Toy gun buy back; the natural “progression” of things

| July 26, 2013

Eggs sends us a link from Tucson’s KGUN9 in which they report that some hand-wringing “progressives” are sponsoring a toy gun buy back program;

They’re nothing but plastic, wood and paint.

They shoot styrofoam and squirt water.

But some worry these toys carry a menacing message.

“By having a toy guns around the house, they look at it as just a toy,” said Lieutenant Jeff Inorio of the South Tucson Police Dept. “So what makes that kid not pick up a real gun thinking its also a toy?”

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“Our kids are growing up in a very harsh reality,” said director Gloria Hamelitz. “Kids dying in school– its happening and we need to do something about it.”

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“It probably leads to kids wanting real guns at a younger age,” said one man. “It probably leads to more violent behaviors.”

And the hippies can sleep at night knowing that they “did something” in their tiny warped little minds. I guess it doesn’t matter that majority of Americans are snickering behind their backs because of their naivete and total disregard of common sense. Maybe they can partner up with the LAPD which also buys back harmless plastic tubes as if they’re doing something.

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Twist

Am I the only one that clicked the link to make sure that this didn’t come from the Onion?

Sparks

I am rounding up all my 33 year old son’s toy guns and heading for Tucson! He had enough that maybe the by back money can put me into that new S&W M&P 40 I want. 😀

PintoNag

I was a strange little girl; I never liked dolls. What I liked were horses and guns. I had water pistols. And my dad had a .38. And the reason I’m alive to tell you this is because I listened to my dad’s warning that if I ever touched that .38 without his permission…if the gun didn’t get me, he would.

I grew up knowing the difference. The water pistol was a toy, and that .38 wasn’t, just like my little plastic tea set was a toy, and my mother’s good china wasn’t. Kids aren’t stupid — you’re supposed to TEACH THEM. That’s what my parents did, and what we are sadly lacking in parents today. PARENTING.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

“By having a toy guns around the house, they look at it as just a toy,” said Lieutenant Jeff Inorio of the South Tucson Police Dept. “So what makes that kid not pick up a real gun thinking its also a toy?”

His parents actually parenting as #3 points out perhaps?

All of this crap is always devoid of context…to what end are they pursuing this? To save one kid? Really? Then why aren’t they strengthening the child abuse laws and giving more money to the CPS programs in Arizona? A few years back Phoenix was the #1 city for child abuse deaths and Arizona as a whole was #2….seems to me based on that it’s more likely that mom and dad are beating their kids to death than allowing toy guns to be substituted with real ones…..goes back to what Pinto said again….

509thBob

My sisters, who resided in Tucson for a while, constantly told me about the idiotic limousine liberal plans these fools hatched — such as “voluntarily” placing homeless bums in people’s houses.

Lando

California did the same thing a while back at a school.

Robot Wrangler

Pinto, the problem is that we have raised a generation of parents who are pussys(sorry for the language but nothing else fits quite so well).

Instead of parenting their child they would rather be their friend and let schools, TV, and outside influences teach and raise their children. I had my first gun when I was 11, I was taught to respect it and not to do stupid stuff with it. I plan on doing the same with my daughter, when you make something taboo to a child the first thing they want to do is find out why they shouldnt touch, drink, smoke, read, or watch said taboo object. If you educate your child and take the time to explain the do’s and don’ts then you take away the mistique. Too bad the whole touchy feely your a special snowflake crowd feels this is a good idea.

Robot Wrangler

P.S. I agree with you, I just read what I posted and saw I went into rant mode. Giving up caffein is playing hell with my thought process.

2/17 Air Cav

What a hoot!“So what makes that kid not pick up a real gun thinking its also a toy?” True. That’s the same reason that so many 7-year olds are behind the wheels of cars and trucks on the highways, isn’t it? The kids can’t tell the difference bewteen their toys and the real cars and trucks. Perfect.

PintoNag

@8 No worries,RW! I understood you. And I had to give up caffeine about a year ago, so you have my condolences. 😉

2/17 Air Cav

Dammit. I almost singlehandedly won WW II in the early 60s. We would have lost that war if I had been denied ny guns–a rifle and a six shooter that also served as a whistle.

FormerUSN

I say let’s have a “kid buyback” to free all the poor children with wacked out parents and find sane folks to adopt them, nurture them, teach them common freakin sense!

Pat

@ 1, me too! My first thought was Duffle Blog.

