Holiday Open Thread

| October 14, 2024 | 102 Comments

Happy Columbus Day! Today would be a good day to recommend “Death of the Fifth Sun”. I read this book about 30 years ago, it would make for a good movie, the kind that Mel Gibson makes. The story is told from the perspective of the Native Americans. If you’re into history fiction, this book is worth the read.

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5JC

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5JC

In honor of Indigenous Columbus Day I would like to point out several truths that the Native Americans discovered.

Firstly they discovered the profound effects of what happens when you don’t control illegal immigration into your lands. Secondly the word and written contract of the US Federal Government when promising to protect your rights, lands and people are only worth what you can enforce at the end of a gun barrel and nothing else. Lastly if your religion is a little bit different than how most of the population worships, they may eventually let you do it, it just takes 200 years.

Hack Stone

Hack is wondering if all of the Woke posting on Facebook decrying the celebration of White European conquest are taking the day off. And do they get whiplash from saying that America is stolen land from the mostly peaceful indigenous people who lived in perfect harmony and didn’t even know what a horse was until Columbus arrived, then say that all people are welcome here and borders are racist?

5JC

All land was taken from somebody, unless it was bought that is.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

This was always our land. They just happened to arrive here first 😉

Anonymous

Indians killing and enslaving each other was just “anecdotal” all the times it happened, right?

rgr769

It was very “anecdotal” for the poor bastard who was murdered by them. There is a collection of first-person anecdotal accounts of what it was like to be captured by our Native Americans during the colonial period up through the 1880’s in the book, “Captured by the Indians.”

Anonymous

But it’s okay when idians do it, for left/libtards.

Sam

Nah. Human sacrifice is still outlawed.

So far.

5JC

Meh, they didn’t have that in what is now the USA. That was more of an Aztec thing with a few others in Mesoamerica and Central America. But in 1978 the US dropped practically all restrictions on otherwise illegal acts that were considered part of their tribal religious rituals.

Sam

“Practically all” are the key words.

Hack Stone

Have you heard of Planned Parenthood?

SFC D

Is that an indigenous tribe?

Hack Stone

Human sacrifice may be outlawed, but All Points Logistics fully embraces career sacrifice. It says something about the leadership skills of Phil Monkress that his employees are willing to lose their jobs, their homes, their life savings and their reputations to ensure that Phil Monkress never has to answer about his well publicized claims of being a US Navy SEAL.

All Points Logistics; Where Uncommon Sense is a Common Virtue.

5JC

It’s not Roman Empire Day.

Eggs

Not yet, but we’ll have the paint ready.

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rgr769

For vivid depictions of the Aztecs, watch Gibson’s movie “Apocalypto.” I took an anthropology class from a professor, Dibble, who was a foremost authority on Mesoamerican civilizations. That movie accurately portrays the Aztecs.

rgr769

Their battles were called “flower wars.” Their principal objective was the capture of prisoners for sacrifice in ceremonies atop the pyramids.

Odie

In for 2nd. The first loser.

Congrat 5JC.

Sam

3rd. I’d say something smart, but it’s too earyl.

Hack Stone

Does this mean that Hack Stone’s Reina’s ruler of the Open Thread is no longer?

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Hack Stone

Kind of like Miss Universe and Miss World contests? The biggest difference is that The Miss World Contest is only open to the residents of Earth, whereas The Miss universe Contest is open to the entire galaxy, but so far inhabitants of Earth seem most likely to win.

https://thinkrealstate.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ms-world-and-miss-universe/

Mick

On station.

Anonymous

A couple of days late, but now Chicoms hassle Taiwan about their president’s speech… remember it’s still an optimal time to move on the island:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-holds-military-drills-around-063810227.html

Anonymous

Chicoms cut it short, talk some trash, go home:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-starts-round-war-games-222553849.html

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A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe China is afraid of being discovered it’s as much a paper tiger as Russia?

