Ron DaRonche – Another Elko NV Phony CIB

| August 26, 2019

The folks at Military Phony send us their work on Ronald “Vito” DaRonche, who is another POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association partner of Les Brown.

In fact, DaRonche was listed as the Senior Vice Commander under Les Brown when the organization was first formed and created a website.

DaRonche claims he is a twenty-five (25) year Army veteran…

Like Les Brown, Ron DaRonche wears a Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB)…

Here are the photos placed side-by-side for comparison…

Ron also has some postings around the internet that suggest he was in Vietnam and with the 511th Military Intelligence Company.

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request was made for DaRonche’s records…

We also came across this when searching for his records…

SUMMARY

DaRonche got out as a Sgt (E-5) but there were no rank claims in question.

DaRonche served in Vietnam but that claim was also not in question.

DaRonche served his country in Vietnam and that is saying a lot. Many people avoided service in Vietnam so to answer the call is worthy of anyone’s respect.

However…

The years listed in DaRonche’s official military records add up to just shy of eleven (11) years. They don’t add up to the twenty-five (25) year Army veteran that DaRonche claimed in the newspaper article.

DaRonche does not have the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB) listed under his awards and he does not have the medals or assignments that would support his claim of being in infantry.

DaRonche does not have awards or medals suggesting that he was mobilized for Operation Desert Shield/Storm that possibly would have earned him the CIB. He was in Military Intelligence as an Ariel (sic) Photographer and later in the National Guard/Reserve in an Engineering unit as a vehicle driver.

These are all extremely noble duties in the military but the point is they were not infantry and therefore would not put DaRonche in line to have been awarded the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB).

Members of the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association have suggested that they somehow wear these military awards to honor those that have served vs. an accurate depiction of their own service.

“They talk about things we wear on our vests that we didn’t earn. Well, we all wear something on our vests that we didn’t earn.”

— Les Brown —

SOURCE: https://elkodaily.com/news/local/local-head-of-pow-mia-under-fire/article_195a40c4-ee66-5db5-b5bc-7885b33384ac.html

If Ron DaRonche used these claims to gain anything of value he could be in violation of Stolen Valor laws. State laws may also apply.

Due to the shenanigans of Les Brown, combined with Brown’s refusal to come clean about his unearned CIB, DaRonche has Brown to thank for bringing sunshine to his situation as well. Not only that, but we wonder about people in that entire organization since they don’t seem to place much emphasis on accurate representation of their military service.

Stated another way – gross, incompetent and intentional misrepresentation.

Category: Army Poser, National Guard, Phony soldiers, Stolen Valor, Stolen Valor Act, Valor Vultures, Vietnam

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Mustaang Major

You can thank Les and yourself for this Ron!

Daisy Cutter

Is that pronounced… ?

Dah Ron-Shay (French sounding)

or

Duh Raunchy (Southern draw)

Graybeard

I’m goin’ with the Southern drawl pronunciation.

We got Les the Brown Stain and Ron Duh Raunchy – something is wrong in that AO.

26Limabeans

The Ronettes (as well as others)

I met him on a Monday and my heart stood still
Da do ron-ron-ron, da do ron-ron
Somebody told me that his name was Ron
Da doo ron-ron-ron, da do ron-ron

Yeah, my heart stood still
Yes, his name was Ron
And when he walked me home
Da doo ron-ron-ron, da doo ron-ron

I knew what he was doing when he caught my eye
Da do ron-ron-ron, da do ron-ron
He looked so quiet but my oh my
Da doo ron-ron-ron, da doo ron-ron

Yeah, he caught my eye
Yes, oh my, oh my
And when he walked me home
Da doo ron-ron-ron, da doo ron-ron

He picked me up at seven and he looked so fine
Da do ron-ron-ron, da do ron-ron
Someday soon I’m gonna make him mine
Da do ron-ron-ron, da doo ron-ron

Yeah, he looked so fine,
Yes, I’ll make him mine
And when he walked me home
Da doo ron-ron-ron, da doo ron-ron

USMCMSgt (Ret)

Cocksucker.

A Proud Infidel®™️

la-
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

Shack.

marinedad61

That’s Retired Lieutenant Colonel Cocksucker to you!

Elko POW*MIA collateral damage continues.

Too bad the CURRENT members
of the Elko POW*MIA Awareness Association
did not see the value
in getting LES BROWN to tell the TRUTH.

Perhaps the Elko POW*MIA
will NOW get Les Brown to come out from the shadows,
and publicly come clean.

5th/77th FA

Let me be the FIRST to welcome you to the spotlight there Ronald Eugene DaRonche! How is your partner in lies, Lying Lester Kent Brown (stain)? You can thank him for us. We like to raise our awareness of lying, embellishing scum.

You had what appeared to be honorable service that you could be proud of. Get ready to take a big bite of the sh^t sundae that you help make us aware of.

Toilet Bowl of Taunts, anyone?

OWB

Oh, goody. Another lying PoS.

What IS the deal? My military service was just fine. It wasn’t spectacular, but good enough for a nice retirement check. And a few minor accolades along the way. No CIB, no MoH, and no Purple Heart. (For those last two, I am very grateful for never being in a situation where one might have been earned.)

This clown was in long enough to understand that lying about his military service brings into question just how honorable his service was. Bad. Very, very bad.

Are criminal charges perhaps on the horizon? Those two have more than earned THAT recognition.

Comm Center Rat

“You talk about things that nobody cares
You’re wearing out things that nobody wears”
~ Sweet Emotion by Aerosmith, 1975

There’s a lot of things to hate about Daronche, but what pisses me off the most is his claim to be “retired” military with 25 years of service. Him and Les Brown (stain) are blue falcons of the same feather.

Ret_25X

Ooh, Ronnie Blew (it)
Lives his life from inside of his vest
Hides the truth when he’s living his lie
Ooh, Ronnie you’re some kind of clown
You like your life in a truth free style
You’ll lie an inch but you’d love a mile
There never seems to be quite enough
Floating around to fill your beggin cup
Ooh, Ronnie Blew
What’s a game boy, if you always lose?
Ask a winner and you’ll probably find
Ooh, Ronnie they’re honest most times
Don’t try to tell me that you’re not aware
Of what you’re doing and that you don’t care
You say it’s easy, just a natural thing
Like wearing medals, that you never earn
Ooh, Ronnie Blew
Making wishes that never come true
Going places that you’ve never been
Ooh, Ronnie, you’re going again
Ooh, Ronnie Blew
Lives a dream that can never come true
Faking valor is like sifting through sand
Ooh, Ronnie, it slips through your hand
Every day, in your bullshitting eyes
I watch the sunset but I don’t see it rise
Moonlight and stars in your strawberry wine
You’d tell the world but you won’t tell the truth
Ooh-hoo-hoo, Ronnie Blew
Lives his life from inside of a vest
Makes you think that he’s a heroic man
Ooh Ronnie, what a tool you’ve become
Ooh, Ronnie
Ooh, Ronnie
Ooh, Ronnie
Ooh, Ronnie
Lies, lies, lies, lies

Ret_25X

based on “Jackie Blue” by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils

Anonymous

Truth stretching… like his saying his small willie is 10 inches.

A Proud Infidel®™️

HEY Ronald Eugene DaRonche, THE INTERNET IS FOREVER, enjoy!

Bim

Well, at least this guy made it to SGT.

