Update: More or Les “The Brown Stain” 2K Drive

| August 17, 2019

We’d like to interrupt our regularly scheduled postings to monitor the Les Brown drive to 2K comments.  We anticipate this milestone will be crossed very soon.

As we await Les Brown to show the documents he has sworn he has…

… well, we can only think Les does not have a scanner and Elko does not have a Kinkos to do it for him.  That’s, of course, giving him the benefit of the doubt.

So, while we are waiting for the main event to kick off, we thought we’d give you a fresh canvas to paint on.

Tom Wulf’s FOIA results are back and we are quite surprised since he tossed around the classified documents angle… you know, being that he is a self-proclaimed expert on military documents and all.

We are still awaiting FOIA results for others in the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association.  It really didn’t start off like this, but now the point is to determine which of them are actually veterans and if that is the case – why are they standing idly by and not having Les come clean or taking part in verifying his records.  Something is very odd here.

So, there is a story here with the entire organization and we want to collect all the proper documents to give an accurate accounting of the stats.  The story could possibly be that they are all legit – except for Les “The Brown Stain” of course.  But we’ll see where the paper trail ends up.

A couple of questions still out on the table:

  • Is Les Brown going to be invited again to speak in front of school children?
  • Is Les Brown going to still be participating in veteran parades with his phony Army uniform, phony patches, and phony rank?  (I know of many that would love to get more photos of this spectacle.)
  • Are there any sock puppets left that are willing to defend Les Brown?  (At first, they were like flies to a fresh dog turd but they’ve seemed to have flown away once it hardened.  Wulf and Truth are long gone so I don’t think any gas is left in their tanks.  What about others that are so convinced of Les’ legitimacy?  So many are willing to pat Les on the head and say “We’re behind you brother” but are unwilling to get out in front.  I’m sure they recognized that Les is not going to lead in his own defense so is totally reliant on others.)

So much remains to be seen.  Stay tuned.

Category: "Teh Stoopid", Army, Army Poser, National Guard, Stolen Valor

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  1. Ret_25X says:

    There is a non-zero chance that he is everything he says he is….but .00000000000000000000000001% means that we can say that it is not probable.

    On the other hand, he is a skid mark, so he has that going for him…

  2. A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

    Will Les Brown ever speak up?
    Will Les Brown have other sock puppets chirp for him?
    Will Les Brown continue to push his fiction on children and teens?
    Will Les Brown come clean about the proceeds from his annual Chili Feed?
    Will Les Brown ever be honest about what he’s been sporting on his Biker Vest?
    Will Les Brown keep conning others in Elko NV to keep circling their proverbial wagons around his Stolen Valor?

    The Internet is forever.

    • marinedad61 says:

      Proof the internet is forever….
      It doesn’t even take a tailored Google search now.
      Just 3 words, his name (Les Brown (not even in quotes)),
      and Elko, to avoid the famous bandleader results.

      Top 6 Google Search Results, in order:
      BAD – Elko Press June 15 Local Inspirations,
      highlighting the
      20 years / master sergeant lies.
      BAD – Elko Press July 26 “Under Fire”
      BAD – By association now – http://www.elkonvpowmia.org
      BAD – Military Phony July 18 – Les Brown
      BAD – Valor Guardians July 23 – “Les Brown’s DD-214”
      BAD – Valor Guardians July 30 – “More or Les
      Putting Elko NV on the Map”

      No Desert Sand Shield,
      Cone of Silence (Get Smart),
      or Guitar Amps turned to 11 (This is Spinal Tap),
      can shield Les Brown and the Elko POW*MIA
      looking not so good on the “world wide web” now.



  3. Jus Bill says:

    In the Kingdom of the Blind the one-eyed man is king…

  4. 26Limabeans says:

    “Tom Wulf’s FOIA results are back”

    You make it sound so ….medical.

    • Club Manager says:

      Well it is, sort of. Like when the doctor tells you he has both good and bad news for you. The bad news is you have the clap. The good news is it is not a fatal disease if treated. Having had a sneak preview of his 214, here are the “results” He served six years Navy AD then went into the NV Guard serving until retirement. He wears a
      Navy E-6 hat insignia and Army Airborne badge on his biker vest in addition to Army MSG insignia. Given his length of service and awards, he could have retired as a MSG. Then why does he wear a lieutenant colonel insignia on his Army beret slash.
      There is also an outside chance after six years of honorable Navy service, he could have achieved E-6 but given time in grade requirements I don’t think so. Looks like he was recalled and deployed to Iraq, but his unit was attached to the 593rd Sustainment out of Fort Lewis, not an Airborne unit which eliminates that nexus.
      The DD Form 214 shows three awards of the Noncommissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbon which is not an officers award. Additionally, he would have had to complete officer professional Command & General Staff Course training to achieve the grade of LTC and that is not listed on his DD Form 214. So what’s the deal on impersonating an officer? While there is nothing to preclude someone from wearing items on a biker vest, for a retired soldier to be wearing an Army uniform item displaying a grade they did not achieve, in additional to being stolen valor is something that would seem to violate an Army directive which he still may be subject to. I’ll occasionally wear my “squashed bug” insignia on a blazer and I don’t see anything wrong with someone wearing their highest grade on civilian attire. What inquiring minds want to know is why someone with totally honorable and respectable service would want to pull this type of crap and stand up for a phony whose service was not as honorable.

      • 26Limabeans says:

        So basically they are lying to each other.

        • marinedad61 says:

          Stolen Valor Phonies have good gaydar,
          but for other phonies.
          They look out for each other, knowingly.
          Of course.

          Ever see someone say “Don’t pursue it”,
          or “Let it Be”?
          Major red flag on partners in Phonydar.

      • Skyjumper says:

        Just curious Club Manager, were the three awards of the Noncommissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbon, Navy or Army?