Anonymous
5JC

Another Good historical novel from the native POV is Aztec by Gary Jennings. It was very controversial at the time for the depictions of human sacrifice and a lot of truth telling about the Catholic Church and he got a lot of push back, saying it weren’t so. However, he backed it all up.

AZRobert

The Day of the Shekel it will be called from now on…

Last drink for the Jihad warrior is a Jinn & Tonic and then poof!

Skippy

Comet last night here in Arizona

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SFC D

Turns out ol’ Chris was a Sephardi Jew. So now all the anti-semites get to tag in. Guy can’t catch a break.

https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/10/13/dna-study-resolves-centuries-old-mystery-christopher-columbus-was-a-spanish-jew/

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Antisemitism is so hip today, even the ‘ Anti Fascist’ Far Left have gotten in on the action.

rgr769

So, now there is a new reason for the Proggy college students and the Pali-Nazi protestors to hate poor Columbus.

Skippy

And another one

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Skippy

Last one didn’t post

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Eggs

With your phone or camera?? I may have to break out my Canon eos and give it a try.

Skippy

iPhone 15 pro max

Eggs

I’ve not progressed beyond my old Iphone SE 😐

Green Thumb

I wonder which tribe Phil Monkress is claiming today?

KoB

Kum-Hella Harryass is of The Immaho Tribe. She’s probably planning on getting together with Chief Shitting Bull, Liz Warrin’.

SFC D

Kamala’s hubby has roots in the Slapaho nation.

rgr769

Shoot, I had the same thought, but you beat me to the reply button.

SFC D

I’m grounded with Covid, got nothing to do but hang out here and be a dickweed.

Graybeard

And you do it so well.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

Don’t forget ‘ Indigenous Canadian ‘ icon Bluffy Santa Maria (who is neither)
Yet conned her way onto special edition stamps from Canada Post. Oddly enough, they are no longer available for purchase.
No big loss. I always thought Buffy sounded like a goat getting a prostate exam from Freddy Krueger.

A Proud Infidel®™

Liz Warren’s tribal name is “Grounded Turkey”, meaning a bird that’s too full of shit to fly!

USMC Steve

She has a lot of them. Fauxcohontas, Lying Dog, etc…

SgtM

Went to the Trump rally in P.V. yesterday, had a good time. Surprisingly KKKatie Hobbs was not there.

SFC D

Pretty sure she was bunkered up in her basement, hiding from that mean ol’ orange man.

Graybeard

Present.
For “Indigenous People History” reading I highly recommend History of the Ojibway People by William W. Warren (himself an Ojibway) which recounts the oral history of the Ojibway with their conflict with the Sioux and how kindly (not) they treated each other.

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RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

But……I thought the Indigenous people of North America were peaceful folk who grew organic maize, smoked peacepipes during drum circles. Basically hippies in buckskin
Nope. They enslaved, genocided each other , ‘stole’ land and cannibalised each other, just like everyone else on the planet at some point.
They would have invaded and colonised Europe if they had the tech and numbers.
They had everything right at their fingertips to make the finest blackpowder and steel on the planet.
But….alas

rgr769

Massacring 84,000 men, women and children is right up there with NAZI level murdering. But they did it in celebration of their beautiful Aztec culture. How harmonious with the environment.

5JC

Peaceful Hawaiian indigenous people would take the teeth of their slain enemies and make toilet bowl inlays with them..

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USMC Steve

A lot of the stuff they did was similar to the black clans in Africa. Slow Tuesday, let us raid the neighboring village, kill the men, rape the women, and take their stuff.

Hack Stone

84,000 people? Pfft. Planned Parenthood says “Hold my skull crushing pliers.” Speaking of Planned Parenthood, one time Hack got a little interested in statistics, and ran the numbers of African Americans killed by the Ku Klux and Planned Parenthood. Throughout the entire history of the KKK, murders of African Americans attributed to the KKK ran about 3446 in an 76 year span. Planned Parenthood exceeds that number every four days.