Ex-PH2

My brother’s first guns were cap pistols. Then for his sixth birthday, after he had wired to oil lamps to turn them into electric lamps at age 7, he got a BB gun and was told by my mother that if he shot anything but tree stumps and paper targets on the side of the garage or the corn crib, he would lose that BB gun for good. It saved a lot of chickens for later use in the frying pan. Now he hunts pheasants with a rifle. I was always borrowing his cap pistols so that I could pretend I was Dale Evans on Buttermilk, chasing the bad guys out of Deadwood Gulch.

I don’t understand these people. They can’t keep their kids under control at movie theaters and restaurants, but they’re afraid the little ankle biters will turn into murdering gun nuts if they see or touch a toy gun.

Maybe some day, some kind soul will explain to me how this works.

cannoncocker

For real though, if I lived in Tuscon I would go to their little buy back and try to sell them a half eaten pop tart. The look on their faces would be worth more than gold.

Lando

Better than Obama praising Ho Chi Minh on tv.

FatCircles0311

“It probably leads to kids wanting real guns at a younger age,” said one man. “It probably leads to more violent behaviors.”

lol bold faced lie.

There are decades of statistics which show the exact opposite with violent crime being the lowest it’s ever been. That is even with Chicago’s war zone status! This is the same nonsense being used by the same fascists that were saying how music was the cause of violence and now video games which there is absolutely no correlation. All of the studies have shown the exact opposite premise of the freedom hating libtards.

I’m so tired of these scumbags. I wish they’d 8th dimension out of here to go live in their fantasy world so society isn’t polluted by their false narratives proven by nothing but their own fears because freedom is too scary for them.

For shitbag police to be under this delusion means they are literally unfit for the job. They participate in the FBI’s UCR and should know what 1st year criminal justice students do regarding crime statistics, how to easily find them, and with the most basic of literacy abilities formulate a conclusion based in reality.

Just An Old Dog

As a parent I steered clear of buying my kids toy guns. I bought them CO2 pellet pistols which I kept put aside and only let them use when I supervised.
Regardless if you are pro-gun or a full blown anti-gun ‘tard you need to teach your kids about guns.
Toy gun buy back? Stupid, you would be better off putting that money in a youth sports program or mentoring.

David

Toy guns as a gateway toy? Ridiculous…. that would be like warning people off breast feeding or their male offspring would grow up wantimg to fondle….. oh, wait, bad example.

I’m liking cannoncocker’s idea…. hell, with a few half-eaten poptarts I could fill my grandkids’ Christmas wish lists.

A Proud Infidel & Patriot

Hell, if I lived anywhere near Tuscon, I’d go buy an assload of cheap toy guns at the $1 Store and cash ’em in, why should only the stupid profit from something like that ?

Valkyrie

I’m going to admit a painful truth to you guys my friends right now. (sniff) I use to be one of these idiot parents who felt this way about guns. I’m so sorry!! (gasp) It wasn’t the way I was raised, in fact both my parents were cops and I was raised with guns everywhere in my home. (sniffle) The eye opening moment for me came when my dad bought my 2 year old son a toy gun and I promptly threw it away. My Dad said ok fine, and left my home, only to return a few hours later with a Real gun for my son who he gave to him before I knew he was back. He then reminded me that even though my brothers and I was raised with guns all around us none of us had shot ourselves or anyone else. He taught my son and me to respect guns and to learn everything we could about them. And then he told me if I ever pulled some shit like that again with HIS Grandbabies he’d kick my ass. Then the rainbows came out and we all had chicken for dinner. The End! (clap)

Biermann

They did this in St. Louis a couple of weeks ago. I tried sending the link to you but guess it didn’t make it. They never did report the haul from the buy back.

Menoth

I wish they’d run shit like this like a needle exchange at a methadone clinic. You know, turn in a shot out old gun and get a new one free of charge, along with gun safety literature and new trigger locks.

Biermann

@ 21 Valkyrie, that brought a tear to my eye.

PintoNag

@21 Valkyrie, you missed your calling, I think.

Valkyrie

@24, 25 – Thank you! That’s how it happened, my Daddy was a man of few words. When he spoke you listened or ducked. Your choice.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

So I told my, get this, seven year old son Dylan about the toy gun buy back. He looked at me perplexed and took his time, then citing the “astronaut from the ape movie” he said of his Red Ryder, Super Soaker Artic Shock and armory of Nerf Guns, “from my cold dead hands they are not getting my toys”.

This is a no shitter … This kid saw Heston’s NRA speech on You Tube one night with me and put this together in his own mind.

One for Dad … Two of Dylan!

Instinct

I will share this since Valkyrie shared. Before my first was born I went over to Wally World and while I was perusing the plethora of stuff available I saw they had the standard Red Ryder BB gun in stock and I picked it up.