        “There is also an outside chance after six years of honorable Navy service, he could have achieved E-6 but given time in grade requirements I don’t think so.”

        I’m not Navy, so I don’t know how long it would take to be awarded E6, but here is a Navy chart that shows what is needed and the time in grade for promotion.

        Possible to do in six years?

        Yeah, I question his jump wings also.

        Thanks for the update, CM.


        • Terry Sheehan says:

          I’m thinking it would not be possible to make E-6 under normal TIS considerations. There are waivers for TIG but it is rare.

          One could have been in an advanced paygrade situation for signing up for six years – Nuclear or other programs that involve long schools and therefore, longer commitments upon enlistment. I recall they were given E-4 when starting their service school and usually this was less than 6 months into the Navy.

          • HMCS(FMF) ret says:

            You’re right, Terry. Some of the Nuclear Power/sub ratings (ST, MM, etc.) advance pretty fast:


          • Terry Sheehan says:

            He was stationed at a submarine base so the Nuclear Sub rating is plausible.

            wulf - summary sheet

            Tom Wulf – There is enough discrepancy to get you called out. Still gathering documents. Your service bling may not be as bad as Les Brown, but you normally would have been given a borderline pass had it not been for you jumping into this both feet and stating BS policy and claiming you are some kind of an expert on documents.

            Most importantly, however, is that we want to give you the opportunity to respond to the questions posed to you. You know what I’m talking about. i.e. What’s with the 82nd Airborne Badge?

            Wulf - 82nd

        • Club Manager says:

          My SWAG (i.e., Stu’s Wild Ass Guess) is the NCO Pro Dev ribbons were Army for a couple of reasons, length of Navy vs. Army Guard time being the main one. My experience having worked for a Navy Master Chief when I was an Air Force E-6, is the extent of Navy NCO professional development consists of learning to appreciate drinking a Martini. Now that I think about it, I didn’t receive a ribbon for that but he was one of the finest NCO’s I every had the privilege of serving with.

      • Cameron Kingsley says:

        I can’t wait to see where this goes. In the time I have been snooping around this site, I have not seen a case quite like this one for a while now. Most of the recent cases have been just one and done along with many of the past ones. But not this one.

      • ArmyATC says:

        I believe, and I could be wrong, that those clowns wear the officer rank as a badge of office in their little “awareness” club, showing that they are the two “top dogs.” I don’t think they are actually claiming to have been officers in the military. I say that because while they had the officer rank on their berets they were wearing NCO rank, the rank that they claimed to have been in service, on their vests. It’s a stupid thing to do at the very least.

        • rgr769 says:

          That would be correct. I am sure their story would be that they are wearing that field grad officer rank on their berets to honor those O-5’s and O-6’s who are POW or MIA.

          • 26Limabeans says:

            I don’t any PFC rank for Bobby Garwood.

            • 5th/77th FA says:

              giggle snort. you showing your age ‘beans…and your knowledge of historic dirtbags. I like it!

            • Hondo says:

              I believe that would be Pvt Garwood, not PFC. If memory serves, he was court-martialed as a collaborator while a POW after he returned; found guilty; and received a reduction to E-1 (Pvt), full forfeitures, and a DD.

              • 26Limabeans says:

                Correct, however the Elko boys
                would probably sport the pre
                reduction rank because they
                really really liked Bergdahl.

        • Mustang Major says:

          Looks like they are pinning officer rank on the Army beret’s universal flash. That can’t be legit.

        • marinedad61 says:

          Well, when both the Elko County Sheriff
          AND the Elko City Police Chief
          walk around with (General?) 4 STARS
          on their collars and lapels…

          A bit rank-centric out there in the desert oasis, aren’t they?


      • Comm Center Rat says:

        FWIW Thomas Wulf is listed as a Sergeant First Class, Retired in the US Army White Pages directory on the Human Resources Command website. The directory doesn’t identify which component (AD, USAR, ARNG) the individual Retired from. However, I’ve found the White Pages to be a accurate first source regarding claims of rank and status.

        I too wonder why a legitimate Army retiree continues to defend the imposter and Stolen Valor thief, Les Brown.

      • ninja says:

        Club Manager:

        If you go to this TAH post of Les Brown, you will see that Les Brown is wearing Colonel’s rank on his beret when posing for a picture for the POW/MIA Awareness Bike Club:


        Suspect the reason Wulf is wearing the Lieutenant Colonel Rank on his beret is because he is “Second In Command” in that organization.

        Looks as if that may be an old picture of Les Brown when their bike club was initiatlly formed. Les sports a POW/MIA emblem on other berets. Perhaps that picture of Wulf may be old as well and he may now be sporting the POW/MIA emblem on his beret.

        Maybe someone pointed out to them about them wearing US Army Officer Rank and they corrected it.

        Not defending Wulf, but IMHO, I don’t think he is impersonating an Army LTC/O5 given that he was in the Nevada National Guard.

        • Daisy Cutter says:

          “It was the vests. Now they are coming after our berets! Emergency meeting. Bring your berets… and the children.” – Les

          Seriously, I don’t recall much being made by TAH of the rank on their berets, even though it was questionable. Organizations like the Young Marines, Sea Cadets and I think ROTC have their own rank structure that mimics the real military. I recall even in boot camp that the RPOC, ARPOC and Squad Leaders were given rank. Squad Leaders were 2nd class POs, ARPOC was a 1st Class and the RPOC was a Chief. The outside orgs were given permission to do this. I don’t suspect Les Brown and his organization was, but let’s face it – they are working by their own set of rules. They are not a fraternal veteran org and I doubt they registered as a 503c non-profit as such.

          IOW, they can do more without seeking permission. They certainly give the appearance that they are a veteran fraternal org, but they are not. This appearance, in my view, gets them leverage and some respect at the annual Chili Feed in Elko, but it is deceptive and WRONG in my opinion.

