Joshua Casteel; Another IVAW rocket surgeon

| March 3, 2009

Meet Joshua Casteel, just another disingenuous IVAW member. Here’s his profile at IVAW;

He’s also been to the Vatican to convince the Pope to urge soldiers to become conscientious objectors;

In his profile at IVAW, he tries to make you think he’s an officer with this line;

Joshua Casteel first enlisted in the US Army Reserves at the age of 17, received an appointment to the US Military Academy at West Point at 18, but at 25 was honorably discharged from Active Duty as a conscientious objector.


Well that’s all true, but what he doesn’t mention is that he washed out of West Point. He was there from June until September of 1998. I’ve spent more time at West Point. How do I know? Well, I have his Form 2-1;

He went to basic training between his junior and senior years of high school in 1997, then to West Point after high school and he was home in September. The Army then let him go to college for four years at the University of Iowa and Oxford before they called him back after he graduated. He came on active duty as an E-4 then he went to AIT at Fort Huachuca, then to the Defense Language Institute for 17 months of Arab language training, then to his unit at Fort Gordon. Two months later he was at Abu Ghraib, six months later he was in the States after his tour. Four months after that he applied for conscientious objector and then he was back on the block. He calls that eight years in the Army.

He got out of the Army at the same rank he came on active duty – an E-4;

I came across this really strange interview he did with some doofus named Aaron Glantz (apparently Glantz works for Pacifica Radio and writes a lot of really insightful books – like “How America Lost Iraq which you can buy at Amazon for a penny…still overpriced) in which Casteel tells him that 90% of the people that Casteel interrogated at Abu Ghraib were innocent. How did he know? They told him they were innocent;

The main problem, Casteel says, was that over 90 percent of the people he interrogated were innocent – simply caught up in large-scale military raids. Because the U.S. military rarely releases detainees, Casteel says he was forced to interrogate innocent prisoners again and again.

“I was constantly being asked, ‘Why am I being held here? I want answers!'” Casteel said. “But that was my job. We were supposed to be finding answers to our questions, but we kept being put into situations that were incredibly puzzling because talking to people was like trying to get blood from a turnip. They were the ones that had a greater justification for the need to have answers.”

Reminds me of those guys on “Cops” who are yelling “I didn’t do nuthin'”. Why would the US military want to warehouse innocent people in their prisons? What sense does that make?

But then he finally finds a guilty one;

“I had an interrogation with a 22-year-old Saudi Arabian who was very straightforward that he had come to Iraq to conduct jihad,” Casteel said. “We started having a conversation about religion and ethics, and he told me that I was a very strange man who was a Christian but didn’t follow the teachings of Jesus to love my enemy and pray for the persecuted. My nickname in my unit was ‘priest’ because I spent a lot of time in the chapel.”

“So I had this moment with a man who was a jihadi and he was giving me a lesson on the Sermon on the Mount,” Casteel said. “That was about five months into my time in Iraq, and I had already had about 100 interrogations and I was so weary of the whole process. I told him that I thought he was right and that there was a massive contradiction involved with me doing my job and being a Christian.”

“I wanted to have a conversation with him about ethics and the cycle of vengeance and how idiotic it was that his people said it was okay for him to come and kill me and my people told me it was okay to kill him,” Casteel said. “Why is it that we can’t find a different path together?”

Yeah, the Army needed to do a mental eval on this rocket surgeon before putting him in charge of getting life-saving information from terrorists.

In his IVAW profile, Casteel mentions that he’s become a member of the “Catholic pacifist” movement. Some of you may remember I introduced you to the Catholic pacifist movement back around Christmas time – it’s nothing but a recruiting tool for Communists.

Casteel also has a book “Letters from Abu Ghraib”. I almost bought it to add to this post, but then I read the reviews on Amazon;

I got this book hoping to read a new perspective on Abu Ghraib. But all this was is a few emails that this guy sent his dad arguing things like whether the Bible in Romans 13 allows a christian to serve in the army (you’d think he’d have made up his mind before enlisting), and that wasn’t very interesting because his dad’s responses were left out, so i could only see one side of the argument.

this should definitely be in the religious section, because it doesn’t really go into anything about Iraq. also, it shouldn’t really be called a book, i’ve written term papers that are longer.

The narcissistic ramblings of a confused kid who isn’t nearly as insightful as he thinks he is.

This extremely short diatribe contains virtually no information on the workings of Abu Ghraib, or even the daily experiences of life in a combat-zone. It’s basically just some e-mails complaining that he doesn’t like his job, without really going into the specific details of what his job required.

That second resonated with me because I’d read some of his other trash. To see what I mean, go to some of his windy ramblings at IVAW where he tries to impress us with his tortured abuse of the English language. I really didn’t feel like dropping 12 hard earned bucks on a paperback book written by some one who thinks he’s brilliant.

