Track Palin arrested for domestic abuse
I’ve always held out hope for Sarah Palin. I thought that she could save the Republican Party and Conservatives from themselves. That all changed this week. She endorsed Donald Trump the other day, but now I get the feeling that she only did it to distract from her son’s arrest for a charge of domestic abuse on Tuesday. From Time;
Track Palin was arrested Tuesday and charged with assault, interfering with the report of a domestic violence crime and possessing a weapon while intoxicated. At the Trump campaign rally, Sarah Palin blamed the Obama administration’s policies towards veterans for abandoning her son. (Track spent a year deployed with the Army in Iraq.)
While I admit that the Obama Administration and the Veterans Affairs folks have failed veterans, by simply throwing money at the problem instead of fixing the culture in the VA, I don’t think it caused Track Palin to assault anyone. As we’ve discussed here many times, PTS is more likely to cause a person to hurt him- or her-self than to hurt another person. In fact, it’s more likely that a person who doesn’t suffer from PTS to blame PTS for their bad behavior.
The Palin family has disappointed me in the last several months, but never as much as they’ve disappointed me this week.
Category: Politics
THIS was your tipping point?!
exactly. Palin is easily the most idiotic public figure in these united states
Joe Biden. Any other questions?
Hahaha… I was thinking the same thing. She has said some of the craziest things said on national television… but to each their own.
After seeing how her daughter turned out I wouldn’t be suprised by anything her other children do.
i know several great people that are fine upstanding citizens that have kids that they raised right but still turned into sorry a$$ delinquents.
I pass no judgement on the Palins for what their GROWN children do. I judge them by their own actions.
Normally I’d agree but in this case we know her behavior started as a child…
I’ve heard of cases where a single mother had one child who became a doctor – and another raised in the same home who ended up in prison doing a multi-year sentence. I personally know of one pair of brothers where one became a General Officer, and the other allegedly got into drug dealing and afterwards “disappeared”. So, do their mothers deserve praise for raising a doctor/general? Scorn for raising a criminal? Both? Or neither?
IMO, neither. Children, like adults, are individuals. Some you can reach and teach; some are hardheaded and will only learn the hard way that “stupid has consequences”.
That said, the fact that Palin’s two oldest children both have now exhibited somewhat less-than-desirable behavior does concern me. If the next two follow suit, you might well have a point.
Then there was the case of Themistocles and Cleophantus…
Normally, I wouldn’t blame the parent for the child’s mistake. But I’m livid on how they both immediately publicly attacked Dakota Meyer when he asserted his rights as a father for joint custody.
Shame on them!
She didn’t even spell his name correctly in her rant.
I just posted this at another site…
“Why do I get the feeling that if Trump is elected to be POTUS, we may be getting a “Obama lite” leader??? Also, could the press be manipulating the polls just enough to make it seem that Trump is “the people’s choice”?”
The press seems to be scared to death of Cruz…
Great minds think alike. I’ve always thought that Trump is the Republican Obama.
And I don’t think he’d be so “lite.”
When I posted that I had only one cup of coffee in my system… I’m pretty dangerous without at least two to three cups in the body.
[N]ow I get the feeling that she only did it to distract from her son’s arrest for a charge of domestic abuse on Tuesday.
I can’t buy that “distraction” theory. The way to keep eyes off of that would be to stay out of the news completely…I hadn’t heard her mentioned at all in a long time…rather than to bring herself to the forefront at the same time. Given the amount of hatred she draws in certain quarters, making a public announcement about anything simply creates an incentive to splash Track’s misdeeds all over the place. I don’t think she’s stupid enough to miss that – my guess is that she’d been planning the endorsement for a while, and simply decided not to cancel it even though she knew it would draw extra fire in light of the arrest. If people don’t like what you say, and you’re showing an Achilles’ Heel, they’re going to aim at it.
(That’s why I didn’t buy the idea that Clinton launched Desert Fox to “distract” from the Lewinsky scandal. It sure didn’t do that…and he wasn’t dumb enough about politics to think it would.)
I quite agree with you that PTS doesn’t give people an irresistible urge to abuse their SO’s. I never met an abuser who’d hit her in front of a cop, an NCO, or a hostile witness he can’t dominate. That tells me they can help it.
But I also know that when the base where I used to work went joint, the Air Force SF’s (who took over MP duties for the whole base) told me they were shocked at the number of “domestic” cases they were getting….out of the Warrior Transition Unit. I don’t know why exactly – but what they said fit my observations too.
(A commenter in the earlier thread suggested that Track Palin didn’t have any experiences that would give him PTS anyway, so it may be entirely irrelevant to this case. I simply note it.)