      • AW1Ed says:

        I was a “Frocked” Navy E-6 in six, meaning I could assume the title and wear the crow, but not receive the pay until I had reached the Time in Service requirement. So yeah, it can be done.

        • Hack Stone says:

          Making in E-6 in six years is plausible but extremely unlikely. And if you are capable of attaining E-6 in six years, why would you bail out of the branch that you are in to serve part time with retirement pay kicking in decades later?

          • AW1Ed says:

            I was AD my entire time in, and hit glass ceiling for E-7. Took an early out with 17 and change. TERA gave me a prorated retirement check and all privileges as a 20 year retiree would receive. One of my better career moves.
            All this is I’m sure documented at TAH HQ, or I wouldn’t be an Admin here.

      • Bubblehead Ray says:

        FWIW, I made it in 6 years. Was an early candidate and selected for the last increment, Frocked to PO1 and wore it for about 6 months until I left the Navy…about 10 days before I would have gotten paid for it. My DD-214 says E-5, but I had them add “Frocked to E-6” because I wore the crow and wanted official notice of it.

      • Charles says:

        The Non-Commissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbon (and it is that, a ribbon, without a medal) simply marks that the soldier has attended various levels of NCO schooling. Over the years, the names have changed and the digits associated with the level of education has changed. Bottom line: First level school [Basic NCO school] = digit “1.” Advanced schooling = digit “2” or “3”. The digit “4” represents a graduate from the Sergeant Majors Academy.

        There is no equivalent “look what schools I graduated from” for officers, BUT, if the officer was formerly an enlisted man and then was commissioned via OCS, ROTC Green to Gold, etc. he would still be authorized to wear the NCO Professional Development Ribbon he earns back in his enlisted days.
        It is one of the ways you can identify a former enlisted man who became an officer. I wear mine with the digit “2,” earned before I graduated OCS, but will never wear a higher number.
        The other indicator if prior enlisted service is a Good Conduct Medal. Officers don’t get them (I guess good behavior is expected) but they may wear Good Conduct Medals earned during former enlisted service.

    • Anonymous says:

      Like the magic finger exam…

  5. Berliner says:

    Perhaps he went to fax them and mistook the shredder for the fax. I’ll just bet this has happened often to most people.

    “Less” Brown will just have to get suitable replacements photoshopped so he can try to fax them again.

    • Morgan Blake says:

      “Didn’t you get them?” – Les Brown

    • The Stranger says:

      He can place a call to Forgin’ Frank Visconti! He’ll hook him right up! Chevy Chevalier has also been known to provide “self-produced” documents on occasion. Brown Stain does have options here!

  6. Ex-PH2 says:

    I did not hear crickets in any responses but there was this odd critter in the bush:

  7. 3/10/MED/b says:

    Dammit, I had my BDU’S (ets ’98) all pressed, looking for free chili (with lots of free bbq sauce-HFCS free-) and now I find out Mr. Wulf is a phony too?
    Oh, wait…I feel the PTSD kicking in…

    (Note…I know PTSD does exist, and I do not mean to make light of it. Individuals who use the term for their own benefit, well…)

  8. RGR 4-78 says:

    Les Brown.

    Original thread-353
    L B’s DD-214—-186
    Local Head——357
    More or Les—–774
    Update M or Les-233
    *Total before
    this thread—-1903

    *Note, this tally does not include a count of cross post postings. I believe that Claw is keeping count on the total “total”.

  9. 3/10/MED/b says:

    Not sure what Claw’s PMCS schedule is on the Wheel, but it might need an update with those numbers.

  10. rgr769 says:

    Les and his minions can’t defend his military claims to fame becuase they are arithmetically and geographically impossible to support. Unless one believes 2+2 can equal something other than four, or that a person can be in more than one geographical location on the globe at the same point in time, Les Brown Stain’s story can’t be proved. That observation is in addition to the improbability of a reserve leg MP unit having sent him to Ranger, Jump School, and Jumpmaster School, and none of it appearing in his personnel records with the NPRC or in his two recorded DD-214’s. I won’t bother to comment on the improbability of him having participated in the Grenada op with 2/75th Rangers as a leg E-4, cuz that is beyond the pale.

    • RGR 4-78 says:

      Les Brown would have to account for RIP in his school list/time, an additional 2 weeks IIRC during that time frame.

  11. Interesting read on this more or less, and yet I sweated out the stolen valor deal when I had to razor out the embroided rifle on the ARNG cap I ordered last year or the year before.

  12. Mick says:

    Well, well, well. What have we here?

    Looks like Team TAH may have exposed a hive of posers.

    I’ve been hanging around here at TAH for a while now, and I don’t remember ever seeing anything quite like this.

    • The Stranger says:

      What about Phoney Baloney Toney and those cocksuckers at the International Order of Oddfellows? I see some similarities here.

  13. 5th/77th FA says:

    Ol’ Les done made a mess,
    and now he won’t confess.
    He’s probably in distress
    and gonna change his address.
    He didn’t want this much awareness.

    Dedicated to Lester Kent Brown (stain), a lying sack of sh^t!

    I look forward to the postings about his partners in “slime”.

    • sbalm says:

      It is too early to tell about the rest of them but FOIAs have been requested. We will keep an open mind and go where the facts take us.

      Right now, we have:

      Les Brown – ’nuff said

      Tom Wulf – Questionable bling, asking him for clarification

      Ron LaRonche – Waiting on results, looks legit service-wise. Arrested for embezzlement in 1999, but later went on to become Senior Vice Commander behind Les. I guess the embezzlement arrest wasn’t a deterrent and may have been a plus.

      James R.L. “Innkeeper” Foster – Waiting on results, looks legit service-wise. Daughter – Serenity K. Orr – works for Elko Daily Free Press and wrote the Les Brown Local Hero article for them.

