Irving Rice; totally legit

| April 20, 2014

AverageNCO sends us this article that was published in the Uniontown, Pennsylvania Herald-Standard about this totally legit and awesome Irving Rice who was a mechanic in the Air Force in Vietnam. Rice wasn’t your average Air Force mechanic, though, according to the reporter. His tour of Vietnam was jam-packed with action and high adventure;

Not long after arriving in Vietnam in 1970, the newly minted G.I. from Point Marion saw man’s brutality up close. Rice said he was in a restaurant with a friend when he saw two Vietnamese men sitting at a table nearby. Rice said he didn’t know why, but he thought he might be in danger, so he and his friend left the restaurant.

“I don’t think this looks right,” he said. “As soon as we got out the door, police drug them and beat (them to death). I was about six feet away watching it.”

[…]

“I heard some woman holler,” he said. “I wondered what was going in there, so I went in this back door. A Viet Cong soldier had a knife. I wrestled him from the door, grabbed and held him in an arm lock, swung him around and then let him go. And then he went through a big glass window. … I got out of there – I saved that woman’s life. When I got back to my unit, I said if that’s the worst that happens to me, that’s OK. I can do this. That’s alright.”

[…]

“I saw a little Vietnamese boy crying,” Rice said with a faraway look in his eyes. “I decided to go down to check this out, to see if he is in trouble. I wanted to see if there is anything wrong. Little did I know that that one little trip down there would change my life forever. I had no clue there was a Viet Cong unit down there.”

Rice said it was dark when he was ambushed. The soldiers beat him up and he passed out.

“When I came to, I was in severe pain,” he said. “I was bleeding. I was lying on a cot in a jail cell. I didn’t know what to think, but I knew I had to get out of there.”

Rice said the jail cell was not very big, maybe 10 feet by 8 feet and had a wooden door. By Rice’s estimate, he was probably there more than eight hours.

“I knew I had to move,” he said. “I was hurt, but I finally got up. I went across the room, across the jail cell. I then ran as fast as I could, kicked the wooden door. I fell back. I was hurt, but I got out.”

Rice said he was able to crawl onto the building’s roof where he saw barbed wire everywhere. The young soldier knew he was far from safe.

“As soon as I got on top of that building, I heard pow, pow, pow, zing, right past my head,” he said. “I thought, ‘they are shooting at me,’ so I started rolling.”

Rice said he rolled off the roof and fell maybe six feet. He crawled to a cemetery, rolled over a stone wall and into the woods.

“I laid down there,” he said. “I said this is where I’m going to die. I didn’t want to die at the hands of the Viet Cong soldiers. I didn’t know what kind of injuries I had. There was so much pain in my legs. I laid there and thought, this is it.”

Rice remembers hearing a jeep before he was spotted by American soldiers. The soldiers picked him up and told him what was happening.

“The guys said, ‘You are the lucky one,’” he said. “I said, ‘I don’t feel so lucky.’ They said, ‘There was a big battle last night. We did a room to room search. We found other American soldiers, but they all had their throats cut.’”

Yeah, it all sounds totally legit doesn’t it? He even avoided getting his name listed in the Department of Defense POW/MIA list. The reporter seems pretty excited that Irving was finally able to reveal his harrowing experiences after 40 years. But I think Irving should have waited another 40 years to recount that bullshit. Or the reporter could have spent five minutes to verify the stories.

Category: Dumbass Bullshit

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AndyFMF

So this isn’t a Stolen Valor Easter Egg?

totally bummed.

LebbenB

Hey – Isn’t that the plot to a Chuck Norris action movie?

Green Thumb

Funny.

Ex-PH2

Interpretation: he went out drinking with someone somewhere over there in gookland, got stinking drunk, went down an alley and got beat up and robbed by locals, the Saigon po-po found him and threw him in jail, and he made up a bodacious story to explain why he didn’t appear at roll call the next morning.

ArmyATC

What Ex-PH2 said. Too bad a sad old man with no life had to make up a huge tale to make his life have some meaning.

