Former Supervisor-Vindman’s Firing Aimed to Humiliate

| February 12, 2020

Not long after President Trump was forever acquitted of the impeachment charges against him, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman received a different assignment. He was seen escorted from the White House.

Not long after his testimony in the House, information became available from one of Vindman’s superiors. One of the claims about him was that he put the US down in front of his subordinates and in front of Russian counterparts.

The media managed to find a former supervisor who didn’t have bad things to say about Alexander Vindman. According to this individual, Vindman was someone you could trust, and who did a good job. This supervisor served with Vindman at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow. This is in contrast to what President Trump said about him:

From Newsmax:

Trump, after dismissing Vindman on Friday, tweeted the next day:

He was very insubordinate, reported contents of my ‘perfect’ calls incorrectly, & was given a horrendous report by his superior, the man he reported to, who publicly stated that Vindman had problems with judgment, adhering to the chain of command and leaking information.

Done to humiliate? A reading of the transcripts was clear cut regarding President Trump’s innocence. An Army Officer, putting service before self, would’ve ignored political differences, and disagreements, and would have followed orders. While testifying, he should’ve stuck with the facts instead of injecting his speculation about what the President was doing.

Newsmax has more here:

Category: Army, Politics

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  1. Roh-Dog says:

    “…President Trump was forever acquitted of the impeachment charges against him…”
    Not if the Drinker of the House has her evil way.
    Der Communistas think it was all ‘illegitimate’ along with the election of DJT.
    …..
    Waiting for our fave Left coast Leftie to school me on how exactly.

    • Slow Joe says:

      They couldn’t impeach him on Russia, they couldn’t impeach him on Ukraine, now they will try to impeach him on Iran.

      They gonna come up with som’tin.

  2. Comm Center Rat says:

    After 20 years of service LTC Vindman has finally learned the meaning of HMFIC!!

  3. Green Thumb says:

    Vindman forgot to be a Soldier.

    And where in the hell is his MSM and BSM or even Defense Met, etc.?

  4. 5th/77th FA says:

    Dumbass. Hope the $ you made/gonna make selling out to the domestic enemies of our country are gonna be worth it. He will continue to be a useful idiot as Pukelosi and Co continue to destroy Trump and maintain their control on power. If Vidman is smart he will take his next assignment, do it to the best of his ability and keep his effing mouth shut. Or get the eff out, take his cnn msnbc gig. You don’t piss off the boss, whether you think you are right or not. It is not going to end well for you.

    And who’s this fool of a former CO? Just cause Vidman did his job effectively as a Major in Russia, for you, doesn’t mean his was a good LTC in the WH. Methinks the former CO may be an obamanite himself.

  5. AW1Ed says:

    At the end of the day…

    maga

  6. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    IMHO Vindman still looks like a puffy-cheeked peter puffer.

  7. Martinjmpr says:

    If you strike at the King, you better be successful.

    That rule is as old as civilization itself.

    • rgr769 says:

      Too bad the remedy from that rule isn’t applied any more.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Sire, me seemeth that Vindman fucketh himself!

      • Hondo says:

        Only slightly. Had the POTUS truly been vindictive and vengeful, it’s possible he could have been dismissed – UCMJ-style.

        I believe for UCMJ purposes we are still technically in a “time of war.” (I’m reasonably sure the courts have ruled that a formal declaration of war is not required for those UCMJ provisions regarding “time of war” to be effective.) If so, the POTUS literally could – with the stroke of a pen – have ordered this guy Dismissed, UCMJ-style. See 10 USC 1161(a)(3).

        Remember: in this context, “dismissal” is the officer equivalent of a Dishonorable Discharge.

        I’m reasonably certain that in such a case the dismissed officer has the right to demand trial by court-martial (though I’m having trouble finding that in the USC at present). Still: I don’t know too many people who’d like to bet their military retirement – and potentially their freedom as well – on the outcome of a court-martial.

