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In this undated photo provided on Tuesday, July 23, 2019, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, center, speaks while inspecting a newly built submarine to be deployed soon, at an unknown location in North Korea. (Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service via AP)
It seems that, although dTrump had two – count ’em – confabs with ND:tBF over in Vietnam and at the Nork border over what Norkiland can and cannot do, it was not enough to satisfy the Plump One’s egocentricity.
As the article indicates, a ballistic weapon launched sub-surface is harder to detect by remote than a land-based weapon, and this new submarine is apparently going to have two to three missile-capable launch silos. Whether or not they will be nuke weapons is not clear yet, but…. Well, he just didn’t get what he wanted, so he’s going to make what he wants. So there!
Granted, we don’t see any photos of the submarine alleged to be under construction, but like everything else he’s done, Fatty Kim da t’ird is consistent. If he says it’s being built, it’s being built.
I did not see much from the South in that article, but I’m sure they do have some things to say that are not translatable. I’m also sure that we may see more harassment of South Korean and US aircraft by the Norks. Stock up on yer fave-rave comestibles. This should get interesting.
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Here is an amusing article showing what is purported to be the hull under construction…
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/the-forexlive-competition-to-name-north-koreas-new-missile-capable-submarine-20190723
As some of my other bubbleheads here can attest, that hull looks like a patchwork quilt that would be straining test depth at PD.
We’ll see where this eventually leads.
(Personally, I think Great Leader was there to see if it was something he could eat. One of his admirals said “Submarine” and the first word that popped in Kim’s head was ‘Sandwich!’)
That looks kind of small to me. Patchwork quilt surface – yes. You can almost hear the rivets groaning.
Are your sure that’s a patchwork quilt surface? Could possibly be mail order window screens from Home depot or Lowes.
Looks like something hastily and halfassedly assembled in some third world shipyard!
Another good analysis.
https://amp.businessinsider.com/kim-jong-uns-new-nuclear-missile-submarine-built-suicide-mission-2019-7
The question is, will it work? At least Iran can actually build what appear to be halfway decent submarines. I definitely find the Chinese Type 094 submarine (NATO reporting name: Jin-class) to be scarier as those are nuclear powered and they actually work.
The Norks have been lying since they came to power 70 something years ago. Why should it be any different now. They bear watching, Eternally. At least, so far, dTrumpster has not given them a planeload of our money that they can use against us.
You know, it used to be the theory to be able to fight two wars on different fronts at the same time. Anybody run the numbers on what it would take to be on 6 maybe 9 fronts? In addition to external enemies, as the news headlines show, we have almost as many internal enemies. And how quickly could we gear/ramp up production just to replace consumable stores of weapons, much less the hardware it would take to deliver said weapons?
Their sub/missiles only have to work once.
“Their sub/missiles only have to work once.”
I agree with your statements on a multi-front conflict and the concerns over consumables.
However, this thing will never make it past Guam, and if the Captain is dumb enough to open the doors, the crew will stay entombed at the bottom of the Pacific.
Roger that ‘-Dog. Might be best to make sure it never leaves port. I still think a lot of his crap is like the crap coming out of the ME, the “Stans, China, SA, and Africa. One more distraction to drain our resources and manpower.
Two or three silos? Wow! They’re building their own brand-new Golf-class! Wait, didn’t the Rooshians retire their Golfs, like, thirty-odd years ago? Can AW1Ed and other professional sub hunters weigh in?
Fatboy Kim continues to prove that you can, in fact, run a country—however poorly—on Full Retard. Has his hot sister been seen lately? Supposedly she’s the one we should actually worry about if she ever takes power, assuming he didn’t use her for a live-fire exercise yet.
They pretty much disappeared in the ’90s. A few were sold to North Korea as supposed scrap, but the NORKs may be trying to restore or reverse-engineer one or two. China is supposed to still operate one as a missile test bed. Not a bad design for what it was for.
