A confession
For those of you who have been watching the comedic drama in the Dallas Wittgenfeld discussion; we’ve had his orders for his CIB for months. Well, Hondo had the orders and emailed me about them. So, I’ll admit that I was wrong when I guessed that he didn’t deserve the CIB. Having admitted that, since we had the orders, we didn’t bring up the issue again, mostly because Wittgenfeld also claimed to have a Bronze Star Medal with a “V” in interviews and because he claimed that somehow he was authorized to wear the green beret. Now he claims that reporters got the story wrong and his sole defender thinks that sending us a set of orders for an Army Commendation Medal with a “Valor” device somehow proved that his claims of the Bronze Star are true. So which is it? Did the reporters get the story wrong or is an ARCOM with a “V” the same thing as a BSM?
We’ve never questioned the ARCOM, so sending the orders for it just plugged up my inbox with more crap.
I apologize that we didn’t come clean on the CIB sooner, and by the way, the Wittgenfeld Stolen Valor Cabal just coughed the orders up last night, he’s been telling us for months that he had the orders, too, but never produced them.
Category: Phony soldiers, Shitbags
a BSM with V is not the same, not even close to a ARCOM w/ V. im USMC and i know that.
ive been following the discussion, and i’ve yet to see him act cordial, or even professionally. he may have mental issues due to a honorable tour in vietnam, but that does not excuse his behavior.
IMO you’ve got little to apologize for, Jonn. I never sent you those orders because I was still researching their legitimacy – specifically, I was trying to find unit records to corroborate Wittgenfeld having been in a firefight after award of his 11B MOS and before his CIB orders were issued, as would have been required under DA regs of the day. We’ve seen orders here before that turned out to be not legitimate and were later revoked. I wasn’t sure if that was the case here or not.
Until yesterday, I didn’t know about the apparent USARV exception to DA regs regarding RTOs in infantry units in Vietnam, which is contrary to the Army reg of the day. And I still haven’t seen that exception in black and white myself – although the ABCMR doesn’t tend to make mistakes when interpreting regs.
Until yesterday, I was convinced Wittgenfeld’s CIB might not be legit. I’m now pretty much convinced it is indeed legit – though I’d still like to find a copy of USARV Reg 672-1 and read for myself precisely what it says on the matter. So far, I haven’t been able to find a copy.
But, for the record: yes, at this point I’d say Wittgenfeld virtually certainly does rate the CIB – under a USARV exception to DA policy. I’ll make that “certainly” vice “virtually certainly” when I’ve located and read that exception myself. And I’ll edit my prior article on Wittgenfeld to reflect the new information recently brought to light.
Screw Dallas… I said long ago he was awarded the CIB, but he was never Infantry. He can wear that CIB as an RTO assigned to the Ranger Unit, but he cannot wear anything else.
As to his claims of the BSM and Green beret in those old articles, damned sure he said it and it was not an error by multiple reporters.
The truth is all any of us asked of him. Instead, we got attitude. He destroyed, through his own actions here and elsewhere, every ounce of respect I would otherwise have had for him.
Oh, well. His loss not ours.
We all know this guy is a blow-hard. Hasn’t too much time been spent on this guy already?!
I think he’s going for the record in his column. Otherwise, it wouldn’t keep cropping up. Maybe the thing to do is close it to further posts once it reaches 800.
Sparky, I left a message for you regarding coffee in Wittlessgelding’s column.
I’d be willing to bet that the strict rules for award of the CIB (infantry MOS’s only, Brigade and below, exposed to hostile fire for XX days, etc) have never been fully enforced, for a number of reasons.
And given the lackadaisical record keeping in those days (much of it done, undoubtedly, by draftee clerks who were just marking time until their discharge date) I’m actually surprised that there aren’t more record screw-ups.
Still, Wittgenfeld is proof that just because someone isn’t a poser, it doesn’t mean they’re not an asshole.
After a lie or two… everything becomes suspect.
martinjmpr: I’m not sure I’d go so far as to absolve Wittgenfeld completely re: being a poser. There still are the matters of his claims of BSM w/V device (he doesn’t have one, but multiple articles from the early 1970s say he does – and I think we all know where those reporters got their info); his false claims of being “Special Forces”; and his lying his way into (and getting thrown out of) the Special Forces Association.
But he’s apparently a poser who actually did serve honorably and under damned arduous conditions. He does have a CIB, a couple of Purple Hearts, as well as other decorations – including a decoration for valor. He also served as a Drill Sergeant. That’s a damned fine record for 3 years of active duty.