Having been guest tenant on several different joint force bases, host police can show service biases. Not a unique, many times one service unaccustomed to another’s culture.
About tpalin, allegedly an ass before he served, demonstrating ass behavior now. Don’t know him. Can’t say if his service changed him.
His mother’s comments were meant to deflect, but still seemed to imply his service made him unstable. Didn’t seem to be an endorsement of military service. Somewhat outputting.
In this particular case, though, I don’t think it was a service bias…firstly, it wasn’t directed at the Army in general, but at WTU in particular. Second, it fit my own experience – I was working as a defense counsel, and I had to defend some of the guys in there (or on their way into there). Some of the PTSD/TBI cases really did seem to have lost some measure of their self control….not the full Phineas Gage, but not what they were like before getting blown up either.
None of which applies to TPalin, who from what people are telling me didn’t experience anything like that.
I’m sure the Kennedys are glad they’re democrats, otherwise none of them would ever be able to be human, ever, because the media and others would be hammering them for their very long list of indiscretions, which were mostly covered up for by their sycophants and the media.
If we are going to start judging others on the conduct of their children, then not a person on here would be able to bitch.
Sorry, the escapades of the Palin family doesn’t even rate enough to be a reality show.
I never held out hope !!!!!!
I’ve never had any warm fuzzy feelings for palin or hoe ever you spell it LMAO !!!!
Every time I see her on the tube or listen to her on the radio off it goes
This is another case in point
She spoke at my deployment ceremony and I can tell you that she sounded completely different than she does on TV.
Better or worse?
Better. She was not screechy in person.
So what you’re telling me is I can cancel the Ball Gag I just ordered on Amazon?
Cool.
😉
Chip, wait. Don’t cancel your order yet.
I see that IDC-SARC hasn’t been on here yet. I think his comment would go something like this:
Saw Sarah’s picture, I’d hit it, mumble, mumble, up at the crack of Alaskan dawn Nailin Palin, need ball gag so as not to awaken the Kodiak bears with her screeches of pleasure, mumble,mumble./smile
Great Info Twist I’m sure she is just as human as the rest of us..
the statement about PTSD fired me up just because someone has a condition
from a traumatic event does not make them a out of control nut case
her statement gives justification to one beating there other half..
witch I call BULL-SHIT !!!!!,
I’ve been diagnosed with a TBI and PTSD. and I’ve never had the urge to go out and beat someone Lol… my memory is off and I don’t care to be around a lot of people
but function well. back in 2013-14 up at Nellis AFB a airmen stomped on his newborn son killing him, the wife was desperately trying to get help for her and the two children in the house, the doctor at the hospital for some odd reason did not report the issues going on, but his command already where trying to deal with it
his excuse was being deployed to Ali AB in Kuwait for 5 months gave it to him
the news was trying to eat it up like all vets are crazy after a deployment me and
many others spent a shit load of time explaining his excuse was BS
Sarah palin, making excuses for her son makes her look like a ass too me
again.
BWHAHAHAHAAHHA !!!!!!!!!!
Alberich, I was the commenter that suggested that. He was in my Brigade and I met him a few times when the BDE TAC came to my COP. He was a member of the Brigade Commander’s PSD. Not much happened to us on that deployment. I don’t remember the BDE TAC ever getting into contact and one would think that an event like that would have made the rounds around Brigade pretty darn quick.
I think so too! And people will reach for the handiest excuse they can, ‘specially when they do inexcusable things.
Bingo. “Any port in a storm” doesn’t just apply to ships.
But if I’m caught in the big blizzard this weekend, I’m still going to recommend Calem Velhotes “Old Friends” Ruby.
In the words of that great sage Bluto Blutarski: “My advice to you . . . is to start drinking heavily.” (smile)
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through politics, unless you are Ted Kennedy.
So you won’t be writing in Blutarski 2016 then.
Not being in politics myself, I’ll take Hondo’s suggestions under advisement…
ED.ZACHERY.
“It was everyone else’s fault but mine. And even if it was my fault, I’m not to blame ‘cuz of this, and this etc etc….”
pathetic
What bothers me is that as a conservative, she should know to take responsibility for one’s own actions. Something like that happens, own it, and don’t blame anyone else for your behavior. Oh, and to go from zero to full political over that issue instantly also bothers me. Lost a great deal of respect for her over that comment.
My brother was in his Battalion during that tour. From what he told me, that PSD rarely let PFC Palin leave the wire and when he did roll out, they were protecting him as much as they were the BC.
