The President on the military

| September 7, 2012

Like I’ve said repeatedly this election season, I can’t watch political speeches anymore, so Obama’s acceptance speech last night was no exception. Which left me to read the transcript this morning. This is what he said about the military, defense and veterans;

And tonight, we pay tribute to the Americans who still serve in harm’s way. We are forever in debt to a generation whose sacrifice has made this country safer and more respected. We will never forget you. And so long as I’m Commander-in-Chief, we will sustain the strongest military the world has ever known.
(APPLAUSE)
When you take off the uniform, we will serve you as well as you’ve served us because no one who fights for this country should have to fight for a job, or a roof over their head, or the care that they need when they come home.
(APPLAUSE)
Around the world, we’ve strengthened old alliances and forged new coalitions to stop the spread of nuclear weapons. We’ve reasserted our power across the Pacific, and stood up to China on behalf of our workers. From Burma to Libya to South Sudan, we have advanced the rights and dignity of all human beings, men and women; Christians and Muslims and Jews.
(APPLAUSE)
But for all the progress we’ve made, challenges remain. Terrorist plots must be disrupted. Europe’s crisis must be contained.

Our commitment to Israel’s security must not waver, and neither must our pursuit of peace.
(APPLAUSE)
The Iranian government must face a world that stays united against its nuclear ambitions. The historic change sweeping across the Arab World must be defined not by the iron fist of a dictator or the hate of extremists, but by the hopes and aspirations of ordinary people who are reaching for the same rights that we celebrate here today.
(APPLAUSE)
So now we face a choice. My opponent and his running mate are new to foreign policy, but from all that we’ve seen and heard, they want to take us back to an era of blustering and blundering that cost America so dearly.

After all, you don’t call Russia our number one enemy, not Al Qaeda, Russia, unless you’re still stuck in a Cold War mind warp.

My opponent — my opponent said it was “tragic” to end the war in Iraq, and he won’t tell us how he’ll end the war in Afghanistan. Well I have, and I will. And while my opponent would spend more money on military hardware that our Joint Chiefs don’t even want, I will use the money we’re no longer spending on war to pay down our debt and put more people back to work rebuilding roads and bridges and schools and runways.

Because after two wars that have cost us thousands of lives and over a trillion dollars, it’s time to do some nation- building right here at home.

Basically, it’s all smoke and mirrors. He honors the troops and veterans with his words, but he’s pricing veterans out of the programs that they earned and broke decades of promises that the government made to veterans. And I’m not sure how he intends to “sustain the strongest military the world has ever known” when he’s planning to slash the living crap out of the defense budget. Not to mention slashing manpower, weapons and R&D.

Russia is a greater threat now than al Qaeda – because this administration have allowed them to determine what our policy towards are allies will be. That’s not Cold War mentality, that’s the situation this administration created. The “tragedy” of ending the war in Iraq too soon has become apparent this week as Iraq allies itself in Syria with Iran against the Syrian people.

Obama’s attitude towards veterans illustrates why the economy hasn’t healed in the last four years. Employers need someone that they can believe, and Obama can’t be believed. He told veterans last year that he wouldn’t balance the national budget on the backs of veterans, however, veterans are the only people in the country facing any changes in their benefits. The benefits that they earned.

Obama has made promises over the last four years that he might have intended to keep, but he hasn’t so how can anyone believe anything he said last night? How do you make decisions that effect your own future, or the future of your business when you’re getting faulty information from the country’s leaders.

He says he wants to raise taxes on “the rich”, but under Bill Clinton, who promised a tax cut, we learned that even social security recipients are among the people Democrats call “the rich”. We learned last night that Democrats plan to slash defense even more than the $1.2T cuts looming over the Defense Department. I’m sure Russia is just one of the countries rubbing their hands together over the cuts.

Category: 2012 election, Barack Obama/Joe Biden, Military issues, Veterans Issues

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NHSparky

I listened to about half the speech last night. Reminded me of one of those Charlie Brown specials where the off-camera adults would go, “Mwah mwuah mwah wah…”

It might as well have been. I saw his lips moving, I heard words and shit, but nothing was really coming out except smoke and mirrors.

Army Sergeant

FYI, that’s a prettying up of what he said. I happened to catch some of it, and he said “stuck in Cold War mind wars.” I take this to mean psychics.

RobD

What amazes me is that 40%+ of this country will vote for this ass-clown again…….

NHSparky

Rob–that’s because nearly half of all Americans are either on some form of government assistance, have either a zero or negative federal tax burden, or both.

The word for the day, boys and girls, is “unsustainable.”

Joe

He didn’t praise the troops? He hates the military! He praised the troops? He hates the military!

Ex-PH2

I did not to listen any of the speeches, because I can’t stand drivel. I listened to the sound level, the volume, of applause. The convention speeches given by anyone other that Bill the Shagster had lukewarm applause at best. Slick Willy is still very popular; he got cheers and very loud applause when he spoke.
Everyone else, except the Chairman of the convention, got lukewarm applause. The Chairman was booed on Wednesday night when he put “God” and “Jerusalem” back into the platform language, and I noticed that the loudest boos were coming from the Arab-American section. One guy stood up and waved ‘NO’ in protest.
What did poor old God ever do to these jerks? And somebody really needs to clamp Biden’s mouth shut.