But it also apparently wasn’t enough to suit him. Sad.
@8 exactly, I made mention of a favorite quote of mine in that almost 800 posts thread:
“One lie has the power to tarnish a thousand truths.”
Even Nietschze said, “I am not upset you lied to me, I am upset that now I can never believe you again”
Once you’re conned, you’re always suspicious.
Thanks for being honest and clarifying the CIB issue. That really does not change much for the poser, however. Keep doing what you do! We appreciate it.
Hooah.
The most disgusting part of this, is that this behavior does not just hapoen here- it is all over the internet. Idiots behind computer screens attacking real veterans- many of which do have PTSD.
You can justify your behavior all you want, blame your victims for not cooperating or just try to find some other dirt that is not related to your original accusations and try to fool everyone about how wrong you were and how wrong what you are doing is, but that doesnt change a thing. You harassed a real veteran here. You need to man up, apologize, and move on. Around 26 veterans end thier lives every day. Leave all real veterans alone.
Any idiot can get a mob started. But it takes someone with integrity to send everyone home. It’s obvious you are still holding a torch and… a grudge. You don’t like it when someone stands up to you? Well Dallas did. Its not the sign of a poser. He’s a real BTDT guy.
So now what? Look up my IP address to try to figure out who I am so you can start your next witch hunt? Who I am is unimportant as this is about you. Man up and worry about your own character and integrity for once. Those of us that are the real deal have nothing to prove to anyone. Nothing. And nothing you say or write can ever change the reality of our service.
There is a long list of real veterans who have been disrepected and dishonored by the likes of you, socnet, pownetwork and Facebook wannabees witch hunters like Scott Hughes and John Cook.
You have to love it though when bullies like socnet, pownetwork and yourselves start crying when the same dirty tactics you use are applied to you. Bullies crying- “victim”… Now that’s justice.
Now, who might Wittgenfeld know who would actually be literate enough to write the above?
If you’re who I think you are, “SF JUSTICE”, you’re a 6-year Navy vet who was discharged as an E-2, and who’s falsely claimed in the past to have been a SEAL. You’ve been busted on that account publicly – and you’ve been butt-hurt ever since.
Wittgenfeld is a lying tool; that’s been proven – repeatedly – here. He’s lied about his military record repeatedly here and over the past 40 years. He’s lied about other things, too. All of that’s been documented in many forms, here and elsewhere. As well as the fact that he’s a racist, a misogynist, and a complete and utter jackass.
But it appears he probably did tell the truth about his CIB – even if final verification of the USAR-V exception to DA regulations allowing him to receive it as an O5B/Radio Operator is still pending. It appears to be one of the few things he’s been legit about here. Most of the rest of his claims here have ranged from half-truths mixed with BS to outright lies.
The real pity is that Wittgenfeld’s actual military service was honorable. He had no reason to claim stuff he never did other than to make himself look like the second coming of “John Wayne” because he didn’t feel he’d been treated like “a hero”. But he made those false claims anyway.
Wittgenfeld the man? Honorable? No, he’s contemptible. He’s a jackass, a clown, a blowhard, a racist, a misogynist, is disrespectful towards anyone who disagrees with him, and is in general a thoroughly disagreeable fool.
The fact that you’d defend someone of his ilk says more about you, “SF JUSTICE”, than you probably want to admit. You’re either gullible as hell – or you’re just like him.
I know which way I’d bet.
Whatever. As I said before in the thread that won’t die, Wittwhatshisname strikes me as a cross between Bozo and Liberace, whatever his legit claims.
Let’s see that “long list of real veterans”, buddy.
Anyone has the right to express and share thier personal opinions about anyone else. But when you lie, make false accusatuons or distort the truth, you become no better than the posers. In fact, you steal valor from those that have earned it.
Want a list? You are missing the point. When you wrongfully harassed your first real veteran, you lost all credibility. Harassing just one veterans is one veteran too many. Most of the people who you go after here truly are posers. But post a list of those wronged? So their lives can be taken apart, scrutinized and dragged over the coals a second time? Who, with any intelligence, would participate in that? How many indivuals how been given a full, unconditional apology by TAH or similar sites/blogs?
And then everyone who threw in their wreckless two-cents worth also came back and apologized? Let’s see your list of those you feel you’ve wronged- starting with Dallas… Let’s see it in writing. I doubt you could man up and do it. Has TAH every fully apologized to anyone? Or do you always do what you are doing now- change the topic? Dallas was a LRRP and Ranger in Vietnam. He too has PTSD. Is there ANY honor in harassing, mocking or even trying to upset such a man,? Seriously, do you have ANY justification for your behavior here?