And no, they never saw combat. So he’s (Palin) full of shit
WORD ^^^^^^*
Of course the alcohol had nothing to do with it….
I supported her when she first hit the scene, then it became a matter of “putting up with her”, but now, to blame a military deployment for his conduct is outrageous. I know dozens, perhaps hundreds of currently active duty veterans who have “been in the fire”, and they don’t blame their day to day actions on their combat zone experiences.
Her kid never even saw combat
You can take the trash out of the trailer park, but you cant take the trailer park out of the trash…
trying to figure out what Track’s behaviour has to do with mama throwing her support behind Trump and SP’s saying they’re *shocked* by an increase in domestic cases from warrior transition unit has to do with it, either. Unless those SP’s are in reality, a bunch of pansies…
I’ve never liked Palin or any of her brood. She has always struck me as being shallow and attention-seeking, both politically and in her personal life. Her children strike me the same way.
I usually refer to the night McCain selected her as VP as the night he publicly came out as senile. When she spouted the load, as far as I was concerned she joined McCain
Another victim of his service. He came back hardened. Ya, well we used to call that growing up. Evidently, we should blame everyone else for his behavior because he is a veteran.
Sarah Palin never impressed me. She was a small ball lost in high weeds. Her son is a grown man and accountable for his own actions.
Here is some free advice for little Tracker, tell mom when it comes to commenting about you…don’t. I wonder if he has a disability claim filed with the VA.
Maybe she would like to spend some time in the mountains chasing religious zelots who have rockets and automatic weapons. Seems the most vocal supporters of war have never heard a shot fires in anger.
The Time headline was sloppy copy editing because it didn’t accurately reflect what Palin actually said.
“My son like so many others, they come back a bit different, they come back hardened, they come back wondering if there is that respect for what it is that their fellow soldiers and airmen and every other member of the military so sacrificially have given to this country…I can certainly relate with other familes who kind of feel these ramifications of some PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with…”
She’s not saying that her kid has PTSD, she’s saying she can relate to other people whose kids have PTSD because her’s came back with a crappy attitude brought about, at least in part, by the President’s disdain for the military. It’s a subtle distinction.
It seems to me the relationship between the military and the President can pretty much be summed up with the photo of the marine holding the umbrella. Not only does the President not know what the military is to be used for, he also doesn’t have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
At the risk of going off topic, a tipping point to some of this may have been the firing of Stanley McChrystal. Personally, I have no doubt McChrystal should have gotten a monumental ass chewing, but to throw him under the bus because of a Rolling Stone story was petty and vindictive.
For that matter, she didn’t actually say she was talking about the arrest as such…just “what my family’s going through today.”
But she ought to have known that any ambiguous statement along those lines was going to be read against rather than for her…and chosen her words more carefully or not brought it up at all.
Her Mother side came out first to protect her Child not the Politio side. Same as “he was turning his life around”. The PTS , he might have aquired his family (growing up in his family where the Alky flowed and fighting was the NORM . Joe
Perry you do know every President uses a Marine to hold a umbrella. The part about coming out of the rain, he was getting off Marine 1.
Point taken, but we might be talking about different things, Airedale. The one I’m pointing out was from a short outtake where the President is standing behind a bank of microphones outside the White House, and reaches over with his right hand to adjust the way the marine was holding the umbrella. It’s not the same situation.
And while I have no problem with the idea of marines wishing to provide cover when the President is exiting an aircraft, it still doesn’t explain why a supposedly progressive President would let them do so instead of wearing a raincoat and carrying his own umbrella like the rest of us. YMMV.
The incident that pissed a lot of service members off, rightfully so, was the incident when he was holding a press conference with the Turkish Prime Minister on the White House lawn, and it started raining. Then he had two Marines come over and hold umbrellas over himself and the Prime Minister for the duration of that press conference.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXNsea6O9yk
Just to remind everyone palin did say on national tv that we invade iraq because they attacked us. Also she lives in alaska and has no comcept of how big the bering sea is. Be dissapointed in that not her childrens actions however reprehensible. But she did make comments about others parenting so feel free to take a shot since she has opened the door.
Thank you for the predigested and previously debunked talking points.
You obviously have no concept of how narrow the Bering Sea is at its narrowest point, the Bering Strait. That would be approximately 51 miles at the narrowest point.
You (along with many others) also appear to be ignorant of the geography of the Diomede Islands, which lie in the Bering Strait and are divided between Russia and the US. From Little Diomede Island in the US, the nearest point of Russia is Big Diomede Island – which is less than 2 1/2 miles away.
Little Diomede Island is part of Alaska. On a clear day, that means you literally can see Russia from Alaska.