Terry Sheehan

He also has what appears to be a LTC rank in his official POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association page.

What really gets me is at some point they should decide that their inappropriate use of unapproved false rank and wearing other unearned bling is a DISTRACTION to the efforts they are sworn to support. Has that even dawned on them?

Or…

Does their strange NEED to wear unearned bling override a distraction to the mission? It appears so.

There is nothing honorable about wearing unearned rank and badges.

Martinjmpr

Depends on what you mean by “mission.” If the “mission” is to “raise awareness of POWs” or some such nebulous thing, then the bling might indeed be a distraction.

But if the actual “mission” of the organization is to serve as a place where fakers, liars and embellishers can have a circle-jerk where the unspoken rule is that “you accept my BS stories and I’ll accept your” then the bling is probably part and parcel of the organization.

Since they apparently “repurpose” actual military rank insignia to show their position within the group (like former SP/4 Brown wearing a COL’s eagle to show that he’s the grand poobah) I wonder how long it will be before they tell us that they do the same with awards like the CIB.

“No that CIB isn’t a false claim of a military award, it just means he sold the most Girl Scout cookies last year.”

marinedad61

“We won’t stop riding (and raising funds)
until we (insert cause from list).”

“Nebulous thing”
reasons / excuses / missions / causes
for riding in Harley convoys…

Partial List
————
Account for 100% POW*MIA
Eliminate Breast Cancer
Eliminate Children Cancer
Find all Missing Children

It’s apparently a great thing to find / exploit a cause that will NEVER end, and use that as a reason / excuse / mission / cause to perpetually ride your Harley in a crowd (and wear a badass blingy black leather vest).

For the Elko POW*MIA,
the critical error was unifying…
Protect Les Brown! For the cause!!!!!
Bad mistake.

Sj

E5 – O5. Close enough for government work.

Keepin' It Real

He was a photographer for Military Intel in Vietnam – a profession that depended on truthfulness and integrity of information to make an informed decision. Once caught in a lie, how could someone trust him with anything he is saying?

“Well, it depends on the situation. I mean, I’m here to take combat photos but if the shit gets too thick, I mean… I’ll go to the rifle.” — Rafterman/Full Metal Jacket —

https://youtu.be/A4BuQMJEKHw?t=141

Ex-PH2

He says what he did was “classified”.

Ain’t no more classified stuff about Viet of the Nam Times, idiot stick!!! Even the CIA’s junk is declassed now. You can get access to it online, you moron.

He can be “classified” as a walrus-stached, balderdashing twatwaffle.

ninja

Interesting comment from Ron DaRonche in response to an article from a magazine “Cannabis Now”

Article is: “Weed for Warrior Project Provides Support For Veterans” dated 11 July 2016.

https://cannabisnow.com/weed-warriors-supports-veterans/

When one scrolls to the bottom of the linked article, one will find 5 comments.

Ron’s comment is the fifth comment:

“Ron DaRonche July 12, 2016 at 8:12 pm”

“Ive been using weed since my return from Vietnam.its saved me never missed work.now retired still burnin
Wish it was legal”

is this the same Ron DaRonche from Elko, Nevada who returned from Vietnam in late 1971? Medical Marijuana became legal in 2001. Recreational use of marijuana in Nevada became legal in 2017.

Obviously, Ron was not using it for medical purposes since he stated in 2016 “Wish it was legal.”

44 years of using marijuana illegally.

Guess the Reserves and the National Guard did not use “Hot Urine” tests on their Soldiers during the timeframe Ron served with them after leaving active duty(sarc).

Makes one wonder what is in the air and drinking water as well as in the mines in Elko, Nevada.

Bim

Well, In June of 1952 oue government did fire off a 15KT nuke near Elko. Apparently, the fallout landed in town. Not saying it’s related, BUT…

That blast is also famous for the scientist who used a parabolic mirror to focus the initial flash enough to ignite the tip of his cigarette and create the worlds first nuclear powered cigarette lighter. http://awesci.com/nuclear-bomb-cigarette-lighter/

Bim

Ahem. “our”. Bim sends his regrets.

Hondo

Guess the Reserves and the National Guard did not use “Hot Urine” tests on their Soldiers during the timeframe Ron served with them after leaving active duty(sarc).

Perhaps they did. Note the last entry on LaRonche’s USAR record of assignments regarding his discharge. It doesn’t appear to have the characterization of discharge redacted – and that entry doesn’t contain the phrase “Honorable Discharge”.

marinedad61

Is “GENERAL DISCHARGE ORDERS”
a universal line entry for all discharges,
OR
did he get a “General Discharge”???

Yes, a hot piss test would be a General Discharge,
but I am unsure if that’s the case here.

Hondo

From what I’ve seen, no. On an Army record of assignments from that era, when present the discharge line typically states the type of discharge received outright; i.e., “General Discharge”, “Honorable Discharge”, etc . . . . The “orders” portion in such a line typically references the specific order directing the discharge; that part isn’t always present.

My guess would be some form of General Discharge for cause – IMO most likely for either non-participation or p!ssing hot. But I could be wrong.

FWIW: he was discharged during the 6 mo period immediately following the first Gulf War. If I recall correctly, there was a move in the USAR and ARNG to “cull deadwood” for a while after the Gulf War. But that was nearly 30 years ago, and my memory could be in error about that last point.

marinedad61

Our PAARNG “fat boys” were all gone by December 1991.
If that helps.

C2Show

They knew the day was coming….

Cant hide forever.

C2Show

hides forever. Theay good stuff splitting between calling hi km DaRonche and LaRonche lol.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Whatever happened to Phony Navy Seal Mondays???

5th/77th FA

As so it happens every December, Army is beating Navy!

Tho there is no joy in these Stolen Valor Victories.

Somebody with Faque Booque (ht to marinedad61) needs to drop by Duh Ranchy’s 3rd page and leave him some love. All three pages are wide open as of now. I can only lurk.

marinedad61

2 (of 3) Ron DaRonche Faque Booque pages
have already been hit (hard) today.

Not by me.
I’m a few hours late to the game (again).
But it’s nice to see happen so quickly.

marinedad61

Here, I’ll provide one. After all, it’s Monday.
Never in the news, or on TV.
Just a Navy Veteran who used a
phony bedroom wall shrine to himself, and a
FAKE DD-214
to CON WOMEN.
He tried to infiltrate MY family.
It wasn’t the 1st time he was caught.
He was caught before, by an ex wife,
and he tried it AGAIN.
Ugh.

Steven Joseph Zahuranec (Sr.)
Steve Zahuranec
Stolen Valor Phony Navy SEAL
in Pennsylvania.

(internet gif, comes up on Google searches now)
https://gfycat.com/neglectedindolentbird

26Limabeans

The phony Seals have agreed to stand down
while the Brown Stain is being cleaned up
in ailes 1 thru 5.
They appreciate the respite.

Chase

Unfortunately, I think Ronald is going to hide behind the Laura Adams “official” statement and run silent like Les Brown. They have absolutely no regard for their fellow veterans or honor, which makes their organization all the more ironic.

I KNEW I should have bought popcorn stick when it was available.

Chase

Dammit, autocorrect – “stock”.

Skyjumper

Chase, there is such a thing as “popcorn on a stick”. Here’s a recipe.