I actually do think that if Slick Willy got the seat back, he might be able to trim the debt a bit without damaging any programs. (Stop throwing things at me!)

This is just my personal opinion, nothing else: I have a hunch that Paul Ryan has an understanding of the military and its needs better than Romney.

If you didn’t see it, the August jobs report this morning did not meet expectations. The estimate was 125,000 non-farm jobs added. The reality was 96,000 jobs added. Coming out the day after that meandering speech, priceless.

In retrospect, I don’t know how these idiots can accuse the Republicans of “no plan” when they don’t have one themselves, except for that “secret squirrel hidden agenda”.

Nicki

#5 – It’s not about whom he praised or didn’t praise. It’s about his actions regarding our national security.

DUH!

Dave

Lots of applause, but he was preaching to the choir.
Based on Iraq, he does have a plan to exit Afghanistan: derived from Monty Python “Run Away!”

Devtun

Unemployment drops from 8.3% to 8.1% because 368K people stopped looking for work and no longer counted in the statistics. The U-6 has real unemployment at 14.7%. The old adage that it’s a recession when your neighbor is unemployed and a depression when YOU are unemployed is so true.

Ex-PH2

The last bit of jobs information was that workforce participation is at its lowest level since September 1981.

This was after Carter’s recession, start of Reagan’s term.

In case anyone missed it, the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1989 when Mikhail Gorbachev dissolved the Politburo and sent everyone home, and subsequently publicly announced that the USSR was bankrupt and could no longer sustain itself.

The USSR was the biggest welfare state in history. Everyone had jobs paid for by the Soviet government. The chaos that ensued the end of the USSR literally threw people out on the street. When reporters went to Moscow to find out how things were going, they found vets of the Red Army trying to sell their medals and uniforms because their pensions were gone.

We do NOT need a welfare state, we need a capitalist state, and I don’t give a flying fart in space whether the BH whiners in the liberal end of the political spectrum like that or not.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

I watched the DNC Comedy Special last night. The marquee headliner was President Obama. He was so friggin funny … I laughed my ass off! Good times!

Ex-PH2

A satistic from this morning:

Canada has 35 million people. August jobs created: 35,000

USA has 315 million people: August jobs created: 96,000

2-17 AirCav

“In case anyone missed it, the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1989 when Mikhail Gorbachev dissolved the Politburo….” Dammit. Am I the only one?

Ex-PH2

Yeah. It was when you were doing that secret squirrel assignment on the USS Nautilus under the North Pole before they dropped you off at Cam Ranh Bay.

Devtun

Them hosers in great white north have a gov’t thats been trending conservative for a while now. Dare say, they seem to have taken a liking for rugged individualism, with a more modest scaled back social safety net.

Redacted1775

How telling is it that “end the war” has replaced “WIN the war”? Of course, anyone paying attention to what’s going on in Iraq can see omumbles didn’t end shit. In regards to a war “ending”, the enemy has a vote as well.

Fred

I don’t think Russia is a bigger threat than al Qaida and Company.

If Afghanistan continues down the path its on, the Middle East keeps changing for the worse, and the Defense department gets gutted, al Qaida and Company will be an even greater threat.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

@18, I also think has the dynamic changes on oil/gas importation in the United States a key player for middle eastern oil will be China. The US is on pace to almost eliminate imports from the middle east. China will become a major player instead of the USSR at that point. Instead of US ships in the straits you might see Chinese.

Iran/Irag/Afghanistan, were never and are never going to be free societies based on democracy unless we intend to occupy them for at least a couple of generations and insert our education and value systems into their children. As long as we intend to leave before that happens there is no chance of a spontaneous democracy, or even a benevolent dictatorship/theocracy developing. Anyone who thought differently over the last 10 years was overestimating the attraction of democracy to a feudal society that prospers through oppression. I would be very surprised if Kharzai lasts more than 90-120 days after the last US troops leave.

Curious

Romney didn’t mention veteran’s in his speech at all, not once. His running mate wants to cut veteran’s benefits.

What promises did President Obama break?

Bob

Just more Obama lies. The DNC was simply a bunch of lemmings lining up to jump over the cliff. There is no bottom to Obama stupid in Democrats.

rb325th

@20, you are so full of bovine fecal matter it is not even funny. Another lie the left loves to repeat. Say it enough people will believe it. I just went through the entire list of cuts Paul Ryan proposes, and not one cut to veterans at all.
On one hand we have the Left screaming not all that long ago Ryan did not even mention the VA in his budget, and now they are screaming his budget will slash veterans spending… So which is it? Did he not mention it, or did he say he was going to cut it??You all have got to get your propaganda straight.

MCPO NYC USN (Ret.)

@ 20 Service Check: What branch and dates of Service?