Recommend you quit depending on Tina Fey and Saturday Night Live for your knowledge of world affairs and geography.
Being technically correct is a matter of fact.
Of course seeing the island doesn’t actually do anything to prop up your ability to direct foreign policy.
If you ask me what I know about the heavens, I could say that I can walk outside and see the moon, and on a clear night I get a glimpse of other planets as well but it doesn’t make me a fucking astronomer.
She’s a train wreck and I’m not certain why Trump wanted to attach himself to that circus.
Even though I have been more pro-SP than anti-SP, I cannot find any merit in her behavior this week…especially trying to blame her son’s behavior on Obama. Don’t get me wrong; I think the 0 man is weak and corrupt to the core, but Track (what a name…oh, brother) only has himself to blame for what he did.
Bingo.
Pretty much covers it
My deployment for Operation Cheese Stromboli gave me eating and food retention problems.
Cheese,
Dennis (Denny) Howard Chevalier
I’ll just leave this here and run for cover……….
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/01/21/vets-dont-blame-obama-for-track-palins-behavior/21300593/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl11%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D1352734765_htmlws-main-bb
Who knew that a guy who doesn’t ever think before shooting from the hip would love an endorsement from a woman who does the exact same thing.
They have the same personality, they make a stupid comment and are asked about that comment and they both double down on the stupid instead of just admitting they might have spoken out of turn. That’s the same personality type we have now in the Oval Office a guy who refuses to admit that someone else might have a more accurate view of the events of the moment.
Trump’s a buffoon, he’s making interesting noise because he’s outside the mainstream political machines we’ve all grown so tired of but I remain unconvinced he’s the one guy looking out for the middle class and attempting to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US to strengthen the middle class possession of wealth and decrease the gap between the top and and the middle.
Perhaps he is that guy, would be great to see someone who actually acts on that finally instead of entering into another bullshit free trade agreement with third world economies unable to purchase any US goods at a consumer level.
I absolutely don’t understand the appeal of Palin for anyone, she sounds like a fucking moron when she attempts to explain her positions and that whole bullshit “values” crock she spews is apparently lacking in her own personal life.
Maybe that’s just me, I never trust these assholes with fucked up kids who blame everyone but their own kid for the problems that kid faces. As though the world conspired to get her kid pregnant or turn her son into a wifebeater…
Trump may have made one of his few classic miscalculations with this step.
Well said.
Does anyone know if Track even saw combat? I’ve read that he doesnt have a Combat Action Badge. That would make his mothers claims of PTSD from Iraq a little shaky.
see above post:
“Twist says:
January 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm
Alberich, I was the commenter that suggested that. He was in my Brigade and I met him a few times when the BDE TAC came to my COP. He was a member of the Brigade Commander’s PSD. Not much happened to us on that deployment. I don’t remember the BDE TAC ever getting into contact and one would think that an event like that would have made the rounds around Brigade pretty darn quick.”
Just want to post a question.
This site does an amazing job of deciphering DD214’s to validate the wheres and whens of a soldiers service (or no service) As the son of a Vietnam vet, stolen valor and the horrible aftercare for vets infuriates me.
If Track doesn’t have a CIB award, was he not in “Combat” per se? Is claiming PTSD a stretch in his case? Like the guys that sit in Germany and claim Delta Force combat vet badass. Though she likes to throw around big words like Stryker and Dragoon, from what his DD214 shows he was an escort for a Brig General while in Iraq, served 2 years total and got a 20K signing bonus? His DD214 is all over the internet now, and Im sure with the FOIA its public knowledge.
Im just curious if someone with more experience in this could shed light on Track’s actual military career as it states in is DD214.
see above post:
“Twist says:
January 21, 2016 at 12:08 pm
Alberich, I was the commenter that suggested that. He was in my Brigade and I met him a few times when the BDE TAC came to my COP. He was a member of the Brigade Commander’s PSD. Not much happened to us on that deployment. I don’t remember the BDE TAC ever getting into contact and one would think that an event like that would have made the rounds around Brigade pretty darn quick.”
As I assumed, thanks.
Mom makes it sound like he was kicking in doors.
PTSD is no joke, and to throw it around as an excuse for his habitual actions really diminishes the soldiers fighting it everyday.
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I was ready to vote for John McCain until I’d had a chance to hear and read about Palin enough to realize that she was – is – totally unsuited for anything above dogcatcher or maybe city/county clerk in some sparsely-populated Alaskan municipality.
He lost my vote at that point. Could not imagine her being one heartbeat away from the Presidency and taking over as Commander-in-Chief.
I’d still slammm her pooky.