How do you regulate that which you don’t understand?
This is a video of California legislator Kevin deLeon, he’s the representative of the 45th district – much of Los Angeles. Folks say that he is rabidly anti-gun. That doesn’t surprise me, since he doesn’t understand a thing about them.
Now, he writes laws, laws which are written in English. But, Mr deLeon, apparently doesn’t understand the language. I’ve never heard of a “ghost gun”, but apparently they are weapons that slip through metal detectors, says CBS News;
De Leon said he is trying to address a twin threat from what he called “ghost guns” — plastic guns that can evade metal detectors and unregistered weapons that can fall into the hands of people who are legally prohibited from owning firearms under state law.
“Currently, no one knows they exist until after a crime has been committed,” said de Leon, a leading candidate to take over as Senate leader next year.
I guess it’s possible, because I didn’t know deLeon existed until he committed a crime against the English language.
I can’t wait until he actually writes the new law, it should be a scream.
Category: Gun Grabbing Fascists
According to Ponce, the ghost gun is not known to exist until a crime is committed with it. Thus, we might all have these weapons right now and not even know it. We can’t see them. We can’t touch them. I guess they are gun spirits. I do not understand why California is in the mess it is with legislators such as Ponce on the job.
So in spite of all the laws that exist, people who aren’t legally allowed guns are still getting them. But this time regulation will work.
“(A) leading candidate to take over as Senate leader next year”? Anyone living in California, pull up stakes and GTF out now, before it’s too late. Your state is doomed. Between this asshat and Governor Moonbeam, there’s no way you can save it.
even the sheriff standing behind him had that,,what a dumbass,,look on his face! lmao
Once again, that moron demonstrates that the most dangerous part of the weapon is the nut behind the buttplate.
@5 Thank you AW1 Tim! He is part of the ilk I want as far away from any weapon as possible!
BTW, there’s also a bill before the California legislature that would put an end to the airsoft industry. I’ve never been a fan of it, but hey… some folks like it.
Regardless, this bill would regulate airsoft weapons as if they were actual firearms. You can imagine how well that is going to go over. It would allow exemptions, though, if the “weapons” in question were to be painted in bright colors, such as pink, purple, red, etc. Again….. not going to go over well. PLUS, all airsoft “weapons” would have to have the same orange tip as toy guns. Sigh.
I’m starting to think that we should just go ahead and cede California to North Korea, since they’re just about there already.
I want a 30-magazine clip! Where can I get one?
I wonder if he also thinks that once you shoot all the bullets out of a magazine/clip, it’s all gone and can never be used again?
@ 8,,only in Kalifornia
I’m offended. Instead of “ghost guns” we should use the politically correct term “undocumented firearms.”
I was reading a couple of months ago about the ATF advocating to outlaw plastic guns because they couldn’t be detected by metal detectors. Apparently it didn’t click with these morons that a gun without bullets is worthless and that the bullets would trigger detection. This is the ATF they were talking about. If those idiots don’t know how stupid that is then we are in serious trouble.
Lol @ ghost guns.
This is a legislator. It has ability to dispense incredible idiocy within half a minute. Legislator. Idiocy. Less than 30 seconds.
@3; it’s far too late to escape California. Better to finish the border fence to include the perimeter of California and quarantine them before the asshattery plague spreads.
@14-Good idea. Sincerely, a Californian.
The guns this screwball is talking about don’t exist at all. Nobody has yet managed to figure out a substitute for metal that can be used in gun barrels (no other material has the sort of strength but lack of brittleness needed), and you still have to put metal in the bullets themselves, even if it’s non-lead ammo. There are parts in the action like that, as well. All of that would set off an airport metal detector from the parking lot. Yet another manufacturoversy by the CA legislature.
@7 AW1 Tim, good idea, although I think we have virtually ceded Kalifornia to Mexico already.
@11 LMAO. I love that term. May I steal it for personal use?
In general I think of “Escape From New York”. Let’s make Kalifornia the new walled off penal colony for the USA and rid ourselves of prisons in all other states. Just wall it off and dump ’em in there together to build their own little society. But leave the current liberals there, including the Hollywood limousine liberals, since they are so touchy-feely about civil rights and no guns and all things ignorant. They should all fit together pretty well. Liberals believe you can talk anyone into anything so let them talk to inmates into being civilized. I bet they would make some great movies in there. Might be all prison sex movies but hey, who’s complaining. Liberals love all that sideways sex stuff anyway.
Ghost guns, huh? I think I may have heard of those.
There are maybe three kinds, so pay attention and learn something:
There is the vaporous, full-body apparition gun, which is ONLY visible when seen in a video, either on the news or on YouTube
There is the replicant gun, which hangs around on walls and looks like an antique, but is actually able to reproduce with no warning. It jus doesn’t fire bullets.
And then, there is the poltergeist gun, hiding in closets, waiting to pop out and splatter that gooey stuff you saw in the opening of ‘Ghostbusters’, where someone blew their nose and Egon wanted to keep it, so Dr. Venkman collected some in a petri dish for him.
