Alaska MP not a spy
Specialist William Colton Millay, 22, the MP who we reported yesterday had been arrested in Alaskafor espionage is nota spy says Stars & Stripes, but from a lack of trying;
Spc. William Colton Millay, a military policeman, was not deployed with his unit and was reportedly upset and allegedly offered to sell classified information to an undercover police officer, the article said.
The Army says he’s not a spy because he didn’t have access to classified information…I think I asked that question yesterday. He still ought to be prosecuted for making the offer and for being an MP…you know sometime in his past Millay harassed some poor grunt who was just minding his own business.
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It’s probably still going to earn him a stint in the brig and a BCD. Good riddance.
I’m sure that he has access to a lot of stuff, that, while not having SECRET stamped top and bottom, could still be considered classified. If I were looking to infiltrate a base and kill a bunch of dependants, I sure would like to know things like weaknesses in base access for ingress and egress, estimated response times, houses on post with weapons, how many MPs and how armed would respond, probable response routes, shift schedules, and a myriad of other things off the top of my head, and all “owned” by the MPs.
Force feed him donuts until he pukes!
Is anyone else getting just a bit concerned about how many undercover/confidential informants there seem to be roaming around? I’m all for catching bad guys before they succeed in doing bad things, but there almost seems to be a 1/1 ratio of suspect/informant.
I wonder who is assigned to watch me? Probably my redneck neighbor (who “mows” his lawn with a weed whacker when he’s not in his front yard screaming at his ex on his cell phone) on the principal of who’d ever suspect that guy working FOR the police?
What was it that the FBI spokeschick said yesterday, that the nation is safer, thanks to this arrest and the military/FBI cooperation in this investigation. No overstatement there, eh?
Alice: If you really want to screw with the informants, turn yourself in! That’ll really ruin their day.
No, Alice. It’s not that there’s a 1:1 ratio, it’s that the kind of people who seek to “sell” information on a whim because they are disgruntled are the kind of people who don’t know how to contact legitimate buyers of that information. Same thing that gets your average ” I want to hire a hitman because my wife’s a bitch” douchebag caught.
CI Roller Dude #3; How is that different from any other day at the PMO?
teddy996 #7, makes me wonder how frequent the attempts to ‘sell’ info would be if there weren’t an artificial market created by law enforcement. That is, in order to catch the bad guys, provide ready though illegitimate contacts to make it easier for bad guys to be bad. I can see how it catches the amateurs – not sure how it helps with the more connected/ truly scary guys.
I take it that Jonn has a mild grudge against the MPs?
Personally, I hated the DoD rent-a-cops more.
It’s that authority thing. My guess is that most guys here actually have a problem with certain authority figures. that doesn’t mean we disregard what lawful authority types tell us–it’s just that we are thinking bad thoughts as we obey.
#2 Bobo,
As I type this I’m looking at a green “Sensitive/Unclassified” sticker on a government computer. I’ve never received a clearance but have worked a variety of jobs that have given me access to personally identifiable information, base security measures, contingency operations (for everything from State of the Union addresses to an Inauguration), and so on. Most of us take OPSEC and physical/information security very seriously. Even the most seemingly insignificant info can be used as a weapon in the wrong hands.
“Curses, Boris! Foiled again by moose and squirrel!”
Although, squid, it’s pretty funny some of the NNPI that is considered “classified”, like the boiling point of water at various pressures, despite you can find it in any edition of Handbook of Chemistry and Physics.
@2 – “I’m sure that he has access to a lot of stuff, that, while not having SECRET stamped top and bottom, could still be considered classified.”
Yep…FOUO is still restricted.
Burn baby burn…..
@15- there were rumors of a 1st class being sent to leavenworth for selling a set of nnps texts to a fake Russian when I was in Orlando. Officer side, of course, so none of us would know who it was.
I wonder just how many of these stories are complete bs. This kid probably violated a standing order to not chew gum on watch, and it snowballed into trying to sell secrets to terrorists. Not that I care, because mps can suck it for making me wear a goddamned road guard vest while riding a motorcycle.
Teddy–that seemed to be the common rumor when I was there as well. However, I went to Idaho Falls (or more commonly known as Idiot Flats) for prototype, where the number one goal of any single woman was to latch onto some no-pussy gettin squid, marry him, dump his ass a year or so later, move back, and repeat the process. I knew of at least a couple of women who needed CPA’s to track their alimony payments.