      NO MILITARY SERVICE (Still confirming)
      Ken Adams – Merchandise – No apparent military service. Wears E-7 rank on ‘awareness’ vest.
      Laura Adams – Secretary – No apparent military service. Richard A. “Fingers” Dyer – Treasurer – No apparent military service. Only records are a long string of DUIs. Wears O-3 bars on ‘awareness’ vest.

      More often than not, many of the rest did not serve in the military but don’t really claim to have. They have the vests, but there is less bling on them. This, in my opinion, is an indication that there is still some kind of loose “rank structure” adhered to in the POW*MIA Elko Awareness Society – in that you are allowed more unearned bling if you WERE in the military, but try and keep a cap on it if you didn’t serve. I don’t know what the rule is, but that is my guess.

      Again, the bottom line is we will keep an open mind.

  14. Claw says:

    This comment concludes the drive to 2,000 comments for Lester Kent Brown.

    Therefore, he is awarded the 1st French’s Classic Yellow Stain Fecal Smudge Cluster (ILO Five Baby Shit Brown Fecal Smudge Clusters) to the Master Phony Badge.

    • Claw says:

      Since it was the suggestion of Mustang Major that the design for the TAH Phony Badge include a wagging tongue as part of its design motif, I felt it would be only appropriate that Lester Kent Brown have a taste of a real mustard stain for his dumbfuckery, hence the French’s Classic Yellow Mustard®™ color./smile

    • Morgan Blake says:

      Wow. I feel like I’m now a part of history.

  15. AW1Ed says:

    Saw Mick chime in. It’s after 1600 somewhere, so I’m sure he’s at the “O” club, with a pastel Izod sport shirt under his OD flight suit, singing “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin'” while this is on the jumbotron.

    NBL, Buddy.

    • 5th/77th FA says:

      Bwaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp gasp hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

      Your fish is running true and tracking. Impact on target in

    • Hack Stone says:

      Didn’t make Admiral because his command missed their Navy Relief goal for three consecutive years.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      He could use some Preparation H on that face of his.

    • 11B-Mailclerk says:

      I would rather watch “Sharknado: The Second One (oh yes they did)” than the thing cited above, which is sort of the “Dr. Phibes Rises Again” of aviation. Except Vincent Price is a better dramatic actor.

  16. Mick says:

    Oh, FFS. You just had to do it, didn’t you?

    My hatred for you is becoming incendiary.

    BTW, for Marine Aviators, we’re in the O’Club bar after 1200 if we’re not on the flight schedule. We’ll even go at 1200Z if we have to. 1600 is for Navy Aviators.

    You also left out the mandatory “shit hot” Top Gun look of wearing sunglasses in the O’Club bar well into the night. Everyone knows that chicks really dig that.

    • Mick says:

      This reply was meant for AW1Ed…

    • Club Manager says:

      I managed or tended bar in five Air Force O Clubs with flying units (two were fighter units), three Army O Clubs with flying units, one with shit hot 3/7 Air Cav warrant officer pilots and after becoming a warrant officer was a customer in many others. I NEVER saw any pilot wear sun glasses into the bar.

      • A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

        So you’re saying that “Top Gun” is at least as bogus as Les Brown?

      • AW1Ed says:

        Mick and I go knuckles all the time, CM. It’s a Navy/Marine/Pilot/Aircrew thing too murky for outsiders to really understand.
        But when push comes to shove, I have Mick’s six, and he has mine.
        After all, we share the same number of anchors on our wings.
        NFOs now…

  17. 26Limabeans says:

    WULFMAN is not available


    MANWULF is available


  18. cptsmith says:

    What is the minimum number of pieces of flair to wear on your vest if you are trying to impress everyone? Asking for a friend.

    • 26Limabeans says:

      There can be be no more than 3 inches bare vest
      between each piece to qualify as “adorned”.
      Get it down to 2 inches and you become “festooned”.
      One inch brings “fully vested” status.

      Keep in mind that no two pieces of bling may touch.
      This is to discourage cheating. Lying is ok but
      cheating is grounds for “devesting”

    • Comm Center Rat says:

      “You know what, if you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair!” ~ Joanna in Office Space (1999)

    • Keepin' It Real says:

      The POW*MIA Elko Awareness Association By-Laws specific to flair and vest-wearing are not made public.

      However, we are able to piece together some of the criteria.

      For instance:

      * If an individual actually served in the military, take that rank and double it. For instance E-4 = E-8.

      * If an individual served in close proximity (i.e. 100 miles) of a unit they aspired to be a part of – read “identify with” – then said individual may adorn themselves with said patches, tabs and pins.

      * If an individual never served in the military, then said individual by nature of close proximity to an individual that did serve, can wear whatever rank and bling veteran deems appropriate provided said bling does not come close to nor exceeds actual veteran’s bling.

  19. The Stranger says:

    Guys, I need some help. A couple of weeks ago I had an idea based on the “Brown Stain” nickname and I alluded to it in a comment. I have since had the worst case of writers block ever! I need one one of you kind folks to come up with a parody for Les based on the Guns and Roses song “Mr. Brownstone.” Please and thank you.

    • AW1Ed says:

      Did a couple searches with no joy, Stranger. I came across this gem, however:

      I hoist a dram of Canadian Club 12 year old in your direction.

      My libation of choice is Larceny Bourbon, and I’ll hoist one in your honor when the sun is over the yardarm.

      Perhaps it involved Dancing With Mr. Brownstain?

      • The Stranger says:

        Well, I never actually got started. I just mentioned that I had an evil plan without going into details. I figured I could come up with something but haven’t been able to come up with anything. What I need is one of you wordsmiths to run with the idea and make it happen. This statistics class I’m taking is sucking the life out of me.

      • The Stranger says:

        And yes, the idea was “Dancing with Mr. Brownstain” but I can’t put it together.