Also, there are many other food items on a stick.
Fried pickles, donut holes, alligator, burgers, ….in fact, here’s even a jalapeno “on a steeeeeck”. (grin)

Chase

Skyjumper, as long as it’s not a Brown Stain on a steek! I have my standards, y’know…

Daisy Cutter

I can’t tell for sure, but it appears Les Brown may have changed his photo on the official Elko POW*MIA Awareness page.

It looks blurry… more than the last one. No CIB or E-8 rank. I wonder if he got the message?

http://www.elkonvpowmia.org/board.html

Can anyone confirm via an earlier photo?

ninja

Daisy Cutter:

I noticed the same thing.

What a COWARD.

Also wonder what the Elko Police Department and the Sheriff’s office are now thinking of Vito’s illegal use of Mary Jane for the past 40 years? Or do they turn a blind eye on that one as well?

Has the Mayor of Elko, Nevada been notified of all these shenanigans or is he part of the Wagon Wheel as well?

No telling what else is going on in Elko, Nevada.

What a way to impress and set an example for the young people of Elko, Nevada. Leadership is sending a message to them that it is OK to embellish or lie, and when one is caught, to cover up the deceits by using enablers or alternating photos or deleting photos.

Leadership is also embracing that it is OK to break a law, whether it be STOLEN VALOR or illegal use of Mary Jane.

I feel so sorry for those young folks. Brainwashing at its best.

Lester Kent Brown of Elko, Nevada is not a Man. He is not a SOLDIER. He is a COWARD, a Narcisstic COWARD who will never admit he is wrong, because he does not want the humilation and embarrassment of being caught.

The same applies to his Enablers.

How can Lester Kent Brown, a Court Baliff, ask someone in Court “Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God”

So sad for those young folks of Elko, Nevada.

Daisy Cutter

The following were either notified via email or specifically given huge packages of information:

* Nevada AG – Package

* Elko DA – Multiple files via email (Elko DA was supposed to decide between the Elko Sheriff, Elko PD or Carlin PD)

* Carlin PD – Supplied multiple files

* Elko Sheriff’s Dept – See above

* Elko PD – See above

* Elko Daily Free Press – ’nuff said

* Lee Publications/Lee Enterprises – Parent Company of Elko Daily Free Press was notified

* Other media outlets outside Elko were notified

* Elko Mayor – Notified via emails

Wilted Willy

I wish somebody would do all that to my pos brother who has claimed way more than this asshole!

marinedad61

I’ve actually got some microwave popcorn here.
I’m also stocked up with ranch chicken wings, Popeye’s mild tenders, and frozen butterfly shrimp.

I put on weight every time Elko, NV strikes again.
Ugh.
lolol

26Limabeans

Figures, hiding behind a womans skirt.

Keepin' It Real

“Da Raunchy” (Sung to “Candy Shop”)

I’ll take Les to the Elko candy shop
I’ll let Ron lick the lollipop
Go ‘head guys, don’t you stop
Keep going ’til you hit the spot (woah)

Da Raunchy … Do Da Dup Dop
Da Raunchy —

Mason

This Elko POW/MIA group is becoming a bottomLES pit of embellishment.

Terry Sheehan

Elko POW*MIA group – “The Hive”

5th/77th FA

Resistance to the new BorgBQ Flavored Chilli is futile…You WILL be assimilated.

A Proud Infidel®™️

Like a satellite of the Dutch Rudder Gang!

HMCS(FMF) ret

They love to DORK that STOLEN VALOR SQUEAKHOLE!

Hack Stone

Well, if their mission is to raise awareness about military embellishers, mission accomplished.

3/17 Air Cav

Everyone wants that CIB, they just don’t want to do all that infantry shit!
Like we used to say: “everyone wants to dress like us talk like us just not be with us”

Wearing that CIB really pisses me Off!

Total Shitbird!

Sj

Hey 3/17! Long time no see.

Green Thumb

Word.

Green Thumb

Seem like All-Points Logistics need to go ahead and open a branch in Elko.

ninja

Don’t forget, folks, that 20 September 2019 is National POW/MIA Recognition Day!

Lester than a month away!

Can’t WAIT to read Elko, Nevada’s Daily Free Press on covering that special day!

Can’t WAIT to read the Elko, Nevada POW/MIA Awareness Association (AKA “Bike Club”) coverage of this on their FACEBOOK!

Can’t WAIT to see pictures of this important day for Elko, Nevada!

🎶”It’s The Final Countdown”🎶

*WARNING TO THE FOLKS OF ELKO, NEVADA: Ron DaRonche may be spicing the Chili with his Mary Jane.

marinedad61

Elko County Fair THIS weekend.

3 days.
Friday, August 30,
Saturday, August 31,
Sunday, September 1.

Should be fun. For us.

http://www.elkonvpowmia.org/upcom.html

marinedad61

Also, NEW photo of Les Brown and Tom Wulf.
August 24.

[Officers being sworn in.
Les Brown- Director
Ken Adams- Sergeant at Arms.
Rich Dyer will be sworn in at a later date as Treasurer.]

ALL RE-ELECTED.

Les Brown is STILL wearing the Desert Storm Veteran patch with 4 ribbons.

Oh, Carlin Cop John Rowe
is among those who clicked “Like”
on this Les Brown re-election swearing in photo.
Does he not realize where this all ends?

https://www.facebook.com/106848159338009/photos/a.756908037665348/2520333851322749/?type=3&theater

Daisy Cutter

Notice that the CIB has been removed and the dog tag is covering up the “DESERT STORM VETERAN” patch.

He still has the US ARMY RETIRED seal on the bottom.

Probably wanted to render the photo unusable for pointing to.

ninja

The most difficult part for me to comprehend is that the Elko, Nevada POW/MIA AWARENESS ASSOCIATION has a CHAPLAIN who wears a Christian Cross on his Vest.

I don’t get it. I simply don’t get it.

What is his purpose?

“The greatest single cause of Atheism in the World today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.”

-Brennan Manning

Keepin' It Real

innkeeper

Keepin' It Real

[speculation]
According to the Elko POW*MIA logic — wearing of that cross does not mean he is a Christian, it just means he is wearing it in honor of Christians.
[/speculation]

Keepin' It Real

Speaking of which – I was thinking about making some POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association ballcaps, t-shirts and badges.

It’s not stealing valor – it is wearing it in honor of those in the association.

Elko is a trademark-free zone.

Keepin' It Real

Response has been overwhelming for the ball cap.

As it stands now, people want a YELLOW ball cap with the following inscription:

“POW*MIA ELKO AWARENESS ASSOCIATION”
“WHERE FICTION MAKES TRUTH ITS BITCH”

5th/77th FA

“WHERE FRICTION MAKES IT A BITCH”…. TRUTH!!!!!

FIFY

Comm Center Rat

“Preach the Gospel at all times, and if necessary use words.” ~ Attributed to St. Francis of Assisi

Skyjumper

Just checked the distance from Area 51 to Elko………turns out that Area 51 is 343 miles away.

Got me to wondering. Are some of the Elko POW/MIA biker hierarchy actually alien probe victims that were relocated by the government?

Maybe they were probed too deeply that their brains were affected and that is why they don’t see the error of their ways? Not scientific, just a thought. (smile)

Also, I noted that Sgt. DaRaunchy was given a “General Discharge”. Hmmmmmmmmm.

“A General military discharge is a form of administrative discharge. If a service member’s performance is satisfactory but the individual failed to meet all expectations of conduct for military members, the discharge is considered a General Discharge, Under Honorable Conditions.”