I have to tell you, I always hated those guys who come straight on active duty as E-4s anyway. They usually had useless ass degrees like Casteel who majored in Philosophy and Literature and couldn’t tell their left foot from their right – and they always tried to suck up to NCOs and officers. Most of them ended up getting chaptered because they couldn’t adapt. This one became a conscientious objector. And now he’s a grad student studying more useless crap.

Category: Antiwar crowd, Iraq Veterans Against the War, Media, Phony soldiers, Usual Suspects

23 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
ROK Drop

Good post, another leftist war hero has been uncovered.

Sporkmaster

Nice work on this guy.

Raoul

He resigned his commission when he learned that his recruiter lied and that West Point doesn’t have a Sewing Team.

The Sniper

When I went to DLI, I went to Russian school with this girl from Modesto, CA that flat out said that if a war broke out she wouldn’t go because she was a reservist. A lot of them have that mindset going in. CO status is bullshit. If you join something called an “army” you best be willing to pull a trigger or at least support the ones who do because you would have to be a complete and utter retard to not do so, or a fraud, a coward, and a traitor not to.

Mia

Alvin York was a conscientious objector, but Casteel and the other nutjobs at IVAW couldn’t hold a candle to him. York was a brave man and a hero. Those guys are self-serving scumbags.

509th Bob

So, this turd is reneging [is this term “racist” as defined by the new Gestapo?] on his service obligation? Under the new Obacalyse, I suppose this is the way to go, eh? Get your education for “free,” fail to meet your obligation, and get a free pass by the Obamunists.

OT: Nancy Pelosi has an “Enemies List”? I thought that the Obamamessiah was the the modern-day Nixon! It seems that the ENTIRE left-wing has decided to become Nixon! Where’s the OUTRAGE? Heh, if a Marxist/Leninist does it, it doesn’t count, does it?

On a not-entirely unrelated note, why is the stock market crashing? Why are “bitter” people “clinging” to their guns, and buying ammo so much that prices for ammo are climbing rather significantly? When the Obama/Pelosi/Reid coalition drives NORMAL people over the edge, who is supposed to mourn these Marxist turds? [To use the “truther” analysis:] Hey, I’m just asking. BTW, fire can’t melt steel. The corollary must be that copper-coated projectiles can’t kill Lib-tards! Perhaps we will get the opportunity to put this new reality-based concept to the test?

509th Bob

So, this turd is reneging [is this term “racist” as defined by the new Gestapo?] on his service obligation? Under the new Obacalyse, I suppose this is the way to go, eh? Get your education for “free,” fail to meet your obligation, and get a free pass by the Obamunists.

OT: Nancy Pelosi has an “Enemies List”? I thought that the Obamamessiah was the the modern-day Nixon! It seems that the ENTIRE left-wing has decided to become Nixon! Where’s the OUTRAGE? Heh, if a Marxist/Leninist does it, it doesn’t count, does it?

On a not-entirely unrelated note, why is the stock market crashing? Why are “bitter” people “clinging” to their guns, and buying ammo so much that prices for ammo are climbing rather significantly? When the Obama/Pelosi/Reid coalition drives NORMAL people over the edge, who is supposed to mourn these Marxist turds? [To use the “truther” analysis:] Hey, I’m just asking. BTW, fire can’t melt steel. The corollary must be that copper-coated projectiles can’t kill Lib-tards! Perhaps we will get the opportunity to put this new reality-based concept to the test?

Oops! I did not put my proper e-mail address in may original “submit comment.” Sorry. I trust that the “awaiting moderation” reply will recognize this and kill my first attempt to comment.

Paul Couturier - OIF Vet

Jonn, in case you haven’t noticed; there’s NOT A DAMN THING Catholic about the so-called “catholic pacifist” movement.

Like the rest of those so-called “movements”, they’re nothing more than a bowel movement 😉

streetsweeper

Ok, award me the dunce hat and call me clueless…..what on earth is *Nationalist Evangelical Christianity*?

Mr Wolf

York was different. There was a draft. He went and tried to gain CO status after being CALLED into duty. He was convinced otherwise by his commanders.

These douchbags join up VOLUNTARILY then try CO status- totally different. All they seeming want is to get their loans repaid. And employment. Not a large need for poets on Wall Street or in consulting firms.

Wolf

Raoul

Mike Blake almost blew his CO status. About 5 of us were protested Bill “Bug Out” Perry’s tombstone protest when some of the IVAW wanted to cross the street and fight. Blake wanted to fight Americans exercising their 1st Ammendment rights but not terrorists that killed Americans, go figure.