Those are the only ghost guns I know about. And since they are ghosts, they can hide 30 magazines in a clip.
Yes, they can. The subscriptions are hell on the expense account, though.
@16 Thank you HS Sophomore for your posts. I enjoy reading your well thought out and well crafted comments. I have great admiration for you. In being a High School Sophomore, you are so far ahead of the current curve it is unbelievable. It is also quite refreshing. So, here’s to you! I have no doubt you will go far in whatever endeavor you put your hand and mind to.
@18 Now that tickled my funny bone! 😀 Thanks
STOP THE PRESS! Ghost guns are real! Here’s proof!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Op9qkwLGtn8/Sy_bvY3MfVI/AAAAAAAAD2Y/5UhOMs_cgCI/s400/ghostgun.jpg
@19-Thank you, Sparks. That means a lot. Really, though, there are others like me. Most of us inhabit speech and debate team rooms, robotics clubs, Model UN’s, and rotary clubs, at least part-time. We exist. You’ve just got to dig deep 🙂
HSSophomore, have you ever heard of buckypaper? It does have the qualities you’re talking about.
And non-Newtownian fluids are being tested for use in producing lightweight, non-pierceable armor for the troops.
Don’t be limited by somebody else’s lack of imagination.
Andy, that’s pure fun right there! Back in the 50s there wasn’t an issue, but I guess those ghost guns are just out of control these days.
Oh and as far as your earlier comment, I was thinking the same thing.
Though in this case he might think those “magazine clips” run out of magazines, especially since we’re firing them all in half a second.
I’m curious why that sheriff is even standing behind him, it just ends up making people “believe” that law enforcement is standing “behind” politicians in the bullshit they spew. One of those political psychology things. Why the president has a few vids of him standing in front of troops: to make people think the military is behind for more than just the fear that he’d shoot us in the back if we stood in front of him.
Apparently this is what the ATF is worried about:
This looks like a great entrepreneurial opportunity right here. We could employ thousands of ghost gun busters, get a huge government grant for developing the equipment for the detection of ghost guns, get more government grants to study the concept for a couple of decades (reporting to the super committee established for the eradication of ghost guns), eventually morph the entire enterprise into micro-detection systems marketed for individual use, and probably pick up a few Nobel Prizes along the way. If we do it correctly, a Pulitzer or two as well.
It’s all for the children!
@23-I think I heard of it on NPR at one point. But it would still have to be crafted into a gun barrel that could achieve reasonable accuracy, and stand up to the repeated applications of heat and pressure. It does look like it is capable of doing that. However, I think it goes without saying that it would be extraordinarily expensive and require very skilled craftsmen. And the buckypaper gun still doesn’t exist yet. So either way, this bill is majorly stupid. However, you’re right that it will be interesting to watch in the future. Maybe it will be something that will have to be regulated.
Happy Dr. Martin Luther King Day! Let us hope soon for Caesar Chavez Day and Malcolm X Day. Who by the way supported the second amendment as he said “By any means necessary!” Which was superior to Dr. King’s”We shall over come”. How about President Obama day! PEACE!
Dammit. It looks like VWP chewed through the straps again.
I know we all like to make fun of the ignorant dumbasses, but the problem is; there are people out there that listen to these a-holes and believe what they are being told by said a-holes. I have family members who fit that scenario and it gets frustrating trying to use logic, reason, and knowledge with them, after they listen to these idiots. I get the standard statement “they know more about this than you do, because they are a senator/congresscritter/governor/etc.”, or if it’s the media saying it, I get “where did you hear that? That’s not what they have been saying on CNN/ABC/NBC/etc.” and then I get the “you don’t know what you’re talking about”. I wish they showed as much cynicism towards these buttnuggets as they do to me.
What percentage of ‘ghost muskets’ were owned by the Minutemen, privately, durring the Revolutionary War? I heard a rumor at one point that the U.S. government didn’t even own a single cannon until the War of 1812, the ones that were appropriated were owned by citizens and a few state militia. Whatever, full autos have been regulated since the 1920’s and this guy, with his ‘title of nobility’ can kiss my @$$.
@18 the Ex — I have a fourth category based on some secret squirrel intelligence I picked up in the late 1970s. Father Guido Sarducci spoke on TV about UFOs. I have a transcript of his speech right here.
I have extracted the critical paragraph:
I once saw a UFO near Bologna. I was driving from Assisi on this road here, and it was late at night, and from nowhere there were these two giant white lights and it just zoomed right past me real fast and it just seemed to disappear. It was about ten feet long I would say — real sleek looking — looked a lot like a Corvette. And as soon as it was gone I said to myself, did I see that or not? And you see, that’s what they do to you. They shoot you with something, some kind of ray gun — and it makes you doubt that you saw them. If you think you’ve never seen one, you probably see them all the time.
So remember, if you never see a ghost gun you probably see them all the time.
@31-Roh-Dog, did you have anything to do with the Brigade 2506 while you were in? Just curious.