    • AW1Ed says:

      https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=95332

      Rather like the graphic I found for this post.

  8. Devtun says:

    15 min is over. MSM is seeking the next uniformed never Trump shiny object. Tossed on the trash heap. Buh bye.

  9. OWB says:

    Any humiliation was self-inflicted. He insisted that we all laugh at him. He put himself into a position which left no alternative other than reassignment. We all saw him swear that his opinion was all that mattered, in spite of all of us and most sane civilians seeing otherwise.

    It would almost look as if that is exactly as it was planned.

  10. STSC(SW/SS) says:

    Should have stuck him with a brush and a bucket to clean shitters for the rest of his career.

  11. Mason says:

    He got reassigned. Big fucking deal. It happens. Especially when you are a screw up who goes outside his CoC and leaks information. How he made it this far is the question.

  12. Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman says:

    Send both Vindmans to Thule Air Base, Greenland to count the prop wash and keep the runway scraped clean.

    • rgr769 says:

      That was my immediate thought about where they should next be assigned, once I figured out their roles in the impeachment hoax. I like how they are both so brave they wouldn’t sign a fake whistleblower complaint themselves. They had to have second hand hearsay recipient Eric the Rat at CIA do that for them, the guy who had already been removed from the NSC over a year earlier for leaking.

  13. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    Place being a liberal political hack above everything else and look at what happens. He’s a candyassed liberal hack, thus his being held accountable to his actions makes him a “victim” of President trump in the eyes of the left.

    • Hack Stone says:

      Now just wait one gosh darn minute. Where do you get off trash talking Hacks? Have you ever been awarded a highly coveted yet rarely awarded National Defense Service Medal, not once but twice? Probably. But how many times have you earned a Precious Metals Recovery Expert Badge?

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        I see you that and raise you an Expert Floor Buffer Operator Badge!

        • Hack Stone says:

          With these prestigious awards, we should throw our cowboy hats into that election down in The Lone Star State. Unfortunately, Hack’s dog ate the part of his DD-214 that listed the Precious Metals Recovery Expert Badge being awarded to him.

          • You guys got nuthin’ I am the recipient of the USAF scrounger achievement medal, marksman ribbon for shooting xpert at 75ft with cherry rivets using a 300psi compressor using a 3ft aluminum 1/8 tube. I feel robbed my DD214 makes no mention of this.

  14. USMC Steve says:

    Why do I see a lot of der commissar in this dirtbag?

  15. tommer says:

    I can’t for the life of me understand how these people get security clearances. How they keep them is another question.

  16. Sparks says:

    This guy has a lot of chins. How does he meet tape? Does he get a pass on the annual PT eval?

    • Hondo says:

      He might pass both legitimately, Sparks. I served in Korea with a guy who was about 6′ 3″ and at first glance appeared about as hefty as Vindman above. Looking at him, you’d swear he could pass neither PT test or height/weight standards.

      He passed tape each year – and had zero trouble with the PT test. He could hold about a 6:30 per mile pace for 10kM (6.2 miles).

  17. NHSparky says:

    Fuck that chow thief.

    I saw David Bellavia’s video and commentary re: Leroy Petry’s appearance on F&F the other day.

    I still laugh my ass off every time I think about it. Just wish I could link it here.

  18. JustALurkinAround says:

    WE BELIEVE YOU, DR. FORD!!!!!!!

    Sorry, wrong Patriot.

    I’m glad the Democrats found the only guy who served in Iraq without engaging in the atrocities they accused the rest of us of committing. Vindman doesn’t know what he missed. Chow, patrol, rape, chow, sleep, patrol, murder THEN rape, chow, and so on….

    So glad SEN. John Kerry, who, if you didn’t know happened to serve in Viet Nam, called us out on such malfeasance. .

  19. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    I was reading somewhere that folks were applauding as he was walked out.

    If true, that would tend to leave a mark.