LebbenB

Sounds like Visconi.

stuart povick

Sounds like a normal night in the P.I. 😉

NHSparky

Only on Magsaysay.

Then again, Bernath was just a skinny little shit back in the day, a 5-year old girl could have rolled his ass.

And likely did. More than once.

Just an Old Dog

He probably got slapped around by a mama-san and kicked out of a cat house for passing out and wetting the bed.

Jabatam

Here is the email address of the reporter…

jmlayton@heraldstandard.com

Club Manager

Thanks for the address. We need more of these type postings so readers can e-mail and call bullshit.

Enigma4you

I going with he got rolled by a hooker….

HMCS(FMF) ret

Nah – two Vietnamese midgets and their pet rat rolled his ass

Hondo

To further document this guy as a LSoS, he’s also not on this list from DPMO – the “escapee” list:

http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/vietnam/reports/pmsea_escapee.pdf

Significantly, a number of people on that list were held POW for 3 days or less before escaping; two guys on the list were captured and escaped later the same day. So even those who escaped captivity after only a short period of time as a POW are both known and formally recognized.

Bottom line: if “Irv” here were telling the truth, he’d be on that list. He’s not on the list.

Draw you own conclusions. I’ve already made up my mind here.

Taurus USMC 0302

If I had a couple guys him in the platoon we could have all gone home early.

DirtDart

Hey Irv- stop me if you heard this: this one time deep in the corn fields of ‘Nam…

A Proud Infidel®

Ain’t it supposed to start with “NO SHIT, there I was…”?

ThommyMac

Mine usually started with “Well, Sir, it was like this. Me and Kevin hadn’t been to Nashville in a while and…”

1AirCav69

They had restaurants in Vietnam?

A Proud Infidel®

I’m sure that most were in close proximity to a dog pound!

HMCS(FMF) ret

“WE COOK’EM KAT…. MEEEEEEOOOOOWW!!!!”

A Proud Infidel®

I bet the two most popular dishes there are Sum Slo Cat and Sum Dum Dog!

HMCS(FMF) ret

Also on the menu – Cream of Sum Yun Guy

A Proud Infidel®™

WHAT? No Sum Dum Chik on the menu? THEN COUNT ME OUT!!

1AirCav69

Thanks guys…just lost my after Easter dinner drink on my screen. Funny bunch on here.

OAE CPO USN Ret

It sounds more like part of a plot twist that didn’t make the cut for the movie “Good Morning Vietnam”.

harp1034

I was there for 16 months 1970-1971. I never saw a big glass window. The cowboys ( Vietnamese thugs ) would have broken it out and stole everything not nailed down before the National Police could get there.
This bozo needs a boot up his arse.

AverageNCO

It took me about 30 seconds to verify he was never a POW. But it’s details like the absence of large glass windows that make me question if he was ever in Vietnam at all. His story is so action-packed that I can’t help think he never left the US and just hijacked a bunch stories from Hollywood. He wouldn’t be the first. Speaking of…Hey Dave Groves! Where is that lawsuit you were going to hit us with?

AverageNCO

Mary at POW Network has filed for FOIA

Joseph Welsh

Go down to the middle of the blog page and read about a real USAF airman in Vietnam:

http://jmawelsh.blogspot.com/2012/06/29-jun-12.html

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Where was that restaurant? Hanoi?

What the h3ll is wrong with these guys?

Kev
Hondo

Could well be the same guy. Records don’t say 2 tours, though – they say one tour in Vietnam, starting in Aug 1970. And that tour was at Tan Son Nhut AB vice Bien Hoa AB (they’re only about 10 or 12 mi from each other, though).

The FOIA reply from NPRC concerning the tool’s records can be viewed here:

http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=46284

And if he’s still claiming to be an “escaped POW” – THIS JERK WAS NOT EVER A POW. If his story was true, he’d be listed at DPAA, on the “Accounted For” and “Escaped” lists for Vietnam. Even people held POW in vietnam less than 1 day are listed on the escaped list.

He’s not listed there.

http://www.dpaa.mil/OurMissing/VietnamWar/VietnamWarPOWMIAList.aspx