Roh-Dog

The CIB ain’t a morale patch, it’s earned, often in the hardest of ways.
Just stop with the bullshit already.
Signed,
A pissed off Infantry Dude

OldManchu

Oh no you have it all wrong… he certainly needs to remove the rifle with the wreath on it, but make not mistake. He DOES have a CIB….

Cock In Butt

Ex-PH2

So what you’re saying, Roh-Dog, is that it does NOT mean Cigars-Included-Benefit?

Roh-Dog

Both of you will get into PTs, grab a 5 gallon water can, full, and meet me in the low ground behind Battalion.

Move!

(Obviously kidding. Just got out of work, no joy here at Fort Poopypants)

Retired Grunt

Roh dog… much respect…. I will tell you exactly what I did to earn my CIB I saw 4 people inching their way into a Valley they had AK 47’s I was on the top of the Hill, the military crsr, in charge of 7 people I was in the perfect ambush position my friend had just gotten killed less than 2 km away This is exactly what I did to earn my CIB I said open fire and with that I took four people’s lives….

Retired Grunt

I have a beautiful blue and silver badge that I can wear anywhere because I said 2 words Don’t get me wrong all of my fellow infantry and sf brothers… There had been thousands upon thousands of people that have really earned that badge I just question why I got one. All I said was 2 words And I “earned” a CIB….

Retired Grunt

When I was a 17 or 18 year old private it was the only thing I could think about earning that badge I’m 47 years old now and God-bless anybody who can come take it. I don’t want it I don’t need it…. What I need is for my daughter to tell me that she loves me what I need is that my son says hes proud of me it’s really funny how things change. How many of you remember when you were 17 or 18 or even 20 God we had great ideas didn’t we????

ninja

Yep, Lester Kent Brown and Ronald Eugene DaRonche both sport the CIB.

Actually, they should be wearing a CEB, a Yellow Badge that stands for “COWARD EMBELLISHER BADGE”, with Pinochio replacing the rifle surrounded by a reef made of hay from a horse’s stall stuck on to the badge with horse manure.

Any interested artists out there?😉🙄😁

rgr769

I would substitute bull manure for that horse shit.

3/10/MED/b

He does have the Utah National Guard Basic Training Ribbon.

I had to read that 3 times, to make sure my eyes weren’t failing me.

Comm Center Rat

You’d think the highly coveted NDSM paired with the prestigious Utah National Guard Basic Training Ribbon would be enough to impress school children and increase “awareness” of POW MIA issues.

Mikw

They have to sandwich the coveted Army Service Ribbon…..

Mike

I may have hit ‘report” instead of “reply” on my last send. It was unintentional. My apologies.

Have to sandwich the Army Service Ribbon in there….

Retired Grunt

I officially award my CIB to somebody else. Its just a piece of metal now…. Nobody in my family knows what it is and I’m actually kind of thankful for that. The day that I got the orders saying I could wear it I was smiling from ear to ear now it just doesn’t it can’t make up for…..It’s just a little piece of metal on my I love myself wall..

Roh-Dog

It means something to the Brotherhood, “We few, we happy few…”
I ain’t ready to yield that ground by a stretch.

rgr1480

Just a slight correction to Dave’s excellent article:

Combat Infantryman Badge

No possessive “s” after Infantryman.

Nope, I ain’t got one but wish I had — my grandfather and father each have one. All I got was the “CIB-With-Blank_Adapter” [i.e., Expert Infantryman Badge].

Retired Grunt

You can have mine….

rgr1480

Thanks, but that’s not the same as earning one.

Stacy0311

Question about these douchenozzles who wear awards that they are not entitled to claiming that they are “honoring” those who did earn them: Does this mean since I served with 1/5 and 3/5 I should wear that big ribbon stack that they have outside of 5th Marines HQ as a way to “honor” all the Marines who served with 5th Marines? Or should I go with a 1st MarDiv stack?

ninja

Just a personal perception and opinion:

Even though Ronald Eugene DaRonche’s FOIA has him discharged as a SGT/E5, there is a possibility that the clerk at the NRPC made a mistake and that DaRonche was discharged as a SPC/E4.

DaRonche even referred himself as “SPC Ronald DaRonche” in this linked article:

https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/what-do-the-spn-codes-on-our-dd-214-mean

Am aware he filled a 12B30 Level position, but who knows with him having a General Discharge, he might have been demoted or never earned the Buck SGT Stripes while serving in the Utah National Guard.

Comm Center Rat

FWIW There are two DaRonche’s in the US Army White Pages and each are identified as a “Veteran” in the rank of “Specialist.”

A third DaRonche is a female “Retired” “Sergeant.”

Mike

He might have had “Acting Jack” orders appointing him an acting sergeant at some point. It was pretty common for units to do it with SP4’s filling E-5 MTOE slots back in my day. They wore the stripes, but didn’t get paid the grade.

Retired Grunt

I joined in 1989….. I have never heard of or seen an, “ACTING JACK”…. hell, it was hard enough to actually become a corporal. (Vs.. spec4) We had DA corporals and unit corporals, no acting Jack’s, lol…

Ret_25X

when I joined in 86 the acting jacks were being promoted as were the last of the SP5s.

I never met one, but new some SGTs and SSGs who had been AJs in their past.

Mike

I pre-date you by about a decade (joined in ’78). I had an AJ in my platoon in A 2/12 Cav and later again a A 1/3 Inf (TOG). The latter got pissed off during EIB testing, made an ass of himself and found himself a SP4 the next day…

BTW, they administratively promoted all the Sp4s and below to SP5/E5 in my OCS class for pay purposes.

Mustang Major

SP/5? That used to be a rank, and a SP/5 was addressed and referred to as “Specialist” I don’t know when the rank went away.

ninja

Mustang Major:

You are correct that Specialist Five was a Rank.

I think it phased out in the Mid 1980s. I remember seeing Soldiers wearing Specialist 6/7 Stripes on their uniforms.

I still have my Specialist Five Rank, sewn on and pin on.

Sj

I remember this.

marinedad61

Mid 80s.
Referred to as Spec 5 and Spec 6.
E-4 was referred to as Specialist.

1 of our (converted) Gulf War SSgt
brought his old Spec6 rank along.
He liked sticking the Spec6 rank pins
on both sides of his (floppy) boonie cap.

26Limabeans

I wonder how it was done away with.
Did they just let it expire by attrition
or did they at some point hand out
SGT stripes to the current Spec 5’s?

Ret_25X

The Spec/5s were given hard stripes…there was some sort of sequence to it by date of rank.

The last one in 2/502 INF was a medic who was laterally appointed to Sergeant in March of 1987.

All I can say is that hard striping the Specialists has been a problem for the Army that has not aged well. Now you have thousands of technical or admin personnel wearing hard stripes but with no actual NCO duties or abilities. Of course, they still want to hold the positions like squad leader, platoon sergeant, etc.

There are no words to describe a 1SG who should never have been a Sergeant.

26Limabeans

Tanks Ret_25X.
I DEROSED as a Specialist 5 and often wondered what would happen should I reup
later. One would think the Specialist should
at least take some additional training before
the swap but one would be wrong.

26Limabeans

“a 1SG who should never have been a Sergeant”

1st Specialist?

3/10/MED/b

“1st Specialist”?
Does an ARCOM come with that?