@33-HHS, No Sir. I wish tho… Born in the wrong era.
Not to infer that I worked at anytime in that line of work, I just hate Communism.
@35-Just curious. Always nice to meet a fellow hater of communism. Just wondered because Romeo-Dog was the call sign of one of the units in the 2506. Thanks for your service, either way (in a sincere way, not just a polite one).
@32 Richard – Isn’t Father Guido Sarducci a cardinal now?
Is it time for another Spanish Inquisition?
The headline of this piece perfectly sums up the liberal progressive nanny stateists. They know nothing of energy production and markets but they know they must be evil therefore the must be regulated. They know nothing about firearms and their operation, but as evil instruments of death they must be removed from the citizens hands. They know nothing of the health insurance system, actuarial tables or risk assessment. They confuse Health insurance with health care and knowing absolutely nothing about either thing they screw both up. Death by Bungo is too good for them.
@25static-line
“Apparently this is what the ATF is worried about”
Note how the weapon is triggered.
@37 — NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
The linked CBS article jumps the shark as well. Quoting the article:
” De Leon said he is trying to address a twin threat from what he called “ghost guns” — plastic guns that can evade metal detectors and unregistered weapons that can fall into the hands of people who are legally prohibited from owning firearms under state law.
“Currently, no one knows they exist until after a crime has been committed,” said de Leon, a leading candidate to take over as Senate leader next year.
That was the case for John Zawahri, who assembled his own military-style assault rifle and killed five people in Santa Monica in a June rampage even after he was barred from legally buying a gun in California because of mental health issues.”
The problem is that Zawahri did not assemble a weapon containing any plastics. He bought various parts from around the country, modified the metal receiver, and viola! An AR-15 type weapon.
Not only did the idiot representative get it wrong, the article doubled down on the stupidity as well.
Why is it that in the real world, such willful misstatements would result in the person being fired / terminated (no pun intended) but in the government and the press, you get rewarded?
@ 32 Richard – Thank you for keeping the cherished memory Father Guido (aka Lazlo Toth) and “OOFOS” alive. Well played sir!
@41 – The answer to your question is at the checkout stand at the grocery store, in the paparazzi images of people who’ve done nothing wrong, but are in the public eye and can be maligned by the gossip rags.
Now the ‘get even’ thing happens when an idiot llike this is taken to task for what he says by a reporter who knows better and asks him all sorts of questions he can’t/won’t answer.
Remember that ’60 Minutes’ reporter who based an entire report on a phony account of what some jackass says he did at Benghazi. She got fired, because she didn’t check her facts.
And don’t think congress critters at all levels, state and federal, can’t get fired, too. They certainly can.
I’ve never heard of a “ghost gun”
From what I understand, they are a form of unlicensed nuclear accelerator.
Just be careful not to cross the beams.
OOOHH, a 30 magazine clip? That oxygen-thieving turd burglar is another living, breathing piece of evidence that liberal Kool-Aid causes brain damage!!
30-magazine clip? I think I can stick 3 or 4 1911 magazines into a Garand clip, don’t know why you’d want to though… How would that work, anyway? Does the clip somehow facilitate magazine changes?
That must be something like what Steve Carrell said in “Date Night.” You know, how it’s not a “kill shot” unless you turn a pistol sideways. Because pistol rounds only become lethal if you “preload” 90 degrees of rotation onto them.
Okay, sarcasm off. HOW THE FUCK DID THIS IDIOT SURVIVE CHILDHOOD??!!!
In response to the recommendations of casting off California entirely: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It’s only five or six counties…wait, forgot Humboldt…okay, seven counties! The rest of California would be happy to get rid of them! I like the fence/wall idea.
#42 Ex-PH2,
I didn’t realize Lara Logan was fired. I thought she had been placed on leave for her involvement in the Benghazi report.
But I don’t remember Dan Rather being fired for his reporting on Bush. I missed Cronkite being fired for his lies during VietNam.
I could be wrong though.
As for Congress Critters, there is a difference, in my opinion, between “being fired” and not being re-elected. The clown in question will get support from people who hate guns. He will probably be appointed to committees and perhaps even chair committees giving him more influence.
If we the people didn’t fire Kennedy for killing someone (or at least contributing to her death) I am not sure we ever “fire” anyone.
gitarcarver: while Rather was not fired in the immediate aftermath of the 2004 forged document fiasco, 4 others were. Rather himself was let go by CBS less than two years later (his contract was not renewed). A little over a year after that, he sued his former employer CBS for “making him the scapegoat” for the affair (the lawsuit went nowhere). He later made public claims of having been “fired” for running the story.
HS – well, they have made guns from 3D printers which have fired 2 rounds before the barrel blew up – maybe not great reliability but two rounds is more than you would like, and the technology is improving daily. Caseless ammunition has been around a while – no primer, just an electric spark igniting a powder charge which is formed into the ‘base’ of the cartridge. All of this is technically and practically possible already, just not economically feasible or commonly available at the present time. Be willing to spend some serious money, though….