Anyone can come up with a smart ass answer or excuse. But at the end of the day, you have to look at yourself in the mirror. Its a very private matter. Who here can claim that they are a better man than Dallas? That they sacrifced more for our country? Who here is willing to make those claims? That’s a list of names I’d love to read.
“Who here can claim that they are a better man than Dallas?”
I don’t think my computer can handle the list of names of service members that have never claimed to be a green beret or have a BSM with V.
@18
Honorable service/hooahness/chest candy/etc doesn’t necessarily make one an “honorable person”.
Dallas lost all my respect when he made threats against people here and their families, insulted and threatened women, made racist remarks, and acted like an asshole in general.
That’s not “honorable” for anyone, and i don’t give a fuck where they served or what they did. You act like an asshole, you get treated like one. It really is THAT simple.
Now please, stop making a fool of yourself with your half cocked, uninformed BS and do yourself a favor and pop smoke.
Out.
Hondo- you are clueless as to who I am, so pack up your toys and go home. Its SF as in USAJFKSWCS, not the Navy. Is it really that hard for you (and probably most who comment on here) to imagine a legitimate veteran might dare to speak up against public injustices. There must be sonething fake about me, right? That’s the #1 problem- making false assumptions.
I apologize if I do not follow the protocol of this site. I do not regularly visit here. But one thing is certain, this will not be the start of a new witch hunt. The topic is TAH’s mistake(s). This is not about myself, my identity, nor my service. Trying to make this about me is an immature tactic. There are enough commentors on here who know or might guess who I am, as they have dealt with me in the past. But again, unfortunately…. This is not about me. So, man up and carry on.
@18: Well, I will say that the only thing I accused Dallas of was wearing the uniform all cocked up. Then, I castigated him for his own wreckless behavior in the ensuing posts and acting like a complete jackass that has no honor. The PTSD excuse doesn’t excuse all of his behavior, because he puts himself out in public and calls himself a hero and brags that people pay him money to call him hero, etc. No, you are wrong in using the PTSD defense for him. You don’t get to accept public accolades for your service and then hide behind PTSD when things start to go bad; it doesn’t work like that and you should know that.
As for apologies when someone on this site is wrong? I guess you haven’t been here very much, because I have read Jonn apologize when he’s wrong.
This has nothing to do with being better than anyone,or “sacrificing” more than anyone, it’s about honest representation of service, something the flying assclown failed to do. It doesnt’t matter if someone was a friggin cook, baker or candlestick maker; as long as that’s the story they tell, then they are already a “better man” than the flying assclown, by leaps and bounds. It’s painful to watch because his record is commendable, but like hondo said, it just wasnt enough for his over-inflated ego.
“SF JUSTICE”: most of those commenting here don’t lie about their military service; the few that try get hammered. Nor do those regularly commenting here they take kindly to those who lie about their military service.
Wittgenfeld lies – about his military record, and about other things. He continues to this day to claim things that simply are not true.
An honorable individual doesn’t continue to lie after making a mistake – like being discovered lying. They “man up” and correct the record. They don’t continue to perpetuate that and other lies in order to make money and get attention.
Those who do what Wittgenfeld have done – that is, embellish their military record and continue to make false claims about it – IMO deserve what they get. Sunlight is in fact an excellent disinfectant. An honest man has nothing to fear from the sunlight.
I won’t claim to be a “better” man than Wittgenfeld. But I will claim to be more honest.
Twist- you are the perfect example of why I am not going to engage with commentors on here. Can you read? I asked “who on here?” Have YOU made greater sacrifices for our country than Dallas? I too know the names of others who have made great sacrices for our country. But speaking for myself, I haven’t. Have YOU, Twist? If not, then stop embarassing yourself and others who may have legitimate comments to post on here. Since I am new to this forum, there mat be men on here whose service to our country deserves acknowledgement. Let them speak up.
The fact is, if you play with a bear, don’t cry if you get bit. If you don’t like how Dallas responded to your attacks and mockery, perhaps you should have not opened your mourh in the first place… before knowing the truth about his service. I will sit back and just continue to read the insults and excuses that are certain to follow. But does anyone have the integrity to man up and just apologize? Let’s see…
“SF JUSTICE”: so perhaps you’re not who I thought you were.