Perry Gaskill

There are some strange aspects to DaRonche’s DD-214. He apparently served almost two years active duty as a 97D Military Intelligence Coordinator before going active reserve in 1971. Why this is unusual is because two-year active enlistments at that time were almost always draftee; reserves, on the other hand, typically served six months which included basic training and AIT.

An MI MOS also normally required a higher-level security clearance not given to draftees because of the time and expense involved for the background check. According to DaRonche’s DD-214 record, he was assigned to the 575th MI Detachment which was apparently located in Vietnam’s III Corps and supported the 9th Infantry Division. Most of the 9th ID operations were in the Mekong Delta and included working with Navy riverine units. The 575th MI Detachment apparently had a focus on both Saigon proper and an area of the delta near the city called the Rung Sat Special Zone.

As a 97 Delta, DaRonche might have been responsible for gathering together various intelligence sources in a process called Order-of-Battle Intelligence (OBI). One of the results of OBI that those who were in field units might be familiar with were tactical maps showing arrayed forces, both ours and those of the enemy, with those cryptic rectangles indicating unit strength, type, and location.

I’m not sure why DaRonche might feel the need to inflate his military record. If he was doing his job well in RVN he could have helped more than a few grunts avoid having a very bad day.

Claw

Couple of things:

Perry, not trying to pick nits, but the time period for Vito’s Active Duty was from 12 Jan 69 to 20 Dec 71 (2 years, 11 months, 8 days), as La Douche did an 18 month tour in Germany before ever reporting for duty in RVN..

The 575th MI Det was garrisoned at MACV HQs (Pentagon East) right there on Tan Son Nhut Air Base. So, Yeah, Vito (La Douche) Da Raunchy was stationed where there were air-conditioned concrete two or three story barracks, with hot showers and round-eye girls on demand, swimming pools and flush toilets. That was the kind of place where other troops went for mid tour In-Country R&R after taking whore’s baths in river water and trying to sleep at night in a grunt hole for their first six months./s

Anyway, not much of a chance to be awarded a CIB while spending a tour chasing B-Girls in downtown Saigon.

Perry Gaskill

Claw, you’re right about the timeline. My mistake. DaRonche was apparently with the 511th MI Company in Germany before getting orders for RVN. One of the things that also caught my eye is that he apparently was in RVN for eight months from April to December 1971. It seems to me it would have been unusual at the time for somebody to PCS to Viet Nam who didn’t have at least a year left in order to do a complete tour.

Given his MOS, I’d agree a CIB award is a non-starter.

On the other hand, those bar girls on TuDo Street could be hazardous. First they want you to buy them Saigon tea, then they pitch the “me love you long time” thing, and then you’re a goner. Or so I’ve been told…

Also, I don’t remember ever being at MAC-V HQ on Tan Son Nhut. If you were a transient headed up-country, they put you in the low-rent MAC-V Annex hootches which were near the airport, but out past the aircraft wrecking yard.

Claw

Perry, one thing to remember about the one year tours during that timeframe is that the mad exodus for almost all troops started during November-December 1971 in order to get-em-home for Christmas. Duh Raunchy was due to ETS in early January 1972, so he just had the remainder of his tour/Active Duty dropped. As I remember the rules at that time, if you had at least 180 days already completed in country, you went home. That’s what happened with me, as I never did a full 12 month tour. However, my semi-permanent Door Gunner missed that 180 day mark by just TWO days and was sent down south to H Troop/16th Cav of the 1st CAV DIV from where we were up at Phu Bai in the 101st, and subsequently he was KIA on 17 Mar 72, a month after I had left country and had reported to Fort Bliss for duty.

One thing I took note of from the 2-1 was that it took Duh Raunchy a full two months to go from Germany to RVN. TDY in route, maybe? Or maybe AWOL in route?/smile

rgr769

Aw com’on, lots of us infantry types got our CIB’s while living in air conditioned comfort at the largest U.S. military complex in the Viet of the Nam. NOT I even got to dig my own “grunt hole” every night cuz I wasn’t going to be one of those a-hole officers that would order one of his men to do it for him. Fortunately, when I went north to the Americal, we put up hammocks cuz holes didn’t work when they filled up with water or the soil was too rocky and hard to dig.

26Limabeans

525th MI motto:

Fast Factual Faithful

26Limabeans

Wrong unit. My bad.

Trapper Frank

Another awardee of the coveted National Defense Service Medal.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

He was a photographer and wasn’t in combat and yet he wears a CIB. Guess he didn’t get the whole picture.

rgr769

Surprise, Surprise!! Another Elko turd sporting an unearned and unawarded CIB. I guess we now have some more Elko “awareness.”

Retired Grunt

Rgr769….. I kind of really wish that they would take away the combat infantryman badge from the stolen valor group seriously. I can understand if someone steals valor and said they had a silver star or a purple heart or a distinguished service cross those are things people actually had to earn. No one should ever steal that type of valor. I got my CIB because I survived a mass shooting, basically…. I didn’t do anything to earn it except hold an MOS. There was nothing in my actions that made me valorous or singled me out…. NOTHING… H*** I might even had urinated on myself just a little bit. It is a very pretty badge just like the navy seal insignia is a very pretty badge but it doesn’t mean I was brave. I wasn’t…. I was scared to death.

Ret_25X

The CIB gets you a “presumed” for disability ratings at VA…

So, forging a CIB might pay off when you file for ratings.

rgr769

Well, my answer is history. And it is not a valor award. For many of us it was an I was there award, but we were out there humping a rifle and a ruck instead of in the rear with the gear. So, I am proud to wear it even if I never did anything heroic. I volunteered for some dangerous stuff and watched the bullets fly though the bottom of a Huey were my ass was parked a couple of minutes earlier. So, I will continue to wear mine proudly. The Purple Heart in its current context is also not a valor award. Most that have received it were merely in the wrong place at the wrong point in time; I am glad not to have received one, as my ass just missed one by two minutes and about a foot.

Ret_25X

The purple heart is often an “I’m unlucky” award…LOL

The PH has the same problem (in the Army) that the valor awards do…namely that it is up to the Commander to determine who gets one.

I’ve seen soldiers not get a PH in an IED event because the blast did not injure them, but a wreck caused by getting the fuck out of the way. Personally, I would give a PH to those folks, but the commander we had considered that to be “not wounded”.

He also was the type who would not have given Audie Murphy any awards at all. After all, he was just “doing his job”…

3/17 Air Cav

rgr769……your words say it a lot better than mine. “I was there award” says it best. As a grunt you can try to tell someone who asks what it was like. Only a 11B knows the real deal!

When I left the Bush and started flying as a doorgunner, I thought I had arrived in heaven!

rgr769

Sometimes when out there humping a ruck, I would have taken a demotion to be a door gunner with three hots and a cot. What was really a bitch was being in charge as the company commander. You always had to know where you were on the ground; I had to shoot in defensive artillery targets every night. Screw that up and you kill your own guys. And at night, the insane battalion commander would call you up on the KY-38 and chew your ass. My radio operators wanted to kill him. Although, happily, that bastard was relieved after a few months. So, yeah, we both know the real deal. Welcome home brother in arms.

HMCS(FMF) ret

How many other “TURDS” care going to be found floating in the punch-bowl known as the “POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association”?

Morgan Blake

This is probably the reason why people came to Les Brown’s defense or remained complicit on the subject.