The most spectacular breakup I ran into was a 21-year old skank with 3 kids (3 different guys) who married a guy a class behind me, got sent to Pearl (USS Honolulu to be exact) then turned his ass in for having NNPI off the boat (his notebook.) She dumped him, he got de-nuked and de-subbed. But she got back to Idaho and found out she was in deep shit because all the prototypes were shutting down.
#15 Sparky– Yup. I still get a weird feeling looking up the enthalpy of superheated steam or looking at a Mollier diagram.
#16 Teddy– I heard that rumor when I was at Orlando too. And there was always a story about some poor schmuck (always anonymous) who got kicked out and de-nuked for bringing textbooks back to his BEQ room. Stupid NOFORN anyway! Also, wasn’t there someone on the Dub who was masted and de-nuked for losing some RAM? Like a bag of gloves from primary samples or something?
#19- part of that rumor was the real deal, I think. ELTs used to berth with the electricians, before they made our berthing into the personnel office. One of them got into some extra deep shit for losing a bit of RAM. Don’t recall that he was de-nuked, but I do remember a shitstorm swirling around one of them, some time around ’98, while we were in drydock. Don’t recall any major incidents underway involving RL div.
I tried to give cmdr. Cain a heart attack with some RAM, and simultaneously DQ myself from CGW during the ’99 deployment, but failed miserably on both counts. RM2 was just too damned understaffed at the time.
We had an et get de-nuked while we were there, for stepping a little too hard on the gas pedal when throttlemen were hands off, if you know what I mean.
#20 I think you’re right about the ELT in ’98, I got there during that drydock. And I remember the ET incident. Shimming out, LOL! There was another good one too, a guy in my workcenter in RM11 was sent to reactor test to pick up a heise gage. He got about halfway down the ladder to 1 plant CH upper level and dropped it. It bounced all the way down. We were right in the middle of quarters too. $30,000 whoopsie-daisy. He got a whole ration of shit for that!
Ha-ha Capt. Cain, I nearly forgot about that guy.
I remember a Korean guy who used to drive around Ft. Hood taking photos in the late 80’s-early 90’s. Once a week, telephoto lense, every motor pool, hangar, warehouse and the railhead would get a visit. MPs would let him go when they bothered to stop him because he would use the “No Engrish” ploy and claim to be a tourist visiting relatives. An aviation SGM took it upon himself to investigate and get him PNG’d off base. MPs are useless.
When Hasan went on his Jihadi spree on Ft. Hood, it was the DOD cops who went in to take him down. I’m sure most of the MPs were at the gate making sure dependents could get in to go to the PX, or they were at the PMO trying to get the armorer to distribute ammo.
El Rey
I think he got some pictures of my ass through the motor pool fence too!
@O.T.
We did the same shit over at HAAF. I just remember having to drop my wrench and close the hangar doors when he was in the AO.
OK, one night I was dancing with this woman in a German club. After the dance, an off-duty MP flashed his badge at me and told me to stop dancing with her because she was another soldier’s wife. I asked if that was illegal, and he told me it was. So I got his name and unit and walked up to the PMO and turned myself in demanding that they throw me in the tank because I’d broken the law. I explained to the desk sergeant that this MP had threatened to arrest me, and being a good soldier and citizen I demanded that they arrest me.
The last I’d heard, that first MP was stuck escorting the PX manager to the bank.
Am I the only one these things happen to? It must be my sparkling personality.
Much like 2nd Lt’s fresh from Hudson High and OCS, the Army seemed to trust a whole lot of people with much more authority than they could handle.
@21- lol! I’ve got that guy beat in the dumbass sweepstakes, though. My buddy and I found the old field circuit breaker for #3 tg in the trash of 2swgr, and figured we’d “see how it worked”. With a 3′ pipe wrench and a 4′ cheater bar. Well, it turns out that was a turn-in item, shouldn’t have been in the trash, and we cost the division $38,000 by beating it to death. “oops” didn’t quite cover the payment, but that’s all we gave senior chief.
I was also on the crew that dropped a reboiler feed pump shaft the full length down 2mmr emergency escape trunk, punching a hole in the dub’s cofferdam. Surprisingly, that wasn’t the last time m-div. refused to send a rigger to help us. Incredible.
Holy crap, there should be a sea story thread in the forums. I bet the people on this site have some doozies.
Prosecute him for being an MP?
Then we have to prosecute JAGs for being lawyers… when does it end?