No, it’s not hard for me to think that a legitimate vet would disagree with me. That happens all the time here.
But it is hard for me to imagine a legitimate vet defending someone who’s been caught lying about their military service, trading on the valor and accomplishments of others for personal profit or to stoke their ego.
1. You are arguing semantics.
2. I have two tours in Iraq as an Infantryman, but I never said my “sacrafice” is greater than anyone elses.
3. “you are the perfect example of why I am not going to engage with commentors on here.” yet here you are engaging with comentors on here.
4. I have never spoken or even commented to Dallas so it is kind of hard for him to respond to my “attacks and mockery”.
5. I have never claimed to be SF or have a BSM with V. Like Hondo said, I never claimed to be “better” than Dallas, but I will claim to be more honest.
“Who here can claim that they are a better man than Dallas? That they sacrifced more for our country?” Well shit that second one should be a no brainer. Want to find men that have sacrificed “more” than the flying assclown? I’m sure they’re here, but they’re not loud mouth braggarts. Tell you what, if you can’t figure it out, there’s a wall in DC you should visit. If the answer continues to allude you, there’s a cemetary in VA you should make a stop at. If that doesn’t clarify who has made more of a sacrifice than Dallas Fucking Wittgenfeld, then you’re beyond help my friend. Get over yourself.
Who here can claim to be a better man that Dallas? Myself and so many others who have never lied or stretched the truth, who have never berated other veterans for their honorable service, who have not made racist or sexist comments here and elsewhere.. Oh, and never tried to get individuals fired from their jobs, never screwed with an active duty soldier trying to get them screwed while they were deployed in a combat zone.
All things Dullass did himself, and I suspect you alongside him as well.
I for one have never called Dallas a poser, but felt the brunt of his irrational and pathetic anger early on in all of this. He is a small man, and not just in stature butin character where it really matters.
Dallas may be an honorably discharged Vietnam Veteran, but he has no honor.
Talk of honor and respect. There is no one here who answered SF Justice’s question. Nor has anyone “REALLY” made a confession. You got your ass handed to you by Dallas. You lied about him and he came back swinging. What did you expect, a touchy feely response from him?
You have no HONOR, nor respect for service to country. Denigrating one of our own for your own gain, that is what you all have done here. You don’t even have the balls to admit when your wrong. This half hearted attempt at confessing and protecting your tough guy personna isn’t cutting it. You are transparent as glass. Stains on the uniform that is all you are. Man up, apologize and be done with it.
How many have you done this too? As SF Justice said you make one mistake and all your credibility is lost. I never respected your Green on green attacks in the first place, now that you’ve proven yourselves as chicken shits by not making a real apology and for not allowing Dallas to comment (which you are holding back his comments, and you know it), second coming of John Wayne? Mr. Wayne would be disgusted by your childish antics. Shame on you. Aren’t you the same SOB that called this the face of a broken Army? Faggots and women are unfit for combat? Oh no that was one of your homophobe self-loathing partner. Grow up and remember your Oath.
@30. Is that Just Look, a Tit! or Just look at it?
Does calling out phonies like dullass make us….FRAUDOPHOBES?! Just wondering…
@31 – ROFLMAO. Startled the cat.
@32 – Yes, it does. But it’s a good phobe.
Hi … I am Justtakeahike … Justlookatit is my retarded half cousin. Justlookatit is just pissed because the trailer called home just burned to the ground on the same day the rear axle of the only pick-up in our family fell off in the middle of the county road. We needed that pick-up for moonshine and meth deliveries. So please cut my retarded cousin/in-law some slack.
Is there a new group ” Keyboard Commandos for Wittgenfeld” or something?
Where are these tools coming from?
“Who here can claim that they are a better man than Dallas?”
Well, I could say it but that doesn’t make it so.
“That they sacrifced more for our country?”
Hmmm. That one I probably could claim legitimately.
“Who here is willing to make those claims? That’s a list of names I’d love to read.”
Keep reading.
I think that @30’s moniker could justifiably be labeled obscene. Who on earth would want to look at it?