I suspect there are more around him with similar behavior in regard to military claims, but I’ll try and keep an open mind.

Cameron Kingsley

Boy this just keeps getting better and better.

Keepin' It Real

Vito-Makes me angry

ninja

I still feel Lester Kent Brown is avoiding talking of his Active Duty Days at Fort Lewis, Washington and Johnston Island.

Why?

Wonder if he had stripped his BDUs of the Combat Patch, the Master Blaster Patcher, the Diver Patch, the CIB and the E8 Stripes.

Lester Kent Brown is hiding something and is using our POWs and MIAs as a Cover-Up.

He is also a Master Manipulator and Brain Washer. His Enablers are his Sheep and are very guilble.

Again, I feel for the youth of Elko, Nevada.

rgr769

I think ol’ Les doesn’t want anyone to know he was just an ammo storage specialist and world class REMF, as opposed to being some danger ranger combat hero first class.

ninja

rgr769:

Something happened at Fort Lewis when his First Wife (out of 3) divorced him in Pierce County, Washington with less than 2 years of marriage in 1982.

And you are probably right that he did NOT deploy with the 2nd/75th RANGER Regiment in Grenada.

He wears their patch as his “Combat Patch”.

Either he was still at Fort Lewis working in an ASP during the Grenada Operation or as you shared, had already PCSed to Johnston Island in October 1983, where there were lots of SCUBA courses taught there, most likely by MWR, which means he is NOT entitled to wear the Diver Badge.

Lester Kent Brown is hiding something. He is using our nations POWs and MIAs as a cover up for something he did.

Lester Kent Brown does not care about our POWs or MIAs. He wanted to be in control and charge of somethng. He wanted to be the Big Man on Campus. He is an Attention Seeking Narcisitic Individual who only cares about protecting his own reputation.

Most likely, he will go to his grave never admitting his lies and embellshments.

His Enablers are in denial to include the Chaplain. All want to save face.

Pride goeth before a Fall.

26Limabeans

“Lester Kent Brown is hiding something”

Yes, and it will surface.

Daisy Cutter

Shit floats.

rgr769

As someone who has served in four units on jump status, I can assure you that Les Brown (Stain) was never assigned to 2/75th Infantry. 2/75 was a separate infantry battalion with the same TOE as any airborne infantry battalion. Everyone assigned to the unit had to be jump qualified. There is nothing in Brown Stain’s records to support that he ever attended or completed jump school. And yes, the regiment now has a support battalion at Benning, but they did not have one back in Les’s days at Lewis. And I doubt anyone is even now assigned to any unit in the 75th who is a leg.

Comm Center Rat

Not that there’s anything wrong with being a world class REMF. I proudly earned that designator over 21 years of honorable service in rear echelon duty positions including commo, ammo storage, personnel, logistics, and PSYOP.

Unlike Les I’m actually on the AUS Retired List and receive military retired pay. And unlike Les, I don’t wear a vest with unauthorized pieces of flair or a beret with fictitious rank. In fact, I’ve found my retired ID card very effective in shutting down posers, liars, frauds, and wannabees. “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” puts fear in the hearts of fakers.

As I proudly state, you can’t spell “REMF” without “ME.”

rgr769

I agree wholeheartedly. We grunts could not survive without REMFs. We would be squatting on the ground in the bush trying to start a fire by rubbing to sticks together so we could communicate with smoke signals, and trying to catch some Fuck You lizards or snakes to eat.

3/17 Air Cav

CIB
Let me start by saying that yes I was awarded it, Do I care if I earned it under the guidelines? I don’t care! You see I’ve always had my own guidelines for it. I remember the shear terror of going out on a C A with my legs dangling out of a gruntship Huey. Scared to death that I was going to fall out as it banked. I remember forming up as we hovered then running to the tree line, not knowing if the “little fellas were waiting to ambush. I remember coming back in after 7-10 days, sleeping in a building with no bed or hanging from my hammockI remember we stayed in for two days and a wake up. And having to pull bunkerline guard while the support guys behind the wire got to sleep. I remember manning the prc 25 at night sitting on the 60 while shit moved around in the jungle scared shitless

I’ve a,ways maintained, any troop who served outside the wire has earned a CIB, regardless of MOS!

26Limabeans

“while shit moved around in the jungle scared shitless”

And voices in the dark saying “fuck you”

rgr769

With that standard (any troop who served outside the wire), we would be awarding CIB’s to every REMF who left base camp for a meal or some local poon tang. Even our beloved SP5 radio wrencher would be entitled to one, as he claimed to have done a couple of outside the wire sweep patrols at Phu Bai. So, I think not. Besides, now we have the revered combat action badge (CAB). Hell, general officers have been awarded those when their vehicle convoys were hit with and IED, even though the poor bastards who were blown up were 100 yards away.

ninja

Ronald Eugene DaRonche asked about the SPN CODE 434 on his DD214.

CODE Means “Early release of AUS & first team RA Personnel – phase down release programs (Early – out from V’nam)”.

He only stayed in Vietnam for 9 months before heading back to CONUS. He was probably part of the drawdown/ withdrawal of troops from that theather of operations.

It could be his MOS in Vietnam was no longer needed and with the drawdown, was sent home early and reclassed as a Teletypriter Repairman with a Reserve Signal Unit in Utah.

Just a theory. Only Vito knows the truth about this and his CIB.

ninja

I have a theory as to why Ronald Eugene DaRonche wears the CIB.

According to this Father’s Obituary and another source, his Father was a WW2 Veteran and “Jumped into the dark of night with the 101st Airborne on D-Day”

Yet, upon researching his Father’s WW2 Service, his Father was a US Army T3 who served as a Clerk with the 101st for about 2 years in England, France and Germany and upon his discharge in 1946, was recognized as earning the European Ribbon, the Good Conduct Medal, the Victory Medal, a Unit Citation, a Glider Badge and the “Ep Infantry Badge” (exact quote).

There is no mention of Airborne Wings.

I don’t think Gliders “jumped” into D-Day.

It also could be possible that his Father did earn the EIB, but also, the EIB could have been mistaken for Expert Qualification Badge with his weapon.

His Father may have never been part of a Glider unit that went into Normandy that day. He might have stayed behind in England.

Additionally, throughout the years, his Father’s “EIB” might have ballooned into a CIB.

Ronald Eugene DaRonche may be telling folks that he is wearing a CIB to honor his Father’s “CIB”.

Have seen this happened so many times where folks embellish what they did when serving. Either the person is embellishing their time as a Soldier or family members embellish their relative’s service.

Just my opinion and assessment. Only Ronald Eugene DaRonche knows the truth behind his Father’s WW2 Service and only Ronald Eugene DaRonche can explain why he wears a CIB.

PTBH

Nice work! Good information.

I would like to point out to everyone reading this that there is NO stipulation in the Stolen Valor Act of 2013 to wear the CIB or other medal to honor someone else. By the mere act of wearing a CIB, one is holding themselves out to be a combat veteran.

GDContractor

Only Ronald Eugene Daronche can explain why he tolerates a lying assbag like Lester Kent Brown wearing unearned rank and awards as well.

rgr769

My WW2 dad used to tell us he fought the Battle of Skid Row and “rode the magic carpet” when his PV-1 squadron was stationed in Puerto Rico. Is there some bling I can wear to commemorate that?