RCAF-CHAIRBORNE

That reminds me of the old one about Crimestoppers rewarding ‘urban’ clients for visiting Planned Parenthood

rgr769

Or, one could watch the classic movie, “The Robe,” that depicts how kindly the Injun tribes of the Eastern US treated everyone outside their tribes, back in colonial times.

Sapper3307

One for Claw/

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Claw

Suzanne Dryden Kuser – Whiz Wheel®™ base score of 36.

Claw

Did a little research. Apparently, she was in charge of things at the NSA when the KAL-55B (Whiz Wheel) was invented.

Good on her.

rgr769

Who knew she created the Wiz Wheel. Every RTO in the Viet of the Nam. Did she create the one-day crypto pads too?

rgr769

Left off …Nam had one.

Claw

Maybe she invented them too, but I can’t even imagine the brain power involved to come up with something like the Whiz Wheel and all of its associated moving parts.

Musta been one hell of a lady that kept a very low profile.

rgr769

The first time I ever saw one was when it was wielded by my first RTO in the 4th ID in the RVN back in 1970. He taught me how to work it, in case I had to do so. I got a kick out of how he used his jungle fatigue pants as a writing tablet when I gave him our coordinates.

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Sam

Open Thread! How about something from the South China Morning Post?:

China is quietly extracting itself from a US helium ‘stranglehold’, experts say
Years of research and development are helping China become less reliant on overseas sources of the valuable noble gas.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3282295/china-quietly-extracting-itself-us-helium-stranglehold-experts-say

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Sam

Hey, is it spamming to post back-to-back unrelated stories in an Open Thread?

Things Stupid People Do: Argument Over Chores Leads to Gun Play
Who’s responsible for doing these dishes? In yet my second reference within a month to the hit television show, It’s Always Sunny In Philidelphia, a Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania, man is facing charges after authorities say he fired a gun at another man during an argument over, of all things, the dishes!

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/things-stupid-people-do-argument-over-chores-leads-to-gun-play/

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5JC

Spamming is half the point of an open thread. Keeps the others from getting clogged by providing a relief valve on weekends and holidays when people have to much time on their hands.

Odie

Since we’re talking spam.

Sounds like his family had a sense of humor writing this

https://www.robertsonfuneral.com/obituaries/Robert-Boehm-2/#!/Obituary

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Hack Stone

Maybe he wrote it. Hack Stone thinks he may be one of narcissistic guys, you know the ones, who always speak of themselves in the third person. Hack Stone hates those guys.

Hack Stone

That’s a great obituary, certainly worthy of being shared among this basket of Deplorables.

Odie

Harmonicas and kids take up less room than kids and drum sets on long road trips. I wonder if the harmonicas made it home or are now littering some highway somewhere.

Claw

And The Whiz Wheel®™ gets to spin again:

Frank Kleinbauer (FUBAR) 28 x 7 = 196

rgr769

Now, that is a respectable score. Kuser’s 36 is weak sauce, indeed.

Odie

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BlueCordDad

WOW! The worldwide Jewish Conspiracy extends all the way back to the Age of Exploration/sarc/
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg2049ezpko

Anonymous

Happy Columbus Day 2024!
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Roh-Dog

That Christopher guy sailed his dick off, and we’re all better for it.

Take the day (where applicable), put yer feets up, crack a cold one, and thank goodness this ain’t fucking europe.

Jimbojszz

Schlitz also had the wide mouth jar. Kinda like Kamala Harris was with Willy Brown.

rgr769

Mickey’s still has those.

Odie

They still make mickeys?

Roh-Dog

Can be found up the road from me at a package store on the border with a ‘less affluent town’.

Have sampled that angry bee’s “Fine Malt Liquor”, once.

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rgr769

They are not the brew for the faint of heart. Three or four will get you double the DUI limit.