I did not comment on here to bash this site nor single out any individual. Rather I just wanted to point out the mentality some individuals may have when the hear the word “poser”. It seems at that moment some people lose common sense, regress to a more primitive way of thinking or perhaps just seem to get pleasure or thier self-esteem lifted when they might find faults in another. Listed on this site is obviously a great number of fakes and phonies who are belittling the service of others. It also contaibs a large amount of either entertaining or informative material. No debate with that either. But, with the case of Ranger Wittgenfeld here and on other sites, as well as with other real veterans who are being mocked and harassed- the origin of the attacks, lies and distortions are brought in from outsiders who in a sense, hijack sites like TAH by making false accusations ans spreading lies. If you look around, you’ll see a pattern. A small group of inviduals influence others solely because they have a personal grudge and/or agenda against real veterans and have no other way to deal with thier frustrations. I’ve seen these same individuals go after a 9th grade boy and harass his parents. Now they have broadening thier playground and are using TAH to support thier personal agendas. This is not an attempt to trick or manipulate anyone, but I would give it some thought before posting degrading or demeaning commemts about veterans. Some may actually be real. And when you do that, you are stealing the valor and honor a veteran has earned because of his service. When you make a childish comment, disrespectful remark or sling out an unwarranted insult, you may want to believe it only relects on yourself. The reality is that it reflects highly on the the nature, purpose and professionalism of this site. It also degrades the opinion others may have about image they hold towards veterans and the mentality of veterans. Laugh it up and continue with your childishness if you must, but there… Read more »
@OWB. If you have made such sacrices for our country through you service, then… Thank you and God bless you.
You show just how idiotic you are using play on words to express yourself. Half-retarded cousin Ha. So he’s the smart one in the family obviously. You shouldn’t degrade your own family that way. As far as the “phobe” label, you can pick and choose for yourselves, you all seem to fit in the same glovebox. Making with all the not so witty replies, it’s quite apparent that you are sidetracking as usual. NO one answered SFJustice’s question. You can’t answer it can you? You have all participated in witch hunts, Dallas is the biggest thorn in your side. You can’t fight him (why would you want to in the first place), because he’s done nothing but tell the truth, something none of you seem to be able to handle. So he pounds his chest, and bangs his own drum; so what? In the first place what freaking business is it of yours to question anyone’s service record? If he were making false claims about himself (which we all know is not true as this half hearted confession eludes to sideways) he would be standing before the man; and that’s not happening. He gave you what you gave him, and then some. It seems you can dish it out but can’t take it. As SFJustice called it, when you attack fellow veterans (that proved to be legit after all) you lose all credibility. You point to Pownetwork and say “look at this, it’s proven he’s a poser”. Well we’ve seen just how reliable the information from that disgraced website has proven to be – ZERO. They along with the Mil-kooks like Jonn have played the cowboy game too long, and they are now up against the big guns. The heat is on and the rats are running. Both the Mil-kooks and Pownet have been proven to be less than honest in their condemn an innocent man game for fun, pure pleasure, and MONEY. You’ve dug your hole now you have to sleep in it. You think the Army is broken and have said such in your blogs. Well guess who… Read more »
Nah, he pretty much reacted like every other poser that disgraced us with their presence here. He threw a temper tantrum.
Mike Yawn, is that you? Silly guy.
SFJ,Dullass was thrown out of the special forces association. State your name and I will check with team sargent if you are for real. Better yet take your opinion of Dullass to the Special forces site then report their response to TAH. I am better than Dullas I(just like everyone here on TAH) because we do not embellish,lie or on this site. Joe
I dunno, SF, Lookit–his service was honorable, but his conduct since was not. Pretty clear-cut if you ask me.
And NO, you don’t get to use PTSD as an excuse for acting like an asshole. Doesn’t work that way.
Can’t steal valor? Man, the logic of this clique really gives me a headache. justlookatit numerous people have answered JF Justice’s question. And I will state the answer for you one last time: there are plenty of people here BETTER than DW. Just look at Jonn’s “saving the world one person at a time” posts such as the following:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=32147
Or any of the hundred daily readers of this blog that do not embellish their service, act like a buffoon, throw their service in everyone’s face unsolicited, or disparage a whole generation of those who are should be considered brethren; as DW has done to the Iraq and Afghan generation of vets numerous times. See here comment 270 for one example:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=29627#comment-638773
You said “what freaking business is it of yours to question anyone’s service record?”. You clearly are not a Veteran, and surely do not belong to this community. If you did you would be familiar with the term “on the spot correction”. We have always, and will always police our own. That is the bottom line.
Now please go away. Do you not realize the more you resurrect these threads about your man crush DW the more negative exposure he gets? Please collect your simple thoughts and move out smartly.
Seems to be a pattern here, people. Whipitnflogit finds some poor slob that he can talk into defending his asinine behavior because he cain’t get no posts toasties posted.