    If you are going to publicly accuse someone of heinous behavior, don’t expect the vindicated formerly-accused to just shrug.

  20. HT3 '83-'87 says:

    Part of my uneasiness about Vindman is he is a Ukrainian by birth. Even though he’s a US Citizen & officer in the US Army, his actions to make it like he was “acting on what he thought the best action for Ukraine” instead following the direction of the US’s Ukraine policy.
    I get a guy like this might have some insight on his country of birth, but my fear would be his loyalties might be divided. As a matter of policy, naturalized citizens shouldn’t be “too close” to the country of their birth while being a member our country’s foreign policy apparatus.
    He was offered the Defense Minister of Ukraine 3 times…once might have been a “joke” like he said…3 times means they thought his think his their “guy”.

    • Mason says:

      Yeah, that whole part about him being asked to be their Defense Minister was really glossed over by the media here. Enticement to a position like that would certainly seem like it could compromise his judgement.

      Just like when people leave major defense contractors and then become political appointees in the defense department. It’s too rife with potential (and in the case of our DoD actual) fraud, graft, and self-enrichment.

  21. rgr769 says:

    This “Vindman was cruelly humiliated” campaign is all a scripted PR stunt from the D-rats and their Orange Man Bad fellow travelers. I watched a very slick TV ad yesterday whining about Vindman’s treatment and that he is the second coming of Audie Murphy. The propagandists must have started making it even before the Traitor Twins were reassigned and left the White House.

  22. RetiredDevilDoc8404 says:

    LTC Chow Thief and his brother should be assigned as the housing officer and morale officer on Johnston Island. That would keep them out of mischief, the round Ranger can work on losing the Michelin Man physique and they can scrub the seagull crap off the runways for entertainment. Maybe then the idea that it’s time to call it a career will occur to them.

    • rgr769 says:

      That would be an excellent assignment for them. The non-lawer brother could take the SCUBA course and claim his diver bubble just like Ol’ Brownstain Brown. LTC Chow Thief does appear to be somewhat of a badge hunter. Maybe he could ultimately retire to Elko; although, I imagine their chili will not measure up to his refined Euro-pussy palate.

  23. IDC SARC says:

    fukk that chain jumping bag nasty boot likker

    • rgr1480 says:

      @IDC SARC:

      Good to see you back! Sure miss your “I’d hit it!” comments.

      Finish your (PhD?) dissertation?

      • IDC SARC says:

        Busy AF, still working on the PhD and other things since my employer offers tuition assistance. The opportunities this country presents never ceases to amaze me. Now if only I could get more hours in the day. 🙂

  24. Veritas Omnia Vincit says:

    Vindman made his play, it didn’t work as he had hoped and consequently his Commander in Chief no longer has confidence in the idea that Vindman and he share the same vision for the nation and it’s foreign policy objectives.

    As a consequence of that unshared vision Vindman was re-assigned to his previous desk.

    When your job involves serving at the pleasure of the president when you displease the president you have to some kind of moron to think anyone owes you a continued presence in the oval office inner circle.

    If Vindman didn’t like what was happening he could have taken the honorable way out and resigned in protest asking to be re-assigned to his former position or he could have refused it in the first place.

    He chose a different path, and now other choices have been made for him. That’s no different than the civilian world. If one of our employees gets caught talking shit about the company they don’t get to stay here forever, if you don’t want to be part of the team we help you find your way to the fucking door and wish you the best in whatever you decide to do next.

    Stop whining Vindman and sack the fuck up soldier, you and you alone are responsible for where you are today.

    • rgr769 says:

      Uh, from what I have seen of what he as done over the past ten years, I wouldn’t call him “soldier.” Apparently, his testimony in Congress is the only time he has worn a uniform in about eight years. At the NSC his duty attire was civvies. I doubt he ran round Moscow in a uniform as well. He is certainly wearing his blues in that slick hate-Trump TV ad I saw a couple of days ago.