    • MarineDad61 says:

      I was thinking…
      LEPER MESSIAH by Metallica.

      Here’s the incriminating (actual) lyrics.
      Spineless from the start, sucked into the part
      Circus comes to town, you play the lead clown
      Please, please
      Spreading his disease, living by his story
      Knees, knees
      Falling to your knees, suffer for his glory
      You will
      Time for lust, time for lie
      Time to kiss your life goodbye
      Send me money, send me green
      Heaven you will meet
      Make a contribution
      And you’ll get a better seat
      Bow to Leper Messiah
      Marvel at his tricks, need your Sunday fix
      Blind devotion came, rotting your brain
      Chain, chain
      Join the endless chain, taken by his glamour
      Fame, Fame
      Infection is the game, sucking drunk with power
      We see
      Time for lust, time for lie
      Time to kiss your life goodbye
      Send me money, send me green
      Heaven you will meet
      Make a contribution

  20. 26Limabeans says:

    I’ll bet if you took a survey asking people if
    they are aware of the POW/MIA issue there would be very few who would answer no. Like zero.

  21. 11B-Mailclerk says:


    All that foogas going to waste. Nary a sockpuppet to be found.

  22. Sarge says:

    there once was a man named Les
    A valor thief I confess
    Whenever it rained
    his pants became stained
    and left a stinky brown mess

  23. Ret_25X says:

    Les gets up around seven
    Starts lying around nine
    And he don’t worry about nothin’ no
    ‘Cause worryin’s a waste of his, time
    The show usually starts around seven
    Les go on stage at nine
    Get on the bike at eleven
    Tellin a lie and feelin’ fine
    He’s been dancin’ with
    Mr. Brownstain
    He’s been lyin
    He won’t’ tell the truth
    No, no, no
    He won’t tell the truth
    He used ta lie a little but a little wouldn’t do
    So the lyin got more and more
    He just keep tryin’ ta get a little better
    Said a little better than before
    I used ta do a little but a little wouldn’t do
    So the little got more and more
    I just keep tryin’ ta get a little better
    Said a lie bigger than before
    He been dancin’ with
    Mr. Brownstain
    He’s been lyin
    He won’t tell the truth
    No, no, no
    He won’t tell the truth
    Now he lie up around whatever
    Les used ta lie some times
    But that old man he’s a real muthafucker
    Gonna kick him on down the line
    Les used ta lie a little but a little wouldn’t do
    So the lies got more and more
    Les just keep tryin’ ta lie a little bigger
    Said a lie bigger than before
    Les used ta lie a little but a little wouldn’t do
    So the lies got more and more
    Les just keep tryin’ ta lie a little better
    Said a lie better than before
    We been hearing
    Mr. Brownstain
    He’s been lyin
    He won’t leave lies alone
    No, no no
    He won’t leave lies alone
    Oh leave lies alone
    Saw lies in the middle and TAH showed to the world
    And it, it proved Les lied
    Les should’ve known better, said Les wish he never lied to TAH
    Said Les leave it all behind

    all rights to the publisher and composer…for sarcastic purposes only!

    • The Stranger says:

      There it is! Thank you so much. I had the idea, but couldn’t run with it. Much appreciated. Now Les has his own WWE type entrance music.

    • Comm Center Rat says:

      YOWZA!! Ret_25X you’ve done Guns N’ Roses proud. Take that one to heart Les Brownstain, Liar of the Desert.

  24. Helpfull Medal says:

    I’m impressed you guys are able to always find SSNs on people you are requesting FOIAs on. I’m truly interested how you are able to do that since I know these people aren’t offering that data willfully.

    Don’t get me wrong, I support what you’re doing. I just always wondered how you got that info. Obviously, criminal records can be searched by name and address, but I noticed you guys always have a SSN when you pull a full FOIA on someone.

  25. 26Limabeans says:

    At the Elko spelling Bee:

    MODERATOR: ok Billy your word is “awareness”

    BILLY: can I hear it used in a sentence?

    MODERATOR: the Elko awareness association is a fraud

    BILLY: “awareness” F-R-A-U-D “awareness”

    MODERATOR: correct, Johnny your word is……

  26. Charles says:

    Lester Kent Brown and his related Elko entities are clearly at the top of the Pick Hit Parade when a Google or Bing searcher seeks “poser” “fraud” “military fakes and phonies” “Le Brown” Lester Brown Valor Thief” etc.

    But why isn’t the all purpose .pdf page also available on the top image searches? Maybe because it isn’t indexed by his name?

    May I suggest that the .pdf file with the red arrows be renamed and redistributed so web crawlers will find it and make it available to those who seek the truth about Lester Kent Brown.

  27. 26Limabeans says:

    From the Elko Nevada News:

    “Amber R. Williams, 32, of Elko was arrested at 3015 Idaho St. for false statement to obstruct a public officer. Bail: $1,140”

    I wonder if Les can lecture her on false statements.

    The Elko police log and mugshots are a hoot.


  28. Daisy Cutter says:

    I propose that someone do a Les Brown crossword puzzle and post as a new thread.

    Winner gets a bottle of Young G’s BBQ sauce and a free ticket to this year’s Elko Chili Feed.

  29. Claw says:

    Comment # 2,101

    Still waiting to hear the “Truth” from Lester Kent Brown.

    • ChipNASA says:

      We’ll see Hillary indicted for crimes before Ole’ Les admits to shit.

      • Helpful Medal says:

        It’s funny because you guys used to actually think Hillary was going to be indicted.

        • The Stranger says:

          Fuck off, you miserable piece of shit.

          • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

            I truly think that “Helpful Medal” is 1) Either a poser or embellisher who has been outed on TAH.
            2) A friend of a poser.
            3) some pissy-assed zit-faced little troll living in his Momma’s basement who reads “Soldier of Fortune” at the magazine rack of a 7-11 with a scowl on his face thinking that makes him look like a badass.