Hondo

Well, Curious, since you asked:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/
(My favorite ones are on page 5.)

Or maybe this shorter list is more like it

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/02/27/obamacares-top-5-broken-promises/

Or maybe this article from that bastion of Conservative thought, the Sacremento Bee:

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/06/30/4600747/obamas-list-of-broken-promises.html

Or maybe this top 10 list:

http://lonelyconservative.com/2012/07/obamas-top-ten-broken-promises/

And according to Google, there are about 1,399,996 more links concerning the subject. I just thought these 4 would be enough to get my point across.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

You don’t expect them to read that Hondo?

The dems like to take a platitude or piece of hyperbole and make it a factual statement often without supporting documentation. One of my current favorites is Romney’s “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt”…if any of these numbnuts actually read that article they would have understood from a business perspective as Romney was writing, a structured bankruptcy for Detroit’s automakers would have allowed for renegotiating every aspect of the business and would leave Detroit leaner, and thus more globally competitive. Romney also wrote in that article that it was opinion that the auto industry was too valuable to be allowed to fail because it was the hub of our manufacturing base…hardly the statements of someone who wants to see people out of work and the businesses closed.

But like the Clinton surplus there are fabrications aplenty from the Dems that are repeated as truth…kind of like the stolen valor clowns here, they think perhaps if they tell a lie long enough it will become a truth at some point….doesn’t ever seem to work out like folks hope though.

2-17 AirCav

Could we please skip October this year and get right to the voting booths? That will settle this stuff and President Romney and Vice President Ryan can start vetting appointees and shaping their immediate plans with the Republican Senate and House.

OWB

Works for me, 2-17!

Meanwhile, watching the speeches last evening there were utterances coming from somewhere that I had not heard in a while. “Lying scum” may have been the most flattering.

Hondo

Bingo, VOV. Not all bankruptcies are “close up shop”; many offer a strapped business a chance to reorganize and get better.

Of course, they also offer the opportunity to renegotiate existing union contracts. So I have my own suspicions on the real reason no one from the “Look for the Union Label” Party wants to go there . . . .

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Hondo, eventually we will get some of these independents to think a little and read a little…the fixtures on either side of the aisle can’t be swayed from their roots for fear of feeling they’ve abandoned their party. But the folks in the middle, the ones who like a little of each side…they are the deciders…here’s hoping some of them like the idea of reducing the debt to sustainable levels and expecting personal responsibility to make a return.

NHSparky

Okay, let’s put today’s unemployment numbers into “vet-friendly” terms…or not so much.

In August we had an increase of 96K jobs. Not so bad, some might say–until you consider the break-even point is about 250K.

But wait, you say–didn’t unemployment go DOWN to 8.1 percent? True, but 368K people had to drop out of the workforce for that to happen.

Now we’re looking at adding a few hundred thousand veterans due to drawdowns and DoD cuts to that number of people either looking for jobs or just saying, “Fuck it, I’ll go back to school.” Really, and how are you getting paid for that when the VA is so “upgefuckt” they can’t even pay people for a year or more?

Sleep well folks.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Sparky there is some discussion that freeing someone up from a public sector job or defense oriented industry does in fact ultimately create more production capability in the free market. I do not have my master’s in economics though so some of that discussion is well above my pay grade. The discussion does suggest the near term will be worse, followed by a steady uptick as has been witnessed historically.

I think we both know that our current situation is truly ugly in that the unemployment number is different than what is reported. Not counting people who are working part time because their hours are cut, or there are no full time jobs changes the dynamic greatly as that number is 75% of the current unemployed number of 12 million…meaning there are 20 million unemployed and underemployed, which usually does not bode well for a consumer based economy.

Ex-PH2

Bo has not met with his Jobs Committee since January this year. They had a valid plan, and he rejected it. He has failed and/or refused to meet with his other committees — groups that he put together — this year.

So, does he have a plan? Sure. Screw the taxpayers.

defendUSA

Jonn…can’t stand to even read the words. He hates the military and we all know it. There is no effort to show support other than chest-puffing and you KNOW how I despise that. Not a word in that god-damned speech had a grain of truth or sincerity.

Hondo

It depends, VOV. Public sector resources eliminated from the budget likely do cause a long-term benefit to the private-sector economy via freeing-up resources – but ONLY IF those resources are removed from the government sector entirely. If they’re simply moved to support public entitlement programs . . . uh, no. Then you’re actually worse off than before.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

Hondo, I believe you are correct. The discussion I referred was indeed related to private sector vs moving money from one government program to another. I will try to find the link again when I get home later.

Medic09

Last I checked, Israel was most staunch among the “old allies” in the MIddle East. And Israel is not feeling the love at all, since Mr. Obama became POTUS. What’s more, I’ll bet that even the Arab states, to whom he has shown ample love, are confused given his on again/off again record of moral support for Egypt and other regimes. Now, if I were head of a European state; I would look at his vacillation, confusion, and abandonment of a firm ally in the ME, and wonder “how long before he does it to us?”