While telling one of my coworkers about it a girl near us said “Well what if you don’t have a boy, then what are you going to do?”

“Simple,” says I,”instead of saying ‘Son, this is the front sight, the rear sight and the safety’ I’ll say ‘Honey, this is the front sight, the rear sight and the safety'”

She hasn’t spoken to me since. I call it a win.

David

There’s a safety on a RedRyder? Seriously?

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

Yes. Of course. Have you ever been shot by a BB gun? Breaks skin just like a bullet. Can take an eye out. Geeze have you ever watched “A Christmas Story”?

TMB

Thanks to Netflix my 3 year old son is growing up on exactly the same action-adventure cartoons I did 30 years ago. My generation didn’t all grow up to be a bunch of psychotic killers so maybe there’s more to it? He has a plastic sword, shield, helmet, a couple squirt guns, and watches Disney movies. Looking at those movies again as an adult, they’re actually rather violent. He marches around the sofa with the broom on his shoulder and pretends to shoot a rifle while watching the History Channel with me. Far from being a killer in training, I’ve managed to use those opportunities to teach him to respect his toy firearms and be safe with them. He uses the park playground as his pirate ship and pretends to fire a cannon. He’s not in school yet, and the thing that worries me the most is his preschool teacher overreacting to him wanting to play the same games I played as a child.

Eggs

I just hope that police LT doesn’t have kids.

My BB gun story – My brother got a Daisy BB rifle for Christmas one year, one of those single cock deals. We’re out shooting in the back yard one day, he half cocks it (lever still down), hands it to me and tells me to pull the trigger. I didn’t know any better, so I pull the trigger, the lever comes up and slams my 3 fingers. My brother lost the rifle for 3 months and had a meeting with a leather belt.

cannoncocker

Don’t remember any specific incidents involving toy guns or real guns when I was growing up, at least none where anyone got hurt or had an ND or anything like that. My dad raised his kids with a healthy respect for guns. He taught my older brother and I how to shoot at an early age, I think it was around 4 or 5 years old. I always knew the difference between a real gun and a toy gun. Always. I had lots of toy guns growing up. Squirt guns, cap guns, nerf guns, these little guns that shot plastic discs. I also played a lot of games when I was a kid involving my toy guns. Cops and robbers, army, just general shootouts with friends, etc. The one thing do remember is when my dad wanted to take my brother and I out to shoot his shotguns. He opened up his gun cabinet and had my brother pull out a 20 gauge pump. My brother pulled the trigger without clearing it first, we heard nothing but a click and then my dad yelling at him to never, ever do that, to never pull the trigger on a gun without clearing it first. That was a lesson neither one of us ever forgot.

Years later my brother and I are both gun enthusiasts, both in the Army (though my brother is an Officer) and we have both been carrying concealed weapons in public for many years, and wouldn’t ya know it, our guns have never magicked themselves out of our holsters to shoot someone.

malclave

So, how many “toy guns” for buyback purchases in a bag of little green army men?

ExHack

Valkyrie, that is a special story. And you truly are a Special Little Snowflake.

Common Sense

We always had cap guns around, but my boys would make guns out of branches and Legos as well. They were always hunting bad guys. Now my son is in the CO ANG and has a collection of real guns and has yet to shoot anything but a target.

Ex-PH2

So what’s next. Legislation against snowball fights and pillow fights?

What about food fights? Should ballistic Jell-o be declared a deadly weapon because someone might get a faceful?

If I make a mountain out of my mashed potatoes, am I going to be considered a radical aiming at building a missile base?

Are these people unable to get through even one day without finding something to be afraid of?

Ex-PH2

Oh, yeah — I am uncertain about bananas. The shape is SO suggestive….. 🙂

malclave

@37
If I make a mountain out of my mashed potatoes, am I going to be considered a radical aiming at building a missile base?

No, it just means you’re about to be contacted by aliens.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

1. CO2 Pellet and Dart Gun Story:

I was probably 13 and I bought a pistol for 5 bucks or so which resembled a semi-auto. My dad found it in my room during a routine inspection (there were 7 freckled faced red heads under his command).

He wad pissed. I was called out to the driveway later to find my father standing next to a pile of metal shredded, saw cut, bent, and unrecognizable. He told me that weapon I had could have resulted in my death because it truly looked like the real thing. He went on to say … “If you want to play with guns … join the military”.

2. Four Years Earlier Story

We all had WASP guns and played man hunt. Every family in our part of town had big families. So Friday and Saturday night it was our duty to fill the air with as much sulphur as our small allowances could support. Each team was deep in numbers and age range. We played, got hurt, argued, remained friends, and everyone was at home on time each night!