    • marinedad61 says:

      do you believe the threat of the only LED billboard in Elko
      blipping STOLEN VALOR, with images of
      Les Brown AND the Elko POW*MIA logo,
      is enough for Les Brown to voluntarily call it quits,
      or persuade the Elko POW*MIA to force Les Brown to come clean and put an end to the lies?

      I could possibly make them an offer,
      for a full Les Brown confession,
      and apologies,
      seen by all here…
      I could be willing to pull the plug on the LED billboard.

  30. 3/10/MED/b says:

    Elko County Fair?
    Where’s the chili? Where’s the damn free chili?
    I have my uniform. Just got it last Tuesday. I got all the shiny stuff, especially the American Defense Medal. (That sum’bitch was hard to find, since it wasn’t issued after December 6, 1941, but I managed. That’s how we do it in the Infantry.)

    Got chili, right?

    Got any extra bbq sauce around there?

    Sans chili and bbq sauce, the PTS of the D might kick in, and then, I will have to commit multiple crimes, and blame all of those actions on any other entity than myself.

    Hey, don’t shed your tears on my American Defense Medal!

  31. 26Limabeans says:

    Here is an old photo of Les at his first
    speaking engagement. The costume has changed and
    he now realizes that the speaker should be in
    front of the crowd instead of the back.


  32. marinedad61 says:

    There is a NEW Elementary School in Spring Creek, NV.
    Not far from the Academy of Les Brown school photos fame.

    The Faque Booque post already has a 1st comment….
    [Don’t let phonies into the school
    to talk to (or hug) schoolchildren.
    Ban Les Brown.
    [Link to valorguardians More or Les]]

    I have a hunch, that this is NOT going away.


    • 3/10/MED/b says:

      “Faque Booque”…

      marinedad61, request permission to steal, over;

      • marinedad61 says:

        Granted, of course.

        But don’t morph it into Fag Boog,
        which is now considered politically incorrect.

        Especially since there is NO confirmation
        on the rumors concerning the sexual preferences and/or orientation of a certain member of the Elko POW*MIA.

        As Jerry Seinfeld said back in the 1990s —
        “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

  33. Ret_25X says:

    We won’t hear from this guy for a while…but he will surface again once he thinks we have lost interest…

    That whole cabal thinks they can wait this out, I think.

  34. 26Limabeans says:

    I was talking to a guy in Florida the other day and he mentioned a problem with selling one of
    his properties. Seems the place has Black Mold
    and cannot be legally sold in that condition.
    I told hom about a worse condition know as
    Brown Stain and he should be thankful he is not
    dealing with that instead.
    He agreed.

  35. marinedad61 says:

    NEW photo of Les Brown and Tom Wulf. August 24.

    [Officers being sworn in.
    Les Brown- Director
    Ken Adams- Sergeant at Arms.
    Rich Dyer will be sworn in at a later date as Treasurer.]


    Les Brown is STILL wearing the Desert Storm Veteran patch with 4 ribbons.


    • marinedad61 says:

      Carlin Cop John Rowe
      is among those who clicked “Like”
      on this Les Brown re-election swearing in photo.

      Does he not realize where this all ends?

  36. marinedad61 says:

    1 month later, it is painfully obvious that…

    Les Brown has been pointing his finger
    at his 1991 Germany DD-214, on the line
    and than saying something bullyish like
    “See, this proves I was in Desert Storm / Iraq / Saudi”

    He intentionally avoids mentioning that he has
    NO Southwest Asia Service (Campaign) Medal.

    He might point to his Overseas Service Ribbon,
    but that is actually for service NOT in a war zone, like Japan, Italy, or GERMANY.
    Ironically, this proves his Saudi / Iraq claims FALSE.

    Furthermore, other DD-214s for part-time NG and RES soldiers and airmen activated in 1990-1991,
    and actually sent to Saudi Arabia / Southwest Asia,
    show a line entry of DATES in [18. Remarks] for
    SERVICE IN SOUTHWEST ASIA FROM 9xxxxx to 91xxxx.
    It’s a campaign medal verifier line entry.
    Of course, Les Brown’s DD-214
    is missing this line entry and these dates.

    So, since it’s apparently so easy to fool the civilians
    with DD-214 phony finger pointing,
    coupled with continued lies of Desert Storm and Iraq
    war zone and combat claims,
    it will take an actual veteran with DD-214 knowledge IN ELKO.

    Apparently, as of August 31,
    Les Brown STILL claims to be willing
    to show his papers locally, in person, to anyone.

    How true will that be, when the request to view his DD-214
    is made by an out-of-town visitor
    who is NOT his friend nor ally?

    So, let’s go Elko County.
    Get your prominent community leaders and military veterans to call out Les Brown.
    Either by compelling Les Brown to stop the lying game,
    tell the whole truth, and start with the apologies.

    OR.. by verifying his DD-214(s) as NOT a war veteran.

    OR.. by simply notifying and informing everyone in Elko County
    with the conclusion that veterans around the USA already know.

    • Ret_25X says:

      Mr. Brownstain isn’t going to show anyone anything because there is nothing to show.

      He is a liar. End of story.

      Someone in Elko needs to be reaching for the flush handle…

      • marinedad61 says:


        Unfortunately (all too typical)
        some friends and loyal org members
        would rather stay blind to reality,
        and protect their own from “outsiders”.

        Some of them openly admit it.

        Fortunately, they are not winning the Les Brown war.

    • Hondo says:

      He might point to his Overseas Service Ribbon,
      but that is actually for service NOT in a war zone, like Japan, Italy, or GERMANY.
      Ironically, this proves his Saudi / Iraq claims FALSE.

      FWIW: actually, the OSR is now indeed awarded for service in a combat zone – PROVIDED the soldier in question serves long enough in said combat zone to rate credit for an overseas short tour. The previous policy precluding award of the OSR if a campaign/expeditionary medal was awarded was rescinded some years ago.