26Limabeans

So I guess it’s ok for me to walk around
with my dad’s aerial gunner wings as long as
I do it to honor him and not me?
People will automatically know it is all about
my dad and not me. Sure they will.

ninja

“HMCS(FMF) ret says:
August 26, 2019 at 7:30 pm

How many other “TURDS” care going to be found floating in the punch-bowl known as the “POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association”?”

“marinedad61 says:
August 26, 2019 at 4:09 pm

“Also, NEW photo of Les Brown and Tom Wulf.
August 24.”

“[Officers being sworn in.
Les Brown- Director
Ken Adams- Sergeant at Arms.
Rich Dyer will be sworn in at a later date as Treasurer.]”

Rich Dyer as the incoming Treasurer?

To answer HMCS(FMF) ret question “How many other “TURDS” care going to be found floating in the punch-bowl known as the “POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association”?”:

Well, Richard Aaron Dyer of Elko, Nevada may be another Turd floating in that punchbowl.

Public Information.

On 1 January 2001, Rich A. Dyer was arrested by an Elko Sheffiff Deputy at 5:15am at Fifth Street and Carlin Court on charges of Drunken Driving and Failure to Maintain a Travel Lane.

His Bail was $665.

I know, I know, we all make mistakes, especially on New Years Eve, New Years Day.

But he could have killed someone.

Being a ninja, am sure there are other skeletons out there with members of the POW/MIA Awareness Biker’s Club or their Enablers.

Any of Lester Kent Brown’s Enablers want to continue to support his lies and embellishments?

Go ahead. This is not a threat or a bribe.

There is alot of information out there on the Internet that is PUBLIC Information. As long as Lester Kent Brown continues to hold the office and keep silent on his lies, well, the more this ninja can start digging up old skeletons.

Did find something else on Rich Dyer, but chose not to use this Forum to post the information, but will give him a hint: “Child Support”.

BTW, what is the Elko, Nevada’s POW/MIA Awareness Biker Club’s Chaplain responsibility again? (sarc)

PTBH

The FOIA came back on Lee J.R. “Innkeeper” Foster’s military records. He was in the U.S. Navy on the USS Constellation during Vietnam and has the Vietnam medals. On a quick scan he looks legit, but I can’t imagine why he has not come forward. His silence is telling.

To “Innkeeper” Foster – What Les Brown and Ron DaRoche are doing by wearing the CIB is the equivalent of someone in the Navy or Marine Corps wearing a Combat Action Ribbon (CIB). Now, you may not see it as your duty to uphold the honor of military service, but many of us certainly do.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

Your daughter – SERENITY K. ORR – wrote an article for the Elko Daily Free Press calling Les Brown an inspiration, which was the theme of the article. I wonder if you had any influence in the article that was published because, by proxy, it praised your organization. Do you still feel that Les Brown is an inspiration?

ninja

Forgot to add that on 29 March 1995, at 4:00am, Richard A. Dyer of Elko, Nevada was arrested by Elko Police Officers at Fourth and Commercial Streets and charged with Second Offense Drunken Driving.

His Bail was $850.

Again, he could have killed someone.

My heart goes out to those who have or have had a substance abuse problem. Rich Dyer might have cleaned up his act since he was arrested twice for Drunk Driving.

However, there may be more DUI convictions out there on him that have not been uncovered.

So now we have members of the Elko, Nevada POW/MIA Awareness Biker’s Club who either were arrested for embezzlement and smoke Mary Jane illegally for over 40 years or was arrested twice for DUI.

Does Lester Kent Brown have a Skeleton as well in Washington State or Fort Lewis or Johnston Island? Or even in Placerville, California?

The Internet is Forever.

PTBH

And… they’re riding around on motorcycles.

I guess the Elko residents can be thankful they are not texting as well.

GDContractor

“BTW, what is the Elko, Nevada’s POW/MIA Awareness Biker Club’s Chaplain responsibility again? (sarc)”

I suspect his responsibility is to occupy the middle seat on those cross country all expense paid trips to Arlington.

PTBH

They have a nice little gig going in Elko.

I guess they figure all they have to do is hunker down and absorb a few metaphorical incoming rounds and can continue to plan the next fundraisers – the Chili Feed and the paid trips to Arlington.

marinedad61

Treasurer Rich Dyer “Fingers” was RE-ELECTED.
They were ALL RE-ELECTED.
More accurately, they ALL RE-ELECTED THEMSELVES.

Not the expected behavior
of a legitimate “awareness” organization
now under national scrutiny.

http://www.elkonvpowmia.org/board.html

SgtM

Da Roach and The Stain…… They went and gave themselves some new biker names. Sounds alot tougher than Vito and Sgt Grumpy, (who was never a Sgt.)

ninja

And there is MORE! Ken Adams, AKA Kenneth Leroy Adams, Jr. of Carlin/Spring Creek/Elko, Nevada, husband of Laura Adams. Ken Adams is responsible for Merchandise for the POW/MIA Elko Awareness Association Biker Club. Laura Adams, his wife, is the Secretary. PUBLIC INFORMATION. * On 24 November 1996, Ken Adams was arrested by a Nevada Highway Patrol Trooper at 8:35am at Mountain City Highway and Idaho Street, Elko, Nevada, on charges of possession of a controlled substance (a roach clip with residue), driving without proof of insurance and failure to use a seatbelt. His Bail was $3,235. * Around 14 April 1994, Ken Adams was arrested by a Sheriff Deputy at 10:00PM in an alley next to the Elko County Courthouse. He was charged with two counts of possession of a controlled substance and possession of drug equipment. His Bail was $8,1000. * About 12 November 1992, Ken Adams was arrested by the Elko, Nevada City Police at Fifth and Silver Street and charged with Drunken Driving, Failure to Maintain the Travel Lane and Failure to stop at a Stop Sign. His Bail was $670. * Around 25 April 1997, Ken Adams was sentenced to 15 days in the Elko County Jail and placed on two years of probation for his conviction of conspiracy to possess marijuana in connection to his November 24 1996 arrest. * In March 1997, Ken Adams pleaded Guilty to conspiracy of possessing marijuana. He was arrested on 24 November 1996 in Elko, Nevada, when he was stopped by a Nevada State Trooper for driving with a cracked windshield and for not wearing a seatbelt. The Nevada Highway State Trooper found a portion of a burnt marijuana cigarette in the ashtray of his car. * In September 1997, Ken Adams had his two year probation revoked by Elko Nevada District Judge Jack Ames for violating his controlled substances and laws and conduct condition and was sentenced to 10 Months in the Elko County Jail with credit for 54 days previously served for his 29 April 1997 conviction of conspiracy to possess marijuana. * On 24 July 1997,… Read more »

PTBH

I don’t see any record of Ken Adams as having served in the military. Same is true of his wife.

However, he wears the SFC chevron in his official picture for the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association.

Adams - Rank Photo

We are awaiting official confirmation via FOIA results.

This group has excused and forgiven itself for this behavior. They have made some type of arrangement with themselves about this. What I strongly question is them walking around official functions such as the Chili Feed or the Arlington Plane Trip sporting unearned rank as well as giving the implication that they served by nature of wearing these vests. They discount this as a trivial matter but potential donors should be appraised of this and not be subject to misrepresentation.

If it’s not a big deal, then why would they wear unearned bling in the first place?