Yea, well….I got stuck with traffic enforcement a few times in a base school zone. Due to circumstances, it was take that or stand gate duty. Care to guess how many NCO & Officer wives chewed on my butt for enforcing the posted speed limit in the school zone? So I wised up several days and asked the CO about having the resident MPI ride along. Pretty cool how their attitude changed looking at his real deal gold badge and cred’s…while signing the ticket.
teddy/Squid–try being a guy in RC division who was trying to qualify SEO and doing electric plant switching, paralleling the MG to the vital bus and being told, “When the hand gets to 12 o’clock, close the breaker.” Problem is, he wasn’t looking at the synchroscope, he was really looking at the clock in Maneuvering and closed the breaker 135 degrees out of phase (almost a dead phase-phase short for those uninitiated.)
He got to wear the blown up thyristor for a couple of weeks after that.
Worst that I ever did was lose shore power on my first qualified SRO watch. Oh, fun.
@30- Holy crap, 135 degrees is friggin’ stout. You guys were lucky you weren’t cleaning up the MG with a mop.
What the hell are you wave jockies talking about? Is this code?
@32- It’s racist code, if you ask Ed Shultz. I’ll explain, cav, and I’ll try desperately to keep it short and simple: electrical systems on board a ship use many different sources of power- shore power (ship is plugged in to the civilian power grid, like a giant toaster oven), turbine generators, diesel generators, and submarines have a motor/generator (MG), which converts battery power (DC) into 60Hz AC power. There are certain loads that absolutely cannot lose power unexpectedly. Like, say, a nuclear reactor. So, it becomes necessary, when transferring power sources from one to another, to parallel the sources- To have more than one source powering the grid at the same time. To accomplish this somewhat tricky feat, you need to match voltages as close as you can, have your incoming power source operating at a slightly higher frequency than the running source, and make absolutely, 100% certain that they are in phase (the ship runs a three-phase electrical system. It’s kind of like having every appliance in your house wired up to a couple outlets, so if the left side of your house takes a hit, your stove will still work from power provided from the right side). AC power flows like a sine wave. We have a special meter to measure the differences in the two power sources sine waves, called a synchroscope. The idea is to match those waves, because in real life, the differences between those sine waves means difference in voltage. If things are “in phase”, then their differences in voltage is 0 volts. If things are 180 degrees out of phase, the peak of power source A’s sine wave matches the absolute low of power source B’s sine wave, and their difference in voltage is 2 times system voltage. A sub’s electrical system runs on 450 volts. If the incoming source is 180 degrees out of phase with the running source when it’s put online, then there will be a difference of 900 volts in the line. When something designed to run on 450v is made to suck on 900v, things explode, melt,… Read more »
#27 good one, LOL.
#30 zowie. I bet the SEO had to change into a new poopie suit.
#31 “stout” : rofl!
#32 AirCav– just whistle and nod. We’re all 3 nukes. When we talk its kinda like Beaker from the Muppet Show LOL. Also, I think in part of the psych profile for being a nuke you have to score really high on the ability to hijack a conversation. 🙂
@25: Thanks for clearing that up, Jonn. Yeah, you attract bad joojoo like a fricken magnate 🙂
Of course, I’m including the story you told me in August with that bad joojoo thing (the scar you couldn’t show).
#34 ST,
We’re all 3 nukes. When we talk its kinda like Beaker from the Muppet Show LOL.
Truer words were never spoken! LMFAO
BR #36: Lack of oxygen will do that.
BTW I may have been a nuke too? I can neither confirm or deny that I handled purple warheads 40 odd years ago.
Nah ZP, as I told our Eng during one of the quarterly zoomie training sessions for forward pukes when he asked us if we could tell him the difference between Nuclear and Non-Nuclear radiation I raised my hand and said ” Non-nuclear radiation means we can get 400 Millirems off the Missile warheads… But we still don’t get Pro-pay.”
@33. I want to thank you for the explanation, Teddy. Now, if you’ll please excuse me I’ve got to go try to destroy a reinforced cinder block wall with my head.
@#38 Bubblehead Ray – Amen, brother, and no sweet $50K re-enlistment bonus, either.
@39- sorry, man. I was deep into the bottles when I wrote that. The guy hooked on a ton of extra juice, and blew up a very expensive piece of kit vital to a submarine.
Yup–120 degrees out of phase on a 3-phase machine is a direct short. 180 degrees, while still bad, ain’t “Ohmyfuckinggawdwhatthefuckdidyoudonowasshole” bad.
Look at it this way (Ohm’s Law lesson incoming)
480 volts / 0.01 ohm MG winding resistance = 48,000 amps.
Not too much shit in the world can handle that, and certainly not the bus work on a submarine.
But if you think THAT’S impressive, look at what one damned tree branch can do–witness the Great Blackout of 2003.
@41. Ah. That’s the stuff, pal. That I understand but it came too late. I have a concussion.