      The change was made retroactive. This means that soldiers who (1) served in earlier conflicts (e.g., Vietnam, Gulf War); (2) met then-current criteria for short tour credit and indeed received short tour credit; and (3) were on active duty at some time after the OSR was created in 1981 are eligible to have their records updated to reflect OSRs for those previous overseas tours. See


      For those deploying in a TDY/TCS status, currently a minimum of 9 months continuous service (or 11 months service within a 24 month period) is required for tour credit.

      • ninja says:

        The OSR shows up on two of his DD214s.

        Am thinking he completed a normal unaccompanied tour for Johnston Island to be awarded the OSR.

        Don’t think he was credited for an overseas tour while stationed in Germany for less than 6 months in support of Desert Shield/Desert Storm, thus no OSR for this assignment.

        POW/MIA Day is less than 2 weeks away. Gonna be interesting to see what that Self-Gloried Biker Group in Elko, Nevada plan to do.

        Lester Kent Brown will most likely go to see his Grave never admitting his shortcomings. His Enablers will do same.

        Pride Goeth Before a Fall.

        • marinedad61 says:

          NO ONE in Elko can explain why both 1991 & 1992
          Les Brown DD-214s show
          NO campaign medals.

          But that doesn’t interest the pretender’s defenders,
          when Les Brown’s finger pointed explanation
          is all they want / need to be satisfied.

      • 26Limabeans says:

        FWIW Block 22.c on my DD-214 reads

        Then lists the total years months days
        without delineation between combat zone
        and plain old German beer zone.

        Block 24 gives a hint with 2 O/S Bars and
        Block 30 Remarks has VN SERVICE: spelled
        out with the dates.
        But then again, there was no OSR for us
        circa 1970. Even if there were the OSR in
        conjunction with the O/S bars would be
        double dipping if no other than combat
        zone were not required.

    • marinedad61 says:

      I do have a suggestion,
      IF there is any further need (or interest)
      in informing / persuading / convincing the citizenry of Elko City and County, Nevada
      about the bad behaviors of Les Brown.

      Since there are now six (6) webpages full of Les Brown,
      and it’s now VERY long reading,
      TOO long to expect any of his friends and fans to read,
      and even too long for a typical Elko citizen to absorb…..

      I suggest that a future Page 7
      be a clearly laid out 1 page full story summation of everything about Les Brown.

      Previous updates did a good job, up to that point (1 month ago).

      It would be great to lay out 1 weblink to anyone,
      that serves as a long term effective convincer,
      for those who simply don’t know about this website.


      • marinedad61 says:

        IMHO, there’s no hurry.
        Les Brown and the Elko POW*MIA have already lost this battle,
        even though many of them don’t realize it (yet).

        BTW, this story IS taking hold in Elko County.
        The whole town is NOT behind Les Brown.
        A decent sized cabal remains loyal,
        but even the cabal is taking hits and losses.

      • ninja says:

        Great suggestion.

        Unfortunately, some folks don’t want to admit they were duped by a Con Artist.

        Too embarrasing and humilating for them.

        IMHO, in what I read, support for Lester Kent Brown’s Self-Glorified Biker Group may be waning. Chili sales may drop in the future as well as monetary donations.

        Lester Kent Brown and his Band of Merry Men are the “Elephant” in Elko, Nevada.

        • 26Limabeans says:

          Be a shame the chilli starts tasting a
          bit sour.

        • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

          Maybe they need to rename their group “The Skidmarks”?

        • marinedad61 says:

          Thank you.

          I am actually considering hiring the ONLY LED billboard in Elko, visible at the corner of (main drag) Idaho St. at 12th St.

          15 second “blips” about Les Brown and Stolen Valor,
          hundreds of times a day.
          It’s inexpensive for a short run,
          and a 5 day run of billboard blips would get the attention of the entire city of Elko.

          Making the billboard content can be done at home using something as simple as Windows Paint.

          Getting an internet photo of the Les Brown billboard
          would be the ultimate Stolen Valor classic.


          • marinedad61 says:

            Choice of 7½ or 10 seconds blips.

            • ninja says:

              Another great idea, marinedad61.

              Thank You for sharing.

              Still think ole Lester Kent Brown is hiding something since he seems to address his 2nd DD214 rather than his first one.

              Am becoming more convinced his first tour was at Fort Lewis, followed by an unaccompanied tour at Johnston Island. Probably why the 1st wife left and divorced him in Washington State.

              Probably another reason why he lied about having the 2nd/75th as his Combat Patch as well as wearing the US Army Diver’s Patch, the RANGER Tab, CIB and Master Jump Wing.

              Yep, ole Lester Kent Brown is definitely hiding something from his past.

              And folks fell for his story hook, line and sinker.

              Those folks probably gave to Nigerian Scam artists as well.


              • 26Limabeans says:

                I would like to know the true reason
                for his Pacific adventure.
                His request?
                His punishment?
                Wife’s request?

              • marinedad61 says:

                Good morning, Ninja.

                I have just created 2 billboard JPG files to the exact 704×200 resolution for the Elko LED billboard at 12th and Idaho Sts.

                I would like to upload the 2 files,
                for opinion and review by the staff of this website,
                before I decide to proceed.

                Should I send the files to


          • Hondo says:

            I suspect some here might be willing to kick in a few $$$ to help defray costs.

            • marinedad61 says:

              That’s a generous suggestion,
              which I hadn’t considered.

              Perhaps helpful, if the majority opinion here is that an extended billboard campaign beyond an initial 5 day run is warranted.

              5 days of blips might be enough
              to get the water cooler conversations going around various businesses in downtown Elko.

            • marinedad61 says:

              In the mean time…
              Consider making a donation to this website.

              Not for anything to do with my little solo LED billboard effort.

