s a cover story. Sparks is really on a secret mission to Cuba.
where is the Shipley video?
26: I knew it was a knee…just being a smart ass. Wonder if his nurse will be named Ratched…he may re-think all this…if he’s really in sick call and not where Air Cav says.
@25 – The cert has an ssn. Guess what – it doesn’t match the name. Gee – what a surprise.
Ex PH-2….what’s with all these Navy guys claiming derring do, as photog mates. Your traveling in pretty fast company, I tell you. (Smile)
He’s grinning like he just snuck into his neighbor’s yard in the middle of the night an knocked up their toy poodle!!
Man, I wish I could have been awarded one of them Cold War Commemorative medals. That’s so badass.
This is just another prime example of how deeply ignorant and lazy journalists are today. How could anyone have sat through this guy’s bullshit with a straight face?
Yep hes legit, you know all the Real SEALS get their ID from the interweb
http://www.uspystore.com/seal-team-id-card.html
@31 3/17AirCav, it’s probably because they got their hands on a camera once. Or maybe they’re just plain stupid.
Most ex-Navy photographers stay in that for a while after they leave the Navy, even if they do other things later on. I kept working at it for a living until about 1983, then I got a job that paid better. I still shoot, though.
This guy’s just a total phony all the way around. Hey, we’ve got someone here who’s tried to pull a bernath on us!
Your’re gonna love this.
“Oct 20th – 24th 1962
I cannnot remember the EXACT dates but I believe this is correct. Once there, he crawled behind enemy lines to get pictures of Nuclear Russian Missiles on the Island. This later became known as “The Cuban Missile Crisis” and Ron was decorated for his mission. He was awarded the “National Defense Medal” and the “Cold War Commemorative Medal.” His exploits are now part of the Library of Congress exhibit # 2003097542.” –Source: http://www.rondwhite.com/bio.html
I refuse to watch some video perpetrated by a lying scumbag sack of shit SEAL-wannabee poser; I’ll just take y’alls’ word for it…
@Enigma, thanks for that spystore link. I always wanted to be a card carrying Helicopter Gunship Pilot/Sniper/Bail Enforcement Agent.
1986
Ron developed a heightened interest in Ninjitsu, (Also spelled Ninjutsu) and went to study with Master Harunaka Hoshino. He fell in love with the style of Ninjitsu even more and has been teaching it ever since under his own style called Cobra Wind Demon Ninjitsu.
Hoshino Harunaka is a San Francisco-based “master” and is half-Chinese and half-Japanese. In the 1970s when kung fu was hot … he was a “kung fu” master. In the mid-80s when the ninja craze hit … he was a ninja master. I’ve read comments back in 2000 and 2005 on other swordsmanship sites where Hoshino was discussed (disgussssst) — he drove a Ninja-mobile around SF with his school name on it.
However, most egregious of all is that he claims to be an expert at judging and polishing Japanese swords. I have read from others that swords sent to/by him would mysteriously disappear in the mail; or, he ruined swords by giving them a substandard polish (this from a well-respected American sword dealer who lives in Japan; I met him in 1993~4 when I lived there from 1990-95). Japanese sword polishers undergo a ten-year apprenticeship before even qualifying to test for the license. Then it takes years more (entering competitions), etc. before people trust you with an expensive blade.
I’ve seen Hoshino and avoid him — he sets up a booth at Japanese cultural fairs and offers to sharpen kitchen knives (he’s good at that). Then he goes on to buy/sell swords, etc. In the meantime, he teaches whatever martial art you might be interested in.
One of Hoshino’s pages https://sites.google.com/site/sfswordsociety/history-of-restoration
…he officially became a personal disciple of several Japanese Government certified swordsmiths in Japan….
Note: he does not name these swordsmiths. Really! I know one man — a Brazilian — who studied with one master for about 7 years (7 days a week) before he could test for his license.
Anyway … one bad apple attracted another, it appears to me.
–ghp
There should be a break after “Demon Ninjitsu.” Thereafter is my comment.
1986
Ron developed a heightened interest in Ninjitsu, (Also spelled Ninjutsu) and went to study with Master Harunaka Hoshino. He fell in love with the style of Ninjitsu even more and has been teaching it ever since under his own style called Cobra Wind Demon Ninjitsu.
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@39-I know the guy you’re talking about. He’s legendary throughout the Bay Area martial arts community for running one of the most ridiculous McDojos there is. He’s a joke, but a bad one. Everybody stay away from him.
And any martial art with a name with that many buzzwords from Oriental/East Asian woo IS FAKE.
Anybody who has little to do with their time, here’s a dissection of Hoshino’s fakery from some knowledgeable in the field:http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67697
I love how the picture on his ID is the same one of him at his website
I’m borrowing from Green Thumb:
Maggot.
Ga-a-a-a-adammit! Where’s The Hair video??? I need egg rolls.
RE#44 Enigma: How many of us were able to sit with our arms folded for a “mil-spec” photo? This is cropped from a personal snapshot. Nope, not official, didn’t happen, just like the rest of his lies.
He might stop by here tonight. I called him and told him that he had made the bigtime.
***EX-PH2***: At his site, he mentions 9 years old in ’54. Making him a 1945 model or 68 years old +/-.
Bastardized llama felcher.
I can only imagine Khrushchev hit him in he face with his shoe.
Practice, of course.
That would explain the missing tooth that he probably sticks smokes and joints into. The level of high assclownery points to this fact.
What a fucking moron.
Just look at this turd. better yet, listen to him.
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“The level of high {assclownery} points to this fact.”
{assclownery} I finally got a chance to see the local news video, its still up. I think the USATODAY’s is gone. I was at an utter and complete loss of words over his incredible tale and the delivery of it. So re-reading the comments, a TAH member comes up with the perfect word. Mucho Gracias. I am surprised the UG MMA or Phil Gizzi hasn’t checked out this cat’s claims about the martial arts. The broadcaster for the local news closes the piece with a voice-over about Ron’s 10th degree black belt and some sort of hall of fame.
Back in high school, I had a theory that I presented to a friend of mine. My buddy was utility player when it came to music. He could play guitar, piano, drums, and a million other instruments. As for me, other than playing the opening of Smoke On The Water, I could only play an LP. Anyway, I said that there are only a limited amount of musical notes that could be played in unique sequence, then eventually the world would run out of new music. He laughed and said it would never happen, as the possibilities are infinite. Then how come every rap song seems to rip off, or what the like to call sample, classic rock music?
Now, extending that theory to stolen valor, there is a limited amount of bullshit stories that could be told in order to impress the gullible public. Case in point? This guy here. Within a span of several weeks, we now have to individuals in the Naval Photography field claiming a link to SEAL service. It’s like they all gave up trying. Not only are they too lazy and incompetent to actually earn the decorations, now they can’t even make up an original back story. An earlier post on this particular thread mentioned that you used to be able to purchase bogus IDs in the back of magazines. I recall that Rolling Stone Magazine used to carry advertisements in the back for fake IDs. You could also order up term papers. Somewhere out there, there has to be someone selling Stolen Valor packages to guys to lazy to put together their own fake biographies.
I’m gonna throw a little bit out there and say that I was closer to the bad guys than this guy ever was, and all I got for it was a NUC.
And Jorge was there on the same boat as me at the same time. Just sayin. Nothing that you’d write home about–nor did I.