I’m an Army guy so most of my Sub knowledge is based on The Hunt for Red October…
I’d say it’s a safe bet this ‘thing’ will make more noise then a laundry drier with a brick in it. Props are an extremely complex thing to machine, requiring extreme tolerances to remain stable and designed not to cavitate.
Sheet, aren’t the sound dampening tiles on our subs classified?
Sound dampening tiles? Never heard of them 😂
The composition…
Oh, wait. Hahaha.
Happy? (J/k)
😜
Russians had a hard time keeping them stuck to the hull, at least at first.
If they had any, that is.
*grin*
I foresee a short sea trials followed by a desperate search and rescue operation. Peter is right, the combination of new boat with largely untested equipment (launching a missile from a submerged Submarine isn’t like shooting off a bottle rocket. It can go badly a multitude of ways) and an inexperienced crew is a recipe for disaster. Plus, I’m guessing that the new boat is a diesel electric, so, even if it eventually gets deployed, their advantage of being, potentially, very quiet on the battery, is offset by the fact they’ll have to snorkel regularly. (Thus giving away their position or at least, their general operating area.) Our Boomers are so effective because they submerge and turn “ghost” for months. There’s no way to predict where they’re going, making finding them a bitch, and the range/accuracy of their Trident missiles gives them a huge potential hiding space.
Either way, I’m not impressed by Chub’s new toy.
I’m pretty familiar with the Polaris program (I met one of the primary jettison engineers, fascinating man) the amount of research that went into SLBM is staggering. The process is a technological marvel.
“launching a missile from a submerged Submarine isn’t like shooting off a bottle rocket. It can go badly a multitude of ways”
K-129?
Yep, and K-219.
I know that the K-129 wreck officially broke up when Hughes Glomar Explorer tried to hoist it off the bottom, but I wonder if it didn’t unofficially remain intact, and what they might have found about the circumstances of her sinking that neither side wanted to publicize. Not that it’s likely to be declassified anytime this millennium either way, of course.
As for K-219, I read Huchthausen’s book a while back. That was some horrifying shit.
It was common practice during the Cold War for P-3s based at Kef, Lajas, and Bermuda to monitor Yankee SSBNs like K-219 all the way from the GIUK Gap to the “Boomer Box” and back. We knew the K-219 suffered a major engineering casualty as it was happening. The boat drivers all agreed the Captain did a heroic job bringing the thing to the surface. The recording of the boat breaking up as it sank was chilling.
“Boomer”
And all this time I thought you guys were KC-135 boom operators for in-flight refueling. (Hey …. the USN ain’t got no KC-135s, right?)
Didn’t find out till now (thanks Google!) that “boomer” is slang for ballistic missile submarine.
USN has F/A-18s fitted out as refuelers, and there’s a C-130 here at Pax River that can do AAR as well.
They had more C-130s, but they flipped the wings and did something funky with the motors. I wanted to ride in one but there was some kind of issue about yellow and black striped handles. idk
In the unlikely event of an actual emergency requiring bailout, 5/77, if I pass you in the tube on the way to the main cabin door and out, congrats! You are now a Sensor Station One Operator.
Hells to the naaah. If Imma going up, Imma gonna want to be the one that pickles off the fish. And iffen that thar Aerial Artillery platform decides it wants to become a submerged Artillery Platform, YOU can follow ME out the new door Imma gonna make in the side.
Big Navy has odd ideas over who gets to pull the trigger some times. And if I can’t, well, sorry.
Here’s some pickled fish as a consolation prize.
sackafrackasashasucatash! (kicks a rock, ambles off mumbling something about what part of his anatomy big Navy can kiss)
Least it ain’t a “Red” herring.
What’s to say it won’t end up like the Kursk when they decide to test its missile launcher?
Shame if something happened to it…
YES, wouldn’t that be an absolute SHAME?
This is one of my favorite Navy films, by the crew of the Hancock. It is a classic example of a hardworking crew doing their jobs the right way. The memories!!!!
For reference, the crew shot this at silent speed, 16 frames per second, and the soundtrack runs the speed up to 24 FPS.
Those were the days, my friend!