              Donate to Valor Guardians for the huge amount of time and effort they’ve put into informing (and entertaining) all of us
              with the many pages on Les Brown
              (and the Elko POW*MIA).

  37. marinedad61 says:

    Keep hammering the Elko Daily Free Press…
    for their journalistic failure
    to drop the hammer on Les Brown.


    • rgr769 says:

      From the articles on Trump in the Elko paper, it looks like their Progda writers/regurgitaters have been infected with TDS.

  38. Charles says:

    Even in the latest “swearing in” photograph he is wearing the round “U.S. Army Retired” patch.

    Big difference between “retired” and “discharged.”

    But then, what good is an “oath” of office from a fraud?

    • 26Limabeans says:

      I wonder if there are any “Keepers” amongst them.

    • marinedad61 says:

      True – The Elko POW*MIA Awareness Association
      actually has a “membership contract”
      that new members must agree to and sign.

      Can anyone get a hard copy of this contract,
      to display the (truth and fees) contract details?

      • 26Limabeans says:

        I wonder what the requirements to join are.
        Be a shame they should welcome a ringer.
        Play em like a trout.

    • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

      Oh, the legacy of Les Brown[stain]!

      Les Brown has decided to become a permanent skidmark on the underwear of Life.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      Maybe someone, some brave and durable soul, could remind Les Brown that when they have the opening prayer at their meetings (they have a chaplain, y’know) – well, God knows Da Truth About Lester and playing dress-up isn’t the same thing as bald-faced lies about your service.

      • ninja says:

        Ex-PH2: It would be nice if that brave and durable soul was the Chaplain.


        That Self-Gloried “Look At Me!” Biker’s Group hides behind their vests.

        They don’t care about our POWs/MIAs.

        All they care about is themselves, about being in the limelight and their reputation.

        And possibly $$$$$.

        Lester Kent Brown is hiding something and his Enablers are supporting his deceit.

        What a great time to warn folks/tourists on TripAdvisor to STAY AWAY from Elko, Nevada.

        Their mines are loaded with “Fools” Gold.

        *Sarc On*

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Hey, all those people going to the Naruto Run On Area 51 have to have some place to stay before they get to that spot.

  39. A Proud Infidel®™ says:

    That clown named Les Brown still stinks up his town.

  40. 26Limabeans says:

    City limits sign:
    | Yeah, we know |
    | |
    | |

  41. ChipNASA says:

    So, still crickets? I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I tells ya!!

  42. A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

    I wonder how many of Les Brown’s band are also Oofkeepers?

  43. C2Show says:

    Funny, lot of patriots in Elko apparently. They all are anti-Elko Free Press, yet I am guessing they also stick up for Les Brown.

    What a dynamic audience.

  44. marinedad61 says:

    Here is my offer to you…..

    You must….
    1 – have Les Brown confess his lies, tell the whole truth, remove the unauthorized (phony) patches from his US Army uniform(s), and apologize to both Military Phony and Valor Guardians websites, as well as apologize to all pertinent parties in Elko and Carlin, Nevada.

    2 – Email the detailed confession and apology
    to both Military Phony and Valor Guardians.

    3 – Post the detailed confession and apology
    on your Elko*POW Facebook page, for all to see.

    4 – (Alternate) Email to Military Phony and Valor Guardians, and post to your Facebook page, ALL the secret hidden evidence that supposedly supports the many claims of Les Brown.

    IF you do all 3 (or fully satisfy #4)
    I will cancel the LED billboard
    at Idaho and 12th Streets, Elko, Nevada.

    It’s all up to you.
    You have less than 36 hours.

    • marinedad61 says:

      Ok, everyone.
      The Elko LED Billboard is locked in and paid for.

      Sept. 13 – Friday 4pm to 11pm,
      to coincide with the Elko POW*MIA membership meeting.
      Sept. 14 – Saturday 6am to 11pm
      to coincide with the Elko POW*MIA BBQ picnic.

      The LED Billboard is located on the main drag,
      Idaho Street, between 11th & 12th Streets,
      visible from 12th, 13th, & 14th St. intersections.

      • 5th/77th FA says:

        Bwwwwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha gasp hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

        Now that’s what I call a “Time on Target!”

        you da Man marinedad61

        • marinedad61 says:

          I should add this

          I am doing this LED Billboard on my own.
          I have my personal reasons for doing so.
          This includes several discussions with Elko citizens.

          The Military Phony and Valor Guardians websites
          have NOTHING to do with this LED Billboard.

          I’m just happy they let me blog about it here.

      • Hack Stone says:

        Can you also run a PSA for a critically missing woman? Trying to raise awareness for the safe recovery of the president of a proud but humble woman owned business who went missing from the Bethesda MD area shortly after the 2014 midterm elections.

        • marinedad61 says:

          No. But there are ways to use social media like Twitter and Facebook to raise awareness, and create a share storm.
          Good luck.

      • Hack Stone says:

        That certainly will raise awareness. On the plus side, Les Brown Stains claims verse his actual record more than qualify him for employment at All Points Logistics.

        • marinedad61 says:

          Awareness in Elko, yes.

          Many in Elko never see this website,
          and are not on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.
          So, some Elko citizens will now learn about
          Stolen Valor (in Elko) from an LED billboard.

  45. 26Limabeans says:

    Be a shame word gets around about the spoiled chilli:


  46. marinedad61 says:

    Thank you to those of you who offered me donations.
    It’s not necessary. But thank you again.

    In the mean time…
    Consider making a donation to this website.

    Not for anything to do with my little solo LED billboard effort.

    Donate to Valor Guardians for the huge amount of time and effort they’ve put into informing (and entertaining) all of us
    with the many pages on Les Brown
    (and the Elko POW*MIA).

  47. 26Limabeans says:

    At tonights meeting the Chaplain will lead the
    group in prayer, asking God for a sign.