Let’s be honest – it is probably worn to give the appearance of a veteran packed organization when it is not. In fact, it is hard to make a case that it does not influence donations.

Oddly enough, they are starting to appear to be a band of misfits and lead by the greatest misfit of the bunch – Les Brown. Les was a screw-up when he was in the military and now he is operating in a ‘Les’ structured environment (pun intended) with no real rules except what Les deems appropriate.

I wish there was a way to formally complain about a non-profit. Seems the only way is financial misdealings, but since they are under the radar as far as a reporting amount, I believe the place to start is improper misrepresentation.

ninja

PTBH has nailed it.

And so has marinedad61 and Martinjmpr.

The Elko Nevada POW/MIA Awareness Association is nothing more than a Self-Gloried Biker Group that puts more emphasis on wearing vests with Bling-Blings, comprised of middle age men (minus one),sporting goatees/beards, ponytails as well as having run ins with law enforcement in the past.

IMHO, all of them are hiding something of their past. IMHO, even the Chaplain is hiding behind the Christian Cross.

IMHO, that Narcisstic Biker Group will never admit their deceit. And never will their Enablers. Doing that means end of Money for that Bogus Biker’s Club. Doing that means the end of being in the Limelight with the end of free trips to Arlington.

Their Newspaper will never fess up that Les and his Misfits are pulling the wool over everyone’s eye. The Mayor will never acknowledge it. Elko Nevada needs $$$$ from tourists.

There are probably alot of folks in Elko Nevada who are turning a blind eye because they probably have something to hide as well.

Or they are ashamed.

I predict that there will be less participation at their Chili Feed or other events and that slowly, but surely, donations will start to dry up.

Just watch.

And in the meantime, spread the word on Travelicity, Facebook and other Social Media for Folks to stay AWAY from Elko, Nevada, Home of the Self-Elected Misfit Association pretending to care about our POWs and MIAs.

We all know that Bikers Gang could care less about our POW/MIAs. All they care about is themselves and slowly, but surely, the onion is being peeled and a rotten, putrid odor permeates the air of Elko, Nevada with their lies and embellishments.

They think they can fool folks, but they forgot that there is a Higher Power who sees behind their facade and can’t be fooled.

Please pray for the innocent young children of Elko, Nevada.

PTBH

Bingo. They are hiding behind a noble cause.

Mustang Major

Behaving or not caught?

Martinjmpr

After 37 years on motorcycles I’ve pretty much gotten to the point where I assume that anybody wearing one of those black leather vests with military patches and badges on it that claim combat service or affiliation with some high speed military unit is at best an embellisher and at worst an outright faker and liar.

Maybe it’s time to call these ‘awareness groups’ out for what they are: ‘Cosplay’ for old men.

Just like the comic book reading nerds who go to Comic-Cons dressed as their favorite fictional characters, these are (chronologically) grown men who dress up in patches and badges and awards they never earned, are not entitled to, and could not have ever received.

They tell each other fake war stories and present themselves to the public as bad-ass tough guy biker veterans, when all they really are is a bunch of sad-sack “wannabes” and “never-weres” who use embellished or fraudulent tales of heroism to gain the esteem they desperately want but have never gotten.

And until and unless the “veterans organizations” like the VFW and the AL start requiring actual proof of eligibility (and subjecting those documents to at least a minimal level of scrutiny) those organizations will continue to be composed largely of bullshitters like this.

Which is why this veteran, for one, has no interest in joining their ranks.

At least the comic-con geeks don’t try to convince you that they are actually Spider man or Wonder woman.

rgr769

You may be right as a general rule, but I have been riding for about 30 years and I put patches on my vest and every one of them is something I earned or a unit I served with. But I only wear it to military funerals and to Veterans Day parades. I don’t wear it 98 percent of the time I get on a motorcycle.

26Limabeans

“At least the comic-con geeks don’t try to convince you that they are actually Spider man or Wonder woman”

She did and I believed her.

PTBH

WHAT’S AROUND THE CORNER In case anyone is in doubt about our resolve: We are systematically making FOIA requests on every member of the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association. This will take several months due to the process being slow. Rest assured that if we haven’t gotten to someone yet, the sunshine will eventually make its way around. Although this process is slow, I’d like to say at this early juncture that it’s almost as if it doesn’t matter if they have embellishments or not. If they have embellishments, it is par for the course and more evidence to provide to the DA and/or AG. If they served honorably and have no embellishments, why are they not speaking out against the people that are embellishing? If they never served at all – why are they coming out… such as Laura Adams claiming she authenticated all of Les Brown’s military records… and speaking on matters they know very little about? What really gets me is the non-veterans are speaking about the significance of awards given to a distinct and highly respected group of people – combat veterans – and making up their own rules about wearing false bling. Same is true for people outside this organization – namely Carlin Police Officer John Rowe who to his credit admitted he never served but at the same time said he looked at all of Les Brown’s records and declared them all legitimate and authentic. I mean, many of us that have served find it challenging to read military records so what gives Carlin Police Officer John Rowe some kind of magical ability to do that? He should just take a big swig of STFU. Just keep this in mind as we go through this long process – none of it would have happened if Les Brown just came clean and admitted what we all know to be true anyway – that he did not retire from the Army after 20 years, he was not a MSG (E-8), he was not with Special Forces, he was not a Ranger, he was not a Desert Storm… Read more »

ChipNASA

ninja

PTBH:

“Carlin Police Officer John Rowe”.

Do you mean John Fitzgerald Rowe of Carlin, Nevada, currently married to Wife Number 4?

Hmmmm…

John and his first wife were married 2 November 1985. That marriage produced two children. They got divorced 27 February 1992.

Now what is interesting on this is that
John and his second wife were married a month later on 30 March 1992. He was 27 years old. She was 19 years old. Their child was born 9 September 1992.

You do the math. May have also explained the divorce.

That marriage ended in March 1998.

He then married his Third Wife on 26 February 2000. They got divorced 21 April 2011.

Don’t know the marriage date of current Wife Number 4. But do know this: Wife Number 4 was married to another Elko, Nevada Dude on 6 April 2006. They were divorced on 9 February 2007.

They MAY have gotten a divorce because a child was born to Wife Number 4 on 3 November 2007. The Father was NOT her former husband.

The Father of that child was ordered to pay Child Support.

Elko, Nevada. Peyton Place. All kinds of stuff are coming out about that town.

They are all hiding something. And how do they project their guilt? By enabling Lester Kent Brown.

It takes the focus off of them.

Don’t Mess With Ninjas.

GDContractor

John Rowe made a comment on Facebook that struck me as odd: (paraphrased) “I never served and I have never claimed to be a veteran.”

The implication of that statement is that there is something inherently wrong in claiming to be something that you are not.

And yet, he chooses to be Les Brown’s character witness, in spite of all the objective data suggesting that Les Brown is a lying scumbag, claiming to be something that he is not.

3/10/MED/b

Village of the Damned.

5th/77th FA

It Takes a Village…Full of Idiots!

26Limabeans

You can check out anytime you like
but you can never ever leave…..

Hondo

Wrong state. (smile)

3/10/MED/b

I use the “Village of the Damned” (movie) analogy for a group of lemmings who follow each other, no matter what the actions involved. That seems to be the mentality of the veteran community in Elko, NV.
The antagonists in the movie were all children.

Will leave it at that…

(Where is that damn basic training ribbon…My NDSM is so lonely…)