3. This IS a Stick Up Story

I walked into the deli, pointed my WASP gun at “Herman the German” (owner) and said, “this is a stick up!” He tossed me a SNICKERS Bar (10 cents then) at me and sent me home.

If I or we did these things today. I or we would all be doing life … 3 strikes.

2/17 Air Cav

HOMEMADE POTATO MASHER

INGREDIENT: Cap from can of spray paint; 8 inch length of old broom/mop handle; spray foam insulation. Paint optional.

DIRECTIONS: Insert handle into underside of cap and fill surround with foam. Paint to taste. Have fun!

Valkyrie

@35 Ex-Hack – Thanks! I like you too! hah!

Tom6400

When I was a kid I used to run the woods hunting Viet Cong with stick guns. If I am lucky, I can sell the storm damage in my yard to these schmucks!

Instinct

#29 – Yeah, there is, David. I know, kinda silly but hey, if it get’s my son (and soon to be here daughter – due end of August) practicing their gun safety then it’s all good for me.

Instinct

One of my BB gun stories from my youth –

Some of the best times I had when I was a kid was when my dad and I, or my brother and I, would run down to the front acre and hang a target on an old shed that was out there and spend the afternoon practicing our plinking skills.

There was of course this one time that in between shots at some old soda cans on the shed fence my brother decided it would be very funny to shoot me in the a.. – er in the ‘upper thigh’ area to see how much it would hurt, and while it did sting we both got a good laugh. I got him back by returning the favor when he wasn’t expecting it. 30 years later as we all sat around the Thanksgiving table with our wives and, in my other brother’s case, children middle brother looks over at me and says “Remember when I shot you in the butt that one time?” and we started cracking up.

Mom though, who had never heard this story (Because we weren’t stupid) looks over and says “What? When did this happen?” and then proceeded to chew us both out for doing something so unsafe. I finally looked at her and said “Mom, it was over thirty years ago, you can’t ground us for it now!”

She was still a little mad.

In our defense, we DID follow the four rules of gun safety in a twisted kind of way. We did treat the weapon as if it was loaded; We did point the muzzle at what we were wanting to shoot; We did keep our fingers off the trigger until we were ready to shoot; And, we were both ABSOLUTELY sure of what we were shooting when we pulled the trigger.

Anonymous

Ah, liberals… let’s make everyone afraid of guns, even toy ones, then let’s only have the police (or KGB, SS, etc.) who work us us have them! (Scratch a left/liberal, find a tyrant who likes to abuse people.)

The Dead Man

I was taught at the ripe old age of 7 how to shoot with my Daisy BB Gun. I was told I was never to point it at something I didn’t want destroyed and I was told that I’d only be allowed to shoot under my dad’s supervision until I could reliably put ten shots into a target the size of a dime without missing. Seeing as how this took the better part of a year and some change, I think it was more making sure I had a goal to work for while disguising an excuse to keep an eye on me without pissing off my younger self. Always been a bit mouthy.

Fast forward some number of years later, I was teaching my younger cousin to shoot with the exact same rifle, I told him the same things my dad told me, adding if I ever found him range sweeping someone I was knocking his ass out. He’s only done that once. Found myself looking down the barrel of my own gun, reflexively pulled it out of the way and punched him. Felt kind of bad as he ran up to tell his dad until his dad came out, had him apologize to me and told him he deserved it. Kid goes shooting with me occasionally and every time he picks it up, he checks the safety, pops the mag and checks the chamber.

Still, it all comes down to parenting and supervision. The best thing you can do is teach them to shoot properly under supervison, preferably with something like an apple, toy or somesuch so they can see it breaking. A good object lesson.

A Proud Infidel & Patriot

I have a Nephew, now 14, that I taught how to shoot when he was 12. He’s shot everything I have, from .45ACP to .22LR, including my 12 Gauge, AR15 and my SKS. The first thing I taught him was safety and responsibility with a firearm, he still loves to go shooting, and he’s a good, responsible Young Man. Liberals are absolutely full of themselves, but what else is new?

Ex-PH2

Wait until things go sour and they come running to you to defend them.

I have a typo in #14 above: it should be ‘after my brother wired ‘two’ oil lamps at ‘age 4’. Fumble fingers. Not enough caffeine.

Sparks

@45 “You’ll shoot your eye out!” That’s the truth of what my mother said. Never shot my eye out but my brother had a BB under his forearm skin for years before he had it removed. My bad.