Joshua Casteel

Don’t you mean “rocket scientist” or “brain surgeon”? (At least since you’re in the business of insulting others’ intelligence.) But you’re right about the misleading West Point sentence in the bio. I hadn’t noticed that. If you had taken the time to read anything else of mine, though, you’d know I quite transparently refer to myself as a West Point dropout. I was no officer. And once I decided to become a CO, I turned down promotion opportunities (which would have been hypocritical, had I pursued leadership and higher pay in an Army I was intending to leave). I have no idea how you got hold of my 2-1 form, but I’m sure you could have found my DD214 as well. It says 8 years. About half of which was reserve. I’m sorry you have so much vitriol. It certainly motivates your investigation, but inhibits your capacity for thoroughness. You could actually help people if you weren’t so intent upon harming them. Jonn wrote: Actually, I spent days reading everything you’ve written before – it took weeks to get your paperwork from the Army, so I had plenty of time to research while waiting. I don’t go into these things unarmed. I don’t do it because I hate, I do it because you lie. Your bio at IVAW was mis-written purposely to give the impression that you were an officer. You and I both know it, and you wouldn’t have even mentioned it if I hadn’t posted your 2-1. I also spent some time reading up on your “Catholic Pacifism”. It is directly connected to communist organizations and preaches that the only thing missing from communism is Christianity – a problem it seeks to rectify. Read the article at the link I provided for you. I’m pretty sure this post is more thorough than you’d like it to be, which is why you bothered to respond. There’s no vitriol or anger – there’s only you getting what you deserve. It time you liars and misfits in the socialist movement get a measure of comeuppance – that’s what I do. Don’t… Read more »

Joshua Casteel

Oh, and you’re not entirely wrong about Catholic Pacifism being related to communism (though more accurately, to socialism) given that Acts 4:32 does in fact say that the early Christians “held all things in common.” But, again, your anger is clouding analysis.

trackback

[…] makes it worse is that it sounds like something I read […]

Jeff

@ “The Sniper” (comment #4):

Evidently, for some, Being There can bring about a change of mind. Ever changed your mind? Ever re-thought something? Ever made a mistake? After taking the time to hear Joshua Casteel out by reading his book, I found what I think is a very valid point:

“I made a decision in youth,” he writes, about joining the Army Reserves at 17 largely out of a sense of doing as his father and his father’s father had done — but “I am no longer a child, and will not continue to act as if I am.”

“If people do not understand this…and think me a deserter, so be it. Having made mistakes in the past is not an excuse to continue to make them now.”

You say this makes him “a complete and utter retard…or a fraud, a coward, and a traitor,” to not want to kill or support those who do.

I say it makes him kind and strong and brave and smart and reasonable and absolutely, utterly sane.

Dare to grow up. Dare to be a “coward” and stop the cycle of violence. Dare to not do what they told you.

Redacted1775

Try that line of reasoning with someone who believes their sole purpose in life is to end yours and see what happens, dipshit.

Mary

Thank you Jeff for responding to these people. Joshua Casteel, rest in peace.

C2/2000AF

RIP, but guess what, you dont go desert when you signed and pledged under oath. Easier ways of handlings things then skipping out and being considered a deserter/criminal. Around the time he quit. They were happily throwing people out and getting ready for a force shape.

C2/2000AF

My comment was to #15, not a coward. But you surely are making up excuses to get out your obligation and duty.

Just an Old Dog

I’m betting the house that this entire interaction with the “Saudi National” was a fabrication. He took his own conclusions about what he was doing and tried to rationalize it to others by saying it came from another source.

Terd.

Naomi

I was surfing the internet and noticed your post. I thought it was hysterical the fact that you were using the word rocket surgeon while accusing Joshua of being non-intelligent. Then I read down through the comments and noticed that Josh had responded to the very same thing. =)

I don’t understand what fuels posts like yours. Do you truly have no positive causes you can be using your own time for, instead of just trashing other people’s efforts? Seems like such a waste of everyone’s time and energy.

Its clear that you neither really “knew” Josh, or ever understood what he was about, because he never touted his ideas as something everyone should ascribe to. Josh knew there would be many who would dismiss him and disagree with him, but that’s not really the point. He never did what he did to change everyone’s minds and he’s dealt with criticism his entire life, so your thoughts weren’t anything unusual to him.

And yes, there is a lot of anger in your writing. That’s what allows you to feel okay attacking someone personally, instead of just finding good ways of promoting messages you believe in.

Hondo

And we again see the eminently predictable: an apologist for an untrustworthy low-life moral coward enters the discussion to defend his/her “precious”. You did realize that this discussion had died, but that by posting the above comment you resurrected it and again brought this guy’s moral cowardice to light – right, Naomi?

Yes, I do mean moral cowardice. Conscientious objector status is no justification for failing to satisfy your military obligation. Many COs have served honorably and completed their obligations – in wartime. Three have been awarded the Medal of Honor.

However, I must say you’re correct in one respect. I feel confident in saying none of the readers here “knew” Casteel – in a Biblical sense. Or wanted to, for that matter. Frankly, IMO we’re better off for having not known him in any way.

Those who apologize for wrongdoing share the culpability for same. Enjoy sharing the guilt, Naomi.

AtDrum

He broke the oaths and comraderie. Damn right a shunning was coming.