A Proud Infidel®™

“Indigenous Day” my ass, Christopher Columbus introduced DIVERSITY to North America, and many Settlers were REFUGEES, so there, the leftist moonbats can mix that in their bong water and drink it!!! 😀😊😀😁

Hack Stone
ChipNASA

That spectacular while I do agree with the towns argument, also believe that they can kiss a white wrinkly fat ass.
I say Trump gives this guy $100,000 and let him just eat the fine or we set up a go fund me to pay the hundred dollars a day.
🤣🫡🖕🖕🖕

Odie

$100 × “x” days to election = I’ll eat the fine just for spite.

Roh-Dog

Cease and desist these nuts.

The town can try and fine him, at great cost to the tax chattle.

I’m about it.

Hack Stone

He is just beaming an image. If the town doesn’t like, they can move the water tower. 🥴

MarineDad61

As you all know, Rudy Giuliani bought into Hoft’s
Gateway Pundit manure spreading, and is now financially ruined.

(Headline) Far-right site Gateway Pundit settles defamation suit with election workers
Website removed articles falsely accusing Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss of wrongdoing in 2020 election

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After the 2020 election, the Gateway Pundit published a series of stories amplifying a misleading video that showed Freeman and Moss counting ballots. The site pushed the false claim that the two women were committing fraud and counting illegal ballots after counting had ended for the night. The Gateway Pundit was the first news outlet to identify Freeman and later identified Moss, who have been cleared of all wrongdoing.

The site’s founder, Jim Hoft, had refused to concede that the site said anything false about the women, even though the state quickly debunked accusations of wrongdoing and a longer investigation formally cleared them. Hoft and his twin brother, Joe, also a contributor, held a press conference in Milwaukee during the Republican national convention in July and repeated many of the false claims about Freeman and Moss.

The settlement with the Gateway Pundit is notable because of the influential role the site plays in spreading misinformation. One recent analysis by the group Advance Democracy found that the site is continuing to spread false information about voting and seed the idea that the 2024 election could be stolen.
(end pastes)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/10/gateway-pundit-defamation-lawsuit-election-workers

Commissioner Wretched

One of my side hustles each week is serving as a tour guide through the local Wild Animal Safari. Among the many different beasts in our park are several bison, and I go to the trouble to explain why they’re called “buffalo” when they aren’t buffalo.
During the course of the explanation, I mention Native Americans, and at the end refer to them as Indians. One day, a rather good-looking gal got off my tour bus and said, “Sir, you’re not supposed to call those people ‘Indians’ any more.”
I replied, “Ma’am, I am one-quarter Apache. I am considered a Native American by the government. I’m one of them. I can call them anything I want.”

KoB

Cochise approves this comment.

Roh-Dog

Native Americans” is a 3-time misnomer;

  • Wasn’t America (as it hadn’t been cartographied as such)
  • America the political system was still a few years off
  • The fossil record hasn’t shown any apes-cum-hominids in this hemisphere, they got here some other way, hence not ‘native’

I have nothing but respect for the Warriors of the Great Peoples here before the Europeans arrival and the stoic responses to an alien governmental system.

Basically, whatever Joesy Wales done said.

Commissioner Wretched

Which, actually, is worse off than “Indian.” See, that’s a one-and-done – Christopher Columbus thought he was on islands near India, so he referred to the people who were living there as Indians. The name stuck and I, for one, am glad that it did.

MarineDad61

Warren remembers… or does she?

Less-than-half-the-Indian
rgr769

The prevailing theory is that they crossed the glacial ice bridge from Asia during the last Ice Age.

OAM

When and how hominids, as well as early modern humans, arrived in this hemisphere is a big question. Also, seems horses – of a sort – where here a long time before Columbus as well. We know much less than we think we do. Remarkable New Evidence for Human Activity in North America 130,000 Years Ago | Smithsonian (smithsonianmag.com)