Then you guys respond in a reasonable way, like grown-ups, and you get the temper tantrum from the opposition and the pushing and shoving and pinching and gouging begin, and next thing you know, another one is down for the count.
This is making sippy seem downright civilized, despite those frequent feeble attempts to throw everyone off-course.
Next customer!
Hey, I found proof that there have been visitors to Mars other than Earth-people!
http://www.weather.com/news/something-odd-found-in-martian-dirt-20121019
Hondo keeps forgetting to mention that orders that were produced showing Dallas was awarded the SMOS of 11B2P, which also justifies his award of the CIB. You see Hondo, you and others spent so much time focusing on the MOS 05B, you missed the trees for the forest. I know some of the other names on that roster. There are clerks,supply sergeants, and other people on that roster who have primary MOS’ other than 05B. Hondo, you would agree that USARV Reg 672-1 makes no reference to any other MOS’ in the section that allows RTO’s to be awarded the CIB. You see as far as Major Heckman (D/151’s commander who signed the orders) and the D/151 chain of command was concerned, Wittgenfeld and every other swinging Richard on that award roster was awarded the CIB based on the fact that they serving in the duty position of an Infantryman and had been awarded the SMOS of an 11 series MOS. Still waiting for someone to show me where Wittgenfeld has ever worn a BSM/w V on his uniform (he hasn’t) or has ever publicly claimed he was awarded one (you can’t). As far as the media goes, I’ve yet to ever see the media do a story on the military and get it right. It’s laughable of how bad a job they do when they report anything to do with the military. They always get shit wrong – nomencalture, ranks, the correct designation of a given unit. All it took was one mixup by a reporter who referred to an award and a BSM for valor instead of an ARCOM for valor, and other reporters using the previous article for research also repeated the mistake and a circle was born. I had Silver Star recipient look at the now infamous photo of Wittgenfeld kneeling at the Wall and also said that the beret that Wittgenfeld was wearing looked black to him. It’s time you all apologized to Dallas Wittgenfeld. But we all know that none of you have the honor or have ever had the honor to such a… Read more »
Ramey: You forgot to include your ID info in comment 48 above. I fixed that for you. I didn’t ignore the SMOS orders, Ramey. If you look on the original thread about Wittgenfeld, I commented on the fact that I had seen proof that Wittgenfeld had an 11B2P SMOS. I also observed that the orders you posted proved you wrong on your contention that “Every enlisted LRRP/LRP/RANGER was awarded the MOS 11F2P/11F3P/11F4P” (that’s an exact quote). The comment I made that I’m referring to was made at 6:34AM EDT on 10 Oct 2012, and can be found here: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=29627#comment-683338 Your incorrect claim was made first here, a couple of days previously, and was repeated in several subsequent comments: http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=29627#comment-682446 The orders you originally posted clearly showed that only a very few relatively senior persons were awarded a SMOS of 11F. The vast majority were awarded SMOS 11B; Wittgenfeld was among the latter group. 11F and 11B are different MOS entirely; I’d have expected a “great historian” such as yourself to know that. So much for the “great historian’s” attention to detail. Kinda makes me wonder what else you’re wrong about. For what it’s worth: Wittgenfeld’s SMOS orders alone prove nothing. In order to qualify for the CIB under the DA regulations of the day, one needed to do four things simultaneously. For your benefit, Ramey, I’ll spell out those four things for you. Let me know if I need to spell out what “simultaneously” means also. 1. Hold an infantry MOS. 2. Be assigned to an infantry unit of brigade or smaller size. 3. Perform duties as an infantryman 4. Engage the enemy in ground combat while assigned to an infantry unit and performing duties as an infantryman. Without the O5B USAR-V exception, Wittgenfeld would still be SOL. His SMOS orders are dated 22 Oct 1969. His ARCOM/V action was 21 Oct 1969 – the day prior – so that action probably wouldn’t count. And in any case, his ARCOM/V citation clearly shows him performing duties as an RTO – not an infantryman. So even if Wittgenfeld’s 11B SMOS was… Read more »
See? I told you guys this would happen: You guys do realize, don’t you, that if DW is monitored and _______ also gets monitored, then DW will just find someone else to keep this worm alive?
I TOLD you. It’s like “Walking Dead”. It just won’t go away.
Timmah…I’ll apologize to Dallas when he apologizes to each and every person he’s insulted and threatened and harassed around here.
IOW…cold day in hell, shit like that. Now go back to your game of smiles with the Binny-boys.
They say shitbirds of a feather flock together.
Dullass and Pimp Daddy Timmy prove that saying true.